October 11, 2009
Local actor dies on solo hike

I was saddened to read yesterday of the death of local actor T.J. Langely. He died while hiking solo in the Glacier Peak backcountry. I interviewed T.J. 10 years ago for my magazine, BEARS and Other Top Predators, after he had been severely injured by a grizzly bear in Yellowstone National Park. That was also while he was hiking solo. I identify with T.J.'s compulsion to go alone to such places. I've actually hiked solo myself in the area where he died.

For many of us, wilderness calls to mind more primal times when life choices and opportunities were bounded more by nature, less by the rules and requirements of social institutions. Wilderness visits help recharge our batteries for dealing with the latter. I am not in favor of dismantling the social institutions that make life so much easier now than in primitive times. But I would like to see some of our institutions dialed back a notch, to see modern living a degree or two closer to the hard freedom that our progenitors enjoyed.

My only interaction with T.J. was the one time in the hospital after his quintessential primitive encounter. Judging by his reaction to that difficulty, I would guess that he had many friends, and that he will be sorely missed.


I've posted more thoughts on T.J. Langely and information about the area where he died at my backcountry blog FindingWilderness.com.

Posted by Carter Mackley at October 11, 2009 01:14 PM | Email This
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1. If his death reminds city types that the wild country is not all bambi and huggable trees, it will have serve a good purpose.

I have spent many days doing what T.J. did and have been rewarded with a life full of great adventures and with memories of those days that keep me satisfied when urban life gets too hectic or too dull.

I doubt T.J. died unfulfilled.

Posted by: deadwood on October 11, 2009 01:39 PM
2. Fulfilled? Perhaps. Wasted? Certainly. Solo hiking of dangerous terrain is foolishly dangerous.

There has been a lot of talk about requiring fatties (like me) and smokers to pay extra for health insurance. While that might be fair, other lifestyle choices should face a similar penalty.

Solo hikers, motorcyclists, free climbers, base jumpers, scuba divers, etc. Heck, people who drive or fly for a living. Drug users. People who engage in behavior making them more susceptible to HIV or Hep. Penalize me if you must, but the bus under which I am thrown should have plenty of other speedbumps.

Hairy

Posted by: Hairy Buddah on October 11, 2009 05:52 PM
3. So he fell into a crevasse? Yikes.

Interesting to read about his encounter with a bear at Yellowstone. Our family was in Yellowstone two months ago. One hike we took only a small part of was not far from Dunraven Pass and we read at the trailhead that there had been bear sightings on the trail. Would love to have taken the whole trail (more of a half-day trek) but a bit concerned about encountering bears. They really seem to like the high country. When we go back to Yellowstone, I'll be sure to bring a knife and pepperspray (thanks to your articles) before we take that trail.

Posted by: Michele on October 11, 2009 08:46 PM
4. Ah, Dunraven Pass and nearby Lamar Valley -- the best places in the lower 48 to see bears with binoculars and spotting scopes. Knife and pepper spray yes, but the best thing is don't have the encounter in the first place -- make lots of noise, go in groups, be alert, etc. We had numerous articles in the print magazine that discussed bear avoidance. I will edit the article to make that clear.

Thanks.

Posted by: Carter Mackley on October 11, 2009 09:09 PM
5. Of course the best thing is to not encounter :-). Believe me, that is not something I would want to have happen. (maybe the best thing is not to take that trail!) The advice to go in groups and make noise is of course primary in importance and good to be reminded of.

I have a question, though: While fortunately I've never seen a bear on any backcountry hike, what would a group of two or four people do who-- while hiking along a trail-- come upon a bear several yards in the distance? In other words, maybe the bear is not right there at you, but close enough that he sees you a little ways away? Do you quickly turn and walk back to the trailhead? Do you run? Do you walk backward while facing said bear so you know what he's doing at all times? Would love to hear your take on this.

Posted by: Michele on October 12, 2009 01:20 AM
6. PS--In which part of Yellowstone did Langely have his encounter?

