September 18, 2012
Romney and Obama On Open Mike
Mitt Romney in remarks made at a private fund raising function last May, spoke about the forty seven percent of Americans who get some direct monetary payment from the government and the likelihood that they would vote for Obama. The event was secretly recorded and provided to "Mother Jones", a left wing magazine. Hoping to inflict maximum damage on the Romney campaign, they held it until now, close to the election.
So which should concern you more? Romney's too blunt but true comment or the following conversation recorded from an open mike between then President Dmitri Medvedev of Russian and President Obama at the March 2012 Global Nuclear Security Summit in Seoul, South Korea:
Obama: On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved but it's important for him (incoming Russian president, Vladmir Putin) to give me some space.
Medvedev: Yeah, I understand, I understand your message about space. Space for you ...(inaudible)
Obama: This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.
Medvedev: I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladmir.
Link the above conversation with President Obama caving into Russian pressure and canceling an agreement with our ally, Poland, to host a missile defense system. Toss Poland under the bus; tell Putin he (Obama) can be more flexible after the election - that concerns me.
Posted by warrenpeterson at September 18, 2012
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And lest we forget, the evil Kenyan Muslim Usurper abandoned the 20 year defunct state of Czechoslovakia! Don't believe me, ask Lizard Cheney, DICK Cheney's deferment baby.
As we all know, after 11 years of on-going war on terrorism (by the way, not paid for by the previous Republican administration) we all know that the most dangerous issue facing the USA in the world today is the Evil Soviet Empire.
Kudos to Warren for keeping the issue alive!
2. This (and it is but one of many examples) of our President ostensibly bowing to another nation's leader disturbs me too. He and his minions can chalk it up to diplomacy all they want but this is BS...we MUST continue to hold our heads high and expect respect,not BOW to these nations and kiss their 'you know what's'. This is absurdely ridicilous and the American voters need to take STRONG note of situations like these which have happened way too much under this administration.
Let's preserve our dignity, for all who have bravely given their lives for this dignity and remove this chicken-sh** from office. This is outright frightening.:)
3. Is there any doubt that a Romney administration would favor the rich and increase the income gap in our country? Mitt is a pariah in Mormon Clothing and will stop at nothing to expand an empire of greed for the rich in this country by expanding tax cuts for the 1% of the wealthiest Americans. He's out to gut the Middle Class for every red cent he can get. Will his sacred Mormon underwear grant him the protection and money to buy this election? See for yourself as Mitt dons his tighty-whities sent down from the Good Lord Himself at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2012/05/mitt-romneys-magic-mormon-underwear.html
Mike: I don't think Warren's keeping the issue alive. Around here, it never really died -- and no one else cares.
Folks around here need something they can use to reassure themselves until they get on to the tough work of figuring out who to blame for the unfolding debacle that is the Romney campaign. My guess is they'll settle on "he wasn't conservative enough".
@2 Duffman on September 18, 2012 05:31 PM,
More often than not Duffman you bring a breath of reasonable air to this pathetically psycho comment section. In this case you've gone over the edge.
President Obama (yeah, he was elected president) has NEVER "bowed" to any leader, nor "kissed" anything. Your use of language is (un?)intentionally designed to provoke and repeats BS talking points of those who don't give a shit about those "who have bravely given their lives" not for some BS notion of dignity, but to explicitly to preserve and defend the Constitution.
Regarding removing President Obama from office, that's why we have constitutional elections. As of yesterday the opposition forfeited that opportunity. I'll gladly eat crow on November 7th if I'm wrong, but I'm not.
"frightening"? You know what is frightening? People like you that are too dense to examine an issue and too damn dense to understand you are better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
The interesting thing is that 47% that doesn't pay income taxes and lives off the government are mostly Romney supporters. The elderly and hedge fund managers like Romney himself.
So I will take it from Warren's post that Conservatives are now going to demand that millionaires and billionaires pay the same in taxes as those of us in the middle class? But can Republicans handle going with a sensible fiscal policy that demands tax increases on the upper classes? Or are we stuck with more class warfare like Mitt Romney is endorsing?
Wow, nothing sends the leftists head spinning off their shoulders like stating a little truth. Good work, Warren.
Rest assured though, the 3 stooges above will be crying over at HA come November when president Downgrade gets sent packing with his report card he himself assessed: INCOMPLETE.
A much more accurate grade would have been "F", but a sociopath like Obama can't bring himself to take ownership of his failed 4 years. It's everyone else's fault ol' Barry is failing afterall. Just ask the sheep that will vote for him in November despite his utter and absolute failure in foreign and domestic policies.
@2 - Spot on, Duff. As it turns out, Mother Jones's recording without permission of the Romney campaign may have been illegal. They will probably see their day in court. The tape in its entirety should be available to the Romney campaign otherwise they will bring it to court sooner than later.
