August 21, 2011
Arguments The Seattle Times Doesn't Want You To See (2)

I wasn't planning to do another in this series for at least a week, but this Michael Ramirez cartoon is too funny to pass up.

Is it unfair?  Not by the rather rough standards of political cartoons.

Posted by Jim Miller at August 21, 2011 02:08 PM | Email This
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1. Great Cartoon! It gives a very pointed reflection of what a narcissist our President is. He is so filled with himself that he is oblivious to the needs of this Nation with its High Unemployment. As long as he got his, he doesn't care about the rest of us.

Posted by: Daniel on August 21, 2011 02:55 PM
2. Funny cartoon!

Posted by: Michele on August 21, 2011 03:18 PM
3. I'm fascinated with conservatives that don't pretend to apologize for a Republican part-time president and full-time brush clearer, but feels that a Democratic President should never take a vacation.

Posted by: demo kid on August 21, 2011 07:54 PM
4. I'm fascinated by liberals who cannot distinguish between president who went to their OWN property - where security is established - rather than anew EVERY single time, EVERY single trip - and worked while being president and
- one whose wife takes a separate jet to the same place HE'S going a few hour later,
- one who is spending in excess of $50,000 per WEEK of taxpayer money just to rent vacation housing,
- one who has played more golf AND basketball in 34 months than the previous president did in 8 years.

I wonder what it is a about liberal presidents that they never have their own homes in which to live and/or vacation?

And, it's laughable how he moans the miserable economy, blames everyone and anyone up to and including a natural disaster on another continent, how he pretends to commiserate with suffering Americans on his bust tour, then runs off to the playground of the rich and famous, how his minions have been given orders to play down the fun he's having. Not only bad optics but hypocrisy writ large .... kind of like everything about this nouveau wannabe.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 21, 2011 09:06 PM
5.
...Going to the beautiful, secluded, wealthy island was the political equivalent of saying "let them eat cake," or in this case, lobster.

...But previous presidents didn't take those vacations while Americans pulled $23.5 billion out of their 401(k) plans - in just the first ten days of this month.

... President Obama had an opportunity this week, one he didn't take. Instead, he attacked Congressional Republicans who have gone on the record and voted in favor of overhauling entitlements, closing corporate loopholes, and cutting spending - at great risk to their own political futures - as people who have put politics before the good of the country. And then he left for a luxury vacation.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 21, 2011 09:20 PM
6. @3,

I am fascinated by Leftists that still won't own the Obama Presidency. Still trying to deflect current and applicable criticism with today's economy and three years of this administration's policy, especially when coupled with Pelosi's 2008-2010 Congress, by bringing up Bush?

I'm guessing that Leftists won't really own the Obama presidency until they are looking at it in the rearview mirror and seething with rage and turning the next Republican president in to another Bush as well.

Projection. It's what Leftists do best.

Posted by: Jeff B. on August 22, 2011 11:46 AM
7. Ramirez for President of La Raza!

Posted by: Insufficiently Sensitive on August 22, 2011 12:08 PM
8. And the hits just keep on coming for Prez Incompetent ... Of course it's Good news! for the rest of us.


Twitter Reaction to Obama's 'Magical Misery Tour' Mostly Negative

Positive: 6%
Negative: 71%

Obama hits the links for the 78th time

At 78 rounds of golf playing an average of 4 hours per round, the President has been on the golf course a total of 312 hours during his term. That's 13 twenty-four hour days. That's nearly two full weeks of time on the links.

How much is all this costing the American taxpayer? Has Obama paid for all these rounds? How much? How much does the Security provided during each round cost? What about support costs in terms of keeping him in touch with what's going on in the world, or the logistics undertaken by his staff? What about the costs incurred by the golf courses who presumably are having to shut down (or nearly shut down) in many respects to accommodate the President? Are they being compensated for the lost rounds they have to give up to have the President play?

It's all pretty interesting.

Of course, the brave Prez Incompetent thinks if he hides, maybe we won't notice.

But it was later, at the Vineyard Golf Course in Edgartown, where the president's recalcitrance was most evident. Approaching the eighth tee in a golf cart with friend and frequent golfing buddy Eric Whitaker, the president noticed three TV cameras and a Globe photographer across the street. Rather than stop and be photographed teeing off, the president skipped the hole.

The rest of what captured my interest today:

Check out some of these funny T-shirts and signs we've seen during our adventures on the island. Who knew politics could be so darn funny.