The Lamar Valley was one of the few places we did not get to. Covered the rest of the park reasonably well, except that we want to spend overnights at Tower next time around. It's so different from the rest of the park. We stopped at Tower on our way to driving a bit west of there to the Petrified Tree stop before turning around. But didn't get to take the drive east of Tower. That's next on the list, along with a two-hour trail horseback ride at Tower. Ah, I get excited just thinking about going back there. Yellowstone is world-class.

Posted by: Michele on October 12, 2009 01:36 AM
7. Way too many people at Yellowstone. The only time we found you get into and out of many of the better geothermal sites was between 6 and 10 AM. After that it was traffic jams, especially when an animal was near the road.

Of course mid August might have been a bad time to visit.

Posted by: deadwood on October 12, 2009 05:47 AM
8. I would nominate Mr. Langley for the Darwin awards. It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to understand that if you don't respect the wilderness, it certainly won't respect you back. He was mauled seriously 10 years ago while hiking solo and should have learned a lesson back then. Apparently he didn't and instead found himself dying at the bottom of a crevasse with no alternatives 10 years later.

Sad, but true.

Posted by: Rick D. on October 12, 2009 06:33 AM
9. Rick, I'm not sure what getting attacked by a bear teaches you about crossing glaciers. If the lesson is don't hike solo at all, well, you are going to have an uphill battle convincing thousands of us not to do that.

Michelle,

T.J. was in the northwest corner of Yellowstone when he was attacked.

For an answer to your question about what to do if your group confronts a bear, see my post today at FindingWilderness.com.

Posted by: Carter Mackley on October 12, 2009 09:40 AM
10. Thanks, Carter. Went over to the link and read the info. Very informative and interesting. Would like to read more of your stuff about bear avoidance, etc.

Posted by: Michele on October 12, 2009 12:28 PM
11. I've been a regular "prudent" solo alpine hiker since 1965.

There are three virtues of solo hiking that are seldom considered.

One is that hiking with a partner sometimes can lead to a bit of risk taking that a prudent solo hiker would not take since he has no back-up.

Another is that alpine hiking usually results in rockfall onto other members of your team.

The third is that a prudent alpine hiker, such as myself, documents and files a complete route plan with a family member or friend.

There are many aesthetic virtues to solo hiking.

Mainly, no annoying complaints and comments from one's hiking partner about the route.

I have, in fact, required a mountain rescue. It would not have occurred had I been solo.

These days there are various electronic rescue locating devices which are often better than depending upon your buddy to run to the trail head.

Cell phones, however, should never be depended upon for communication in the mountains, though are worth their weight in your pack.

I have encountered many black bears in the mountains. I did once encounter one who basically ignored me. All others ran like the devil.

As Carter knows, I have seen sign of other, more cryptic large mammals.

Posted by: Bart Cannon on October 12, 2009 12:33 PM
12. Bart, how many feet away would you say the bear that ignored you was?

Posted by: Michele on October 12, 2009 12:40 PM
13. Personally, I think anyone that goes solo into any wilderness terrain is a bit off their bubble. There are simply too many ways to find yourself in a situation where you're incapacitated and at that point,your options are severely limited. There is a reason ranger's say to work within the buddy system. I don't know if that would have saved Mr. Langely, but it sure as hell couldn't have hurt him any more than the way it eventually turned out.

Posted by: Rick D. on October 12, 2009 01:53 PM
14. Rick D.

I AM a little "off my bubble" like many people at this blog. But not so much regarding solo hiking.

I forgot to mention yet another hidden virtue of hiking alone. Most accidents and lost hikers are caught in lousy weather.

With few exceptions, I ONLY hike when EXCELLENT weather is forecast for at least a day ahead of my hike.

If I were to hike with a companion, then I would need to accomodate their work schedule and many weather decision compromises would be made.

With one exception, my few dire mountain situations have been in lousy weather due to my companion's schedule.

I've long been self-employed. Guess I'm lucky to have my pick of the best days.