The off-mike quote from Obama to Medvedev is about a security issue, unlike Romney's commentary about the 47% that was not made for prime time - which helped clarify the difference between them. Obama's quote is troubling and YES he did bow to several leaders including the prince of Saudi Arabia.
@5 - Why are you leftists so dense that you can't see that Obama's agenda involves diminishing power with fewer missles and be less of a force in the world because that exactly where this country is headed- you are saying you don't believe in peace through strength ? Radical islamists would laugh in your face as would military experts. Your idea of politically correct world is a facade and a sick joke. Are you so dense that you would support Obama's foreign policy ? Lobotomized could be used interchageably with dense.
6: Hey train wreck, you seem confused. It would be an even more significant tax break if you really want "millionaires and billionaires [to] pay the same in taxes as those ... in the middle class". Seems to me you have no clue how much more they pay than those in the middle class. (You really need to learn how to express yourself better.)
But then you're the one promoting class warfare by only demanding tax increases on one group, so your whole point is whacked.
5: Hey BSer, what's the color of the sky in your world?
'President Obama ... has NEVER "bowed" to any leader'
Talk about being "too damn dense to understand you are better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt".
As pudge would say, "liar, liar, pants on fire". Even the liberal LA Times disagree with you.
11. President Obama has NEVER "bowed" to any leader...
So the king of Saudi Arabia isn't a leader now?
Stay on Youtube and watch more leader's not get bowed to by President Incomplete, Mikey. Can you say "Delusional"?
12. "Lizard Cheney" Mike BS, Is that the best you have? Such infantile insults sure help make your argument.
The basic idea here is that it is an inherent danger in democracy that a majority decides to yvote themselves largess from the public treasury. It's an idea that goes back a long way, and libs just expose their ignorance of history by the fact that they are 'shocked, shocked' over it.
I am heartened that Romney understands and espouses this basic idea. One more reason to vote for Romney.
He really didn't say anything regarding an absolute policy track he would take regarding missile defense, at least nothing that can be heard on that recording.
He's supposed to be a diplomat, everything he said can be read so many different ways when acting in that role, that blunt as it is, there is no definite hint of how this will play out should he be re-elected.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but he was also speaking to an outgoing president who only said he would "transmit" the information to Putin.
I agree with every word Romney said... and with my son who says it far better than I:
You know, I've always been pretty "on the fence" about Romney. Yea, it's always been a situation in which I'm not going to willingly cripple, castrate, and finally hang myself like one would by voting for Barack "Double Down On Complete Failure" Idiot - but that doesn't mean Romney is an easy sell simply because he's on the Republican ticket. But, you know... it's these kinds of "off the cuff" (as he puts it) remarks that draws my attention. I LIKE seeing the real Romney. I like knowing what I'm REALLY going to be buying should I cast my vote his way.
I wrote that last sentence very intentionally - because that's something people should really think about when they vote. You're BUYING something when you vote. You are COMMITTING to something for the next four years. I don't think even the most kool-aid drunk Jackass Party voter can say with a straight face that they don't have a nauseating case of buyer's remorse following four years of Barry Hopenchange. And, truth be told, I suspect that most Democrats would - if really pressed - admit that they're only voting for President Double-Downgrade because they DON'T want Romney and because they simply follow party lines. I actually suspect that most Democrats HATE Barack Idiot. I mean, think about it - this guy has really f*cked us all over. Short of drastic changes back to American principles, it's going to take us decades to remedy the damage he's caused. Seriously - for all you average schmoes that don't really pay attention - it's much, much worse than you think.
The Campaigner-in-Chief and his handlers would have you believe that, four years later, we're better off. Seriously? Seriously? Who here is THAT stupid? Bobo and the Momo must truly believe that the Democrats are idiots who will automatically believe it (for pete's sake, they're STILL blaming Bush despite four years of "change"), and that the Republicans are stupid enough to fall for it. Which, frankly, should be INSULTING to every single American. A casual glance at fuel prices, commodity prices, consumer goods prices, foreign affairs, the housing market, education statistics, and the national debt should be MORE than enough for any marginally intelligent person to realize the contrary. But - as Romney intimates very clearly with his statement - 47% of Americans are goddamned idiots, intent on voting themselves someone else's money. That's bullshit, and I LOVE to see Romney calling them on it - if only by virtue of a leaked video behind closed doors.
So, let's talk about what Romney said. Is he wrong? Someone on the left make the case for it.
Will the majority of Democrats vote for President Double-Downgrade no matter what?
Are the majority of Democrats who intend to vote for them dependent upon the government?
Do they believe they're victims, and think it's the government's responsibility to care for them?