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Obama showing blacks how Big Government failed them

... So, according to the script of this political culture, election of a black man as president meant more than an end to racism. The conclusion had to be that if the man holding the highest political office in the nation was black, it must follow that blacks would be better off.

Now blacks have a dilemma. We have a black president and blacks are worse off. Not just a little, but a lot worse off. In the words of longtime Congressional Black Caucus member Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., "Our people are hurtin'.." ...

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If Only Obama Would Abdicate

... Let Barack The One Obama take his hectoring lecturing back to some university classroom somewhere, while the rest of us get about the business of reviving the country we so love. Ahh, we can only wish. ...

... Now I get it. Why wasn't it clear before now? If you don't like Obama's own ideas, you can't possibly be motivated by any honorable considerations. The only thing that can motivate the supreme being's opponents is politics of the crassest kind -- so benighted, indeed, that it amounts to selling out one's country. But if everybody would stop selling out their country for partisan gain, everything would suddenly be hunky-dory -- because, you see, it is only this unpatriotic partisanship that is "the problem right now" and the only thing "holding this country back."...

... The truth is, it's a sad day in America when Joe Biden's blarney would be a marked improvement in Oval Office leadership.

THREE on the Neener, Neener, Weiner, Weiner:

In the Race to Succeed Weiner, a Surprising Anger at Obama

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NYT shocked, shocked to find anger at Obama in Weiner's district

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New Yorkers As Angry With Obama As The Rest Of Us Are

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Free Trade Treaties: More Obama Double-Talk

...There's only one problem.

Congress is waiting for Obama to submit these trade proposals formally to them so that it can act.

You see, while President Obama is chalking up the treaties' delay to GOP partisanship, the reality is that he has been sitting on all three trade compacts since he took office. In fact, the three agreements were all finalized during the ending months of President Bush's second term. After assuming the helm, Obama decided to rework the South Korean deal and even extracted some concessions from both Panama and Colombian officials over labor practices. The revamped versions have been ready to go for some time now, yet Obama has not officially presented them to Congress.

Why not, you ask? If you thought it has something to do with American labor unions, bingo.

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Majority NABE Economists Believe Spending Cuts Are The Solution To Deficit Problem

The majority of economists surveyed by the National Association for Business Economics believe that the federal deficit should be reduced only or primarily through spending cuts.

The survey out Monday found that 56 percent of the NABE members surveyed felt that way, while 37 percent said they favor equal parts spending cuts and tax increases. The remaining 7 percent believe it should be done only or mostly through tax increases.

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AND just to explode the zombie-like repeated meme, the Koolaid pitcher and more than a few liberal heads:

Chart of the Week: Federal Spending on Defense vs. Entitlements

Oh my, can we get a union thug to clean up the mess?

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 22, 2011 12:20 PM
9. President Obama has taken 61 vacation days after 31 months in office.

At this point in their presidencies,

George W. Bush had spent 180 days at his ranch
and
Ronald Reagan had taken 112 vacation days at his ranch.

Among recent presidents, Bill Clinton took the least time off -- 28 days.

Posted by: historical facts on August 22, 2011 05:07 PM
10. RE 9 - Perhaps that is technically true - however, Obama's trips are always spectacles, always bad optics, always over the top expensive. As I said earlier, Reagan and both Bush's went to their own HOMES where security was never start over new and expensive.

Further, he and Michelle have this neat trick of turning their fun trips into 'official' trips by visiting some head of state or another - about 3 hours of official 'work' during days long expensive trips: quick down and dirty meet and greet with King Juan Carlos interrupted her glam vacation in Marbella, Spain. (I've been to Marbella - yep, its posh squared) where 40+ rooms had been booked for her, Sasha and 40 of their "closest" family friends and "good will' on her $800,000 week in Africa.

Give
me
a
break.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 22, 2011 05:35 PM
11. RE 9 - Perhaps that is technically true - however, Obama's trips are always spectacles, always bad optics, always over the top expensive. As I said earlier, Reagan and both Bush's went to their own HOMES where security was never start over new and expensive.

Further, he and Michelle have this neat trick of turning their fun trips into 'official' trips by visiting some head of state or another - about 3 hours of official 'work' during days long expensive trips: quick down and dirty meet and greet with King Juan Carlos interrupted her glam vacation in Marbella, Spain. (I've been to Marbella - yep, its posh squared) where 40+ rooms had been booked for her, Sasha and 40 of their "closest" family friends and "good will' on her $800,000 week in Africa.

