February 23, 2010
EYMAN TO GREGOIRE: throw some crumbs to the peasants: veto the repeal of I-960's advisory vote on tax increases, 2 pages in voters pamphlet with legislators tax votes and costs

Tuesday, February 23, 2010, 10:18 am

To: Governor Chris Gregoire

From: Tim Eyman

90% of Initiative 960 is/was the 2/3's vote requirement for tax increases - that was the big enchilada. You're going to sign the Democrats' bill (ESSB 6130) on Wednesday morning that suspends that requirement for this session and next session.

That really infuriates a lot of people.

But I-960 also addresses a very real problem in Olympia -- everything's an emergency. The emergency clause makes bills 'referendum proof' and so emergency clauses are going to be slapped on every tax increase bill you sign this session. The people's constitutionally guaranteed right to referendum will be taken away on every one of them.

I-960 anticipated this unfair situation and proposed a modest remedy: rather than stopping the indiscriminate overuse of the emergency clause, let's take one specific type of bill -- any tax increase -- and say that whenever the people's right to referendum is taken away by an emergency clause, at least let's give the voters a chance to express their opinion on it (with a non-binding advisory vote) and let's give the voters 2 pages in the voters pamphlet listing legislators' tax votes, their contact information, and the 10-year cost of the tax hikes.

In other words, I-960 provided transparency and a voice for the people.

Chris, you will take away the 2/3's vote requirement tomorrow morning (I'll see you there) but throw some crumbs to the peasants: veto the repeal of I-960's advisory vote on tax increases and the 2 pages in voters pamphlet with legislators tax votes and costs.

It's the very least you can do.

Tomorrow's Seattle Times editorial asks you to do the same thing.

Posted by Tim Eyman at February 23, 2010 04:56 PM | Email This
Comments
1. "Tuesday, February 18, 2010, 10:18 am"?

Actually, today is Tuesday, February 23, 2010 ...

(message from Eyman: it's been corrected - that's, Richard)

In any event, that is a reasonable proposal. Wonder whether the Governor has the guts to follow you advice?

Posted by: Richard Pope on February 23, 2010 06:06 PM
2. Oh Joy. The state Senate want to increase the budget by 1.4 billion. The house wants to increase it by 1.5 billion.
http://www.libertylive.org/blog_main/post.php?post_id=1939

Posted by: mike336 on February 23, 2010 07:52 PM
3. "and the 10-year cost of the tax hikes."

How about we require all tax cut or tax limitiatives be required to name which programs and budgets will lose that funding?

Fair is fair, Tim.

Posted by: Joe Szilagyi on February 24, 2010 10:12 AM
4. Sorry Tim, but majority rules ..just like our founding fathers wanted.

Requiring a supermajority means that nothing ever gets done..which is just how you anti-government fanatics like it.

Of course, the minority party in power (the GOP) LOVES the supermajority idea. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way.

Posted by: Proteus on February 24, 2010 10:25 AM
5. If the majority rules, then they'd keep I-960 because the majority of voters have approved its policies 3 times. No, this is politicians siding with the minority who voted against I-960.

Voters are justifiably outraged by the Democrats' arrogance.

Posted by: Tim Eyman on February 24, 2010 10:43 AM
6. Tim, the law is designed for this to happen.

It's hard-coded into the initiative/referendum system as a check and balance.

Get more Republicans elected or file an initiative to change the system.

You played a few winning hands, and now the other side has done the same. You lost this round.

Posted by: Joe Szilagyi on February 24, 2010 11:00 AM
7. Hey Proteus,

We're "anti-government fanatics" like Proteus on a diet is an "anti-food fanatic."

Joe--this "nothing ever gets done with a supermajority" complaint is disingenuous. Things get done, they're just not the things YOU want done.

I also thought of something when you mentioned that.

I can't remember if it was the French economist Frederic Bastiat or the French observer Alexis de Tocqueville who, in "The Law" or "Democracy in America," respectively, noted that the nature of a democracy and checks and balances is such that people like yourself will become dissatisfied with how "nothing gets done" and will eventually look for a leader--whether it's a tyrannical State legislature or otherwise--to FORCE things that the people, or minority parties, don't want.

But hey--as long as YOU feel existentially fulfilled, and like you're part of something big, we'd all be more than happy to pay for it.

