August 12, 2011
Two Views On The British Riots
And here's one from the
which includes odd paragraphs like this one:
Start with introspection about growing poverty and racial and cultural tensions, add a
soupçon of revisionist political science, and mix in a technological riff from the Arab spring,
rioters roving from district to district connected by instant messaging and social networking.
I know what "soupçon" and "revisionist" mean, and I know a little about political science,
but I haven't a clue what they are trying to say there.
Compare and contrast, or just contrast, if you prefer.
(There's a mistake in the editorial that will annoy software folks; the editorial writer thinks the
riots might have been inspired by the "pinging" scandal, which the British have been calling the
"hacking" scandal. Anyone who knows what
pinging actually means would have spotted that
Posted by Jim Miller at August 12, 2011
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Sorry Jim, you missed the underlying causes of the riots.
But then, so did the ST Editorial board. The ST board seems to believe they have special insight into intricacies of structure and working of foreign governments. Their editorial on the British riots demonstrate that they are clueless.
Manhattan Institute scholar, Theodore Dalrymple provides real and meaningful insight into the riots in England.
"British Rioters The Spawn Of A Bankrupt Ruling Elite":
We have a ruling elite in this country with similar views. Our entitlement development has not evoloved to match England yet. But they are doing their best to make it so.
Paddy - I'm not sure why you think I was discussing the "underlying causes" of the riots.
Or why you think there is a conflict between what Dalrymple wrote and what I wrote.
Could you explain, please?
An interesting post. Like you, I immediately thought of Banfield's essay on "Rioting for Fun and Profit" after first reading of the British riots. (You must also be an old duffer.)
Some obvious parallels with the American race riots of the 1960s stand out. Resentment of an incident of police violence as the initiating "spark" is one. An immediate effort by liberal intelligentsia to provide a "larger" social meaning to the ensuing mayhem is another. (Remember the Kerner Commission?)
I read the Seattle Times comment, incoherent as it is, as part of a similar effort. The reference to "revisionist political science" is probably an allusion to the theory popularized in the late 1960s and early 1970s that American political institutions fail to represent the interests of large swaths of the "underclass." There are no riots, therefore, merely irruptions of inarticulate (but of course legitimate) rage.
4. The best way to keep your store safe during urban riots is to call it a book store no matter what you sell. Book stores seem to repel looters for some reason.
Few of these rioting pukes would have any desire to loot a book store as most of them probably can't read. Or like America's urban indolents, they don't need books because they already know everything.
6. Some obvious parallels with the American race riots of the 1960s stand out.
Do they ever. I was drawn, by a one-way street, into the middle of the Philadelphia riot of 1964, and can report that it was a carnival atmosphere, not a revolution of righteous rage. In which folks with shopping carts strolled happily from store to store, 'selecting' merchandise through broken windows and entrances.
Even the Coke bottle which bounced across our hood was cancelled by a carload of blacks who sympathised with us nervous honkies enough to lead us out of the turmoil to a quiet part of town.
The big 'anti-war' riots of the 60s have been described as recreational turbulence, as our oh-so-righteous students found opportunities to commit exciting raids against the civilized world in such numbers as provided safety for most against accountability. And why not? The MSM cheered them on and provided their cover story.
Now they themselves are at the helm of the MSM, and are busily providing the same cover story to encourage today's welfare-subsidized, or just ordinary middle-class, looters out for that old adrenaline-stirring excitement.
The ST is a contemptible piece of parrot cage liner because of such rapier-sharp analysis from the writer and his boyfriend.
It's impact extends from Elliott Bay to Lake Washington, and from Tukwila to Lake City.
UK Riots Blamed on Liberals
Police water cannon and plastic bullets?
After 50 years of the most lavish welfare state on earth? What an abject failure
As the polluted flood (it is not a tide; it will not go back down again) of spite, greed and violence washes on to their very doorsteps, well-off and influential Left-wingers at last meet the filthy thing they have created, and which they ignored when it did not affect them personally.
... All this piffle enshrines the official (and hopelessly wrong) view that crime is caused by circumstances and background, not by unleashed human evil. It is precisely because of this windy falsehood that the cells are crammed with young men who broke the law because they felt like it.
Hulking louts - black and white, for this was an equal-opportunity crimewave - are accompanied before the bench by alleged 'parents' who are obviously afraid of their broods. Nothing is said or done to express official disapproval of crime. The accused are treated more like patients than like wrongdoers.
10. Me personally am not a big fan of the Police neither did i join the Army to do their job, not that we actually have any soldiers spare to do it anyways.