February 20, 2009
State Policy Twist of the Day

From the P-I's story on the latest state budget projections:

...Democratic lawmakers are seriously considering drawing up a list of desirable programs that are on the chopping block and asking voters to approve new taxes to save them. [Senate Ways & Means Committee Chairwoman Margarita] Prentice said the Democratic governor, who has pledged not to increase taxes, doesn't like that idea, but the Legislature could put a tax referendum on the statewide ballot via a majority vote in both the House and Senate, without Gregoire's signature. [emphasis added]

That dynamic puts a real onus on Gregoire's creative use of the threat of the veto pen - publicly or privately - for other components of the budget in order to minimize such a tax increase...if she really wants to make a run at that.

Posted by Eric Earling at February 20, 2009 09:31 AM | Email This
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1. They'll put up a cut in the State Highway Budget so it will be guaranteed to pass, as opposed to cutting staff by 10%. Shell game is the M.O. of Gregoire. Will the Republicans stand firm?

Posted by: swatter on February 20, 2009 09:31 AM
2. Talk about political suicide. Politicians may be stupid, but I doubt they're are that stupid.

Posted by: Cato on February 20, 2009 09:45 AM
3. Had someone suggest that our state's budget crisis is both a Democrat and Republican problem. I pointed out the following:

* Democrats have completely controlled both the Legislature and Executive Branch of Washington for 12 of the last 24 years, including the last 4 years since 2004.

* Republicans have not controlled both the Legislature and Executive Branch even once during this period, but you have to go back to 1982 for the last time Republicans had total control of Washington government and policy.

* Of the 12 years Democrats haven't controlled the entire government, they have controlled the Executive Branch all 12 years and either the House or the Senate 10 of the years. Three of those years the House was divided equally, where one more vote would have given the Democrats complete control of government.

* Republicans have controlled the Legislature for only one biennium in the last 24 years, while the smallest growth of state spending in the last decade occurred during the only time Republicans controlled the State Senate, where the Democrats still controlled the House and Governor's office.

I asked my friend to back-up his charge of Republican responsibility. I'm waiting.

Posted by: Reality on February 20, 2009 10:17 AM
4. Veto? Ha! Seriously, I'm laughing. I think there's a better chance you'll see Obama at the next NRA convention.

It's the plan Gregoire had all along. Run on 'no new taxes'. Let the legislature put the things everyone wants in a new tax package on the ballot. Run again in 2012 and say she didn't raise taxes.

Posted by: Palouse on February 20, 2009 10:25 AM
5. Who defines "desirable programs"? Are we talking Medic 1 or the needle exchange program? They always have a way of selecting the things people really want and need for cutting, and we don't get to vote on the Barbara Streisand programs that taxpayers shouldn't be funding in the first place. It's a ruse people!

Posted by: scott on February 20, 2009 10:25 AM
6. You know, like it or not, at least California fought it out and settled their budget mess. What is it with these gutless taxrapists we have in Olympia?

Here is a message for every Democrat in Olympia:

If you don't have the money, cut spending. That doesn't mean reduce the growth of spending, that means spend less than you spent last biennium. And don't start with the stuff this state demands, like education and law enforcement. Start with all that crap you're too ashamed to admit to be wasting our money on.

Don't punt this into another blackmailing of the voters in November for more money or threats of catastrophe. If you're worthy of leading, then lead! If you can't make tough decisions and say no to the addicts you've created who vote for you, then quit and let some real leaders fix this mess you've created.

Posted by: Reality on February 20, 2009 10:44 AM
7. Ahhhhhhhhhhh....the old TAX EXTORTION Game. Rather than put say Gregoire's Office Budget on the Ballot...or the Legistlature's pork, let's find the most gut-wrenching, heart-throbbing things to cut and put those on the ballot!

Ain't gonna work in a deep recession.
The Battle-lines are drawn:

Hard-working, tax-paying responsible citizens VS.
Government Employees and Losers

Folks are sick of supporting bloated bureaucracies and over-reaching government. They are sick of paying for others laziness and irresponsibility.

This Tax Campaign will get real ugly, real fast.

And where is Gregoire (aka Deer in the Headlights) who made this worse with her rampant overspending and failure to make any meaningful cuts...even to this day! She should hold a press conference and say "Read my Lips, No New Taxes!"
Sound familiar??

Obviously this whole scheme is an orchestrated sham to insulate Gregoire from her campaign promises. If Gregoire was sincere, she would be out front saying NO NEW TAXES!! But she's not.

Spread the word--
VOTE HELL NO on all new taxes.
Ain't no one gonna die.
We need State Employees to take an immediate 20% cut in wages and benefits to mirror the impact on their "constituents" plus 10,000 lay-offs.

Would have been 2,000 had Gregoire not hired all those folks and given all those raises in the face of a recession.

This is the Civil War regarding the Role of Government in our lives.
We have the stick...it's called TAXES.
NO MORE!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on February 20, 2009 11:08 AM
8. scott and Mr. Cynical, how come I didn't see you at the Gregoire School of Management Seminar? I see you learnded though.