Posted by: gulliver on February 24, 2010 02:14 PM
8. off topic

Posted by: Euromantic on February 26, 2010 12:12 PM
9. off topic

Posted by: Euromantic on February 26, 2010 12:13 PM
10. Ok ok, so I'll keep my rants about Cantwell and Gregoire to myself. But the point is that Eyman's right. As tax payers we are gettin taken for a ride and there already too many things that we don't know about that OUR money is getting spent on. Most of it is completely wasted. Especially since we see so much waste already. We've already had way too many rights stripped from us and now we are getting robbed of our right to voice an opinion and vote. I'm not all for one side or another. I believe it all depends on the actual topic at hand. But the main point is, is that we need to make sure that we retain our right to have our votes matter and make sure that we are unanimous when it comes to topics that affect our tax dollars. If we get stripped of our 2/3 vote, then what next? Are you really gonna let some politician who is completely out of touch with the tax payers take all of your decision making abilities away from you? When does it become ok, for the wealthy, the politicians, the special interest groups, etc, to make all of our decisions for us? If you want/need to be led and told what to do, go to church. Just leave the rest of the intelligent alone to make their own decisions...

Posted by: Euromantic on February 26, 2010 12:57 PM
11. repeat

Posted by: Euromantic on February 26, 2010 12:58 PM
12. repeat

Posted by: Nitefire on February 26, 2010 10:34 PM
13. It just never ends no matter how hard we try or how much we complain our legislature and governnor will not heed to the will of the people. They just brush us aside, raise taxes again then head to the lounge for a drink to discuss their next free trip on the people. Did I miss it when they cut their pay and benifits 25% to help with the states budget shortfall? Of course not because they are all bloodsuckers who care only about themselves and we must remove every single one of them. Speak out, write them them with your complaint then vote them all out!

Posted by: Nitefire on February 26, 2010 10:35 PM
14. repeat

Posted by: Nitefire on February 26, 2010 10:35 PM
15. Tim,
A small minority of total voters, in an off election year approved I-960. Note that these same voters elected a near supermajority of Democrats to the state legislature.

You can't micromanage government. We do NOT live in a direct democracy. The job of the voters is to elect good, qualified people to govern...and then get out of their way, and let them do their job.

If we, the voters don't like the job they do, they don't get reelected. Simple!

In general, states with an "initiative" process (common out here in the West) are far more poorly run than those without. Its the initiative process that screwed up California (literally forcing the government into bankruptcy because real estate taxes were held down AND certain expenses (like prisons) were forced to remain).
And, I'll note, that it was YOUR I-695 Tim that gutted public transit and roads here in Puget Sound for almost a decade. Why are initiatives bad? Just interview your average American on the street about basic economics..or global trade, or even basic math. "Average" citizens aren't qualified to make the big decisions. Heck..most can barely do their taxes themselves..or understand the interest rate they pay on their credit cards!

Posted by: Proteus on February 26, 2010 10:46 PM
16. I think we need to get them all out - anyone who voted to disable I960 should be put on a ballot of "no confidence" votes and get someone in there that will actually represent the people instead of the programs they want in place.
Paul

Posted by: Paul on February 26, 2010 10:58 PM
17. Well Paul, you have that option in November. If you don't like the job our representatives are doing (you know, the ones that WE citizens elected), then vote them out! Chances are though that the people on this board mostly represent a minority viewpoint....

Posted by: Proteus on February 27, 2010 01:54 PM
18. Paul, you missed something crucial here. The people we elected pretty much ALL ran their campaigns on the premise of improving state government efficiency, reducing taxes, increasing the economy, etc., Both Democrats and Republicans. They spouted words we all wanted to hear. But this suspending the I-960 thing was the easy way and the wrong way. I-960 also included the provision that if taxes were required to be raised, the citizens were to vote on it. That puts the monkey on the backs of we the people, and the elected do not have to shoulder the blame.
The transparency clause sheds light on who is voting against the peoples choices or desires so that something can change at the next election time. Take away the vote, the transparency, and the other provisions of I-960 results in tyranny.

Posted by: Angel on February 27, 2010 05:58 PM
19. repeat

Posted by: Angel on February 27, 2010 05:59 PM
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