1. This "is the guy that just might, in the future, lead this Country"?

While serving in Taji, Iraq, on August 20, 2003, as commander of the 2d Battalion 20th Field Artillery, Lieutenant Colonel West was in charge of an interrogation of a civilian Iraqi police officer who was suspected of having pertinent information regarding attacks on American soldiers. West was asked to come down and try to obtain information from the detainee after interrogators were unsuccessful in their attempt to extract the crucial information. After continuing to try to extract information, West fired his pistol over the head of the detainee and was able to obtain the necessary information to thwart the planned attacks on his soldiers.

West, who at the time was just short of having 20 years of service, was charged with violating articles 128 (assault) and 134 (general article) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. West was processed through an Article 32 hearing in November 2003, where he admitted wrongdoing, was fined $5,000 over two months for misconduct and assault.

But as long as he is against the NAACP, I guess you are ok with West and his demonstrated leadership.

Good for you.

ps. You know that his ability to lead those folks in Atlanta will be a tad difficult as a congressman from Florida, right?

Posted by: MikeBoyScout on August 16, 2010 04:59 PM

2. Oh boy. Where to start?

Nice to know you read the post and then commented not on the content or the subject, but on a link.

But...allow me to retort...........

Are you familiar with the environment in Tikrit in 2003 during the beginning of the Iraqi war? It was open season on Marines by scumbag insurgents with no regard to rules of war and hiding behind civilian screens. The atrocities they committed to civilians there is highly documented.

West fired his gun away from the insurgent to scare him and make him talk. Common thing during "real wars" like WWII, right? But now? Nope. Not in this politically correct military. The same military who allowed Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan to go about his actions as a "soldier of Allah" while all the flags were red and raised. The same military who subjects our proud warriors to rules of engagement so strict that rivers of blood have been the result.

Boo Hoo. West, asked if he would do it again, said he would walk through burning gasoline for his men. I believe him.

So, Boy Scout, what if YOUR SON was a soldier whom would have been ambushed if not for West's actions that resulted in the insurgent giving up the information of the planned ambush? Would you have been chomping on your bit to crucify his actions there, chip? Probably.

As for the NAACP, first of all, do have have any colored friends? What? You're taken aback by the word "colored"?

Hey try this, boy scout......in casual conversation, inject this: "my colored friend Kevin and I played softball last week" (or something like that), and tell me what the reaction is, OK champ?

So first of all, excuse me if I find an organization that stills uses that term IN THEIR TITLE NAME a bit suspect. The NAACP is no longer a "civil rights organization". They are a PAC for the Democratic Party and the liberal Progressive cause.

What, a black man wanting to "ADVANCE" to be a Congressman isn't a noble and respectable goal? Well, no, it isn't if the black man is a Republican.

From 1868 to 1918 there were dozens of black congressmen. ALL WERE REPUBLICAN. Today there are 42....ALL DEMOCRATIC. It wouldn't be an "advancement" for West to be the first Republican Congressman since J.C. Watts in 1979? Of course not. He is a despised, EVIL Republican and not worthy of any encouragement or praise, right?

A record 32 black republicans are running for Congress this election. A record since Reconstruction. How many do the NAACP endorse?

NONE!

So don't wax on to me about the NAACP. They are a rogue, uncivilized hateful organization that has disparaged and slandered most black men who run for office if they DARE run as a Republican and "don't know their place".

What about Eric Wallace? He would be the first black Republican Senator since 1979 and the sixth EVER in history. What are the chances the vaulted NAACP will encourage him and endorse him?

What is that I hear? Oh....CRICKETS.

So, beta male boy scout....quit your sobbing over the insurgent who was scared because he heard a gun shot near his head as he plotted to kill our proud and courageous soldiers who put their life on the line to help that country have a semblance of democratic representation for their citizens.

And...I write this on the day of the official end of combat operations there as the last Stryker force leaves for Kuwait.

Gee. Wasn't Obama against the "surge" that resulted in this outcome?

HMMMMMM................

Posted by: Alan Davidson on August 18, 2010 06:19 PM

3. Thanks for the reply, but you do know there are treatments available for psychosis?

You provided lots of funny, but I'll pick just one.

"And...I write this on the day of the official end of combat operations there as the last Stryker force leaves for Kuwait.
Gee. Wasn't Obama against the "surge" that resulted in this outcome? "

Not sure you got that right. Bush wanted to surge in, and Obama wanted to surge out.
Bush made a big show and claimed "mission accomplished!".
Obama quietly accomplished his mission (as you noted on August 18th, early).

Posted by: MikeBoyScout on August 19, 2010 11:08 AM

4. Typical response from someone who cannot form a cogent argument or defend his position. The typical Jeanne Garafalo, Ed Schultz, Democratic Underground, Daily KOS talking point:

"Republicans and Conservatives are psychotic".

Congratulations on your brilliant insight and debating skills.

We'll be seeing you and your ilk in November.

Stock up on Kleenex. Costco has "48 packs" on sale.

Posted by: Alan Davidson on August 19, 2010 11:24 AM

5. And another thing Boy Scout:

Barack Obama and his administration stated that he was fulfilling a campaign promise by ending U.S. combat operations in Iraq "on schedule."

