CNN Opinion Research found that 75% - 75 per cent - of adults surveyed don't support Obama's health-care takeover bill.
Pass similar bill- 25%(Ask CNN why the total is more than 100%.)
Start work on new bill - 48%
Stop working on health care - 25%
Other (vol.) - 2%
No opinion - 1%
Feb. 12-15 2010
President Obama says to let Congress know. Let them know that you oppose his bill. Call Congress today.
And join Liberty Belle's Seattle Sons and Daughters of Liberty.
To remind yourself of the total control they are trying to force on you and your family, look at just one of many onerous features your senators approved last Christmas eve. If you don't pay your health care fees there are penalties. If you don't pay the penalties they aim the big guns at you and fire:
[page 78] ''(D) UNPAID PENALTY FEES.--Any amount of a penalty fee assessed against a health plan under this subsection for which payment has not been made by the due date provided under sub- paragraph (C) shall be--BTW: The bill with the changes Obama promised - claiming to use ideas from the Republicans - does not exist. Posted by Ron Hebron at March 09, 2010 08:27 AM | Email This
''(i) increased by the interest accrued on such amount, as determined pursuant to the underpayment rate established under section 6621 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986; and
''(ii) treated as a past-due, legally en- forceable debt owed to a Federal agency for purposes of section 6402(d) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986.
The Democrat-controlled Congress of Pelosi and Reid right now has an approval rating around 18%. Meaning that a 25% approval of health care is stellar in their eyes!
Posted by: Shanghai Dan on March 9, 2010 09:01 AMLiberal response:
"But... but look! There were doctors standing behind Obama! I could tell because they wore white coats!"
Posted by: Gary on March 9, 2010 10:37 AM"But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy."
Liberals, please. You cannot possibly want this.
The sad fact is the Democrats are 100% the party of big business and big money; the facts are so inconvenient. Democrats are owned lock, stock, and barrel by big business, big labor, and big banking. They don't care about the little guy, other than extracting everything they can from him to keep their own power and income high.
Posted by: Shanghai Dan on March 9, 2010 11:42 AMOh, nevermind, we know exactly why you lie.
Posted by: Ann Rand on March 9, 2010 11:47 AMhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130.html
NO doubt Huffington Post & Daily Kos have polls showing +20 support for ObamaCare.
Posted by: Crusader on March 9, 2010 11:55 AMIf Obama doesn't give socialized medicine to us, Romney will!
Posted by: Grant on March 9, 2010 12:11 PMStrong point buddy. Between you, Obama, and Jimmy Carter, it's a tough question of who makes a better case for rejecting liberalism/socialism and returning to conservative values.
I am sooooo glad John McCain did not win the election.
Posted by: Andy on March 9, 2010 12:50 PMStrong point buddy. Between you, Obama, and Jimmy Carter, it's a tough question of who makes a better case for rejecting liberalism/socialism and returning to conservative values.
I am sooooo glad John McCain did not win the election.
Posted by: Andy on March 9, 2010 12:52 PMwww.hannity.com has a list of undecided (to varying degrees) US representatives to contact and tell them to not vote for comprehensive health care "reform".
Posted by: ajday on March 9, 2010 01:38 PMFree yourself! You're a smart guy.
Posted by: Gary on March 9, 2010 02:45 PMPlus, a majority still supports the inclusion of a public option. And this one ought to rile you corporate libertarians, those who support REQUIRING mid-size and large employers to provide health insurance outnumber opponents nearly 3-to-1!
So, if you guys want Congress to govern by polls, what say we do all those things the people are demanding!
Posted by: LaborGoon on March 9, 2010 03:03 PM
President:
"If we've got a panel of experts -- health experts, doctors -- who can provide guidelines to doctors and patients about what procedures work best in what situation, and find ways to reduce, for example, the number of tests that people take, these aren't going to be forced on people, but they will help guide how the delivery system works, so that you are getting higher quality care,"
Obama, speaking of an old person who received a pacemaker:
"Maybe you're better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller."
Really? How? Can you answer that, Bruce?
Allow me to demystify. Imagine a bill granting every American a free federally delivered ice cream every Sunday morning. Provision 2: steak on Monday, also home-delivered. Provision 3: A dozen red roses every Tuesday. You get the idea. Would each individual provision be popular in the polls? Of course.
However (life is a vale of howevers), suppose these provisions were bundled into a bill that also spelled out how the goodies are to be paid for and managed -- say, half a trillion dollars in new taxes, half a trillion in Medicare cuts (not to keep Medicare solvent but to pay for the ice cream, steak and flowers), 118 new boards and commissions to administer the bounty-giving, and government regulation dictating, for example, how your steak was to be cooked. How do you think this would poll?
