April 09, 2014
Debate on pay inequality and $15 an hour - live at 7 pm Wednesday
KTTH radio is hosting a debate on pay inequality and $15 an hour minimum wage Wednesday, April 9. Their Ben Shapiro will debate Seattle City Member Kshama Sawant. They sold tickets for the event and sold out in short time. I can't find a web page describing the event, but David Boze on KTTH radio says they will live stream the event.
To WATCH live, at 7 PM go to KTTH. Then select "Watch LIVE" on the home page. (Corrrection)
Posted by Ron Hebron at April 09, 2014
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Web site for the event is here
2. We will have a live video stream available at KTTH.com - there will be a big WATCH LIVE icon on the main page as a headline.
3. We will have a live video stream available at KTTH.com - there will be a big WATCH LIVE icon on the main page as a headline.
Should be interesting to hear the bullshit spin from the socialists. Take Sawant to the logical end and why not just mandate $200 an hour for everyone? That will be a living wage we can all enjoy. Where is the money going to come from? Well, the Dems did not care to figure that out for other Federal programs, so why would this be any different?
Also will be interesting to hear the bullshit about gender pay inequality that ignores the fact that women stay home or stop working for periods of their lives more than men, are about ten times less likely to work dangerous higher paying jobs than men, and by nature are less aggressive and less willing to demand salary increases and other testosterone fueled male employment behaviors.
It is all just more bullshit designed to sell socialism.
Tear her apart Ben!
5. Washington state currently has the highest minimum wage of any state in the country, and we've raised it annually since the late 1990s, so there should be plenty of evidence Mike and Ben can cite to show how badly our economy has declined as a result. Somehow I don't think Ben will do any better than Mike has here.
Mike @4 on April 9, 2014 01:08 PM said "Tear her apart Ben!
Dude, see tensor @5.
Sawant is going to hand Shapiro his ass.
What war on women?
Says Mike @4 on April 9, 2014 01:08 PM:
the bullshit about gender pay inequality that ignores the fact that women stay home or stop working for periods of their lives more than men, are about ten times less likely to work dangerous higher paying jobs than men, and by nature are less aggressive and less willing to demand salary increases and other testosterone fueled male employment behaviors.
Also, too spelling is fuelled by estrogens!
When will women stop demanding salary equality and start demanding salary increases like mans?
True GOP real man of genius.
@ Ron Hebron,
Just a quick thank-you for bringing this webcast debate to my attention.
I informed some of my friends and as of 8:30 tonight 5 people I passed the info you provided onto have donated to $15/hr NOW. Thank-you.
Wow! Ben and Paul dismantled those two by anyone's objective standards. Well done, gentlemen.
By the way, David Boze was a great moderator in this debate.
To all posters. Please state how many minutes of the debate you watched. I was busy and watched zero.
Am I supposed to fear MikeBS's friends being informed? That's why I posted the event: so people can watch and be informed, even his friends!!
Mike@4 wonders, "Take Sawant to the logical end and why not just mandate $200 an hour for everyone?"
I'm not sure what "logic" you're using to get to that "end". By the same "logic" one could argue that there should be no minimum wage, no workplace safety regulations, no consumer protections, no FDA, etc. No one serious is arguing for either extreme. (Rand Paul and pudge might but as I said, no one serious.)
I didn't hear the debate but I'm sure Sawant, not my idea of a wise economist, said some silly things. If you want to have a rational discussion of the optimal level of minimum wage, you might look at this chart showing how the real minimum wage has dropped over time. Does this chart make you think the minimum wage should be $0.00, 7.25, 10.46, 15.00, 18.72, or 28.34? Why?
I did not see this debate, but I have listened to earlier interviews with supporters.
In one, the woman advocating for $15 said that her organization was supported (or endorsed) by forty businesses (or businessmen).
I occurred to me then, if there are businesses that endorse 15 minimum, why do they need to wait for government to force them to raise their wage base?
Why don't they do it themselves right now, they have always had that power, they don't need government to force them.
"Wow! Ben and Paul dismantled those two by anyone's objective standards. Well done, gentlemen."
So, did they cite economic data showing how Washington State's voter-mandated, highest-in-the-nation minimum wage has resulted in economic problems here? Washington shares a long land border with Idaho, a state with one of the lowest minimum wages, so the contrast should be pretty clear.
SouthernRoots@12 wonders, "if there are businesses that endorse 15 minimum, why do they need to wait for government to force them to raise their wage base? Why don't they do it themselves right now, they have always had that power, they don't need government to force them."
Perhaps they already are, but also want to live in a world where all workers are paid a living wage. Or perhaps they want their employees to get a living wage while not being forced to compete with companies who pay less.
I struggled to make ends meet starting in the late 80's (when I got out of the Navy) throughout the 90's. I only earned minimum wage for a few years - at various jobs, I would get a positive performance review, and then get maybe a 70 cent per hour raise. It took years of this to get my pay to what I would consider to be a decent living wage.
I'm trying to wrap my head around this: the incentive for me to perform was a pay increase (albeit small). I am thankful for every pay increase (they sure added up over time!), and I assume that my employers were thankful for my service. So, given the idea of bringing everybody up to the same minimum, if there was someone who had worked for years to work their way up to... say $14.50 an hour, how will they feel when their hard work is rewarded with a $.50 an hour raise, while the underachieving highschool dropout gets rewarded with something around a $6.00 an hour raise, with no expectation of improved performance... won't we be punishing hard work and incentivizing laziness?
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