January 16, 2009
Sherril Huff admits she didn't move to King County until after she filed for office
Contrary to today's Seattle Times report that
King County Elections Director Sherril Huff is eligible to run in the Feb. 3 election to keep her job, the county Canvassing Board ruled Thursday.
The Canvassing Board ruled no such thing, at least not in their written ruling
. The Canvassing Board only agreed that Huff is currently
a resident and validly registered voter in King County. But that wasn't seriously in dispute. The main question regarding Huff's eligiblity is whether she was a King County resident at the time that she filed on Dec. 11.
Clifford asked the canvassing board to determine the date when Huff became a King County resident. The Canvassing Board ruling declines to make that determination. Nor does it consider the question of Huff's eligibility as a candidate.
But Huff apparently admitted that she wasn't living in King County when she filed:
...Huff said, she'd moved into her new home Dec. 16 or 17.
Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at January 16, 2009
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1. So what does this mean? Does her filing stand?
2. She's a Democrat. (Or perhaps a "Non-partisan" member of the ruling machine.) Of course it stands.
3. If one need not prove his citizenship to become President of the United States, why would a little thing like this be a problem?
4. #3: Exactly! :)
Remember that this is the Kingdom of Sims we live in. References to other "Kings" are only more invention for the public perception of this government.
Anyone who thinks the law will decide this doesn't understand where we live. No one in a position of authority in this government is there unless they have demonstrated their loyalty to the real King, and this canvassing board, or any other authority with jurisdiction over this situation, will not let the law get in the way of seating the King's choice.
And if I'm wrong on this, it will be for a reason none of us peasants will ever be privy to.
Speaking of conflicts of interest, I wonder if Huff has recused herself from her Director's position while her department administers this election? You don't think that as director she might have influence in a race where the candidate that simply gets the most votes wins? Six candidates in a race with nothing else on the ballot that could be won by someone with 17% of the vote? How hard would it be for professionals like Sims and Huff to steal this one?
6. ...and can any one tell me why a naturalized citizen of America doesn't have all the rights and privileges of a so-called 'natural born' American. I could never understand that? :)
7. "...and can any one tell me why a naturalized citizen of America doesn't have all the rights and privileges of a so-called 'natural born' American.
Because that was the crieteria established by the founding fathers of this Nation as outlined in the U.S. Constitution....you may have heard of them/it...not that it matters as Obama did an end around it anyway despite being a "consitutional professor".
inre: Huff - I second Al @ 2
8. That s/be changed, it's archaic reasoning you're either an American or not...period; no fudging! :) Don't you agree?
Huff has *not* recused herself from supervising her own election as of 1pm yesterday - as apparently the King Co. Ethics Office is ok with it. She really, really, really promise to run a fair election, though.
10. @8- No, I don't. I'm a constitutionalist that thinks the less you mess with the document the better chances of this Republic surviving for another 200 years. Shortsighted, whimsical attitudes like "it's archaic" are the ones that brought us the 18th amendment and the 21st amemendment which repealed it. Pretty soon it starts looking like the IRS tax code that everyone now complains is "too complicated and should be simplified". Wouldn't you agree :?
11. If any one, and by any one I mean outside of the current influence that manipulate King County, honestly looked at what transpires within, it would make IL look like a bunch of boy scouts.
The "inner circle" of Sims is tighter than Ms. Piggy's prom dress.
12. As far as president is concerned, I agree with the constitution that require only natural born citizen to become the president. I am a naturalized citizen, and I simply cannot state that I have zero affinity to my country of origin. Granted, there will be some of that with the natural born first-generation (i.e. parents were not natural born), but that is not the same as that of those immigrated.
This is off-topic, but not so far when you equate the eligibility of Huff to Constitutional requirements that have been addressed here.
In America, a regular citizen has all the rights that a natural born citizen does except one as defined by the Constitution. The Founding Fathers feared that a president could have split loyalties to other countries if born, or raised in another country, so they defined one right for natural born citizens that regular citizens would not have.
