February 12, 2011
Republican, Conservative and Black

Below are links to videos of speeches given by two African American leaders at the 2011 CPAC - the Conservative Political Action Conference. The first is by Herman Cain, former CEO of Godfathers Pizza and now a writer and talk show host in Atlanta, Georgia. The second is the closing speech of the conference given by retired Army Lieutenant Colonel and newly elected Congressman Allen West.

Listening to them gives one hope for America.

Herman Cain at CPAC

Allen West at CPAC

Cross Posted on clearfogblog

Posted by warrenpeterson at February 12, 2011 06:31 PM | Email This
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1. @1 We understand that you are a deranged neo-commie. And your point is...pointless.

Either Cain or West would be a lot better for the health, security and welfare of this country than the current statist regime in power. But, never underestimate the stupidity of the American public.

Posted by: KDS on February 12, 2011 10:28 PM
2. Love these two guys!

Posted by: Michele on February 13, 2011 12:08 AM
3. Another great American leader that people should check out is new republican Congressman Tim Scott, of the 1st District of South Carolina. Good man.

Posted by: Michele on February 13, 2011 01:42 AM
4. http://timscott.house.gov/

Posted by: Michele on February 13, 2011 01:48 AM
5. Cain, West and Scott are excellent examples of black conservative leaders. Look for these guys to make their mark on the American political scene. I would love to have either Rep Scott or Rep West represent Washington's 6th district, rather than pork chop socialist Norm Dicks.

Posted by: Saltherring on February 13, 2011 08:06 AM
6. Honest question: Why did the Right never put any of these guys, or Michael Steele, front and center on such a routine or concerted basis until Obama took office? Will they continue to do so after he's out of office?

Posted by: Joe Szilagyi on February 13, 2011 09:09 AM
7. Colin Powell, Condelezza Rice both say you are wrong Joe.

Posted by: Smokie on February 13, 2011 09:25 AM
8. Cain, West and Scott appear to be as conservative as any other in the Republican Party. That is why they have emerged as future leaders of the conservative movement. As to their skin color, I couldn't care less if they are black, white, or otherwise. I likewise cheer Paul Ryan and other young conservative leaders. It is the left that is obsessed with race and skin color, and that is why they get it all wrong regarding conservatives' universal contempt for Barack Obama. It is the man's beliefs (Marxist), style of governance (ram it down their throats Bolshevism) and the damage his policies have done to our country. If he were white, I would detest his administration all the same.

Posted by: Saltherring on February 13, 2011 09:25 AM
9. Isn't it funny our lefties are the ones making the big deal about, horror of their horrors, a black is a conservative.

They are the ones who can't wrap their heads around the facts that people (read, blacks) think for themselves. They'd probably be shocked to learn of Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell, Star Parker, Lloyd Marcus, Mychal Massie, Erik Rush, Ellis Washington amongst many others.

It's telling that they truly believe and loudly shout that any black American who strays from the liberal plantation is an aberration. What does that say about their racism and their value of blacks as thinking citizens?

Posted by: RagnarDanneskjold on February 13, 2011 10:24 AM
10. Hey, you found a couple'a black guys in your party! How nice for you...

Why do you find this noteworthy?

Posted by: scottd on February 13, 2011 11:07 AM
11. Blacks are Republicans, they just don't know it yet. Democrats do not share their values.

Posted by: Dan on February 13, 2011 11:24 AM
12. on topic:
1-West will be the first competent black POTUS.
2-Go read Ann Coulter's column this week on conservative gays http://www.anncoulter.com. Agree with her or not, Ann can put sentences together to form cogent thoughts like no one else.

Posted by: Andy on February 13, 2011 12:12 PM
13. on topic:
1-West will be the first competent black POTUS.
2-Go read Ann Coulter's column this week on conservative gays http://www.anncoulter.com. Agree with her or not, Ann can put sentences together to form cogent thoughts like no one else.

Posted by: Andy on February 13, 2011 12:13 PM
14. scottd @ 11

So...

Your side says the Republican party is all white racists. We point out numerous examples that contradict that position and then you ask why we point it out?

And you wonder why we say you have no credibility.

Posted by: Eyago on February 13, 2011 12:53 PM
15. Your side says the Republican party is all white racists.

I'm not sure what you're talking about, Eyago. It's certainly not something I've said.

But I think it's funny that you think pointing out a few black faces at the recent wingnut shindig proves something. Next you'll be telling me that you have some black friends.

What do you think about Dan's view @12 that black people aren't smart enough to know which party they should be supporting?

