November 03, 2009
Eyman: "Thank you for making Initiative 1033 a success"
Congratulations -- you did it.
Jack, Mike, and I are very proud of all of you for working so hard to get Initiative 1033 before the voters this year. It was a Herculean effort getting 315,000 signatures in just 4 months -- it was and is an extraordinary accomplishment.
Thank you. Thank you for making I-1033 a reality.
There's a scene from the movie "A League of Their Own" where Tom Hanks plays a baseball coach and Gina Davis is one of his ball players. When she was thinking of quitting, she told him "It just got too hard." To which Tom Hanks replied:
"It's supposed to hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. It's the hard that makes it great."
Initiatives are hard. There's a reason that only one initiative qualified for the ballot this year. It's because they're hard. But we believe that pro-taxpayer initiatives are the average taxpayers only opportunity to have their voice heard.
Jack, Mike, and I really appreciate everyone's hard work and effort to get I-1033 on the ballot. Voters are lucky to have all of you fighting for them.
See you tonight at the Bellevue Hyatt. Good luck to us all.
Posted by Tim Eyman at November 03, 2009
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1. "Initiatives are hard. There's a reason that only one initiative qualified for the ballot this year."
Hard? Appealing to voters' greed and mathematical naivete with the aid of a half million dollars that Michael Dunmire once again gave you and your paid signature gatherers for this "grassroots" initiative?
My genuine compliments on your marketing skills, however, Tim. I hope you will someday use them to better society instead of appealing to people's greed. Now that would be hard.
I have written several times to you and your organization about getting getting an Initiative going to exempt schools, fire departments and transportation projects to be exempted from sales tax.
State sales tax on schools and tranportation projects is just legalized money laundering of the gas tax and property taxes to the state general fund.
Why not do this and save our schools money?
It is easy for those that cannot do to criticize those that can.
If doing an initiative is so darn easy, why don't YOU get off your rear and do one? You can't because you are nothing but a lazy armchair pundit incapable of contributing anything but criticisms.
4. I hope you will someday use them to better society instead of appealing to people's greed.
Yeah, I mean how dare we taxpayers think that we should be allowed to keep any of the money we work hard to earn, as long as government is here to be a wasteful stewards of the ever increasing amount of money we send their way. Last time I checked, Bruce. Government didn't earn that money, I did. So don't whine to me about "greed" when it's me that earned it and it's government that burned it. Starve the beast? You bet.
5. Yeah! What #3 & #4 said! :)
How hard was it to pay $600,000 to signature gathers to round up people to sign I-1033's petition?
Your fundraising wasn't hard. An investment banker gives you $300,000, you give $250,000 and that's about 95 percent of your money. And the $250,000 loan you took out will just be paid by Dunmire, like it was last year, so that's not hard.
You paid yourself $120,000 earlier this year for what? Paying Jack, Mike and signature gatherers to do the hardest work associated with the campaign?
I bet most of your supporters wish they could earn six figures for going on TV and giving their opinions.
7. #2 "greed"? Let's see... you want my money and you call *me* greedy?
8. It's always a riot when people accuse others of being greedy for wanting to keep their money.
I think there is room in government for greater efficiencies to be had, with little impact on the services furnished.
Just this morning, Snohomish County Utilities is out in front of my place making some drainage improvements. The County has a single track-hoe operating at about 1 house per day, digging a 48" x shovel width trench. The trench is then being filled with gravel.
So, how many dump trucks, per day x a few trips does it take to depart the removed soil from a 100'x 4'x 2.5' trench?
No less than three dump trucks sat idle, empty with drivers sitting in trucks. Three full size dump trucks! To only make this model of efficiency better, there were *only* dump truck drivers there. No Track-hoe operator, no shovelers, no-one tamping or operating the bobcat, nothing. This is the second day in a row where for several hours in the morning, dump trucks (plural) sat unloaded and on idle.
I'd bet that a single dump truck could be parked for the entire day and not fill up based on the progress of the hoe operator. They would not even have to take a single trip. I wonder if those other two dump trucks even operated that day? Perhaps one had a load of gravel???
I-1033 all the way, there's plenty of more costly examples of excessive waste at the expense of the taxpayer, it's time to tighten the belt.
21 initiatives filed this year, of which, 11 were filed by you.
some of the others?
a bonehead in blain who doesn’t think he should have to wear helmets while riding motorcycles
an initiative for a state run health care system
an initiative to repeal the b&o tax
some nut who thinks the state should recognize the ‘Supreme Ruler Of The Universe’ – who, undoubtedly, is Thor
way to pat yourself on the back, tim.
11. Way to go #10. Petty trivial effort in some vain attempt to offend. My kindergartner could learn a few things about the 1st grade from you.
Since the big, outta control government proponents aka Union Goons have consistently misrepresented the impact of I-1033, allow me to pile on with irrelevancy as well:
TIM EYMAN IS A PRACTICING HOMO SAPIEN!