Give
me
a
break.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 22, 2011 05:36 PM
12. Argh - I had an error message - sorry for the double.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 22, 2011 05:36 PM
13. Posted by demo kid at August 23, 2011 11:35 AM:
Well, I prefer a President that is actually on the job, thank you very much

Thank YOU for that perfect Gipper, W. and Holly Homemaker tee-up.

FLASHBACK--George W. Bush Gives Up Golf: 'Playing Golf During a War Sends Wrong Message'

... "I remember (Sergio Vieira) de Mello, who was at the U.N., got killed in Baghdad as a result of these murderers taking this good man's life," Bush said in the interview. "I was paying golf--I think I was in central Texas--and they pulled me off the golf course and I said, 'It's just not worth doing this anymore.'

... According to a June 2011 article in Golf Digest, Obama played 60 rounds of golf over his first two years as president.

From Obama's inauguration on Jan. 20, 2009 through July 31, 2011, at least 1,019 U.S. troops were killed in Afghanistan, according to a CNSNews.com database of casualties in that war. Those 1,019 deaths equal 64 percent of the total


And as for the optics, the FACTS speak for themselves... and most of America, evidently.


OBAMA APPROVAL INDEX HITS LOWEST EVER...
Highest Negative Rating Ever

...Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 19% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-five percent (45%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -26

This is the lowest Approval Index rating yet measured for President Obama. The previous low was -24 reached yesterday and also in September 2010. Additionally, the level of Strong Approval matches the lowest yet recorded. By way of comparison, President Bush had ratings near the end of his second term in the minus 30s.

Gallup: Disapproval of Obama Climbed to New High Last Week

As disapproval of Obama in the Gallup poll was rising to its all-time last week, approval of the president was dropping to its all-time low in the East (where it hit 44 percent), in the West (where it hit 39 percent) and among Hispanics (where it hit 44 percent).

Also, for the third straight week, approval of Obama among woman was 43 percent--its all-time low.

Obama Hits Bottom In Polls
The momentum of failure builds.

... The momentum of failure is difficult for Obama to escape. Public impressions of candidates form in strange ways. The media can consciously influence this process, but they don't fully control it.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 23, 2011 12:11 PM
14. Still, my original point stands... how is this different than ANY other president?

On his own he is utterly and completely incompetent.

EVERY single success he has had have been a repeat or extension of a BUSH policy GITMO, Afghanistan, taxes, terror trials to mention a few.

He dithers, whines, complains, lies, obfuscates, pouts, blames anyone handy and wastes time.

And the American people now know the empty suit charge was on target.

I notice how you ignore the reality of his pathetic and perpetually dropping polling.

Reality is always a problem for liberals.

I used to pity your mindless allegiance and his incompetence. Now I think you are both willing fools.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 23, 2011 01:29 PM
15. From Obama's inauguration on Jan. 20, 2009 through July 31, 2011, at least 1,019 U.S. troops were killed in Afghanistan, according to a CNSNews.com database of casualties in that war. Those 1,019 deaths equal 64 percent of the total

64 percent of the total

The war of choice of President Incompetent.
The war President Incompetent increased troops by 17,000.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 23, 2011 01:33 PM
16. What FACTS?
You never present any.

That parents who lost soldiers thought Bush wasn't giving up enough? That you and they thought he should somehow slit his wrists and send his daughters in order to satisfy your thirst for revenge on a man and his decisions you hate?

Do you equally hate President Incompetent for the very same decisions?

Do you hate that he's golfed 78 TIMES while soldiers are dying, while the economy has died, while the Japanese are suffering, while tornadoes, floods and hurricanes destroyed great swaths of the American heartland, while millions are unemployed, while food stamp use explodes, while the housing market implodes?

Pot: Kettle on FACTS. You're a terrific bomb thrower in the grand tradition of blamers and accusers. And your google tantrum comment is laughable in that you did precisely that with your UK Guardian hit piece.

Again, I used to pity your mindless allegiance and his incompetence. Now I think you are both willing fools.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 23, 2011 01:49 PM
17. I'd actually say that reality seems to be a big problem for you.

A = A

Actions always have consequences.

Despite daily proof of the negative (snicker: always 'unintended') consequence of every liberal policy from abortion to sex education to welfare to Obamacare to stimulus to regulation to over taxation to eco-dictatorship, liberalism always denies the reality of the consequences, cheer extending the failure and fervently believe WILL unicorns poop rainbows in their imagined utopia.


Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 23, 2011 02:01 PM
18. Never mind, of course, that the economy died, soldiers died, floods and hurricanes destroyed great swaths of the US, millions became unemployed, food stamp use exploded, and the housing market imploded... all on Bush's watch.

Not quite.
Economy worsened under President Incompetent.
MORE soldiers died under President Incompetent.
President Incompetent ignored then LIED about flooding, tornadoes and hurricanes - he claimed tens of thousand died while it was TWELVE.
Food Stamp worsened under President Incompetent.
And houses are worth half what they were under under President Incompetent.

Those are all FACTS - since I refuse to provide you with any research welfare, YOU can look them up.

He wanted this job; he asked America to give it to him; he told them he was up to it; he lied, cajoled and telepromptered his way to it.
I really have to wonder then, when President Incompetent is going to put his big boy pants on, do the job and start accepting HIS responsibility. I mean really, it's only been THIRTY ONE MONTHS. Clearly polls indicate all but the biggest koolaid fools wonder the same thing.

I wonder why you refuse to address THOSE facts.

I wonder why you refuse to address that America is screaming over the Marie Antoinette OPTICS of the Incompetent President and that he blithely refuses to notice while he sucks down his ice cream.

Doesn't seem like you can actually make an argument on your own anyway.

I really do wish you were half as clever as you think you are.

YOUR dirty little secret is that when we post links, you accuse us of not thinking for ourselves; when we post our own comments, you accuse us of not backing them up with links to facts.

It's a convenient and pathetic game. I'm sure the other donkeys are waiting at your stall over at HA to play it with you.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 23, 2011 03:49 PM
19. Oh let's just preempt the liberals and fools and get down to this east coast earthquake.

It was on the BUSH FAULT line.

The worst part wasn't the shaking or the fallen spires at the National Cathedral (Ha! Ask the ACLU and the atheists!), it was that Obama missed his putt.

Clearly it wasn't the TERRORIST tea partiers, just the RACIST tea partiers.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 23, 2011 04:11 PM
20. So very much has been made of 'going to a war of choice' unnecessarily, wantonly toppling terrorist dictators and sticking our nose in the business of other countries. So much angst, accusations and vitriol over presidential decisions and how they were perceived.

Mission

Accomplished,

dude.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 23, 2011 04:45 PM
21. For all the people that continue to defend Bambi and Company, the Democrats, and the general liberal progressive movement and their constant idiocy... what are they thinking?

It makes you wonder if, having future knowledge of the way things turn out, they'd vote for Jimmy Carter again.

I'll bet demokid would.

Posted by: AT on August 23, 2011 05:25 PM
22. You're absurd. You've moved off the original topic of discussion -- presidential vacations - ... Likewise, your complete lack of any ability to take responsibility for the massive blunders of a Republican administration, while laying all the sins of a Democratic administration at the feet of all progressives, is patently absurd.Posted by: demo kid on August 23, 2011 05:17 PM

Liberals have such short memories - of their OWN words: 3. I'm fascinated with conservatives that don't pretend to apologize for a Republican part-time president and full-time brush clearer, but feels that a Democratic President should never take a vacation. Posted by: demo kid on August 21, 2011 07:54 PM

AND I'll put/take Nigerian NEWS over Wikipedia and/or Google EVERY day of the week. Google is little more than an agenda posing as a search engine.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 23, 2011 05:32 PM
23. So is that a yes? Even knowing the way things turn out, you'd vote for Jimmy Carter again?

I mean, I'm sorry, but I don't really care how much you like how the administration sucks up to corporations, or how ambivalent you are to its management style, or what you think of the alternatives. That's not the question.

The question is: knowing what you know, would you vote for Jimmy Carter twice?

It's a simple yes or no question.

Posted by: AT on August 23, 2011 06:09 PM
24. I'll bet demokid would.

Only a sucker would take that bet.

I'll bet demokid would.

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Anyone that thinks that a pizza magnate or a former half-term Alaskan governor or a crazy tax lawyer with little private sector experience (and no executive experience) could run the country is seriously addled.

Newsflash: Palin has not announced a run for President. I believe she is happy just to get under your skin. She certainly succeeds at it.

The Pizza magnate, the CEO, the Chairman of a federal reserve bank, and a US Navy ballistics mathematician has far more experience than a community organizer. Are you afraid the racist meme will come back to bite the donkey butt?

