Today is Everybody Draw Mohammed Day.
It was the idea of Seattle cartoonist Molly Norris. After Comedy Central cut a portion of a South Park episode following a death threat from a radical Muslim group, Norris wanted to counter the fear. She wanted to spread the threat. She has declared May 20th "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day." My Northwest
Molly Norris's cartoon at The Stranger.
Is the threat real?
From three days ago: Lars Vilks, the Swedish cartoonist who drew the cartoon that was used in the fabricated outrage in Denmark is in hiding after constant death threats. He says there was an arson attempt against his home in Nyhamnslage, Sweden. Yahoo News via Hot Air
Posted by Ron Hebron at May 20, 2010 07:11 AM | Email ThisIslam is too thin skinned. Especially for a religion that has such a large wing of outrageous violence.
The ridicule is well deserved.
Posted by: Jeff B. on May 20, 2010 07:33 AMhttp://thurstonpundits.blogspot.com/2010/05/everybody-draw-mo-day.html
Posted by: Andy on May 20, 2010 08:24 AM
@ 5 but,but,but...it's a religion of peace remember, Duffman? What are you implying will happen?
Posted by: Rick D. on May 20, 2010 08:54 AMThirty years from now when we are fighting the great Jihadists they will be discussing a truce and someone will ask how World War III started, and someone will explain, it all started in the funny pages.
Posted by: Doug on May 20, 2010 08:57 AMRight...Duffman! We must all acquiesce to the sensibilities and threats from the Islamists. We must give up our Freedom of Speech and Liberties and bow down to the Intruders of this Judeo-Christian Nation. Yes, we must give way to the invading Barbarians and let them take what is ours. We must never stand and defend but, to run and hide and let them enslave us. We must think and do as Liberals would do. Fortunately, we are not all Liberals like you Duffman. What a Dolt!
Posted by: Daniel on May 20, 2010 09:00 AMAnyone who is a devout follower of any religion would not be deterred simply by the criticisms and mocking of their religion.
And Islam will get more respect when its high clerics go out of their way to denounce terrorism, jihad, and to stop preaching hatred from the pulpit. As it is now, in mosques throughout the world it is tacitly or overtly condoned.
I'm not surrendering a right that my forefathers faught and died protecting cuz these a##holes are "offended."
If we are setting the precedent that murder and terrorism is an acceptable response to being "offended"- let's get EVERYONE on the same page, because it's clear we are not.
Posted by: Andy on May 20, 2010 09:50 AMThose brave men only lampoon religion when they attack christianity otherwise they cower in their PC holes.
They collectively don't have the cajones to piss off the jihadis (like certain danish and swedish cartoonists).
Brave libs.
Posted by: Attila on May 20, 2010 09:51 AMI don't care if muslims are offended. I would suggest that the lady cartoonist in Seattle become acquainted with her Second Amendment rights, and not to so easily give up her rights under the first.
Posted by: Kato on May 20, 2010 10:01 AMAddress your drivel to the throat slitters who consider good home training to put a death threat on anyone's life who offends them.
I consider good home training as- NOT - threatening the lives of people who offend me. That is where the bar is being set. When EVERYONE abides by that, let's revisit this discussion about home training. I'll request honor killings and execution of homos to be part of that discussion.
Posted by: Andy on May 20, 2010 10:03 AMIf Catholics threatened to kill people for drawing the Pope, I'd be in favor of drawing the Pope.
Shrug.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Best_Friends
Posted by: Kato on May 20, 2010 10:11 AMthe reason that they don't want him drawn is because they don't want an image of Mohammed to become an idol in place of Allah.
Obviously in becoming legalistic about these rules they have, in a sense, created the perception that he is an idol anyway, but that is not the original intention.
For those of you who want to be antagonistic about this... well, I guess you've accomplished your goal.
(No, I'm not Muslim, I'm Christian)
Posted by: Andrew Brown on May 20, 2010 10:14 AMThe muslims threaten to murder us, and WE are the ones being antagonistic?
Wake up, man!
It's time to stop all this PC nonsense. Either we believe in liberty or we don't. Stand up and fight before it's gone.
Posted by: Kato on May 20, 2010 10:21 AMI'm not kidding around, Duff.
They are deathly serious. So am I.
Their religion demands we convert, appease or die. I don't - and never will - accept any of those demands, and they need to know that straight up.
This is a non-violent action to show we will not be cowered into submission. If they want to raise the stakes over a bunch of cartoons, they'd better pack a lunch and bring a lot of friends.