Posted by: Bart Cannon on October 12, 2009 02:58 PM
15. Done lots of hiking and hunting in bear and cougar areas. I carry a good knife, pepper spray and a .380 automatic, the last of which comes out first. Thankfully, I have never had to use it, but I have seen grizzlies in Alaska within 200 yards of me, and I was simultaneously awestruck and scared at the same time.

Posted by: Palouse on October 12, 2009 03:10 PM
16. Michelle,

My single "close-up" encounter with a bear occurred as I arrived at the saddle between Guye Peak and Cave Ridge near Snoqualmie Pass.

The bear was arriving there at the same time and didn't back off. He was about 40 feet from me.

I tossed a rock in his direction and he climbed a tree. I continued up Cave Ridge after noticing that when he lowered himself down the tree, he returned to from whence he came down into Commonwealth Basin.

On my return down the mountain I was navigating through some talus and continually checked behind me to cofirm that my young, talus inexperienced labrador was doing OK.

I did a double take when I noticed two black animals behind me. One was the bear and he was closer to me than my dog. About 20 feet.

I was collecting garnet crystals and had my hammer and long chisel in my hands. I immediately made a lot of noise with the tools and climbed up a 12 foot talus boulder, still clanging my hammer and chisel. The bear could easily have followed me up the boulder.

The bear never looked up and my dog never barked.

I called my dog and the two of us watched the bear head down the mountain. Probably to a garbage can at Alpental.

This was in 1974.

My current trail animal is a 110 pound german sheherd. He chases bears for sport. This is a very bad behavior for all concerned and one which has caused me to keep him on leash at all times.

Taking a dog is another good safety factor on a hike. I don't go anywhere that my dog can't climb up or get down from on his own. Another way to keep myself out of trouble since dogs aren't as good at rock climbing as people.

Posted by: Bart Cannon on October 12, 2009 03:14 PM
17. Bart,

Dogs have saved their humans as well as created bear problems. It kind of cuts both ways.

Palouse,

If you want to avoid injury, I recommend you take your pepper spray out first, and carry a bigger gun if you are in grizzly country. See my post on this exact topic at http://www.findingwilderness.com/how-to-fight-bears/. When I get around to it I will post on the forest service ranger who was only able to kill the grizzly chewing on his leg with the sixth and last round fired from his .357 magnum.

Posted by: Carter Mackley on October 12, 2009 03:19 PM
18. Palouse,

I've interviewed quite a few experienced backcountry people about bear protection.

The only handgun that MIGHT stop a large charging bear is a .44 Magnum. Most seem to think that a Remington .870 shotgun with a lead slug is the only certain weapon. And you need to be carrying it in your arms.

Pepper spray is better than nothing. And when you see bear sign on the trail, have a whistle or a pot and a spoon to make noise.

The old joke is: how do you identify grizzly sign?

Smells like pepper spray and has a whistle in it.

Posted by: Bart Cannon on October 12, 2009 03:21 PM
19. Seven shots from a .38 ought to at least slow him down. :) Then, I can run. I'm a pretty good shot with that gun too, .44 not so much. I've got little kids now, so I don't do much of that hiking any more anyway.

Posted by: Palouse on October 12, 2009 03:32 PM
20. Carter,

You can be sure that if my dog and I were face to face with an angry bear, my dog would be off leash at the color in part of one second.

I sometimes carry a .357 magnum with a 6 inch barrel. Mostly for imagined protection.

Note that firearms are not allowed in our enlarging National Parks system, nor are dogs, be there for pack animal purposes or protection.

Meanwhile, old farts such as Joel Connelly, one time outdoorsman who can no longer hike, are campaigning to not only re-introduce grizzlies into their old range in the North Cascades, but INTRODUCE them into new, more southerly parts of the Cascades.

When I suggested that his plan was slightly sociopathic he became outraged at me, and informed me that more people die from lightning strikes than grizzly attacks. Dozens of people per year are killed by lightning.