But the timetable for withdrawing U.S. troops in Iraq was decided during the Bush administration with the signing of the Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) by U.S. and Iraq officials on Nov. 16, 2008. The Iraqi parliament signed SOFA on Nov. 27, 2008.

The agreement, which had been in negotiations since 2007, set a timetable calling for most U.S. troops to leave Iraqi towns and cities by June 30, 2009, with about 50,000 troops left in place until the final withdrawal of all U.S. military forces by Dec. 31, 2011.

Here is the PDF of that agreement:

http://usiraq.procon.org/sourcefiles/SOFA-11-19-08.pdf

See? I back up my statements with, you know, actual documents that confirm them.

But wait there's more!

"Today's vote affirms the growth of Iraq's democracy and increasing ability to secure itself," President George W. Bush said of the Iraqi parliamentary vote in a statement on Nov. 27, 2008. "Two years ago this day seemed unlikely - but the success of the surge and the courage of the Iraqi people set the conditions for these two agreements to be negotiated and approved by the Iraqi Parliament."

Recently, at a convention for disabled vets, many of whom served in Iraq, President Obama took credit for ending the war.

"As a candidate for president, I pledged to bring the war in Iraq to a responsible end," Obama said. "Shortly after taking office, I announced our new strategy for Iraq and for a transition to full Iraqi responsibility.

"And I made it clear that by August 31st, 2010, America's combat mission in Iraq would end," Obama said. "And that is exactly what we are doing - as promised and on schedule."

On Feb. 27, 2009 -- one month after taking office as president -- Obama in a speech said, "Let me say this as plainly as I can. By August 31, 2010, our combat mission in Iraq will end."

On his campaign Web site, Organizing for America, however, it states that Obama would end the "war responsibly" within 16 months of assuming office, or by roughly May 20, 2010.

The Web site reads: "Barack Obama will work with military commanders on the ground in Iraq and in consultation with the Iraqi government to end the war safely and responsibly within 16 months."

A Dec. 2, 2008 article in the Christian Science Monitor reported that President-elect Obama told Iraqi officials he supported the SOFA.

"The security pact was the first such agreement since the invasion to outline specific terms for U.S. involvement in Iraq," the article stated.

"It was also the first in the region to be publicly debated and approved. Iraqi leaders backed the agreement after reassurances from President-elect Obama that his administration would not try to change the accord negotiated by the Bush administration."

The "surge" by U.S. troops in Iraq was announced by President Bush in January 2007 and involved the deployment of more than 20,000 additional soldiers. By mid-June, the additional brigades were in place and the surge began, focusing on al-Qaeda, Sunni and Shia foes in Anbar, Baghdad, Babil and Diyala provinces.

By September, U.S. commander Gen. David Petraeus was able to report to Congress that "the military objectives of the surge are, in large measure, being met."

At the time Bush announced the surge in January 2007, then-Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) said, "I personally indicated that an escalation of troop levels in Iraq was a mistake and that we need a political accommodation rather than a military approach to the sectarian violence there."

Then, in January 2008, after Bush's state of the Union Speech and when it was evident that the surge had been successful, Obama said, "Tonight we heard President Bush say that the surge in Iraq is working, when we know that's just not true."

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who also opposed the surge, issued a statement on Monday this week giving Obama credit for ending the war in Iraq.

"America's brave men and women in uniform have done everything that has been asked of them in the war in Iraq; they have performed excellently," Pelosi said. "Soon, our nation will begin a new chapter in this effort, ending combat operations on the schedule President Obama promised."

But in February 2008, Pelosi said Bush's military strategy in Iraq had failed.

"The purpose of the surge was to create a secure time for the government of Iraq to make the political change to bring reconciliation to Iraq," Pelosi said on CNN's "Late Edition." "They have not done that."

In Atlanta, two weeks ago, Obama praised the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, which will finally end, according to the SOFA agreement, on Dec. 31, 2011.

"Already, we have closed or turned over to Iraq hundreds of bases," Obama said. "We're moving out millions of pieces of equipment in one of the largest logistics operations that we've seen in decades.

"By the end of this month, we'll have brought more than 90,000 of our troops home from Iraq since I took office - more than 90,000 have come home,"

Presidents with even a trace of humility would give credit where credit is due and this one hasn't EVER credited Bush for the success of the surge that made the ground and other conditions good enough for the SOFA agreement to play out. Nor did he ever mention the agreement was NOT his idea or signed while he was in office.

He made promises that simply mirrored the SOFA agreement that was already in place after confiding with top command (and Petreaus in particular) that SOFA can be fulfilled.

Obama simply deludes his public into thinking he is a master strategist when the plans for withdrawal were already in place and signed before his Greek columns went up and his take over on the country started.

Here's EVEN more:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/02/27/62930/obama-to-extend-iraq-withdrawal.html

Key paragraph: "Under Obama's plan, a force of between 35,000 and 50,000 U.S. troops would remain in Iraq after Aug. 31, 2010, to train, equip and advise Iraqi forces, help protect withdrawing forces and work on counterterrorism. They'd remain until Dec. 31, 2011, the date on which the Bush administration agreed to withdraw all troops under a pact with Iraq.

Face it Boy Scout.....you simply aren't informed and you just got schooled.

Posted by: Alan Davidson on August 19, 2010 02:54 PM

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