"Snow shuts down federal government, life goes on".
That suggests an experiment to test how long different parts of the federal government could be shut down before anybody notices.
Meanwhile, Commerce Secretary Gary Locke is busy setting up yet another indispensable government program: a NOAA agency to "study climate change":
"Whether we like it or not, climate change represents a real threat," Locke said Monday at a news conference.Correct. The 32 inches of snow that fell on DC over the weekend set an all-time record.[NOAA Administrator Jane] Lubchenco added, "Climate change is real, it's happening now."
[Lubchenco] said climate information is vital to the wind power industry, coastal community planning, fishermen and fishery managers, farmers and public health officials.Yes, but unfortunately (1) the climate has always been changing; (2) current science can't predict future climate changes anywhere near accurately enough to be of practical use to "decision-makers", contrary to NOAA's claims. Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at February 09, 2010 08:41 PM | Email This
it's just as asinine to say as saying the mildly warm winter and lack of snow in vancouver are indicitive of global warming.
neither prove anything, except your inability to discern climate from weather.
Posted by: mike on February 9, 2010 09:14 PMSomeone needs to be the party of no, otherwise this country will be bankrupt very soon. Just today, I heard that for the first time, Social Security expenses are greater than receipts - a sign of what looms ahead.
Posted by: KDS on February 9, 2010 09:20 PMit's not even close to the first time, under reagan's 80s induced recession, there were several years of greater outgo than income, including an $11B year which wiped out nearly 50% of the trust fund.
Bottom line, the whole Climate Hysteria is a scam that has been completely exposed and refuted in the last three months. Climate change has always happened, and right now we are experiencing a particularly stable climate with respect to the climate over long multi thousand year periods. Man survived those past changes, and we will do just fine now. The far greater danger to man is what happens when other men like today's Democrats try to impose their will upon him through collectivism.
Posted by: JeffB. on February 10, 2010 12:25 AMThis Brand New Video Blows a Huge Gaping Hole in Obama's Cap and Tax Scheme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVm5-6H_sH4
Those shows are indicative that these minute climate changes or global warming or global cooling we are experiencing are just natural occurrences.
For those acolytes of global warming, doesn't the fraud we hear about everyday by the 'experts' mean anything to you? I think even Europe is convinced there is no such thing as manmade global warming or global cooling or climate change.
Open your minds and free your thought. Soar through the winds and see the Truth. There is no manmade global, well, you get it. (Ed.Note: Sorry, but poetry has never been a forte)
Posted by: swatter on February 10, 2010 07:55 AM
If so, all the left wing talk of stolen, hacked, spies, purloined, etc. is bogus.
Posted by: Brer Fox on February 10, 2010 09:41 AMThe worst part for me is how much of the media is complicit in this scam.
Posted by: Palouse on February 10, 2010 09:49 AMDavid Matthews must be stuck in a snowdrift, as he is usually blabbering on one of these global smarming threads like white on rice.
Thank God for climate change.
Posted by: yaddacubed on February 10, 2010 10:45 AMThe left likes to use big numbers to scare everybody: "Three thousand gazzion tons of [insert scary compound here] a year!!!" But when put into context it doesn't mean much. Now, whenever I see the scary numbers I know that they are trying to hide the insignificance of them in the big scheme of things.
Posted by: G Jiggy on February 10, 2010 11:46 AMDoes Global Warming exist? No proof good enough for me.
Can either question, EVER be answered?
I say no, and I wish they were irrelevant.
There is both informed and ignorant consensus on all aspects of the question of human generation of "global warming"
Here is the consensus that matters:
Humans can NOT re-design the earth's climate to any significant degree, nor can we agree upon, irrelevant of expense, what the optimum local weather should be today, tomorrow or in the next century.
Find me a single climate scientist who would bet his home that such could be done. No matter how much we spend, and how much we argue
What I want is for the global warming mongers to quit moving the goalposts on this futile and chamleonic argument.
All we know is that there is LOCAL cooling and LOCAL warming. It's called climate change, and its course and nature is fascinating, but quit converting the data into squishy crap used for political purposes and revenue generation !!!
Yes. We are talking about my pocketbook and the pocketbooks of future generations.
There is NO debate that our precious resources should be spent first on the most pressing problems and Climate Change is NOT in the top ten.
You guys started this crap, not us. You guys are the ones who proclaim that the weather behaves in accordance with Man's sins. You guys are the ones who promised that Global Warming was happening, and offered a lack of snow as proof.
mike, please... you don't *still* fall for this hoax, do you? Do you?
We've got MSNBC and TIME telling us today that the snow in the Northeast is due to Global Warming.
mike, doesn't that embarrass you?
Posted by: Gary on February 10, 2010 02:57 PMI'm all in favor of heavy taxation of exotic musical instruments, live theater and music concert tickets, pre-recorded CDs (especially "indie rock"), apartment rent, electric cars, bath houses, rolling papers, KY jelly, and herpes medication. Use THAT money to fight AGW.
Posted by: Attila on February 10, 2010 03:01 PMmike, it's not *our* side that's trying to prove anything. It's yours. The obligation is on you to prove AGW theory. It is not our obligation to prove that your theory is B.S. That isn't how science works. And as we see at the CRU and IPCC, science is the least of their interests.
Posted by: Gary on February 10, 2010 03:22 PMI don't want to gloat, but I told you so.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on February 10, 2010 07:15 PMI don't want to gloat, but I told you so.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on February 10, 2010 07:15 PMFirst off, we don't hear about the state governments on the east coast using ineffective sand because somehow using salt might hurt fish that live in Salt Water.