I would MUCH prefer to be killed by lightning than by a grizzly.

The only experience worse than being killed by a bear is surviving one of their attacks.

Posted by: Bart Cannon on October 12, 2009 04:38 PM
21. Bart, Palouse

many people have stopped a bear with a handgun, including smaller bore handguns, but because bullets usually don't kill instantly, many people also end up on the ground with the bear, and only finish the job after getting severely injured. On the other hand, pepper spray usually turns the bear immediately. See my article on this topic at FindingWilderness.com

FYI, Firearms will be allowed in National Parks as of February 10, 2009.

Posted by: Carter Mackley on October 12, 2009 04:49 PM
22. Like some folks here, I also enjoy hiking alone and I do not plan to stop. Thanks for all the tips!

Posted by: Quincy on October 12, 2009 09:36 PM
23. Off topic. Thanks for posting the info on adequately lighting your bike for Seattle riding. I try to share the road with bicycles, but can't tell you how many times a bike has appeared suddenly from the dark (sometimes running a light or stop sign!) with few or no lights. Most bikes and riders I have seen also don't have adequate reflectors on bikes or clothing. When it is dark and raining, it is truly DARK around here. Help us see you! I follow my own advice and have a flashing headlamp and light colored or reflectorized clothing for when I'm doing my early AM walk.

Posted by: Peggy on October 13, 2009 08:00 AM
24. I strongly believe in the carrying of a side arm for protection while hiking in wilderness areas. I don't care if you are hiking with a group or by yourself. An aggressive bear will attack whoever is closes whether, there is one or more people present. Yes, you can use pepper spray and hopefully the bear will cease it's attack but, it is not a guaranteed. An aggressive bear that attacks man should always be shot...DEAD.

Posted by: Daniel on October 13, 2009 09:20 AM
25. Peggy. Thanks for your comments on lighting. It's good to have the perspective of drivers. You should consider adding your thoughts in the comment section of the article. (They are open now.)

Bart, Palouse, Michelle,

I justed posted on FindingWilderness.com about a runner in Utah who had a charge/stare down incident with a cougar. A frequent occurrence. You may find it interesting.

Posted by: Carter Mackley on October 13, 2009 11:05 AM
26. Thanks, Carter. Wow, a cougar. Will go and read. This whole topic is, as you can see, quite interesting to me. That's because it's something I've always wondered about but never got into learning much about til now. I have really enjoyed all of the bear encounter discussions here and on your blog.

Posted by: Michele on October 13, 2009 12:23 PM
27. An aggressive bear that attacks man should always be shot...DEAD.

Well, that kind of thinking would make sense if bears had the intelligence of humans, but to them, you're the aggressor by "intruding", whether perceived or real, on THEIR territory, making YOU the aggressor in their mind. In the instinctive "fight or flight" world of wild animals, it's not as simple as saying 'this bear decided to attack me so I shot it'.

If you want an example of what not to do out in the wilderness re: behavior with bears, plug Timothy Treadwell into a search engine. That guy definately deserved a Darwin awards honorable mention.

Posted by: Rick D. on October 13, 2009 07:52 PM
28. Rick D...Quit being such, a Liberal Animal Rights Extremist. There is such a thing as mean animal whether, domestic or wild. Most bears prefer to avoid humans. Yes, I know about the mother bear defending her cubs. But, nevertheless, if such an unfortunate occurrence should present itself, you still have the right to defend yourself in the most effective manner at your command. However, for the rare few bears who have a mean streak in them and purposely attacks man then, he certainly should be shot...DEAD.

What would you do? Merely, pepper spray and hope that it is effective enough so he doesn't rip you apart? Merely, pepper spray and allow the animal to remain alive to rip someone else apart?

Posted by: Daniel on October 13, 2009 09:57 PM
29. However, for the rare few bears who have a mean streak in them and purposely attacks man then, he certainly should be shot...DEAD.

