July 14, 2009
Chuckles From The Seattle Times

Today's editorial has two howlers, so amazing that they left me wondering whether the editorial writers read their own newspaper.

Even the Obama administration, which has been reluctant to second-guess its predecessor in the White House, is recognizing that serious questions about past anti-terror policies cannot be ignored.

Until now, all the generic excuses and talking points have been employed by Democrats and Republicans alike.

(Emphasis added.)

Did the editorial writers notice when Obama went on his apology tours?  This president is the least reluctant to "second-guess" his predecessors, especially his immediate predecessor, that I have seen in my lifetime.  (Perhaps ever, though you would have to know more about some of the 19th century presidents than I do to be certain.)

In the war on terror — which we are now supposed to call something else — Obama has adopted some of the more sensible Bush policies, without admitting that, and simultaneously blamed the Bush administration endlessly.  If you are like me, you can admire the political dexterity in that combination, while being appalled by its intellectual dishonesty.

Actually, Democrats, in an effort to protect our failed Speaker, Nancy Pelosi, have been raising these issues for weeks — with the help, naturally, of the New York Times, and other "mainstream" news organizations.  Republicans have mostly laughed at their efforts so far, though many worry, as I do (and as some of the more responsible Democrats do) that this will handicap us in the war on terror.  Or, to be more blunt, will get Americans, and others, most of them moderate Muslims, killed.

Cross posted at Jim Miller on Politics.

(You can read the entire editorial if you want, but, if you do, I would suggest that you prepare for it by reading this Andrew McCarthy article first.)

Note to commenters:  Please stay on topic and keep your comments civil.  In particular, avoid personal insults to other commenters.

In this post, the topic is those two statements in the Seattle Times.  Is Obama reluctant to "second-guess" his predecessor?  Have Republicans and Democrats behaved alike on this issue?

Posted by Jim Miller at July 14, 2009 02:59 PM | Email This
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1. I think in some regard the line about Obama being reluctant to "second-guess" is only accurate based on context.. If the context is action, then yes I would say in some cases he has been reluctant. If the context is words, he's been anything but.

Posted by: RookieRick on July 14, 2009 04:05 PM
2. One of the biggest hoots of the Obama administration has been the decision to do a SURGE in Afghanistan. O was SO against it for Iraq, but of course got proven SO wrong about that. Now he's all "We're going to do a surge--I mean increase our numbers in Afghanistan..." and we're all supposed to pretend we don't notice the massive irony of it all. No peeps from the trolls about a "surge". Now it's all good, just because Obama is the one wanting it. Hey O--don't think we didn't notice~

Posted by: Michele on July 14, 2009 06:47 PM
3. With all due respect Jim, by the time you finish buckling the buckles and snapping the snaps on the restraints over our posts, all you leave me with is...

Yes

Posted by: Alphabet Soup on July 14, 2009 07:07 PM
4. (Of course I meant it in the nicest possible way!)

Posted by: Alphabet Soup on July 14, 2009 07:09 PM
5. I agree with the Times, too. Given the rhetoric of the campaign, and the vindictive attitude many Obama supporters clung to, I would have suspected that Obama would have been much worse than he is.

Look at Guantanamo. He issued an executive order stating the prison will be closed (placates his base), Congress refuses to fund, and no action is taken, or probably will be taken. The ongoing drawdown in Iraq was negotiated by the Bush team. Policy in Afghanistan is largely what you would imagine any Republican would have pursued.

My biggest complaint about him is the spending, which, we all know is also a doubling down of Bush policies.

Honestly, if I didn't know better, I'd say this was Bush's third term. Only this time, conservatives have license to get vocal about policies that secretly angered them for the first eight years.

Posted by: AD on July 15, 2009 12:15 AM
6. fyi - slightly off topic,
but the Democratic streak of winning elections continued yesterday as Democrat Judy Chu won a special election for Congress in LA.

Strategically and tactically Republican candidates continue to be ineffective, and the results are increasing Democratic majorities.

Posted by: MikeBoyScout on July 15, 2009 07:45 AM
7. Agreed, that is truly bizarre. Obama criticizes the Bush administration so much, it's as if he's still campaigning (he actually ran against Bush, not McCain). That his approval continues to drop suggests that more and more Americans are beginning to hold him accountable for his own presidency, and not just in comparison with the failings of the Bush presidency, real and imagined. Hopefully this downward trend continues.

Posted by: Gizzur on July 15, 2009 07:47 AM
8. Mike, you are a terrible spinner.

That special election replaced another Democrat, so they didn't expand any majority.

And the Democrat only scored 62% of the vote in a district that is 75%-80% Democratic.

Posted by: Karen on July 15, 2009 08:57 AM
9. I guess the Seattle Times must protect Obama at all costs.

They must have heard all the boos he got yesterday at the All-Star Game when he threw that namby-pamby pitch.

Posted by: Dave on July 15, 2009 09:00 AM
10. Or a third option, poll numbers are dropping so Obama brings out his old straw man to whip up the crowds ala Alinsky Rules.

Posted by: swatter on July 15, 2009 09:04 AM
11. @ 6 Mike B.S.: ...but the Democratic streak of winning elections continued yesterday...

Hey Mike, you may want to read the story in your own link before gloating.

From the article:

Democrats hold a 2-1 registration edge in the district, and the [Democrat] party has held the seat for decades.

