August 03, 2010
Larsen Puts His Desperation In Video Form

This video from WA-2 Democratic incumbent Rick Larsen is hilariously sad in its level of desperation and deception.

Larsen first implies, incredibly, that just because -- like hundreds of millions of Americans -- Republican challenger John Koster thinks favorably of the Tea Party movement, that therefore he is a racist whackjob.

I wonder if Rick Larsen told the people of the Tea Party events he attended that he thought they were all racist whackjobs. (Larsen right now has a link on his own web page to an article about the event he attended, where, apparently, Larsen didn't have the cajones to tell the attendees how he really felt about them. This reminds me of the time Larsen attacked Sarah Palin for using the word "target" in a political context, while linking to a Seattle Times article on his web site using the same language. You'd think he would be more careful about that sort of rookie mistake.)

Then Larsen -- who is the only candidate in the race who has received a campaign contribution from BP -- actually attacks Koster for doing what Obama did: saying we need more domestic oil drilling, shortly before the BP accident happened. It's a fair comment on Koster's views, but it's also something the head of his own party agreed with at the time, just a few months ago.

And then Larsen turns back to attacking the Tea Party as racist as a means to attack Koster, even going so far as to show a Confederate flag juxtaposed against "Koster's" parade entries: but that flag was one of many different flags that was part of a larger historical flags presentation, and in no way advocates that flag in particular. And despite what the video claimed, it wasn't even Koster's parade entry, it was the county GOP's.

The sad thing is that Larsen is ruining his own good name with his blatantly dishonest attacks. So many people have told me, "Rick Larsen's a good guy, I just disagree with his politics." Implying that Koster is racist just because a tiny minority of people in a nationwide movement are racist is the exact opposite of being a "good guy." It's being a damned liar.

But I guess Larsen has nothing else to say. He can't run on his own record of record debt and deficit; he can't attack Koster for things he has actually done or said in his long career; he can only attack Koster by dishonestly taking pictures out of context and implying he is guilty of crimes committed by people he's never met and has nothing to do with.

Cross-posted on <pudge/*>.

Posted by pudge at August 03, 2010 11:25 AM | Email This
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1. Oh and enjoy this quote:

"I asked Rogers what he did with the slavery passages of the New Testament. Did he take them literally? He paused, then said, 'Well, I believe slavery is a much maligned institution. If we had slavery today, we would not have this welfare mess.'"
-- The Struggle for the Soul of the SBC, by Walter Shurden, p. 36

Rogers wasn't even talking about American slavery, but about the servitude in the Bible, implying (as I read it) that instead of people going on welfare, they could voluntarily enter into servitude.

Not a great quote, arguably, but Larsen clearly totally misrepresents it, in his dishonest quest to paint Rogers, and therefore Koster, as a racist.

Posted by: pudge on August 3, 2010 11:33 AM
2. So Larsen is trying the desperate "If you don't agree with me you must be racist."

LOL!!! That's supposed to pass for serious argument? Rick, if that's true then most of America must be racist (in your world, at least), because they are more in agreement with the sentiments of the Tea Party (Taxed Enough Already, Obamacare stinks, etc) then they are with Obama!

Posted by: Michele on August 3, 2010 11:43 AM
3. Btw, Larsen is simply doing what the DNC leadership told its members to do for their main strategy this year---THROW MUD. It's really the only thing they concluded could work for them, seeing as they are lower than dirt in the polls this year. We're onto you, Rick. How about instead telling voters why you are so right and they are wrong to disagree with YOU? How about having some courage about your convictions and telling everyone why they aren't as smart as you were with your votes, instead of resorting to desperation and dodging the issues?

Posted by: Michele on August 3, 2010 11:48 AM
4. If the Tea Party people are looking for help from the Republicans, then they're doomed. The Republicans are NOT the Teabaggers friends. The progressives and other leftists look down on the Tea Party Movement, but the Republicans want to use teabaggers to promote more government and getting themselves re-elected, time and time again.

If the Tea Party Movement was paying attention, they would denounce the Republican Party and all its forms as a pox upon our nation, just as the leftists out there are a pestilence.

Posted by: Politically Incorrect on August 3, 2010 12:01 PM
5. Michelle - You are 100% correct!!!