Posted by: jimg on May 20, 2010 10:27 AMThat's exactly the problem.
Posted by: Gary on May 20, 2010 10:51 AMNot all Muslims threatened to murder you, a few idiots did. But congratulations, now you're doing what atheists do to us Christians, to all Muslims, all because a few of them are idiots.
It's like watching an adolescent brother and sister go back and forth, except one has all the most badass military technology in the world and the other has a semtex vest, and no parents are around to stop them from using them on each other.
Posted by: Andrew Brown on May 20, 2010 10:54 AMIf the moderate Muslims are offended, they could use their home training (throat slitting) on the few idiots offending the rest of the world with death threats, then the rest of the world would not see a need assert their right to free speech.
Don't you find it odd that there is no one on their side of the fence apologizing or whining about their manners? Everyone in Shashank prison was innocent, they are all victims of the rest of the world who were prior to these death threats were minding their own business.
Posted by: Andy on May 20, 2010 11:04 AMlol @ you. Enough said.
Posted by: Andrew Brown on May 20, 2010 11:10 AMAs for antagnostic, I'd say chasing down and stabbing someone to death in the street is a pretty extreme overreaction to a cartoon or critique of this "religion of peace", Don't you?
Posted by: Rick D. on May 20, 2010 11:26 AMPsuedo-intellectual fools like you are what's wrong with this county. You are so 'open-minded' that all of your common sense has fallen out.
Posted by: Kato on May 20, 2010 11:26 AMWhen people in the name of "my religion" start flying airplanes into buildings, performing honor killings, and threaten to kill others who are exercising their rights to free speech, let's have that conversation.
I don't believe in killing abortion doctors, but who am I to impose my beliefs on anyone else?
Posted by: Andy on May 20, 2010 11:36 AMThere is no organized or sanctioned member of any Christian church actively campaigning or sanctioning pedophiles or violence. And if there was, they'd be out on their asses in a quick minute.
But, it's quite common in Islam for clerics to pronounce fatwas on us "Infidels," and to regularly preach hatred and violence in mosques, even in Western cities like London. And those clerics are not called out, reprimanded, or expunged by any level of leadership within Islam.
If Islam wants to be taken seriously, they can clean up the organized pronouncements of violence, misogyny, hatred toward gays, etc. within their religion. Until then, they can expect a lot of ridicule from the rest of the world as a bare minimum of consequence.
Like Muhammad, whom according to all known historical data took a 9 year old wife. Draw from that fact what you will, and I mean that quite literally.
Posted by: Rick D. on May 20, 2010 12:26 PMDo you really believe you are responsible for the actions of all the other members of your religion such that you need to apologize for them?
I thought we respected personal responsibility on here.
Posted by: Andrew Brown on May 20, 2010 12:26 PMBy force and coercion is the way most of Islam is spread and retained amongst the conquered. Plus, as you know, if any Muslim converts to Christianity, there is a death sentence upon him. Such a Deal!
Posted by: Daniel on May 20, 2010 12:48 PMNo, I don't feel responsible for the acts of my fellow Catholics or other Christians.
However, if the Pope had issued the equivalent of a fatwa calling for the murder of the 'piss Chist' so-called artist, I would have been first in line to condemn such a thing.
This is an issue where we should all be in agreement. Our acquiescence to muslim demands is perceived by them not at tolerance, but as weakness. We are only inviting more threats with our lack of moral clarity on this matter.
Posted by: Kato on May 20, 2010 12:51 PMThey have radical clerics and they have much more moderate clerics, and you've completely ignored the condemnations that they have offered up as well.
examples can be found here: http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php
Just unbelievable.
Posted by: Andrew Brown on May 20, 2010 12:57 PMThis happens when Muslims leave Mosques after sermons they hear.
Posted by: Gary on May 20, 2010 01:04 PMI hope you don't think that by being nice to muslims that they won't also saw off your head.
You can ask Daniel Pearl about that one. He went to Pakistan to seek out al Qaeda to get their side of the story. Come to think of it, you can't ask Daniel Pearl about that one because they SAWED OFF HIS HEAD.
Posted by: Kato on May 20, 2010 01:33 PMDid you want to respond to the link I left, where other Muslims have spoken out against terrorism, or continue to just act as though these people - many of whom live among us and work with us in our daily lives - are a bunch of barbaric savages who all cut off peoples heads?