A long serving governor, a former lieutenant governor, agriculture commissioner and Air Force pilot has more success and experience than a community organizer. The fact that he's a recovered Democrat is icing on the cake. Yes, yes I know your liberal whine: the jobs he enabled in Tezas are low playing jobs. Newsflash, besides being untrue, a person with out a job covets even a low paying one.

And a lawyer with a masters degree in tax law with actual experience practicing law for the IRS is far better qualified to deal with the RESULTS of an over burdened economy and over taxed citizenry than a part time law 'professor' and community organizer.

AND frankly, had he been an effective state representative and/or state senator that narrative might have been different. Instead he avoided the hard work, he avoided any and all votes that he perceived might be held against him and voted a cowardly "PRESENT".

You already elected a person with little private sector experience and no executive experience. We all see how that's working out.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 23, 2011 06:13 PM
25. AT @23 - Calling him Bambi implies a shocked doe eyed innocence. In any situation there is a natural limit on how long you can remain shocked or innocent in it.

Somewhere along the line in any job the learning curve has to bend up. Obama's has not done so.

Further, by continuing to call him a shocked doe-eyed innocent it allows him to be viewed as a VICTIM of a job/situation just too difficult, when the truth is opposite: HE was never up to the job.

It's more accurate to call him 'President Incompetent' based on his flat dead learning curve, on his inability to give credit, on his inability to admit he's wrong, on his fall back position of blame.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 23, 2011 08:35 PM
26. Calling him Bambi implies a shocked doe eyed innocence.

Indeed. Kind of makes you wonder what business a helpless, hapless fawn had offering himself as the leader of the free world, doesn't it. Or what kind of idiot it had to take to elect one.

I don't blame Barack Idiot. I blame the legions of morons that elected him, drunk on his hope and change kool-aid. It's like they never even bothered to think it through. (Assuming, of course, that they were thinking in the first place - which is a big "if.")

Hence the question - knowing what we know, who in their right mind would vote for Jimmy Carter in hindsight?

Besides demokid, obviously.

Posted by: AT on August 23, 2011 08:40 PM
27. Anyone that thinks that a pizza magnate or a former half-term Alaskan governor or a crazy tax lawyer with little private sector experience (and no executive experience) could run the country is seriously addled.... I mean, c'mon. Palin? Bachmann? Perry? I'm amazed that any Republican can stand up and be proud of politicians that are so ill-equipped to be in any public office, let alone the chief executive. Posted by demo kid at August 23, 2011 05:39 PM


"little private sector experience (and no executive experience) ... politicians that are so ill-equipped to be in any public office, let alone the chief executive":

What if Obama isn't so smart?

Eek! Another Republican moron is running for president, and the blogs on the Left are aghast.

Another village in Texas is missing its idiot!

Another s--t-kicking cowboy has messed with their heads.

... Fortunately we have such a thinker, "capable to examining" things to perfection, and that is the problem: President Obama is their ideal of a thinker. He is president, and he has been -- how to put it? -- a bomb.

Based on results, Perry has been more successful as governor of Texas than Obama has been as president, or as anything else he has ever tried being, in the entire whole course of his life.

In 2008, Obama was hailed as a genius, a "first rate intellect," the smartest man to ever be president, and we know now the first part is true. He is the political genius who shed 30 points in his first years in office.

He's the political genius who blew up his coalition in his first months in office, who led his party to annihilation in the 2010 midterms (while showing utter indifference to the fate of congressional Democrats), and gave the Republicans -- who were on the floor, in a coma -- more than they needed to come roaring back from the dead.

He is the policy genius who "leads from behind," whose engagement ideas have gone nowhere, whose stimulus stimulated only the deficit, whose health care "success" helped kill off his recovery, and whose efforts to create jobs all fell flat. ...

And if Obama is brilliant, and Bush is an imbecile, how come the genius kept most of the things the dolt set in motion: the protocols for fighting the war against terror, the surge strategy, the timetables, and even, in Robert Gates and David Petraeus, some of his main appointees? Why couldn't the genius improve on the idiot's handiwork?

Maybe he isn't that bright.

"Boys will be boys..."

"Shall we play a game?" Let's look at an excerpt from a speech, edited (in bold) so as not to give away the punch line:

The problem is, is that the way the president has done it over the last few years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first X presidents - #X+1 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $X trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back -- $X0,000 for every man, woman and child. That's irresponsible. It's unpatriotic.