Posted by: Tim on August 3, 2010 12:12 PM
6. I think the dems are playing right into the hands of the tea party with this kind of thing.

The Tea party people have proven themselves to be a group that fights back hard and wins, and polls show that generally the American public understands what the tea party is about and backs the central ideas of less government and less taxes.

The dems are playing with a snake here.

Posted by: johnny on August 3, 2010 12:16 PM
7. Funny how Larsen decided to disable comments on the YouTube site. I thought he was all about open debate and dissent being patriotic.

Speaking of which, Mike BoyScout, demokid, where are you guys at? Surely you must have someway to frame this video in a good light.

Posted by: Mark Griswold on August 3, 2010 12:57 PM
8. Speaking of desperation in video....

...how about the TV ad Adam Smith (WA-09) is running, where he identifies himself as "Independent"?

This appears (in text) in the lower right corner, towards the end of the ad.

In the Voters' Guide, his entry says "Prefers Democratic Party".

Posted by: ewaggin on August 3, 2010 01:37 PM
9. The Democrats are going to run ads like Larsen's all over the country between now and November. They'll plant their own people at Tea Parties carrying racist signs, Confederate flags, signs showing Obama as Hitler, etc. It's all they've got left now. They read the polls and are desperate.

I think this tactic will backfire on them. Americans are sick of being called racists. The more liberals demonstrate who they actually are the better for conservatives.

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on August 3, 2010 02:04 PM
10. PI: the Republicans want to use teabaggers to promote more government and getting themselves re-elected, time and time again.

You're posting is off-topic. We are talking about Republican John Koster, who has an undeniable and consistent record for promoting small government, so obviously you are talking about some other Republicans.

Hope that helps! Have a nice day!

Posted by: pudge on August 3, 2010 02:26 PM
11. Rick Larsen what's you point? I don't get it? You hate liberty by your vote on Death Care so buddy you must go.
This is so transparent...BTW "The Koster Stop Beating Your Wife" video should be just as funny! Did the guys at The Onion make this for you?

Posted by: Col. Hogan on August 3, 2010 02:28 PM
12. "Hundreds of millions of Americans" think favorably of the Tea Party? In your dreams, pudge.

Linking Koster to the Tea Party is smart politics for Larsen. He'll lose few if any votes doing so, but he might wake up a few wavering in the middle.

Posted by: scottd on August 3, 2010 02:55 PM
13. scottd: "Hundreds of millions of Americans" think favorably of the Tea Party? In your dreams, pudge.

There's over 300 million people in the country, and the Tea Party favorabilty ratings are consistently around a third of the population, usually more than that. That makes hundreds of millions.

Math is fun!


Linking Koster to the Tea Party is smart politics for Larsen. He'll lose few if any votes doing so, but he might wake up a few wavering in the middle.

That would be a reasonable analysis if the linking weren't so full of lies and deceit. That sort of thing tends to backfire, especially since voters, this year more than most, want Larsen to talk about why they should reelect HIM, the incumbent.

If Larsen had said, "John Koster, like the Tea Party, thinks the Democrats are socialists, that we should shrink the government, that we should have less regulation, that we should move backward instead of forward" then your analysis would be mostly accurate, because he wouldn't be offending anyone except the people he was describing, mostly accurately (within reason, fair comment, etc.).

And that works well because it makes people attribute their OWN negative feelings of the Tea Party to Koster.

But when he just flat-out lies and uses obviously dishonest implications, it turns off a lot of the people he is trying to sway to his side. It makes them think he doesn't give a damn about fixing our problems, and that he is only out to lie and do whatever it takes to hold onto his office.

And that may not be far off from the truth.

Posted by: pudge on August 3, 2010 03:27 PM
14. Larsen tells his constituents "I don't care what you think". He has telephone town-hall meetings, so he won't have to see us. Like all Democrats, he can't attack his opponents on the issues, so he resorts to name-calling. Koster has my vote.

Posted by: Carol on August 3, 2010 03:35 PM
15. This attack ad is right out of the Larsen playbook. Duck the major issues of the day, focus on social hot button issues and smear your opponent as an extremist. Larsen did this to John in 2000 and it worked.

