April 11, 2008
Major Change in America?

Every Presidential election cycle brings its list of issues that this or that candidate pounds away at in the hopes that one or two of them might propel them into the Oval office. This 2008 Presidential election campaign is more than just interesting, it is down right amazing. I look at the polls, I watch the appropriate cable news to hear what the candidates are telling their crowds and I absorb. Some cycles I come to some astounding conclusion and then decide I am way off base and go back to sleep. Not in 2008!
I leave it to the reader to come to their own conclusions, but I suspect that some major changes are happening in the United States and I believe they are going to have major import for the future of this country. I do want to point out that I am looking at these issues, irrespective of the MESSENGER, the political party or the methods being used to get the media to report them.
1. The latest polls show that about 60+% of Americans want out of the war in Iraq and want out of any future wars with Iran, North Korea or anywhere else. I don't see this attitude as passivism or isolationism but more the historic American attitude that Thomas Jefferson expounded so well, "Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none!" Americans are tired of worrying about obscure locations around the world that most of them can't identify on a map. It is a replay of the anti-interventionist attitudes of the late 1930's.
2. Every time Barack Obama makes a speech to a crowd anywhere he gets a major positive reaction when he talks about getting out of NAFTA. To make matters worse the polls show that 66% of Americans not only reject NAFTA but as Ron Paul's campaign has suggested, want nothing to do with a major NAFTA highway running across the USA.
3. During the Republican Primary the big crowd pleaser was the "I'm going to protect the US borders from illegals" comment. Polls show that almost 70% of Americans want both illegal immigration and legal immigration to come to an END, PERIOD! Anytime amnesty comes up in the US Senate, hundreds of thousands of letters, e-mails and angry phone calls put an end to that legislation. Liberal Democrats were stunned the last time the bill came up, UNIONS were hotly opposed to it and threatened the Democratic leadership.
4. Americans are worried about the future and against any more jobs being exported to China or anywhere else. This is underscored by the current trend amongst American consumers to avoid the purchase of items made in China. Since 2001 some 3.5 million jobs in manufacturing have gone abroad and Americans know it and DON'T LIKE IT! It's part of the problems that show up when some 66% of Americans say the nation and its economy is HEADED IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.

I would not be surprised if a form of Smoot-Hawley was enacted in the next Congress. I would not be shocked to see an America First movement begin in the next few years. I wonder if a big dose of anti-immigration legislation is on its way passed by nativists in Congress.
I wonder if perhaps we should all consider a return to isolationism, protectionism and nativism. It might mean an end of financing everything we do by printing T bills and selling them to our oil producers, the folks that make our new HD TV's, our autos and loan us money for our subprime mortgages.
What do you think?

Posted by LeCerveau at April 11, 2008 08:15 PM | Email This
1. I agree with only some of your list.

I have a big problem with number 1. YOu say that Americans want out of the war in Iraq, which the polls do show, but they want us to leave victorious (the polls also show this). You bring up the period of the 1930's. You can call it anti-interventionist if you like, but look at what happened during that period of World History. The Nazi party, and hitler, came to power. The World leaders all felt this "anti-intervientionist" mentality was best and did nothing as Hilter violated the treaty of Versailes time and time again until it was too late. Histroy has shown us that each time Hitler violated the Treaty of Versailes his generals were on the verge of assainating him for fear of retribution from the outside world. So each time the world leaders played the "anti-interventionist" card they actually made Hitlers Generals relax and empowered Hitler to move forward. If the world had stepped forth and moved to action against Germany for violations of the Treaty then Hitler would have been stopped and it would have saved countless lives.

I do agree that we need to secure our borders prior to any guest worker program is put in place or else it will be a waste of time and that no one here illegally should be given a fast track to legal status. I feel the illegals need to go back to where they came from and apply like millions of others have and come to this great nation legally.

I must say I really do not know enough about Nafta to have an opinion based on facts, but I too have heard people not happy with it. My question would be does it really have to do with Nafta or is the way that the press has portrayed Nafta? Once again I can not answer that, as I do not know enough about Nafta to form an educated opinion.

As for the boycott of Chinese goods, I think that has more to do with the lead posioning problem in toys than any real concern that it came from China, but I could be wrong.

Posted by: TrueSoldier on April 12, 2008 12:31 AM
2. Please don't misunderstand me. If you want to shoot the messenger, use my gun! This has nothing to do with my views, merely a report of what I see as issues being generated in the campaign and the American People's reaction to them. Pollsters do their targeting polls and come up with talking points for the candidates and then compose their speeches. Obama's people have jumped on NAFTA and the current anti-war sentiment. Ron Paul is using EXACTLY the same issues in his campaign. Illegal aliens are running the cost of health care up some 30% for Americans, taking valuable resources from Social Security, taking jobs from African Americans in the inner cities and folks ARE SICK AND TIRED OF IT!
I am merely an observer here and I challenge you to THINK IT THROUGH! There is a MAJOR CHANGE GOING ON IN AMERICA and it may be similar to what happened beginning in 1927. Now that we have anti-ICBM technology and all sorts of ways to combat our enemies with small fast reaction forces maybe we are also slipping back to 'Fortress America' again. History does tend to repeat itself!

Posted by: LeCerveau on April 12, 2008 06:17 AM
3. My apologies to the messenger on this one. Then again I wonder when politicians are going to learn that polls can be skewed to come up with what ever results they want based on the questions asked and for that matter the make of the group asked. For example a recent AP poll regarding head to head match ups between Hilary/McCain & Obama/McCain showed that both match ups we are a statistical dead heat (Hillary/McCain= 48/45 and Obama/McCain= 45/45 with a 3 point margin of error) after looking at the poll deeper you discover that 1005 people were surveyed and the break down was 489 Democrat or likely Democrat, 369 Republican or likely Republican and the rest independent. So the poll asked more Democrats than Republicans or independents (which allot of people look at themselves as independents nowadays) and came up with what they claim is an accurate poll. We have all seen the exit polls the last few elections showing far greater differences than reality (I figure quite a few people do not wnat to give honest answers about their secret ballot); yet politicians still look to polling as the way to decide things. I even remeber polls showing that Hillary would kick the crap out of Obama and should have been the nominee by now; yet reality once again has proven different. I am sure polls do have their uses, but when the questions are phrased in such ways as to elicite certain responses or the numbers are skewed towards one group or another they tend to loose their usefulness.

This is not directed at you as I understand you are just reporting what you see and hear. I just wanted to point out some observations I havee seen and I am sure that there have been plenty of polls that have been right on the money and I am probably overgenralizing in my critique of polls.

Posted by: TrueSoldier on April 13, 2008 04:39 AM
4. You two may both be right. Is something going on here under the surface? I wonder.

Posted by: Bob Clark on April 13, 2008 05:48 AM
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