There are 1.5 BILLION Muslims in the world; many don't like us - and for good reason in at least some of those cases - but if you are making the assertion that there are 1.5 billion Muslims who would cut off your head if you anger them, then that would be pretty dumb in my opinion, and you can take THAT as condescension. However, I don't think even the folks on sound politics would make such a blanket statement.
Regardless, just like their anger over the drawings is unnecessary legalism in their religion, and childish, drawing them to piss them off is just as childish. That's really my only point here.
Posted by: Andrew Brown on May 20, 2010 02:28 PMMaybe you do; I've met a few people who didn't realize that Muslims worship the same God as Christians, just they don't believe that Jesus died for our sins, and the rest of the Christian salvation story.
They still show more respect for Jesus than most Americans do, though - they won't even mention Him without saying 'peace be upon him'.
Posted by: Andrew Brown on May 20, 2010 02:32 PMThe irony here is that the so-called enlightened "progressives" make excuses for a religion and its followers that are stuck in the 7th century.
Posted by: Rick D. on May 20, 2010 02:39 PMAs for muslims having respect for Christ it is unfortunate that such respect apparently does not extend to His followers. Most Christians have been either murdered in or driven out of most muslim controlled lands. To the extent that they haven't, they are forced to accept second class (at best) status.
Anyhow, these are the last people we should be allowing to tell us what we can watch, write, draw or say. That's my point here.
Posted by: Kato on May 20, 2010 03:10 PMI agree it's time to bring the clueless into the 21st Century.
Radical Islam is a cult of cavemen with AK-47's and the same violent goals as their warlord founder.
Liberal Progressives are mentally and emotionally unstable, as is every socialist who has sought 'to get it right, this time'.
and ...
Evangelical Conservatives have their heads up their butts if they think what's going on in the Tea Party is an endorsment of their thinking.
There, have I offended everyone now?
Pissing off the children of the corn types with a cartoon is kind of amusing to watch though and if need be, I will use my Second Amendment Rights to insure your First Amendment Rights to Draw Mohammed any time you all feel the need.
Posted by: James on May 20, 2010 03:43 PMEvery conservative has had the experience of attempting to discuss politics with liberals. They go nuts. They scream at you. If you are at a tea party event they flip you off from the safety of their cars.
Tell them you watch Fox and they get instantly hacked off. Lots of peace, love and tolerance.
Woody Allen wants Obama to be a "dictator" for a few years.
Watch how the left really acts and it entirely reveals who they actually are. They are not different from Marx, Mao, Lenin, Che, and Castro.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on May 20, 2010 05:33 PMWestern liberalism is enabling islamic religious fanatacism in a similar fashion to the way the policy of appeasement enabled totalitarian dictators in the 1930s. There appears to be a wilfull disbelief from liberals in response to the violent statements and deadly violent actions coming from islamic extremist individuals, groups and governments despite lots of evidence (and a growing body count) indicating they mean exactly what they say.
Whether they murder the likes of Theo Van Gogh on a street in Holland, set fire to a swedes house due to a cartoon or threaten an entire nation (israel) with nuclear annihlation....they are deadly serious. Pretending otherwise is stupid.
Posted by: Attila on May 20, 2010 05:47 PMOur founding fathers were serious too. That's why they wrote the second amendment.
Posted by: Andy on May 20, 2010 05:52 PM@68: Hardly. Conservatives and hardcore Islamists are both quite alike in that they both would prefer the Stone Age to present day.
@69: No, militant right-wing Islamists suppress women. And in terms of "cowards on the left" speaking out... plenty DO. It's just that conservatives are too dim to realize that not all Muslims believe the same things.
Posted by: demo kid on May 20, 2010 06:40 PMI bet you cannot.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on May 20, 2010 07:09 PM"Islamists have called for the murder of Salman Rushdie, and have attempted to assassinate him, for his "blasphemous" depiction of Mohammed in his novel The Satanic Verses . . . Islamists slit the throat of Theo van Gogh and stuck a knife in his chest for directing the film Submission, which depicted Islamic violence against women . . . Islamists have threatened to murder Ayaan Hirsi Ali for writing the script and doing the voiceover for Submission . . . Islamists have attempted to assassinate Kurt Westergaard for drawing cartoons of Mohammed . . . Islamists have attempted to assassinate Geert Wilders for producing the film Fitna, which showed that the Koran calls for violence against infidels . . . Islamists have threatened to murder Matt Stone and Trey Parker for depicting Mohammed dressed as a bear in a South Park cartoon . . .