Posted by: scottd on February 13, 2011 01:25 PM
16. Ha--Herman Cain outs liberals for their extra-silliness: He reports to the crowd that to his amazement he's been called 'racist' for disagreeing with Obama. harhar--the Left is so silly! Can hardly believe they say that stuff with a straight face and expect to be taken seriously. As if you can't simply disagree with someone's ideas, period.

Posted by: Michele on February 13, 2011 02:12 PM
17. scottd

I did not say you said it, just that its a common theme of the left that the right are racist. Of course, since no evidence is required for them, it is obvious that no evidence to the contrary would be accepted as proof against.

Conservatives have no racial litmus test and welcome people based on their ideas and values. Having blacks (and minorities of all other types) in prominent positions within the party is significant. It shows that we DON'T care what color their skin is.

I'm not sure why the left has such trouble with simple logic.

Posted by: eyago on February 13, 2011 02:21 PM
18. It shows that we DON'T care what color their skin is.

Sure it does. That's why Warren pointed it out in his headline.

Posted by: scottd on February 13, 2011 02:28 PM
19. See post #7 for the answer to Scottd's question.

"Honest question: Why did the Right never put any of these guys, or Michael Steele, front and center on such a routine or concerted basis until Obama took office? Will they continue to do so after he's out of office?"

Who are "these guys" he is talking about? Is he a sexist as well as a racist?

Posted by: Smokie on February 13, 2011 02:36 PM
20. White Oscar Night: It's Obama's Fault

The average person who sees the photo line-up of the current Oscars nominees does not immediately think, oh, my God, how terrible, they're all white!

Journalists obsessed with identity politics think however that there's a big story here, some kind of lesson to be drawn about race relations in Hollywood, and by extension, in the American society that Hollywood reflects. ...

... It is not stated overtly but when they talk about "unsettling...times," they refer no doubt to the conservative upsurge in the country, i.e., the popularity of the Tea Party and politicians like Sarah Palin. It therefore stands to reason by this logic that since these groups are inherently racist, the country's movie industry will exclude African-Americans.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskjold on February 13, 2011 03:14 PM
21. Questions to scottd: Can you think? Are you real? Reading the gibberish in post 16 leads me to believe you shouldn't be out on the street by yourself.

Several have accused the leftist nuts who post here of being one person. I contend it would take at least three or four of them to generate a brain with a collective IQ of 50.

Get lost, idiot(s).

Posted by: Saltherring on February 13, 2011 03:26 PM
22. scottd,

You are using a form of the loaded question fallacy.

By your standards we are guilty of racism, though you offer no proof. We take the time to demonstrate we are not, which requires reference to race, and then you use that defense as proof of our racism.

In other words, there is no way to defend against the accusation without "proving" the accusation.

You might think you are clever, but no one with any intelligence is particularly impressed by you.

Posted by: Eyago on February 13, 2011 04:01 PM
23. Care to explain your thought process in arriving at this conclusion? And who is/are the 'we' that you speak of?

Sounds like Groupthink.

Posted by headless Lucy at February 13, 2011 02:27 PM

If you are the same headless Lucy who posted here 6-7 years ago, I was addressing that person based on your previous far left groupthink comments you posted then and seemed to be continuing. If you are not her (which I doubt), then I would retract that comment.

Leftwing groupthink - Liberals and leftists have the belief deep down that women and blacks belong to them and if any one out those two groups comes across as conservative, they are traitors and sellouts by definition (worse than the devil(s)). Examples include Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, Condolezza Rice and soon Col. Allen West and Herman Cain.

Posted by: KDS on February 13, 2011 05:22 PM
24. As many of us recall from a few years back, headless lucy's email was traced back to either Seattle Public Schools or some other gov't employer, and, posted during business hours when on the job.

You go girl...

Posted by: Hank on February 13, 2011 05:32 PM
25. Eyago: I've only asked two questions on this thread.

I asked why Warren thought the skin color of two speakers at CPAC was significant. And I asked you how you felt about Dan's implication that black people weren't smart enough to know what was good for them, but he did.

If those questions are too hot for you to handle, it's not my problem.

Posted by: scottd on February 13, 2011 06:07 PM
26. Rather than obsess too much with the sniveling of this discussion, check out Allen West responding to the question about his comfort among the leftist Black Congressional Caucus:

"One against forty-one? That's pretty good odds."

Posted by: Insufficiently Sensitive on February 13, 2011 06:25 PM
27. It will be a great day when the left finally stops exploiting physical traits for political gain. Until then, the left will judge everyone based on the color of their skin instead of the content of their character.