Perhaps something like 3-1 against, which is what the latest CNN poll shows is the citizenry's feeling about the current Democratic health care bills.
http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_14521073?nclick_check=1
Nonetheless, there is a bit of truth to your point. I personally believe -- though Obama has not said this, and he like most politicians is afraid to -- that eventually we need to consider cost/benefit in our medical insurance. As medical science advances, I don't think society will be able to afford to guarantee every possible medical intervention to everyone. Of course individuals should always be free to pay for anything, or to obtain private insurance for anything. We live in a free society, and I love that.
But, and this is a big but, this has nothing to do with extending health insurance to the non-elderly. I can't see how conservatives can object to government-guaranteed medical care for all but then complain if government doesn't guarantee every possible type of care, no matter how cost-ineffective, for some. But I don't think conservatives are really that stupid; rather, they are just playing cynical politics with Medicare, a program they desperately tried to prevent Democrats from instituting in the first place.
Posted by: Bruce on March 9, 2010 07:03 PMSounds like a death panel to me. Tell me at which age you should be denied a pacemaker in favor of a painkiller which has nothing to do with an irregular heartbeat? 50? 70?
Posted by: Gary on March 9, 2010 07:28 PMI can't see how conservatives can object to government-guaranteed medical care for all but then complain if government doesn't guarantee every possible type of care, no matter how cost-ineffective, for some.
Because you're not conservative, you see things through liberal-tinted glasses. The conservative would look at the idea of nationalized healthcare and ask: where in the Constitution is it authorized?
Medicare is a long-term insurance plan, you pay for it for decades before collecting. If you don't pay into Medicare, you receive no benefits. How would Government-guaranteed medical care for all be the same? You don't pay in, but you get care?
Posted by: Shanghai Dan on March 9, 2010 07:31 PMSince you were the first one who decided to bring up Sarah Palin's name in this thread (which has nothing to do with the subject at hand), it would appear that you're exactly the "ANYone" that you mock, Duffman. Apparently you're spending more time on infantile hate sites like Daily KOS and David Goldstain's backwater blog these days- it's contagious.
Obamacare is DOA. The American people have spoken, but that matters little to the empty suit with a tin ear currently occupying 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. I never thought I'd see a worse president in my lifetime than Jimmy Carter, but Obama is making grand strides in eclipsing even that record 4 years of incompetence. Romney will be the only one experienced enought to clean up the mess this guy is sure to leave this country by 2012.
Posted by: Rick D. on March 9, 2010 09:13 PMIn case this thing passes unconstitutionally and against Congressional rules, which it could, the GOP had better formulate a plan by which to repeal major portions of Comprehensive Health Insurance Reform. If they don't, they won't be worth their weight in salt. Tea Party goers will be owed a lot of gratitude if Obama-losi care fails. Call or email your House Representative.
Posted by: KDS on March 9, 2010 09:35 PMSo much for that. He's campaigning daily for this bill that nobody wants. He's kinda nuts. Next up... cap-and-trade to cause even more job loss.
Posted by: Gary on March 10, 2010 08:05 AMSen. Dick Durbin, March 10, 2010: "Anyone who would stand before you and say 'well, if you pass health care reform next year's health care premiums are going down,' I don't think is telling the truth. I think it is likely they would go up."
Gosh, maybe Nancy's right. Maybe we have to pass it so that we can find out what's in it.
Idiocy...
Posted by: Gary on March 10, 2010 08:54 AMWhat's not obvious to the Left though, is that we can all see the kinds of people that self admit to our emergency rooms, wasting our healthcare resources. They are obese, smokers, etc. and in general don't take their own health seriously. That's why Obamacare is polling so low. Most Americans don't want to pay healthcare for their slovenly neighbors. And they know, that once there is a free government element, there will be even less incentive for unhealthy people to take care of themselves.
When I see a guy taking up two seats on the plane, you're damn right I think he should pay for both. And that's why Obamacare will never pass.
Posted by: Jeff B. on March 10, 2010 09:56 AMBrilliant!
Can the voters just kick her out now?
Posted by: Michele on March 10, 2010 01:53 PMBecause...it's all partisan. Rs do it. Ds do it.
It stinks all the time.
Posted by: Don't get it on March 10, 2010 05:22 PM-
$118 billion? We had a deficit in Feb alone that was $220 billion. So, we're going to save over 10 years what it took us two weeks to spend just last month?
Poeple... please.
Posted by: Gary on March 11, 2010 09:08 AM"I don't need to see my colleagues vote for the Senate bill in the House. We don't like the Senate bill. Why should we be forced to do that?"
Liberals, come on... don't surrender the Republic over this.
Posted by: Gary on March 11, 2010 11:31 AMWhy not just make him a dictator and be done with it?
Posted by: Gary on March 11, 2010 11:35 AM