This issue is relevant today, because we all know there are cases before the Supreme Court challenging Barack Obama's eligibility to be president. Has Obama displayed loyalties to Indonesia where he attended an Indonesian-only school as a child? Not that I'm aware. Has he displayed a extraordinary interest in Kenya, though, where it has been alleged his paternal grandmother has said she witnessed his birth, and where his father lived? In fact, it has been reported that he was very involved in the campaign of failed Kenyan presidential candidate Raila Odinga in 2006.
Proof Obama backed Odinga
Then there is the fact that he has a large family there in Kenya today, so concerns over loyalties extend even beyond natural born status. What would Obama do in a critical foreign policy decision that placed US interests at odds against the interests of so much family? What if it was a trivial decision, but one that would benefit his extensive Kenyan family? It's a silly point, but it does highlight why our Founding Fathers worked to minimize this threat to American interests.
Our Founding Fathers intentionally made a distinction between a regular citizen and a natural born citizen. And if people don't like it, then they can work to change the Constitution as is their right. But until that occurs, the Constitution is the law and even the Messiah shouldn't be immune from it. Just as the law must be honored here in Sims... I mean King County.
It seems to me (as an outsider), if her name is on the ballot, then she can get elected. However, if elected she cannot serve her position as she doesn't qualify under the King County Charter. The question would be whether she would not be allowed to take the oath of office, or whether someone has to file suit to prevent her from taking the oath of office. If no one does and she then takes the oath of office, who has authority to remove her from office and does that take someone filing suit?
My point being, that once she is on the ballot there is no course. Also, if she wins the election the Second place candidate does not become the winner in any case, she is the actual winner (though it looks like she cannot serve).
15. She's not getting my vote.
16. re #14: If you are correct and she gets elected, then she cannot take office. But then Sims gets to the fill the office, and he fill it with - you guessed it - Huff. :-o
We have a president-elect who may or may not be a native born American citizen.
Hundreds of millions of dollars reportedly used in the Obama campaign were raised from questionable sources, more than likely foreign.
ACORN reportedly registered thousands and thousands of people who are not eligible (non-citizens, the dead, duplicate voters, etc) to vote. ACORN is heavily backed by the Democrat Party.
Democrats have apparently stolen a senatorial election in Minnesota, much the same way they stole the governors race in our own state in 2004.
The rule of law is dying in America, as Democrats do whatever they please, with seemingly no repercussions.
18. Argh, time for a revolution, tea in the Harbor anyone?
So, when did Huff buy her new home?
And if that was before Dec. 11th, does that make her eligible?
Come on folks, don't you think this Huff business is just a little silly?
20. She is not buying she is renting.
Huff owns a home in Kitsap county has been commuting since she came to work at the county.
The owner of the home in Rainier Beach according to KC records is out of state!
Interesting to know how the communication took place between here and Boston where the owner works.
This is all BS, she is lying which is the normal way King County does things!
We seem to have so many election laws yet nobody has authority to enforce them. Unless a Republican violates one, then everyone seems to have jurisdiction.
22. Because Duffman, in theory you could have then had someone "flee" the USSR or Nazi Germany, then run for president 10 years later. Or nowadays, someone from Iran. Or Venezuela. Or China. Do you really want someone who's only been in this country for 10 years running it? Heck, even the natural born have to wait 35 years.
And if she rented like the rest of those that do she paid for all of December, making her a King County resident as of the December 1.
Stefan (and all the rest of King County voters) has good reason to distrust Huff, Simms and anybody else associated with the King County Dem machine. But this is not the issue to center on. It makes him look petty.
If Huff wins we all watch. Eventually a close election will come and the machine will once again pull a fast one. If we have been watching we will have a better chance of catching them with the evidence before the trial.
If Huff doesn't win lets hope the margin is wide.