Posted by: Jeff B. on February 13, 2011 06:46 PM
28. scottd,

and I answered your first question. It is significant as a defense against the unsubstantiated "whites only party" smear and more pointedly the racist smear against conservatives. The fact that you did not make the claim does not negate the fact that the claim is made. That you then use it as a way to imply we are then racists for providing proof that we are not means you are simply tag-teaming in the game of "loaded question" fallacy.

So the questions to you are:
Do conservatives get smeared as racists?
Would racists actively support minorities in key positions based on their values rather than hue?
Are we allowed to point that fact out?

The answers should be: Yes, no, yes.

You seem to take exception to question number three. Please explain to my why it is NOT allowable for us to provide proof against our critics?

I have no part to play in your other question.

Posted by: eyago on February 13, 2011 07:37 PM
29. I'd trade a dozen Herrera's for one West... and a state senator to be named later.

Posted by: hinton on February 13, 2011 07:58 PM
30. WOW....headless lucy..back from the grave, or is it detention when they found out your posting site?
Col. West...I hope to be able to vote for him as POTUS. Is he black? Hadn't noticed.

Posted by: Susu on February 14, 2011 08:12 AM
31. So a couple of black men give their sanction to the GOP? Whew! It's like a divine grace, isn't it? Oh God, please show those liberals I'm not a racist! Please please please let a black man be a Republican!

Posted by: Tomas de Torquemada on February 14, 2011 08:16 AM
32. Reverting back a couple of posts to one by Pudge, Shouldn't headless and tommy be apologizing for all liberals for the protest about a week ago where their fellow libs were calling for the lynching of Justice Thomas?

Posted by: mike336 on February 14, 2011 08:34 AM
33. Tomas,

How amazingly funny your post is. Think about it a little. It might bring a smile to you like it did me.

Posted by: eyago on February 14, 2011 08:35 AM
34. Tommy if you had studied your history you would know the first black elected to Congress was a Republican.

Posted by: mike336 on February 14, 2011 08:55 AM
35. Tommy would also have known Martin Luther King was a Republican.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Was_Dr_Martin_Luther_King_a_registered_Republican

Posted by: mike336 on February 14, 2011 09:01 AM
36. Ah Lucy if you had studied your history you would have known a higher percentage of Republicans voted for the Civil Rights than Dems and that it was filibusted by Democrats (See Byrd, Sen, also KKK Kleagle) and still waiting for your apology for all libs for the call to lynch Justice Thomas( of course some just wanted to send him back to the plantation).
http://biggovernment.com/chartsock/2011/02/03/white-political-ralliers-call-for-lynching-of-black-justice-sorry-msm-no-tea-in-this-blend

Posted by: mike336 on February 14, 2011 09:30 AM
37. And Lucy the Dems just went from overt to covert racism. "Oh you poor minorities, you need a hand you can't succeed without our help, here have a check". That was about the time that the number of single parent homes skyrocketed sending minorities in a downward spiral of dependence.

Posted by: mike336 on February 14, 2011 09:35 AM
38. Lucy: Would you consider cutting home heating assistance for the underprivileged to be racist?

Posted by: mike336 on February 14, 2011 10:26 AM
39. headless lucy is a mind-numbed robot and robots are incapable of critical thinking.

Consider the source.

Posted by: KDS on February 14, 2011 11:17 AM
40. HL,

You realize you are basically guilty of the same claim that was used to criticize the authors of this book?

As far as your basic game, both sides can play it to no real gain. Unless someone specifically cited that book or made reference to it or its conclusions, you have no basis to use it as a "proof" of anything.

Now, my turn... Robert Byrd. GO!

Posted by: eyago on February 14, 2011 12:37 PM
41. "Listening to them gives one hope for America."

What, that only 94% of blacks will vote Democrat next time?

We need to start asking: why are blacks so liberal? Why do blacks vote Big Government and pro-redistribution-to-blacks EVERY time?

Allen West, Condoleeza Rice, JC Watts, Michael Steele, Colin Powell, and Clarence Thomas all in the same room won't change it.

Posted by: Tomas de Torquemada on February 14, 2011 01:39 PM
42. 44. You don't get out much do you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3ctO7fdrcc

This is exactly what liberals are all about. You identify with these people? Metaphorical indeed.

Posted by: Jack on February 14, 2011 01:52 PM
43. @50 - by the mere fact that you cited that book implies that you are a racist. You are a victim of your own political correctness aka cultural marxism.

It might have been accepted in 1984, but has been found to be irrelevant in most circles today.. Bad try !