13. Bruce @ #1:
Obviously Bruce, your view of crafting a better society is by giving government unfettered access to tax money. As much as they want for as long as they want as long as it is for our own good. So why don't you tell us how much of your income are you willing to contribute to the making of a better society? 25%? 50%? 75%? Give us an idea of how committed you are to the concept of unlimited spending to create a better society.
14. The first results are supposed to come out at 8 PM tonight and this is supposed to be the link to go to.
15. Those who cannot do should stay out of the way of those who can.
16. #13 Excellent question. And any amount left over that he wants to keep we can chalk up to "greed".
17. #15 Do who? :)
18. Interesting how Bruce labels voters (the ones who are paying for government operations) greedy, but not the greedy politicians who are spending like there's no tomorrow and don't seem to care, either.
Thank God for Tim, one of only a handful of taxpayer advocates in this Marxist state of ours. I don't give a rip what he pays himself - neither should #6 Mike, as it's not your money. What the mikes (sic) should worry about is the waste of their taxes by a bloated, out of control moneypit.
Tim's next initiative - funds to replace the shift key for annoying bloggers whose keyboard must be missing one.
Here's a crazy idea for an initiative that will save huge dollars. I used to get on the bus at the same stop as a woman who worked for the state attorney general's office. She retired a few months ago. She told me the general deal is to work for 30 years and retire with a pension of 60% of your salary. Then, you get another job and work for another 15 years or so and really rake it in. The rest of the world has moved to 401(k)s. I'm sure there's a logical flaw in my thinking, since nobody's ever done anything like this, to the best of my knowledge. Let's raise the retirement age from around 52 to 62, and ditch the antiquated pension.
Why should well-paid state employees get to retire way before the rest of us, and with a cushy pension as well? Ending this practice would save billions.
21. My husband and I work long, long hours in the nearly futile hope that we can somehow save enough to retire on. We don't want to retire at 55 or 60. We want to retire before we're 80.
Every time some liberal declares us to be "greedy" and raises our taxes, they set us back that much farther. If our taxes get raised any more, we will just stop working so hard. What's the point of all these extra hours? If it's greedy to object to the taxes, then it must also be greedy to give up and wave a white flag. So be it.
#15 Do who? :)
Per R-71, anyone you want...:)
23. The tragedy of the current raking of taxes and then giving it away to groups is the destruction of a generational mindset. Used to be taxes built infrastructure and then repaired it and defended the nation and I stood on my dad's work so my children may stand on mine.
Then we forgot.
Now money is taken at alarming rates and is given away to individuals that consume it and are never given a hope of ever getting off the drug of money as their 'resume' is only cashing a check. I have nothing to leave my family and someone is always willing to take it and give it away to someone that has no family or a destroyed family that repeats the cycle.
1033 is a shot at the thinking that thinks this makes sense.
24. If 1033 wins, we have only handed the Democrats another convenient scapegoat for their own failures. Let them fail, with no one to blame but themselves, then we can elect a GOP majority. These initiatives feel good but keep incompetent lawmakers in their jobs.
I'm pretty tired of being accused of "greed" for resisting government attempts to confiscate money that *I* earn.
Taking it from me may be greed, but me wanting to hold onto it sure as hell is not.
26. No reason to get so bent out of shape about your fiat tax money..... it is just paper and bits in the mainframe.
27. Virginia and New Jersey are GOP.
28. Eyman, please go away now and forever. This vote should send you a strong message. Voters just don't even come close to supporting you. You just waste money by forcing these issues on the ballot. What a waste.
To: Listen to the Voters @ 28
Eyman gives me hope.
Hope for change. :)
I contributed money to the 1033 campaign and it was worth every penny. Just for the hope.
The only strong message that got sent was it is easier to steal votes by mail than when it required actually stuffing a ballot box.
31. We kicked your a*s, Eyman you scumbag loser, and we'll kick it again and again until we run your sorry a*s out of the state.
32. We kicked your a*s, Eyman you scumbag loser, and we'll kick it again and again until we run your sorry a*s out of the state.
Posted by: ivan on November 3, 2009 09:41 PM
You see socialist scumbags like you turn this state into a cesspool. It's indecent attitudes like yours that completely pollute the body politic and make it unlivable.
1033 didn't lose because it was a bad idea.
It lost for two reasons: because it was outspent 8+ to 1, and because Eyman's very name is the kiss-of-death in our blue state.
I watch just MINUTES of TV every month, and this month I saw at least 30 NO commercials, and I also saw 100+ campaign signs.
At least 1/3 of the NO campaign's money, by the way, was from government unions. What I mean by that is this: it was TAXPAYER MONEY, repackaged. Your money was thus used against you. Why is it that an individual can only donate $5000 but a government union can donate $330,000? Guess this wasn't covered in any campaign finance reforms...
The Eyman haters are intellectual deviants. When a guy wants you to pay less in taxes and all you're thinking about is homicide, you're a bona fide nutter. NEVERTHELESS, I think Eyman is finished as an initiative guy. All opponents have to do now is flash "TIM EYMAN" next to the initiative name and it's dead in the water.