Bears can attack for any number of reasons other than being a "rogue man killer", Daniel or in your words "mean". It's simply not that cut and dried. I suggest reading the story on Timothy Treadwell and tell me he wasn't basically baiting a bear to attack him. Camping near salmon streams frequented by them, staying late in the season where hungry bears are foraging for sustenance before hibernation, etc.

I would agree that you should have the right to defend yourself in any manner possible 'if' attacked by a bear, but you seem to simplify this to an absurd black and white scenario where all bear attacks are conducted by mean bears. Sometimes, it's stupid people that do stupid things that put themselves into these situations. If that makes me a 'liberal animals rights extremist', so be it.

Posted by: Rick D on October 14, 2009 04:50 AM
30. Yes, I know that bears can attack for any number of reasons. I have already given you the example of the mother bear defending her cubs. So, why are you continuing to comment as though I don't know what bears are all about? Yes, you can unnecessarily put yourself at risk by creating a situtation where a bear is tempted to take aggressive action. These things are known to me and most people of common sense. For you to think that my statement that you should shoot an aggressive attacking bear dead is out of line is...RIDICULOUS!

Posted by: Daniel on October 14, 2009 05:49 AM
31. For you to think that my statement that you should shoot an aggressive attacking bear dead is out of line is...RIDICULOUS!

Now, you're telling me what I'm thinking, Daniel? That really and truly is 'ridiculous'. Read the first sentence of the 2nd paragraph of my comment above your last for reference.

Posted by: Rick D. on October 14, 2009 07:57 PM
32. Try to remember Rick, that you began this exchange between us with your posting of #27 decrying my statement that "An aggressive bear that attacks man should always be shot...DEAD". You gave a typical Liberal take, that man was the intruder on THEIR territory and man is guilty for an attack and not the bear as though, shooting DEAD the attacking bear was somehow Wrong. What a JOKE! I'm not telling you what your thinking, you've already told me what you are thinking. So again, my statement "For you to think that my statement that you should shoot an aggressive attacking bear dead is out of line is...RIDICULOUS!" remains VALID!

Posted by: Daniel on October 14, 2009 09:04 PM
33. You gave a typical Liberal take, that man was the intruder on THEIR territory and man is guilty for an attack and not the bear as though, shooting DEAD the attacking bear was somehow Wrong.

For one, yes, they [man] is intruding on THEIR [the Bear's] territory. You may not like that reality, but it remains a reality nonetheless when in the wilderness. Otherwise, we'd call the F'ing mall the "WILDerness" and not the "mall" where we humans choose to mingle, forage for food and get the necessities to sustain our existence- ours is just a wee bit more condensed territory. If you're still confused by what I'm trying to say, just take the first 4 bold letters in the word above and utter it until it finally sinks in.

For Two I didn't "imply man was guilty for an attack", but rather that he may have put himself in a situation where an attack has been made inevitable through careless actions when dealing with a species that lives by the innate 'fight or flight' instinct borne of thousands of years and a less advanced mental capacity to discern "agression" like our species has. It's apples and oranges.

Posted by: Rick D. on October 14, 2009 09:42 PM
34. Let's face it...You're a Liberal. I fully understand the meaning of the WILDerness. I'm fully aware of your apples to oranges comparison. The whole matter is your injection and adverse position to my comment that any bear that attacks man should be shot...DEAD! I stand by that position. What you are trying to do, is talk around your earlier objection and somehow come out as correct. Well, you are not, correct if you still stand by your position of your first posting. Nuff said.

Posted by: Daniel on October 15, 2009 07:33 AM
35. Let's face it...You're a Liberal.

..and you're nuttier than squirrel droppings.

Posted by: Rick D. on October 15, 2009 08:40 AM
36. Okay. I think you guys have beat this subject to death, not to mention yourselves. I'm turning the comments off for now.

If you are still interested in the subject I have blogged on a recent cougar encounter in Utah and several bear attacks near Anchorage at FindingWilderness.com

Posted by: Carter Mackley on October 15, 2009 09:10 AM