Posted by: KDS on February 14, 2011 02:09 PM
44. HL,

No, no, no. You don't get it. Maybe you need to get a head or something.

Point 1: I am NOT saying "you side does it too." I am saying your very own process of perspective bias means you are ascribing to a population group attributes that are not proven by the evidence, just like that book did.

Point 2: The book was widely accepted when it first came out, not just by people with conservative opinions. Read your own link.

Point 3: Thomas Sowell, a conservative wrote a negative critique of the book's conclusion regarding race. Read your own link.

Point 4: The material in the book stands or falls on its own merits. Since I have not read the book, I am not in a position to condemn it or not. I bet no one else has, so you are just tossing out a red herring.

Point 5: I'll gladly condemn racism and racists, most people would. You have demonstrated nothing with your childish attempt.

Point 6: I already said that we could go all day playing games. That was my attempt to get YOU to stop playing them, but you did not seem to get it.

Here, try this one: Bill Ayers. GO!

Posted by: Eyago on February 14, 2011 02:34 PM
45. A pertinent op-ed from Powerline.com -


"Obama's game is transparent, isn't it? He is playing a game of chicken. He puts forward a series of proposals that he knows are more or less insane; but he also believes that Republicans will come to his rescue. They, not being wholly irresponsible, will come up with plans to reform entitlements--like, for example, the Ryan Roadmap. Ultimately, some combination of those plans will be implemented because the alternative is the collapse, not just of the government of the United States, but of the country itself. But Obama thinks the GOP's reforms will be unpopular, and he will be able to demagogue them, thus having his cake and eating it too. Is that leadership? Of course not. But it is the very essence of Barack Obama."

This is what we are contending with back in DC. The GOP needs to come up with a solid candidate - no one who ran in 2008 or Sarah Palin will fit that bill - IMO, but there are others - Mitch Daniel or Tim Pawlenty with a Rubio, Herman Cain or possibly Christie for Vice President. The American people will rightfully be cast as a laughing stock (in the words of Donald Trump) and a sorry lot if this all hat and no cattle community organizer and demagogue is elected again !!!

Posted by: KDS on February 14, 2011 07:28 PM
46. Liberal Website Calls Herman Cain "Black Garbage Pail Kid"

In one of the greatest showings of racism yet from the Left-wing media, the progressive website Alternet just published a piece calling Herman Cain and other conservative black Americans "black garbage pail kids," after Cain gave a speech over the weekend at the Conservative Political Action Conference. The article also refers to Cain as a "monkey in the window," a "white conservative master entertainer," and even insults his name by calling it ironic.

Oh, their tolerance...

Posted by: RagnarDanneskjold on February 15, 2011 10:09 AM
47. @56 - you have shown without a doubt that the liberal progressives are institutional racists by definition.

They play the race card with the agenda that the best defense is a good offense. Once the truth is revealed amidst their attempted obfuscation, there is no doubt that the racists are predominantly from the left.

Posted by: KDS on February 15, 2011 12:07 PM
48. Why Are More Black Babies Targeted for Abortion?

...on Friday, February 28 the National Black ProLife Coalition will be hosting a National Day of Mourning to call America's attention to this tragedy and its consequences. The leadership's web site explains,
We mourn the loss of every life lost, regardless of race, because of abortion. But we will not accept the status quo that endangers black children up to 3x more than the majority population. In New York City, more black children are aborted than are born alive! Fifty-three percent (53.2%) of all black pregnancies end in abortion. This is not freedom. This is genocidal oppression**.

So, will the noisy lefties, their MSM syncophants and their blog toadies be talking about this on Feb 28th?

**Emphasis mine

Posted by: RagnarDanneskjold on February 15, 2011 01:58 PM
49. And how is it the 'hateful', "racist", pro-life right cares more about black abortion genocide than the oh so tolerant 'we care' with words not actions lefties?

My, my, my another fact that doesn't fit the narrative - quite a conundrum for you lefties to ponder, eh?

Just like with Obama: pay attention to his ACTIONS and ignore his words.

Posted by: RagnarDanneskjold on February 15, 2011 02:02 PM
50. 56: And let's further add that said leftist hate racist website called Herman Cain "minstrel" and states "we always need a monkey in the window".

My, my, my. You knew the leftwing racism couldn't wait to come out and show itself. Shame!

I'll bet the trolls won't show their face on this thread anymore. They are running away....

Posted by: Michele on February 15, 2011 03:35 PM
51. I guess I just don't understand why its necessary to single out anyones color? Both D's & R's do it and it shows that race is too big of a factor when it comes to politics and life.

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