We probably won't still be hearing about the clogged roads 7 days after the storm is over, and 10's of thousand won't be without power 10 days after the storm.
We probably will hear about how the snow removal equipment was deployed first to service the homes of major city and state politicians. (Cronyism and corruption exists here too.)
Even the Seattle city council agreed that the local goverment had done some truly stupid things during that storm and in its aftermath.
So don't come on here trying to paint the whole affair as if it was some sort of a conservative extremist issue. That might work on horsesass.org though. Try over there.
Posted by: johnny on February 11, 2010 09:58 AM(and yet liberals still revere Ted Danson)
Posted by: Gary on February 11, 2010 01:56 PMThe big government solutions to "Climate Change" are even more appalling - Cap and Tax. That goes for Copenhagen Climate Summit and a number of EU governments and what the US House of Reps. approved last year. Utility bills would increase 50-80% and gasoline prices rise to about $5/gal. The EPA also needs to be reeled from imposing fines on carbon footprints. The relationship between CO2 and temperature has been shown to not be statistically significant. A driving force behind using CO2 is that fossil fuels are included, which is a big part of the follow the money activist payoff to big government.
Posted by: KDS on February 11, 2010 02:46 PMLook, just because the climate decides to cool off or doesn't follow the models doesn't means that the 7 series BMW payments stop. These guys like Michael Mann and the rest have car, house and tuition payments like everybody else. Where would the checks come from if they simply jumped up and said: "Looks like we were a little off. Nothing wrong particularly. We took a look, just a dead end. But that's science."
The world is awash in climate dough and that's what drags in the crooks. It's that way with anything where there is easy money, from pot and cocaine to senates seats and tenure. And of course, Climate Change™
Posted by: G Jiggy on February 11, 2010 03:03 PMTime Magazine contained an article (Another Snowstorm: What Happened to Global Warming?) that included the following quote:
"Weather is what will happen next weekend; climate is what will happen over the next decades and centuries. And while our ability to predict the former has become reasonably reliable, scientists are still a long way from being able to make accurate projections about the future of global climate."
Climate is a compendium of regional weather data
over past decades, centuries, millennia, and longer periods of time. Climate data (historical) may be indicative of future weather events over varying periods of time. However, is the current manifestation of linked, complex, chaotic global systems and phenomena that are not well understood. It is weather that determines what climate will be, not the opposite.
Weather can be predicted locally and regionally with some accuracy for periods of a few days at best. Climate cannot be accurately predicted or projected any better than we can foresee future history.
Climate alarmists have to be confronted when they use climate or weather improperly. Their contention that climate determines what current weather will be is absurd, counter intuitive. Weather is the horse that pulls the cart, climate.
The "climate change",(once known as "global warming") hoax is beginning to die out. The left will dream up some other disaster, I don't know if it will be "dying oceans" or something else they'll come up with. However, leftists will be busy the next couple of weeks attempting to disrupt the Winter Olympics. What a fun bunch of people.
The crux of the matter is, of course, the time over which you "define" climate and who gets to define it. If you define "climate" to be the last 100 years, you can make things slide hotter or colder. If you define it to be over the last 1000 years, things get tricky. If you define it over the last 100,000 years, we're nowhere near the hottest or coldest or even the fastest changing.
It's all about defining the window of time that is of concern...
Posted by: Shanghai Dan on February 11, 2010 03:27 PM". . . the BBC, a prime proponent of warming theory, or AGW, has heavily invested its pension fund in the theory, and thus have had a major non-Scientific reason for their bias. As revealed this weekend in The Express . . ." [ here ]
This is right next door to Al Baby owning a big hunk of that carbon trading company and doing the Pump and Dump using AGW movies, slide shows and speeches. Not very nice.
Posted by: G Jiggy on February 12, 2010 03:13 PMWashington's snowstorms, brought to you by global warming
Despite global warming, it still gets cold enough to snow in the middle of winter. It even gets cold enough to snow in Texas and Georgia, as it did late last week. And the chances of what are technically called "big honking dumps" have increased. As Jeff Masters, the widely read weather blogger, pointed out last week, a record snowstorm requires a record amount of moisture in the air. "It is quite possible that the dice have been loaded in favor of more intense Nor'easters for the U.S. Mid-Atlantic and Northeast, thanks to the higher levels of moisture present in the air due to warmer global temperatures," he wrote.
But just keeping posting BS analysis like this, and be sure to ignore the climate change in your own backyard on display for the world at the 2010 Winter Olympics.
You're a genius!
Forecasters suggest this may turn out to be the warmest Winter Olympic games on record.
Keeping records is just the pointyheaded liberals' way of attempting to prove that reality has a well-known liberal bias.
Forecast smorecast.... nobody could have predicted!
Hmmmm. Life must be feeling a little tough for the marxist AGW fanatics.
Posted by: Attila on February 14, 2010 10:31 PMAll you guys have left is faith. It has become a religion.
Leftie, you guys have it all ways. No matter what the weather does, you attribute it to man-made global warming. It is not up to the skeptics to dis-prove *your* theories. You were all jumping up and down in Congress screaming that a lack of snow was proof of global warming.
What happened to the glacier that used to exist where my house is now?
I guess someone forgot to tell some of our usual lefties to go back to their talking points headquarters and seek new marching orders.
Posted by: Jeff B. on February 16, 2010 01:01 AM