When will this end? Certainly not before those of us who recognize the vital nature of the freedom of speech speak up against such evil.
When and to the extent that individuals are forbidden to express their views, whether by force or threat thereof, they are unable to function in a manner fully conducive to human life; they are unable to act fully on their basic means of living, the judgment of their mind; thus, they are unable to live fully as human beings. They might not be murdered (as van Gogh was). They might not have to go into hiding or have 24/7 security (as Rushdie, Ali, Wilders, and others have had to do). But, to the extent that individuals are forbidden to express their views, their lives are throttled (as Stone and Parker's have been).
Recognition of this fact is what gives rise to the moral right to freedom of speech: the truth that people morally must be left free to express their views regardless of what others think or feel about those views. This right is not an opinion, nor a gift from "God," nor a permission from government; it is the recognition of an immutable fact--the fact that a fully human life requires the freedom of expression.
Freedom of speech is also the last leg of civilized society. If we lose it, our only means of returning to a state in which we can live as human beings is to take up arms against those who have forbidden us to speak.
For these reasons, The Objective Standard is participating in "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day." Below are forty-four drawings of Mohammed with the respective artist's name under each.
We will not be silenced. Ever."
http://www.theobjectivestandard.com/mohammed-drawings.asp
If ever there was a "people of faith" it's the leftists and their willing devotion to Obama and another trillion or ten of debt as a means to salvation and economic success.
Posted by: Jeff B. on May 20, 2010 08:49 PMhttp://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/HairyBuddah/MohammedBuddah.jpg
Hairy
Posted by: Hairy Buddah on May 20, 2010 08:50 PMDon't you dare offend the moslems though, you have no right to draw a cartoon - evil conservative neanderthals. It's okay to offend middle america though because I'm more sophisticated and intellectual than them.
Twisted liberal illogic.
Posted by: dan on May 21, 2010 07:52 AM* Calling for pre-emptive nuclear strikes on people of a given religion whether they have harmed you or not
* Generalization of all Muslims as savages that want to cut my head off (which is an outright LIE, like you guys accuse liberals of doing, since I have many Muslim friends who get along with me just fine, as a devout Christian of the Mars Hill variety)
* Complete misunderstanding of the tenets of Islam (I guess it's easier to call them "liberals" if you make sure you never read a single word of their beliefs... ... ... LOL HAHAHA)
* Extreme irony displayed by one gentleman who points out that if you attempt to discuss politics with liberals, they will scream at you, call names, etc - while completely ignoring that all that has been said in this thread is "lolol you're a liberal so you're a liar and a muslim terrist lover"
I'm a libertarian/conservative mix, but I'm not giving idiots like some of you a free pass just because you take that label on too. Think for yourself and back it up with facts - for starters, try making a post without calling someone a liberal as your primary point - and we'll talk.
Posted by: Andrew Brown on May 21, 2010 09:59 AMFalse. Muslims do not worship the same God as Christians and Jews but deny Him by substituting a counterfeit Bible (koran) that does not honor the true God (our Creator), or His Son, Jesus Christ. Allah is a false god, dreamed up by Muslims.
And comparing any grudging and minor "respect" Muslims show for Jesus Christ to straw man "Americans" is a fool's errand. Muslims have also created their own false "messiah", the pedophile butcher Mohammed, to replace Jesus Christ's rightful place on the thrown of Heaven.
There can only be one truth. Read your Bible to find it.
Posted by: Saltherring on May 22, 2010 06:31 AMThe silence is deafening.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on May 22, 2010 02:52 PMAllah is the word for God in their language, referring to the same living God that Christians and Jews worship.
The God of Abraham, the one that told Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac - you know, the guy that became the father of the Jews, and Ishmael, the guy that became the father of what is now Islam.
Noob.
Posted by: Andrew Brown on May 22, 2010 10:22 PMBottom Line: He misused God's name in forming his religion of Islam. God has given a warning that he reserves special punishment to those who misuse his name. Woe to Mohammed.
Posted by: Daniel on May 23, 2010 01:03 AMYou are correct. Satan uses many devices to deceive and lead people away from the true God, most often through some form of counterfeit religion. Satan tries to convince them that there is more than one way to the true God.
God's Word says otherwise:
Jesus says, "I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father, except through me." John 14:6
Yes, Daniel, Woe to Mohammed. And woe to all who choose to believe the lies of a counterfeit religion.
Posted by: Saltherring on May 23, 2010 07:14 AM