So, which wingnut mouthed this drivel? That rightwing nutbar would be ... candidate Barack Hussein Obama in 2008. Full quote, unedited:

The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents - #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back -- $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That's irresponsible. It's unpatriotic.

Ergo, if Bush adding $4 trillion in debt in eight years makes him "unpatriotic", then what does adding $4 trillion in 2.5 years make Oba-Mao?

Hypocrisy is a dish served cold.

Obama 'Beats' Bush's U.S. Debt Accumulation...in Less Than Half the Time

In 31 months of Barack Obama's presidency, according to the Treasury and CBS News, the US has added $4 trillion to its national debt. That approaches the presidential record set by George W. Bush of $4.9 trillion, but there's a catch to that. Bush set that record in two terms -- in 96 months.

3 Years Of Obama's Job Promises, Promises

Corresponding the unemployment numbers with Obama's job promises since he took office was almost too easy.

His mouth goes up and down but unemployment and the economy only move in one direction.

I'm sure when demo-kid finds his big boy pants he'll come back and refute away ... right after he mumbles something about babbling and links ... and answers AT's question.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 24, 2011 11:10 AM
28. Yoo hooo demo kid....

And the optics? Well, I prefer a President that is actually on the job, thank you very much. Didn't seem to get that with the last Republican in the office. -Posted by demo kid at August 23, 2011 11:35 AM

Obama's trips are always spectacles, always bad optics, always over the top expensive.-Posted by RagnarDanneskold at August 22, 2011 05:35 PM

I wonder why you refuse to address that America is screaming over the Marie Antoinette OPTICS of the Incompetent President - Posted by RagnarDanneskold at August 23, 2011 03:49 PM

REPORT: Michelle Obama 'vacation junkie' spending $10m taxpayers money...

The Obamas' summer break in Martha's Vineyard has already been branded a PR disaster after the couple arrived four hours apart on separate government jets.

But according to new reports, this is the least of their extravagances.

White House sources today claimed that the First Lady has spent $10million of U.S. taxpayers' money on vacations alone in the past year.

"If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan." Barack Obama on Tuesday, August 11th, 2009 in a town hall meeting

Nearly one of every 10 midsized or big employers expects to stop offering health coverage to workers once federal insurance exchanges start in 2014, according to a new survey from a large benefits consultant.

Yes, I wanted to keep our health insurance. Our health insurance was with the Principal Financial Group. They discontinued ALL health insurance coverage

Pathetic

Harry Truman famously said, "The buck stops here." Ronald Reagan told the nation during the Iran-Contra scandal, "I take full responsibility for my own actions and for those of my administration." When Barack Obama's economic policies failed and his approval ratings plummeted, he followed the precedents of his predecessors and manfully admitted that ... it's all Congress' fault:
President Barack Obama says his low approval rating is a reflection of public unhappiness with Congress.

Obama tells CBS in an interview broadcast Sunday that he's "impacted," just like Congress, when people aren't happy with Washington.


Voters are telling Obama that they're not happy with his performance and the economic results of his policies. Instead of acknowledging that, he's excusing himself from responsibility by essentially saying that voters are too stupid to distinguish between the two ends of Pennsylvania Avenue.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 24, 2011 12:02 PM
29. WHY did you denigrate conservative presidents in the SECOND comment in a post about THIS president?
WHY can' t you defend the Incompetent President without invoking his predecessor?
WHY have you refused to discuss the horrendous optics of the Incompetent President's PR debacle?
WHY do you dismiss a subject concerning the Incompetent President even when there are many conservatives discussing it but consider and equal number of liberals discussing a subject valid?
WHY is it changing the subject ONLY when someone other than you does it?
WHY is it FACTS can never come from conservative sites but there's no problem when Huffington or other liberal opinion sites are quoted?
WHY do you only sneer at sites you don't like rather than refuting them?
WHY haven't you answered AT's question, one clearly asked of you specifically?
WHY are you so insecure about your own point of view that you ALWAYS resort to childish invective?

I suspect the WHY of every single question has to do with cowardice, intellectual laziness and blind allegiance.

You are boringly predictable. We all know (even YOU if you were honest enough to admit it to yourself), that you'll now go off and pout, ignoring the questions specifically directed to you, hoping everyone forgets you were asked, only to come back and spew more unoriginal invective.

Grow up.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 25, 2011 05:24 PM
30. Because I was pointing out a very real double standard that exists.

