November 08, 2007
747 crashes

Initiative 747 has been declared unconstitutional.

What were the constitutional grounds? The voters were too stupid to know for what they were voting.

I voted for 747 because I wanted property tax increases limited to 1% without a vote. Period.

The justices believe that voters didn't vote for the end result, but instead were voting on a reduction in the rate increase from 2% to 1%. 2% was set by I-722, but since I-722 has been declared unconsitutional, the actual reduction was from 6%, not 2%, so "confusion" reigned and no one (especially the justices) knew what they wanted.

How about, they wanted the tax increases to be 1%?

I-722 was unconstitutional because it also had a "tax rebate" in it and the justices said, "Because we cannot know if either subject of I-722 would have garnered popular support standing alone, we must declare the entire initiative void."

(Wow, couldn't the same then be said for Proposition 1?)

In 2000, 56% of the voters expressed a desire to limit property tax increases to 2% with I-722.

In 2001, another majority of voters expressed a desire to limit property tax increases to 1% with I-747.

In both cases, the opponents of tax restraint argued that the voters were too stupid to clearly understand what they were voting for and the justices have agreed.

Since the state votes primarily Democratic, do these rulings show a pattern of commentary on the intelligence of the Democrats in this state? The Democrats are fond of telling us, frequently, about how smart they are. How can they be fooled so often on these issues?

/sarc

When will OUR "representatives" get the message, "Limit your insatiable desire for tax dollars".

Posted by SouthernRoots at November 08, 2007 09:39 AM | Email This
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1. They only think we're stupid because we don't agree with them. Period.

I voted yes on 722 because I wanted to limit property tax increases to 1%. This family pays PLENTY in local and state taxes. Enough already.

I'm guessing that the ones who complain the most about wanting more tax increases are the ones not paying much to begin with. I invite them to send in extra on their own. No one would mind a bit.

Posted by: Michele on November 8, 2007 10:01 AM
2. Government should have limited ability to increase taxes.

Our current government feels they should have unfettered ability to increase taxes. This is why I-722, I-747, and rejection of HJR-4204 are so important. They impose limitations on increased taxation. They force the government to make a better case for the increases. If they are reasonible and clear, we may agree and vote for the increases.

As for HJR-4204, it has been said that even renters pay property taxes. This is true - indirectly. There are different consequences though.

If the property owner fails to pay the taxes, their property can be seized and they can be put in jail.

Renters will typically be "immune" from these governmental sanctions because the onus is on the property owner. This is why I support the 60% requirement.

Posted by: SouthernRoots on November 8, 2007 10:14 AM
3. The contempt for the will of voters with this decision is unconscionable. Voters are too stupid to understand what they are voting on? Are they joking?

It's amazing these liberals keep getting elected when all they do is show how stupid they think voters are. Voters are too stupid to elect their own elections director. Voters are too stupid to understand what a 1% increase means. Unbelievable.

Posted by: Palouse on November 8, 2007 11:04 AM
4. The scariest thing is we now have a precedent.

The legislature can nullify ANY AMENDATORY INITIATIVE it wants to preemptively by modifying the law the initiative seeks to amend.

Don't think the Democrats won't do this.

Posted by: pudge on November 8, 2007 11:10 AM
5. Maybe the Supremes should declare the last several legislative elections null and void, since voters thought they were voting for representatives that would do something positive for the state.

Posted by: Seabecker on November 9, 2007 09:36 PM
6. Seabecker, the stupidest thing is that this comes on the heels of a Supreme Court decision that said it's OK to lie. So you can tell baldfaced lies and win and that's fine, but if you tell the TRUTH (747 was true when it was written), then votes for you won't count.

Posted by: pudge on November 10, 2007 11:41 PM
7. The court grants "extreme deferrence" to the Legislature. They wouldn't override them as cavlierly as they do the public.

The court does not grant much deferrence to the PEOPLE.

Posted by: SouthernRoots on November 11, 2007 08:45 AM
8. SouthernRoots, good point. And the obvious flaw in the court's view on that is, the ultimate legislative authority IS the people.

Posted by: pudge on November 12, 2007 11:53 AM
9. Be sure to put these judges that overturned I 747 on your "DO NOT VOTE" List

Posted by: GS on November 12, 2007 10:03 PM
10. They are:

Bobbe J. Bridge
Susan Owens
Barbara A. Madsen
Stephen M. Brown
Teresa C. Kulik

Posted by: GS on November 12, 2007 10:04 PM
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