Koster needs the money to counter these attacks with ads that are focused on the major issues of the day, such as a 13 trillion dollar debt, sky high unemployment and out of control government spending which is making the first problem worse and not improving the second. Send John some money today, because these ads will continue like clockwork for the next 91 days and if John doesn't get his message out (which takes money) people will believe these outragous attacks.

Posted by: etowncoug on August 3, 2010 03:51 PM
16. There's over 300 million people in the country, and the Tea Party favorabilty ratings are consistently around a third of the population, usually more than that. That makes hundreds of millions.

Math is fun!

But not for you. "hundreds of millions" would mean at least two hundred million, including infants and children. (How many infants and toddlers are included in those favorability polls?)

Double fail for you, pudge.


Posted by: scottd on August 3, 2010 03:59 PM
17. The sad thing is that here in the Puget Sound region, the mud throwing works. Too many people are in la-la land and are easily manipulated by the local media and Democrats. Way too easy, it's like taking candy from a baby.

Posted by: Doug Smith on August 3, 2010 04:35 PM
18. Bill how right you are as member of one of those Tea Party groups what Larsen doesn't get is that they will sniff these plants out and have them leave.

Posted by: laurie on August 3, 2010 06:15 PM
19. scottd: "hundreds of millions" would mean at least two hundred million

Incorrect. Correction Fail. It only means more than 1 million, which would include 1.00000001 million.

Nice try at nitpicking, but next time be actually correct.


Doug Smith: Too many people are in la-la land and are easily manipulated by the local media and Democrats.

Not this year. People are actually demanding answers from the Democrats, and instead are getting lies. They are fed up and Larsen knows it, which is why he is on the attack so early.

Posted by: pudge on August 3, 2010 07:40 PM
20. pudge: Your unwillingness to graciously concede even the smallest point is most amusing, especially when you try to redefine the English language to avoid admitting error. It says a lot about you.

Claiming that the phrase "hundreds of millions" means any quantity greater than a million, including 1.00000001 million ( 1,000,000.01 ) is priceless.

So I suppose "tens of thousands" means any quantity over 1000?

Triple fail!

Posted by: scottd on August 3, 2010 08:13 PM
21. scottd: you try to redefine the English language

Um. No, in fact, I am correct.


the phrase "hundreds of millions" means any quantity greater than a million

In my haste to dispense with your idiotic and incorrect complaints, I can see how you woulud make such an your error in interpretation. I was saying (poorly) that just as "millions" is "more than one million," "hundreds of millions" is "more than a hundred million."

That is how English works.

Seriously, do you work for Rick Larsen? You follow his pattern: say incorrect things, ignore context, hyperfocus on small things as though they matter, and then act like you've actually done something clever.

Posted by: pudge on August 3, 2010 09:28 PM
22. Here's an idea for Koster--since Larsen wants to be silly---Koster could play footage of the black panthers screaming out their virulent racist rants about they hate white "crackers" and telling black americans they need to "kill white babies". Then mention how the Obama administration coddles and de facto supports such hate-filled rhetoric with their actions down at the O justice department. and then point out that since Larsen is an Obama supporter he obviously wants black people to kill white babies. Yah, the Larsen way. I didn't say it was smart; it's just how Larsen seems to think things should be done, apparently.

How 'bout that, Rick?

Posted by: Michele on August 3, 2010 09:42 PM
23. pudge, you're embarrassing yourself.

In my haste to dispense with your idiotic and incorrect complaints...

... you made yourself look more like an idiot by saying (incorrectly) that "hundreds of millions" means anything more than a million.

Seriously, I was prepared to explain to you how plural vs. singular works, but what's the point? Your childish obstinance is clear to anyone who reads this.

And you still haven't explained how you claim to know the political preferences of children or whether they even have any.

hyperfocus on small things as though they matter

Ah...the irony of that! A conversation with you is almost the definition of battling over triviality -- in this case, the plain meaning of common phrases.

Posted by: scottd on August 3, 2010 10:42 PM
24. Michele@22 -- that's a great idea! Please, please try to convince Koster and other Republicans to put ads like that together.

But watch out for laurie and Bill -- they probably think you're a "plant".

Posted by: scottd on August 3, 2010 10:49 PM
25. Hundreds includes anything between 100 and 999. It means the hundreds place is now being used. It doesn't mean at least 200.