Should a challenger even bother pandering to these kool-aid drinkers who KNOW that their free ride will stop if said challenger is elected? I mean, what's the point? Why SHOULD Romney even worry about them? Why SHOULDN'T he just write them off as the losers and failures that they are? Why pander to Democrats when they're clearly hellbent on NOT listening to anyone but who will give them their free ride?
Frankly, I'm a little pissed that Romney is acknowledging it as "not elegantly stated." I thought it was VERY elegantly stated - and I wish he'd own it, verbatim. Romney just laid it out there. He flat out said that Obama supporters are the ones who are the beneficiaries of something-for-nothing. These are people who will never be convinced that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. These people are the problem. That kind of brazen, balls-out, dead-on TRUTH about Democrats and Democrat voters is exactly what we should all be hearing. SO WHAT if they don't like hearing it - as Romney clearly knows, they weren't going to vote for him anyway. So why not call a spade a spade, and thumb your nose at them in brash defiance of EXACTLY what they ARE.
The Leftstream Media is clearly trying to paint this story as to say that Romney is insensitive to half the population. You know what? HE SHOULD BE. Screw those entitlement baby leeches. I would vote, IN A MINNESOTA HEARTBEAT, a candidate who had the brass balls to say to open cameras, in full press, "YOUR FREE RIDE IS OVER."
And then let the chips fall.
In this election, we're visiting a (very neutered) version of that. I think most people realize that this election will be a defining point for the fate of this nation. We're either going to vote ourselves recognition of some semblance of the true ideology and Constitutionalist principles of this country, or we're going to vote that we want a socialist, statist (and, dare I say, racist) nation that finally dispenses with those archaic notions of "personal freedom," "individual liberty," "property rights," "equality," and "opportunity."
Is that what you want?
And if not, then how can you possibly disagree with this "damning" footage of who and what Romney is really all about?
Go for it loud lefty's, answer his questions.
Brian~ Not to put too fine a point on it, but he was also speaking to an outgoing president who only said he would "transmit" the information to Putin.
Translation: I'll bend over and kiss Putin's ass once I can't be held accountable by the American people, just not before.
If you think you're mad now, wait until president downgrade releases the blind sheik responsible for the 1st bombings of the twin tower's if he's lucky enough to get enough turnips to give him a 2nd term. Let's hope that doesn't happen.
17. @16 - I wouldn't be surprised if he releases the blind sheik, but it will be after the election - in fact, that's my prediction. Once a weasel, always a weasel aka Obama.
@16 Rick D.
Thanks for the link, I wasn't aware of that.
While I hope he isn't released, I also hope somebody has at least some kind of plan in place to prepare for the threat mentioned in the letter.
I'm terrible at predicting anything political, about the only thing I'm certain of if Obama is re-elected is that near the end of his 2nd term there will be lots of talk along the fringes about him announcing some kind of emergency and staying in office. The same was said of Clinton (Y2K) and Bush (terrorists), so I think it's safe to say someone will claim such with Obama as well, beyond that, I have no idea.
re 16: "Translation: I'll bend over and kiss Putin's ass once I can't be held accountable by the American people, just not before."
Translation of the translation: "I'll be able to work on this problem in a reasonable way as soon as I don't hve to worry about these wingnut Smigels twisting everything into a right wing lie -- like Romney on the embassy attack."
20. @19 - when did you say you had your lobotomy ?
re -- 20. "@19 - when did you say you had your lobotomy ?"
Is that a reasonable question to ask a lobotomized individual? I don't remember when, but it was just before they rolled McMurphy in.
re: 19 Translation of the translation: "I'll be able to work on this problem in a reasonable way as soon as I don't hve to worry about these wingnut Smigels twisting everything into a right wing lie.~ Red Hiney Whiney
Hilarious. You lefties need some professional mental health counseling if you think Obama has solved ANY problems in his 4 years in office.Seriously.
Why would any sane individual think president empty suit would be any BETTER if given 4 more years to double down on stupidity?
Answer: They wouldn't.The days of the OJT presidency should be over in this country for the foreseeable future and that's why Mitt Romney will be the next POTUS come November. I really don't care if the left goes spinning out into their manic depressive episode for the next 4+ years, at least we'll have a competent person at the healm of the ship.
I am impressed that Romney divulged his tax returns for the last 20 years today, but I would be even more impressed if he danced on Harry Reid's face and responded that Obama can run and distract but he can't hide from his abysmal record and that won't go away and talk more about the virtues of small government and more liberty for all, which means you have get it the old fashioned way - you have to earn it...
With that said, I am disgusted with Romney's handlers and that have been largely incompetent and not campaigning on ideology against an ideologue candidate - Obama is why he is not resonating very well. Even if he is running vs. an incumbent, he should be up by at least 5%. As Donald Trump said - "you have to fight fire with fire" and take nothing for granted.
24. Really interesting blog, keep up the good work!
25. For the Government-media complex, this president is too much of a black liberal (extreme) to fail...