WHY doesn't it bother you when your side engages in it?

Because conservatives seem blind to very real criticisms of previous presidents that go far beyond the hyperbolic screaming of dense conservatives that simply repeat the words fed to them by their masters.

Oh I see: it's the CONSERVATIVES fault you can't/won't defend him.
What the hell does that have to do with your refusal/INABILITY to defend him? At best that's a lazy argument. At worst it's dishonest. Get a clue - your refusal has absolutely NOTHING to do with conservatives OR previous presidents of either party or even me.

Because it's a non-issue. Presidents have taken vacations to Martha's Vineyard before, and to assume that it's "bad optics" is blind to the fact that the AMOUNT of time taken off should be just as much as (if not more than) a concern as whether they decide to take a vacation that their political opponents don't like.

Oh really? A non-issue? Then WHY was the White House scrambling to portray him as working? WHY the refusal to allow pictures? WHY was there poll after poll on it? WHY so many lefty sites and news organizations bringing it up? Want a list?

Because it's not germane to the continuing discussion. Pulling random Townhall.com articles amounts to little more than spamming the adults that want to have a mature discussion.

Yet another lovely non-answer to yet another question. WHY are you so adept at deflecting? Because you can't answer or refuse to admit the truth?

Then bring me back to the main point of the discussion. Nearest I can tell, whenever I ask you a question, you go wandering off.

Oh really? Then WHY were you the FIRST to do it by dragging in the SUBJECT of other presidents?

Because the stories that you linked to were largely opinion pieces, and not "facts". Just because some random contributor to The Blaze says it doesn't mean that it's true.

For example, posting a link to The American Spectator about liberals "reality problem" proves what, exactly?

Then WHY don't you REFUTE them rather than attack/dismiss them? Why don't you discuss YOUR side of what they're saying? Surely you must realize that even Huffington doesn't just pull notions out of their butts then proceed to comment on them. The opinion pieces are thoughts on based on actual FACTS and actual events that have occured. Further, most conservative authors, knowing the hypocrisy and bomb throwing of liberals, ALWAYS link to the FACTS that led them to their opinions. But that we could say the same for liberal opinion pieces.

Seems like you've done the same above. And when you link to posts that are just opinion pieces and empty of actual facts, it's not worth anyone's time to respond.

I absolutely love it when you are so hapless to defend yourself that you devolve to the Pee Wee Herman defense: I know you are, but what am I? Really? That's the best you can do? Again, refer to my comment about pity and willful ignorance.

Because it's irrelevant.

To whom? WHY aren't YOUR questions irrelevant?

Seems like you indulge in a large helping of that as well. @8: "AND just to explode the zombie-like repeated meme, the Koolaid pitcher and more than a few liberal heads..."

Do you know the meaning of invective? Do you know the difference between an adjective and a noun? Do you know the difference between attacking an IDEA and attacking a person? Shall I quote your DIRECT insulting invective back to you?


And lazy is posting up multiple links and large block quotes and assuming that it somehow make a good argument. I've made a reasonable point that you have yet to refute: there is no evidence that you've provided that Obama's vacation habits are unusual, and given that he's spent more time on the job than Bush, I've argued that this is simply a whole lot of conservatives trying to score points in any desperate way they can. You've decided to post everything under the sun that you can dredge up.

If you're talking about cowardice, I'd argue that you're a coward for not writing your own material. Same goes for intellectual laziness and blind allegiance... doesn't take much to cut and paste from all the stories you read and blindly assume are true.

Yep, I post links. Get over it. It proves two things: I read a lot and I like to share what I read. The bonus is that it often proves and/or bolsters the point being made.

Again, it's a circular trap with you and your ilk: give an opinion and you whine about facts; give a fact and you whine about source. And yet, I notice you have yet to expound on any subject with "your own material". Further if you did, it would merely be YOUR opinion. Go back ^up there^ and read about it again.

And heck, when you were faced with an actual fact, you said that it was "technically true", and then proceeded like it didn't matter very much. Is that the behavior of an even-handed person, or a blind partisan?

FACTS have reasons; Some FACTS have exceptions; Some "facts" are manipulated to fit a narrative. So yes something can be "technically true" and need explaination. Just ONE PROOF of that on the liberal side is Obama claiming unemployment is going down. "Technically true" except he neglects to mention those who simply stopped looking for jobs or have taken part time jobs.

No, unlike you, my full-time job is not posting here.