Um. Call me crazy, but they appear to have ruled that In re Schoessler does not apply because that was a challenge to a right to serve as an elected. But ... that's what this is about.
If he filed it as a mere voter registration challenge, then perhaps it could be re-filed as an elected official residency challenge.
25. Pudge -- Right. It was filed as a voter registration challenge. Clifford also filed a separate suit challenging her candidacy in Superior Court.
The way folks talk about residency is a hoot, as if a residence has to be some holy temple that hovers a bit above the surrounding landscape.
Fact is, you can claim 1st and Yesler as your residence with a mailing address at any nearby (or distant) MailBoxes'R'Us. Washington law allows US citizens to claim their parents' last Washington address as their residence, even if they were born in NY prior to the family sailing away, never to return. There are members of the military specifying addresses in KC that they haven't lived at in a decade.
In reality, Huff met the residency requirement once she proclaimed it, even if she never slept a night in her Rainier Beach rental. Even if she never rented it.
She could just as well have claimed Seward Park as her residence and had her mail delivered in Bremerton. It wouldn't be be politically correct, but I don't think her registration or candidacy could be successfully challenged
27. #22 & #10 I agree (to an extent) our Constitution s/be be rarely modified but this one begs of change. You are either an American will all rights and privleges afforded or you are not. In my case I served in the US Military as a Canadian and I didn't take out American citizenship until I got out of the US Army. Then, studied up and went through a glorious 4th of July naturalization process and was (and still am) one very proud puppy. But I could never understand why this Constitutional provision wasn't changed. Yes, ANY American could run for POTUS...and what's wrong with that. We all know the $funds it takes and the politicing it takes to be a viable candidate, so it's not like some haphazard candidate will even have a chance.
28. I just got my ballot. Other than the disqualification of Huff and Irons, and my familiarity with Roach (not a big fan), does anyone have any opinion (written tongue-in-cheek) as to who to vote for to ensure fair elections?
29. @ 27~ there are bigger fish to fry, my friend. The only Constitutional amemendment that should see the light of day is a balanced budget amemdment that will reign in the ridiculous spending of Congress and quit mortgaging our children and grand children's futures. I find it quite asinine to be navel-gazing about such trivial matters such as "natural born citizen" vs. "naturalized citizen" when there are more important matters to be dealing with as it relates to the future of this country and its inhabitants.
30. The question is not IF there will be an interdiction of Obama’s Presidency by the Supreme Court, the questions are WHEN and HOW that interdiction will transpire — that is, if the USA is to continue as the Constitutional Republic that now exists.
31. The question is not IF there will be an interdiction of Obamaï¿½s Presidency by the Supreme Court, the questions are WHEN and HOW that interdiction will transpire ï¿½ that is, if the USA is to continue as the Constitutional Republic that now exists.
Maybe it's time to take a minimalist, utilitarian view of this. Either laws mean something, or they don't. If you have them on the books and no one claims any authority to enforce them, then why have them in the first place? Just do whatever it takes to get them off the books and ditch the excess baggage.
This is what people in King County, WA state, and the country have to decide. And it is applicable to a county sheriff's election right up to the presidency.
As of now residency requirements are a part of election law in the local election. The natural born citizen requirement is a part of the Constitution for the national election. If you don't want them on the books, or if they are effectively non-operable, then there is a process available to remove those statutes. But until then they must have meaning, through recognition and the will to obey them, with the incentive (threat) of enforcement as the means of implementation. Otherwise, you have anarchy.
33. Jeez, It must suck to be a rabid right winger these days. Would you like a little cheese with that whine.
34. It doesn't suck to ask legitimate questions, to have a concern for the integrity of the process and principle of self-governance. What does suck it to blindly suck the Kool-Aid. Remember "dissent is patriotic"?
35. Does anyone know...Has Sherril Huff still failed to recuse herself from supervising the special election?