September 27, 2009
AIDS walk just has to get political

I was at the 2009 AIDS Walk yesterday. It was a beautiful, warm and sunshiny day, perfect for runners and walkers to do their part in raising, thus far, close to $400,000. The event kicked off with some nice speeches from AG Rob McKenna and others including a very moving speech from a woman who's been living with HIV for 23 years, a great testament to how far we've come in the fight against HIV/AIDS.

While overall it was a good morning, unfortunately there were a couple moments that spoiled the morning some. Instead of just cheering on all the teams that did such hard work to raise all this money, celebrating the recent advances in AIDS research and enjoying the weather at Volunteer Park, some speakers just had to get political.

No surprise that one of them was Congressman Jim McDermott. While McDermott was not there in person he sent a letter praising the event's aims and achievements but also giving a plug to Congress's current fight for government run health care. Just leave it alone, Jim. Can't we all just come together for a moment, agree that we all would like to see AIDS gone from the planet and not have to bring in the divisiveness of the health care debate into it?

And perhaps the worst of it came when one of the organizers of the event cheered with glee that finally "we've turned our anger and activism into action and elected a president and congress" that care about the fight against AIDS. Never mind that President Bush gave billions of dollars to combat AIDS, helping millions of people worldwide with the disease earning praise from the likes of the New York Times and erstwhile opponent John Kerry. And never mind that President Obama actually broke campaign promises to devote more funds to the fight against AIDS.

I know that probably 85% of the people at the AIDS Walk yesterday were your typical far-left Seattle liberals but was sliding a sly jab against Republicans into your event really necessary? In the words of Rodney King, "can't we all just get along" if even for a day?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2009930981_aids24.html

Posted by MarkGriswold at September 27, 2009 07:27 AM | Email This
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1. Given Reagan's views on AIDS while he was President, I agree that we have indeed come a long way.

Posted by: demo kid on September 27, 2009 08:55 AM
2. Reductio ad Reaganum. What about McCarthy ? What about Hitler ? What about Ghengis Khan ? Absurdist commentary should not limit itself to half measures. The enemy here is the AIDS virus, not some rogues gallery demon, drawn from the political nightmares of those whose knees are always jerking. AIDS is a serious issue, and political fanfare adds nothing to it. Preoccupation with politics to the exclusion of every other consideration is the mark of a secondary mind. May I suggest 435 new faces in congress as the best antidote ? Aren't we all tired of trick shot politics and poll-tested phrases soiling the public square ? Think about it when you vote. Its a powerful thought. You could make it all change.

Posted by: John on September 27, 2009 07:33 PM
3. Demo Kid - This doesn't need to be political, but since you want to throw rocks, here's a FACT: GWB did more to combat AIDS in his 8 years then all the Presidents before him combined, and will have done far more then Obama even if he stays in office for 8 years.

GWB did more for Africa on AIDS, and got more results, then anybody else in the history of the world. That cannot be seriously disputed.

So suck it.

To everyone else: The AIDS Walk sounds great, other then McDipshit, but that's to be expected.

Posted by: Cliff on September 27, 2009 08:12 PM
4. They're mostly leftist scum. Dey can't hep it... dey was born with a communist foot in their mouths.

Posted by: hinton on September 27, 2009 08:33 PM
5. Again, try to find fault with the statement -- Reagan was shamefully negligent with this "serious issue", as you put it. The saint of the Republican Party did nothing for years while AIDS became an epidemic, because he was surrounded by fringe right-wingers that thought gay men deserved to waste away and die.

And despite what Bush did, you cannot laud him without condemning Reagan, too.

Posted by: demo kid on September 27, 2009 11:05 PM
6. Actually Demo Kid, if you read Reagans writing and perhaps think back, the fact is that Reagan wasn't the guy you want to paint him to be.

He was a former actor and President of the Screen Actors Guild. He had worked with a lot of gay people years before it became fashionable and that particular phobia wasn't a big one for him.

Reagan wasn't a big believer is having the government throw taxpayer money at medical research for just about any reason. He believed that it tended to build an industry around the problem rather than getting it solved. (Which is sort of what the cancer treatment industry has become in many ways IMHO.)

Posted by: johnny on September 28, 2009 05:17 AM
7. @6: He may not have had a "personal phobia", but that's irrelevant: his administration sure did. Why else would he tie the hands of his own Surgeon General, keeping Koop from officially commenting on the problem until 1986?

Rewrite history to suit your needs, but it doesn't change the truth.

Posted by: demo kid on September 28, 2009 07:29 AM
8. This is the usual pattern. Liberals create some event that is supposed to be one thing everyone can support, then turn it into a liberal political slam-fest against Republicans. Never mind the truth! Paul Wellstone's memorial service is an example of how EVERYTHING is about politics with this crowd, even a man's untimely death.
They'd rather turn down Republican money than give them one single shread of credit for actually doing something about HIV/AIDS. Bush not only spend more than Bill Clinton on HIV/AIDS in the US, he also gave BILLIONS to Africa to stem AIDS there too. He also reduced nuke warheads, increased world income levels, and expanded literacy.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/18/judging-bush-by-statistics-proves-elusiv-19442872/

Yet all we ever hear from the left about Bush is he didn't do anything at all for the poor, for Aids, for peace. You people on the left are ignorant and pathetic. Really. Why should any conservatives want to help you with anything? Whenever they do, you just turn on them like jackals, lie about them, and ignore reality.