As for the Times and the rest of the fourth estate in this country, journalism as it should be is dead and has been for some time. Gone are the Eward R. Murrow's replaced by the Jayson Blair's in newsrooms nationwide.

Posted by: Rick D. on July 15, 2009 09:10 AM
12. @8 Karen on July 15, 2009 08:57 AM
@11 Rick D. on July 15, 2009 09:10 AM

I don't concede any district based upon voter registration, else I'd be accepting minority status for Republicans forever.

At some point Republicans need to be able to effectively contest in a special election regardless of registration disadvantages and the party of the former member.

Behaving like Democrats either in policy substance or political strategy & tactics has been an loser, and continues to be a loser for Republicans.

Posted by: MikeBoyScout on July 15, 2009 09:21 AM
13. Well, Mike, Republicans hust won a special election in Alabama yesterday.

Phil Williams trounced a Democrat winning in House District 6, which means the Republicans picked up a seat there.

Posted by: Karen on July 15, 2009 09:35 AM
14. Behaving like Democrats either in policy substance or political strategy & tactics has been an loser, and continues to be a loser for Republicans.

Right, Mike. If anything, the Republican party should learn from that erroneous thinking during the time of Republican control of the House, Senate and WH. Fortunately (or rather unfortunately for the American people), Obama spending policies are Bush's on steroids and will usher in yet another wave of Republicans in 2010. Uncontrolled and unsustainable fiscal spending by the Democrats will almost certainly have them on the outside looking in next 2 election cycles if history is any indicator.

Posted by: Rick D. on July 15, 2009 09:53 AM
15. Perhaps I missed when Bush tried to trash the economy with Cap and Tax, or destroy our health care system, or overspend more than in the previous 233 years, or apologize to the world for Clinton's administration, or ignore the War on Terror... uh.. I mean Overseas Contingency Operation.

If so, then I guess the Obamessiah has not second-guessed his predecessor...

Right.

Posted by: yaddacubed on July 15, 2009 09:53 AM
16. I had a good laugh yesterday, up on Camano, Home of Mary Margaret Never Get enough of your money Haugan. A large Septic Pumping truck passed my house, and stenciled on the back of the truck was "Caution, this vehicle may at any time be hauling political promises"

It was befitting of both Washington's at this stage under this stooge.

Posted by: GS on July 15, 2009 10:31 AM
17. Oh well, Jim. You tried.

Posted by: swatter on July 15, 2009 02:04 PM
18. #9: Didn't know Obama got booed at the All-Star game. I'd have been sorely tempted to join in, but I would probably have instead done the slow clap with the disgusted look on my face.
At least when President Bush threw out the pitch at the game just before his second election, he didn't throw like a pantywaist like Obama did!

To anyone who saw the Obama pitching footage on youtube: I'ts official. Obama is NOT cool.

Posted by: Michele on July 15, 2009 02:06 PM
19. Well... He pitches like he bowls.

Posted by: hinton on July 15, 2009 04:06 PM
20. Oh, gee, well, I sure hope Obama is cool!

Jim, I think Obama has diverged from Bush more substantially on some issues than others. Clearly Bush never tried to tackle health care, where it is Obama's first legislative priority past the stimulus.

However, on foreign policy/terror there has not been significant divergence. We've had one executive order about GITMO and a troop increase in Afghanistan (which he ran on -- Michele must have not been paying attention during the election).

In terms of language, however, Obama has been very willing to diverge from his predecessor. You almost imply this to be a bad thing. We must judge the quality of his predecessor, not just the fact that his predecessor proceeded him.

And, well, Bush was terrible. Which is why Obama won a campaign on a message of change. I would prefer more change on issues such as gay rights and don't ask, don't tell, but on Iraq and GITMO? Well, minor tweaks and advancements are all that's needed now. The fact is that Bush took too long to recognize his errors in these areas, and McCain suffered a lot of the consequences.

Posted by: John Jensen on July 15, 2009 04:57 PM
21. Ha--speaking of the All-star game, look up "Obama's Mom Jeans" on youtube for some surprising CNN coverage of the jeans O wore to throw that pitch. Hilarious! Yes, it is indeed official: Obama's NOT cool.

Posted by: Michele on July 16, 2009 12:52 AM
22. Which is why Obama won a campaign on a message of change.

...and when American's wake up to realize his policies will leave them with only lint and small change in their pockets, they'll send him packing (ala Jimmy "the nut" Carter) in 2012 back to the chicago cesspool from which he came.

Thanks for the tip on the "mom jeans" CNN story, michele. That was quite entertaining and also shows a different angle on the pitch/shotput attempt by the oval office Erkel.

Posted by: Rick D. on July 16, 2009 05:37 AM
23. As a guy who played baseball and slowpitch for many years, I too laughed at Obama's girly effort at throwing out the first pitch at the All Star game. On second thought....sorry girls, as 99% of the high school girls fastpitch teams I've seen would be embarrassed to have players who threw like Obama. What a metrosexual weenie.

Posted by: Saltherring on July 16, 2009 08:10 AM
24. At #4 Watch it Soup.

I have the feeling he could close this thread down anytime.
Maybe if a conservative says something edgy or controversial that is not quite "nice" enough.

Here lets test . . .
Bush was a good President, Bush was a good President. . .

Posted by: Amused by Liberal Sensibilities on July 16, 2009 01:46 PM
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