Posted by: Matt M on August 3, 2010 10:52 PM
26. #24: lol, scottd, this kind of idea could very probably land me a job at Larsen campaign headquarters because it's so much better than his lame ad (if you go for that sort of thing, that is). Don't bother, Rick--you can't afford me!

Oh---here's another one for Koster: Obama nominates a virulent military-hater for, of all things, Supreme Court. Larsen supports Obama. Therefore, Rick Larsen hates the military! Think of the possibilities with communist Van Jones and all the other radical leftwing revolutionaries Obama surrounds himself with....

Posted by: Michele on August 3, 2010 11:55 PM
27. You've got to admit that there are plenty of Tea Party people who have walked way over the nutty line. It is pretty amazing for Koster to align so stridently with the Tea Party and expect to carry the banner of the GOP.

Publicity related to this cheap video is just what the Larsen camp wants - they want voters to know that Koster is the Tea Party candidate. That ought to be enough to make this a safe seat for the Democrats.

Posted by: Redflag on August 4, 2010 05:50 AM
28. Michele: Koster could play footage of the black panthers screaming out their virulent racist rants about they hate white "crackers" and telling black americans they need to "kill white babies". Then mention how the Obama administration coddles and de facto supports such hate-filled rhetoric with their actions down at the O justice department.

No, too much. Koster can just say "Rick Larsen is a Democrat says he likes Democrats ... like THESE Democrats?" and then show the New Black Panthers, who are Democrats.

Done. That is exactly what Larsen did here.

Posted by: pudge on August 4, 2010 07:12 AM
29. scottd: Seriously, I was prepared to explain to you how plural vs. singular works, but ...

You don't know, because I was correct, and you still seem to have a problem with it.


Your childish obstinance is clear to anyone who reads this.

Says the guy who is trying to change the topic away from Rick Larsen desperately lying about John Koster.


Redflag: You've got to admit that there are plenty of Tea Party people who have walked way over the nutty line.

A small few who attract all the cameras, yes. Just like there are "plenty" of Democrats who have done so.


It is pretty amazing for Koster to align so stridently with the Tea Party and expect to carry the banner of the GOP.

Why? Koster has been an amazingly well-loved Republican legislator around here for 16 years. He was recruited by Republicans from all over the spectrum, from Mainstreamers to Ron Paul's national campaign manager. Koster is a Republican as much as anyone around here is a Republican. Why would saying good things about a group that is devoted to the same principles as Republicans be a problem for him?


Publicity related to this cheap video is just what the Larsen camp wants

No, they really don't, because they are being exposed as liars, which is far worse than being affiliated with the Tea Party.


they want voters to know that Koster is the Tea Party candidate. That ought to be enough to make this a safe seat for the Democrats.

Heh. You obviously know nothing about the Second District.

Posted by: pudge on August 4, 2010 07:18 AM
30. All I want to know is when the BP British Petroleum commercial with Rick Larsen taking their check is going to run???? BP paid him to turn his back on America

Posted by: mike on August 4, 2010 08:17 AM
31. john koster is an idiot! from his early days as a fear-monger( black helocopters), supporting radical right unfunded mandates,and lying through his teeth to trying to blame our current economics state on rick larsen, his is a real slick, not smart repuke. i can remember him leasing put the family farm for years and not even living on the property! now he is trying to say he has all the answers! he's a human folly!

Posted by: randy gray on August 10, 2010 09:25 AM
32. randy gray: from his early days as a fear-monger( black helocopters)

Such as?


supporting radical right unfunded mandates

Such as?


and lying through his teeth to trying to blame our current economics state on rick larsen

Oh please. Facts clearly do NOT have a liberal bias: Rick Larsen has voted for TRILLIONS in new spending that have been added to the debt. It's utterly ludicrous to say he is NOT responsible.


his is a real slick, not smart repuke

He's a lot smarter than you. Shrug.


i can remember him leasing put the family farm for years and not even living on the property!

Even if true, so ... ? Is leasing your property to someone else a crime? Next you'll tell me that he bought a bottle milk after filling up his truck's tank with unleaded gas! And then he kissed his wife and read a newspaper!


now he is trying to say he has all the answers!

Nope, he never said that.


he's a human folly!

You've only made yourself look foolish.

Posted by: pudge on August 10, 2010 09:46 AM
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