Posted by: swatter on February 20, 2009 11:12 AM
9. As this is no time to be isolationists on an international basis, so too does it apply to inter and intra State. Those who have must share more with the have-nots. When you leave this planet it matters not how much you've managed to accumulate it matters mostly how much help you were to your 'neighbor'. Those who are espousing 'I've got mine, I earned it let others do the same' philosophy are not seeing the BIG picture. It's time to come together and sacrifice for the benefit of all.

Posted by: humanbeing on February 20, 2009 11:25 AM
10. humanbeing, you go first!

Seriously though, why is America full of have-nots? And how do have-nots seem to afford cars, flat panel TVs, and cell phones? Why aren't all Americans being educated so they can get good jobs? Why does government extend the hand with other people's money making more and more Americans dependent on government?

The liberal idea of compassion is backwards. Coercing people into dependency is not compassion. It is breeding real pain and suffering. Real compassion is tough-love. It's loving your fellow man enough to say no to the addict and help them shed their dependency. But what the liberals are doing is the exact opposite.

Posted by: Reality on February 20, 2009 11:37 AM
11. OK, 'human being', I'll see you your greedy Those who have must share more with the have-nots and raise you one. When the single-party government of Washington State and King County graciously bows and shares half of its overbearing political powers (you know, 'tyranny'?) with the party out of power, I'll take your plea seriously.

Posted by: Insufficiently Sensitive on February 20, 2009 11:40 AM
12. #9 You should seriously think twice about posting after having apparently 'toked-up'. :)

Posted by: Duffman on February 20, 2009 11:53 AM
13. It's time to come together and sacrifice for the benefit of all. - humanbeing

Take your collectivism and stick it.

Posted by: jimg on February 20, 2009 11:58 AM
14. Hey, humanandincompassionatebeing, we tried and seen Communism; we don't like it. It is worse than the system you see now.

Posted by: swatter on February 20, 2009 12:06 PM
15. humanbeing - I organize the United Way of King County sign ups at my office every year. My office is made up of largely Obama supporters, with some of us conservatives sprinkled in. I can tell you with certainty that the people who sign up every year to have paycheck deductions to the United Way in my office are 3 to 1 conservative.

I prefer to help those less fortunate through charitable giving, not government, where it's wasted on fat pensions and bureaucracy.

Posted by: Palouse on February 20, 2009 12:14 PM
16. That 'the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts' is a truism. Human inter-dependence is what HE has been trying to teach us. It's easy to ridicule those of us who think this way but you do so at your own soul's peril. One day boundaries will be blurred and mankind will realize how much we need one another. Somewhat of a revelation to some presently, but but one day it will be clearly realized and this planet will have peace and tranquility.

Posted by: humanbeing on February 20, 2009 12:15 PM
17. HE, Obama, right?

Posted by: Scaramouche on February 20, 2009 12:34 PM
18. humanbeing, are you actually arguing that God wants us all to be communists? You talk about peril, where is communism promoting improvement of life? I'm sorry, but boundaries don't define societies. Principles and faith does. We have incredible diversity in America, more than anywhere else on the planet. And the only thing I'm seeing is government erasing all that diversity and growing a dependency class that government would love to see overtake the nation.

I agree that there is a future where we might realize how much we need one another, but that future is one where we all live in shared misery because we let governments tell us how to live, destroyed productivity by punishing success, and turned us all into addicts of government hand-outs.

I'll tell you, you put 20 dogs in a pit and cut off their food supply and you'll see peace and tranquility. It will come after most have been killed by the others and the few remaining die of starvation. Yes, there will then be peace and tranquility.

Posted by: Reality on February 20, 2009 12:42 PM
19. To quote the well known Mayor of Chicago - Daly when referring to then Gov Blagojevich: "Coo-Coo" :)

Posted by: Duffman on February 20, 2009 12:45 PM
20. humanbeing--
Don't think anyone here is gonna buy your "greater good" argument. It's kind of like you KLOWNS want to hypnotize us right thinkers with this group-think BS. Someday you'll grow up and wise up and realize how stupid it sounds. We are human beings...created to have free choice in decisions we make by Our Creator.

Most all of the "group-thinkers' I have met are Atheist Progressives. They worship themselves and their belief that they know what is best 100% of the time for the greater good. Are you an Atheist hb??

Bad try stoner==No Sale here.

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on February 20, 2009 02:13 PM
21. humanbeing sounds like one of those self-absorbed intellectuals coming out of the Unitarian Universalist cult. His kumbaya like rhetoric of groupthink is like the garbage the UU's spew.

Posted by: dude on February 20, 2009 02:19 PM
22. Everyone, understand humanbeing for who he/she is. This is the mindset of the left; not necessarily a bad person, but thoroughly trained by the liberal professors and media experts from the left to think so little of people and this nation. He/she has been taught that sacrifice is required to save the world. And this is the thinking that Obama and the left is counting on to manage the forced sacrifice of America's economic machine to support those that can't or won't do for themselves, but whom the left relies on for their power.

It's not the people that need to be defeated, but the destructive teachings being pumped into them.

Posted by: Reality on February 20, 2009 02:44 PM
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