LOL! I come in once a day - unless it's to amuse myself with you. You may have forgotten how I described you - If SP was a cat, you'd be it's toy on a string it bats around when bored.

Again, I don't know why I put up with this. Go ahead and have your fun... you're hardly a skilled debater, and I have better ways to spend my time.

And yet, here you are first thing in the morning.
I may not be a "skilled" debater, but I get in the game. I don't blame today on yesterday; I don't cower behind the 'he did it first' excuse, I don't ignore hard questions and I don't RUN.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 26, 2011 01:29 PM
31. No, a lazy argument is when you slam a sitting president for taking vacations, when previous presidents have taken MORE vacation, and likely spent just as much of the taxpayers' money.

Thank you for admitting you're a dope. The SUBJECT of the post was is a Michael Ramirez cartoon about President Incompetent GOLFING. The DATE of the cartoon was 08/19/2011 - the very same time President Incompetent left for his vacation. I am so sorry you are so very confused.


It's a non-issue because it's actually a non-issue in reality.

In what possible sense are YOU the arbiter of that over paid pundits, liberal AND conservative political writers, the white house and the majority of the American people.


You waste everyone's time.

In what possible sense are YOU the arbiter of that. No one asks you to READ my posts, let alone agonize over them. Do us both a favor- when you see my name -SKIP THE DAMNED COMMENT.

Because it's germane to the subject. If you're going to criticize the current president that you don't agree with for his vacation habits, it's very relevant to bring up previous presidents that you do agree with that have taken MORE vacation time.

BS. Once again, the SUBJECT of the post was is a Michael Ramirex cartoon about President Incompetent GOLFING. The DATE of the cartoon was 08/19/2011 - the very same time President Incompetent left for his vacation.

Because I have little interest in debating the finer points of twelve opinion pieces from weak right-wing writers that are not related. Likewise, you're not actually linking to them for any reason other than laziness... you can't make your points, so you're expecting people to wade through page after page of garbage to see how much you hate Obama and liberals.

I agree, it's just so much easier for you to denigrate and dismiss than to DEBATE the points I've raised, that you hate, yet READ. Got it.

Because I have little interest in debating the finer points of twelve opinion pieces from weak right-wing writers that are not related. Likewise, you're not actually linking to them for any reason other than laziness... you can't make your points, so you're expecting people to wade through page after page of garbage to see how much you hate Obama and liberals.

I agree, it's just so much easier for you to denigrate and dismiss than to DEBATE the points I've raised, that you hate, yet READ. Got it.

Well, you are pitiful and willfully ignorant.

So now you are plagerizing MY exact comments and attempting to use them back against me. How clever. And it only took you nearly 27 hours. Try harder.

No, posting links proves that you: a.) read a lot of the same thing, b.) you aren't critical about what you read, and c.) you believe that an argument can be won through spam.

You got a least one point right - one I provided for you. The rest is your opinion - I'm glad it interests YOU. Spam is an annoying something people don't want to see. YOU seem to be the only person that has a problem with my links. I again suggest you STOP READING my posts.

Gotta love it when you claim that some facts are being manipulated to fit a narrative... when you manipulate facts to prove a narrative.

Nice attempt to manipulate words to avoid answering yet again.

I hardly ignore "hard" questions... I just ignore people that wallow in irrelevant talking points.

And yet you here you are again NOT ignoring my posts.

Not to mention that I have an annoying habit of trying to get the last word...

So did all 3 of my now adult sons - when they were 12. They too thought they were being more clever than they actually were. They, however, grew out of it

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 27, 2011 08:33 PM
32. AND just to annoy the hell out of you, JUST because I know you can't/won't resist:

Ramirez on Washington's fault lines

The earthquake near the nation's capital this week prompted speculation about fault lines in the Washington DC area. This has actually been a hot topic for the White House, as it desperately searches for ways to blame the economic failures of Barack Obama on anyone but Barack Obama. The President and his team have repeatedly blamed "bad luck," corporate jet owners, the Tea Party, and the weather for the malaise and high unemployment that have become hallmarks of his term in office. Two-time Pulitzer Prize-winning editorial cartoonist Michael Ramirez of Investors Business Daily puts the two stories into his singularly unique perspective ...

... Small wonder Ramirez calls the White House the "epicenter of excuses."


AND just to confuse your one track, ideologically driven little brain, we have Bill O'Reilly of the horrid and hated FOX News defending President Incompetent.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskold on August 27, 2011 08:45 PM
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