April 07, 2009
TSA abuses the rights of Ron Paul representative.

This one has to be heard to be believed. A Ron Paul campaign worker was carrying about $4,700 in donations in a metal box onto an airplane. The TSA security guys asked him why he had all that money. The RP guy asked if he was required to answer the question.

This seems perfectly reasonable to me. The police may be entitled to ask my name and address, they can ask for my ticket and learn where I am going and from whence I came, but who I work for and why I have money is my own business.

This guy had an mp3 player or smartphone with him, and he turned on the voice recorder. You can hear the audio here:

http://video1.washingtontimes.com/video/tsabierfeldt.mp3

This was chilling. "Answer our questions or we will take you to the police station." "We won't tell you if you are required to answer." "If you don't have anything to hide you should answer." Hello, civil liberties violation.

It is my understanding that if the cops pull you over and start asking personal questions, that you don't have to answer. Simply exercising your constitutional rights does not provide probable cause to detain you in and of itself. How much power does TSA actually have?

It's pretty clear these guys were arrogant, poorly trained, and not very bright. Of course having union member government employees was supposed to protect us from this kind of nonsense. Right.

OK, so you legal eagles out there - are we required to give TSA answers to personal questions? Can we be legally detained or arrested for simply carrying around 5 grand and then refusing to provide answers about it? Can they legally prevent us from getting on a plane if we don't answer personal questions?

Hairy

Oh yeah, and cudos to the Ron Paul supporter for sticking up for his rights. I have had some harsh things to say about RP and is supporters for some of their out there positions, but this guy was absolutely right on. It took a lot of guts and patience to do this.

Posted by HairyBuddah at April 07, 2009 01:01 AM | Email This
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1. Listened to the Dori Monson podcast last night regarding this. He never mentioned Ron Paul but mentioned the Campaign for Liberty of which the money was intended for.

That TSA cop sure feels important rifling through the guys underwear and smelling the guys socks.

Posted by: swatter on April 7, 2009 07:58 AM
2. I too was insufficiently familiar with RP's organization to recognize "Campaign for Liberty", but the guy mentioned Ron Paul while talking to the TSA goon. While I did not hear the segment, I would guess that Dori didn't want to go down the Ron Paul side of the discussion.

Just a thought, this took place in the St. Louis airport. I wonder if Missouri allows the recording of a conversation with permission from only one party. The TSA was unaware they were being recorded. It would be interesting to see what would happen if TSA were to try to prosecute this guy for breaking "wiretap" laws. Or try to shut him up with a threat of prosecution.

But damn,that TSA guy didn't recognize ANY limits to his authority. He clearly felt entitled to ask anything he wanted, and had been taught to "control" the situation by not answering questions from the perp/suspect. What a bully.

Hairy

Posted by: Hairy Buddah on April 7, 2009 09:35 AM
3. The guy recorded it on his I-phone for goodness sakes. Wouldn't the bright and observant TSA goons have noticed it?

Posted by: swatter on April 7, 2009 04:19 PM
4. I've been saying that installing the kind of security check we now have at every airport means that we've already lost a significant portion of our liberty by succumbed to the threats of terrorism. In reality, I tend to think that the current system is only marginally better than the old freedom to see off/greet family and friends at the gate. Then, once we have the bureaucracy in place, this sort of thing is only natural. We've already lost our liberty for good, and these things are only examples of such loss.

Posted by: DopioLover on April 7, 2009 06:30 PM
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