Posted by: scott on September 28, 2009 07:34 AM
9. This thread so wonderfully and ironically proves my point. I didn't mention anything about Reagan and barely mentioned either Bush or Obama since the main point of this post was that the fight against AIDS shouldn't be politicized, yet what's the first post? demo kid slamming Reagan.

dk? How does Reagan's lack of support for AIDS have anything to do with the fact that an event yesterday that should have been about coming together, was, at times, turned into a Democratic Party rally?

Stay on topic, as you so aptly pointed out on the ELF post below.

Posted by: MarkGriswold on September 28, 2009 07:36 AM
10. #7 Yeah, the government was keeping AIDS under wraps until 1986 and did nothing to stop gay men from dying. You really believe that?

A few facts easily gleaned from the internet on the subject of government involvement in AIDS in the early 80's:

The CDC was fully engaged in the disease in 1981 at a time when there were a handful of cases.

In 1983, the Secretary of Health and Human Services Margret Heckler (part of that Reagan cabinet that you've said was silent) announced that they had isolated the virus that cause AIDS. Also by 1983, they were closing the gay bathhouses in 1983, by order of the Department of Public Health. In 1985, the Government licensed the first tests for AIDS testing.

There were less than 20,000 cases of AIDS being tracked in the U.S. by the time all this happened, and the big public events like Rock Hudson and Ryan White dying of AIDS hadn't happened yet. Already at this point, there was a lot of information on the airwaves from the CDC as well as coordinated efforts between the U.S. governmetn and private organizations as varied as the PTA and Playboy Magazine.

So, no, those mean old Reaganites weren't handcuffing the federal government until 1986.

Jeez, Demo Kid, Reagans been dead a while now. Can't you lefties just concentrate on vilifying and hating on live people like Glenn Beck instead of working so hard to try to trash the reputations of people who've been dead more than a decade?

Posted by: Johnny on September 28, 2009 08:18 AM
11. @9: How does Reagan's lack of support for AIDS have anything to do with the fact that an event yesterday that should have been about coming together, was, at times, turned into a Democratic Party rally?

Good to see that you agree about his lack of support. I'm stating that AIDS activists have a LOT to be suspicious about with respect to Republicans and how they've historically dealt with HIV -- pretty much as you just noted. And hey, since the Republican Party certainly doesn't mind using many of the groups actively involved with AIDS awareness as punching bags, I don't really have a lot of sympathy for wayward social conservatives that whine about making things "political".

@10: First of all, stop lying about what I said. If, as president, you are facing a rather scary new disease and you create an "Executive Task Force" to deal with it, aren't you derelict in your duties if you exclude your own Surgeon General? For that matter, why would your administration state specifically that the press wouldn't be allowed to ask him questions about it? Koop saved thousands of lives with his public health report in 1986, while Reagan dithered before that and said he could sympathize with parents that didn't want their kids in the same classroom as HIV-positive children.

And the French found HIV, not the US.

Again, I have no problem with Republicans saying that Bush did a lot for AIDS in Africa. I'll even go so far as to say that many conservative church groups do good work with dealing with HIV in these countries. (Even if abstinence-based education is a foolish way of approaching it, if you ask me.) But if Republicans are being truthful and honest, though, they need to own up to the fact that they sat on their hands because the disease dealt primarily with folks that social conservatives didn't like quite that much.

Take responsibility for your actions. If the absurd wingnut conservatives on here can blame the modern Democratic for slavery, I definitely don't have a problem returning the favor about something much more recent, relevant and reasonable.

Posted by: demo kid on September 28, 2009 03:13 PM
12. Whatever you say, demo kid. You win. We all bow to your vastly superior intellect.

Posted by: MarkGriswold on September 28, 2009 03:21 PM
13. Great point Mark. Obviously liberals can't argue politics and policy without it being a complete display or arrogance. That's a sane way of making your point.

For your substance, to talk about AIDS walk in the context of a politics-free event seems naive. This isn't a baseball game. From sex ed, to condoms in Africa, to needle exchanges, to gay rights -- there are policy and political ramifications. In fact, it would be almost a dereliction to not wonder about these things.

Though I do agree Bush did a great job with Africa AIDS money.

Posted by: John Jensen on September 28, 2009 06:42 PM
14. I'm not saying that the topic of AIDS and the fight to eradicate it is politics free, but an AIDS walk, where everyone is there for one purpose: to raise money to help victims of AIDS, is not the place for those discussions, especially when it's as divisive as saying "we've FINALLY elected...", thereby completely dismissing anyone in the audience that supported Bush (or Clinton, I might add).

Posted by: MarkGriswold on September 28, 2009 06:54 PM
15. Mark, John Jensen is on the right track here. There was a time early on -- and if anyone reading this is under 30 or so, you might not remember it -- when the entire subject of AIDS was *very* political and there was little or no possibility of having a happy, non-controversial, non-political, walk in the park. It is a measure of how far we have come that we can have an event like the AIDS walk and everyone is happy about it. And in part it took some people taking an unpopular political stance and riling people up to get where we are. I'm not saying anything and everything is really appropriate at every event. But remember that false notions of propriety may help hold back discssions that need to happen.

Posted by: Quincy on September 28, 2009 09:53 PM
16. Mark & Quincy, you guys both make good points.

Posted by: John Jensen on September 29, 2009 04:33 PM
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