January 09, 2009
P-I all but dead in print form

It's official.

Given the current inability of the Times to offer reliable, unique content online, that will leave a bit of a market void to be filled on a number of topics - such as sports and editorial opinion.

It will be interesting to see what sort of digital-only organization emerges from this.

Posted by Eric Earling at January 09, 2009 06:11 PM | Email This
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1. Cellular coyote is howling at the edge of their fingerprints.

Posted by: Doc-T on January 9, 2009 06:19 PM
2. King5.com and others provide all the content any news organization of print ever thought of providing. There is NO market void whatsoever. No, the old print media will not capture any subscribers by going online especially, when they are so far behind the curve to begin with, let alone, competing with online content that is provided absolutely FREE. The old print daily media will continue to drop into the dust and will never rise again in any venue.

Posted by: Daniel on January 9, 2009 06:22 PM
3.
Face it...the portal is dead. The Web offers multiple channels to any content.

Google is selling for 3/8 of its high.
MSFT is sellng for 1/3 of its 2000 high.
Ebay is in trouble.
Yahoo is on the chopping block.

All you need to deliver content is a web site and some good writing and good focused content.

You can run http on Windows, Linux or OSX.

No one can monopolize information...YET!

Posted by: John Bailo on January 9, 2009 06:30 PM
4. I don't know why online newspaper sites don't use a user-ranked article system, similar to Digg.com to determine what makes it to the front page, and then let users leave comments for each article.

The money would be through ad revenue on the website, as well as marketing data obtained from users based on what articles they vote up/down.

Posted by: Smoley on January 9, 2009 06:33 PM
5. Oh God... now we are going to be seeing ex-journalists sitting at intersections, wearing those gloves with no fingers, with signs reading, "Will punctuate for food".

Posted by: Huey on January 9, 2009 06:41 PM
6. The liberal biased media get what it deserves. Die liber media die. Your years and years of unbalanced leftwing spew are finally putting the death knell in your coffin.

I think I'll dance a jig!

"Oh God... now we are going to be seeing ex-journalists sitting at intersections..."

If they are from the Pee Eye they won't be ex-journalists. They will be ex-propagandists.

Posted by: pbj on January 9, 2009 06:49 PM
7. Conservative blogs like this one should band together to raise money to purchase the PI. It would probably cost several million, but the power of raising money over the web is that you have no boundaries to find investors. Just look at the Obama campaign.

Plus, it would be valuable to own an organization with a little easier name recognition like the PI and a little smaller pool of competition. If one were to return the paper to some journalistic roots with actual local investigative reporting I believe that people would begin renewing their subscriptions.

Newspapers used to expose corruption, but now they either seem to be complicit or simply conduits for the AP.

Posted by: rp on January 9, 2009 07:34 PM
8. I'm sure they NEVER considered changing the tone of the paper to a more conservative format. Better to go belly up than do THAT!

Posted by: scott on January 9, 2009 08:02 PM
9. The demise of the PI will leave a void. No of the investigations that they did once or twice per year, like the excellent "Conduct Unbecoming."

Still it is tough to shed a tear after so many years of unbridled bias, and misuse of their position for purposes of warping public opinion. I would have titled this thread "In the tank, part deux."

Posted by: russell garrard on January 9, 2009 09:11 PM
10. When we tore down my grandparents' old Poulsbo farmhouse circa 1958, we found a P-I comic section, dated 1916, between the walls. Grandpa had built the house in 1900. My parents subscribed to the P-I until my dad passed on in 1996. I learned to "read" from the P-I Sunday funnies, which by the way, are far superior to the Times'. I also purchased the P-I on my way to work, every day, between 1973 to around 2000, when I had finally had enough of the leftist propaganda to warrant giving up my favorite sports section and comics.

While much of Pravda-Izvestia's financial troubles are related to advertising revenue, leftism contributed greatly to declining subscriptions. The P-I made no attempt, in the last decade, to feign objectivity. The front page became an additional editorial page, with major news stories (available elsewhere) conspicuously missing from the P-I, only because they may benefit the conservative cause or opinion. Yes, Pravda-Izvestia, your demise isn't all about ad revenue, many of us long-time readers just grew up. Too bad you didn't.

Posted by: Saltherring on January 10, 2009 06:43 AM
11. The Seattle PI's demise was caused by global warming....

Posted by: Doc-T on January 10, 2009 07:40 AM
12. Think about it, that paper has done real harm in recent years...they support nothing worthwhile, and always peddle harmful left wing trip. ----don't punish the murdering terrorists....build sanctuaries....approve of sex outside marriage...except marriage and sex outside for the gays...and too high taxes....and government does all, especially frivolous stuff (art on the sewer project).....Pravda has left us poorer and worse off....good riddance!

Posted by: righton on January 10, 2009 08:08 AM
13. #7 Posted by rp at January 9, 2009

" Conservative blogs like this one should band together to raise money to purchase the PI. "

Sound Politics is not a 'Conservative blog'.

For Sound Politics to be a 'Conservative blog', the people behind the blog would need to be 'Conservative' and Stefan Sharkansky, Eric Earling, Jim Miller, et al are anything but Conservative.

Just look at and listen to the creepy 'republicans' who are Stefan's good friends - Phil Bevis, Mark Griswold and Ross Marzolf - and you will know that Stefan has a queer idea of what is a 'Conservative'.

As for purchasing the PI, this issue was brought up before when newspapers on the eastside and south sound were for sale and the purchase of the newspapers was discussed extensively in Conservative groups on the eastside and south sound as a way for Conservatives to have a printed voice at what many thought was a reasonable price.

The leadership of the Republican Party in King County and Washington State showed no interest in organizing the effort.

To be fair, they probably didn't know anything about it.

Posted by: Brian Thomas on January 10, 2009 08:36 AM
14. The P.I. building falls in the woods...does anybody care?

Posted by: cliff on January 10, 2009 08:37 AM
15. Brian,

You, of course, however, are the perfect example of a conservative, and you have done a ton to organize such an effort, giving you endless credibility in criticizing, right?

Or are you, like most of the idiot commentators similar to yourself on this blog, a self-important blowhard who shouldn't throw stones in glass house?

Posted by: cliff on January 10, 2009 08:41 AM
16. The P-I gives space this morning to Ron Sims, who writes such a paean to the incoming President-elect it's touching. But he does so on account of the color of Obama's skin and his non-Anglo-Saxon genes (come on, Ron, this country's leadership has for years included all sorts of non-Anglos, remember Tom Bradley, Henry Kissinger, George Cristopher, Joe Lieberman et al to infinity). I fear that the 'content of his character' got lost in the writing or in the noncommital and hyperbolic verbiage of the Elect - or maybe the Editors felt it unimportant and snipped it off.

That op-ed is worth a topic of its own.

Posted by: Insufficiently Sensitive on January 10, 2009 10:05 AM
17. #15 Posted by cliff at January 10, 2009

" You, of course, however, are the perfect example of a conservative, ...."

Cliff:

I am not " the perfect example of a conservative ", I am a Conservative and I am a Conservative who will freely and openly discuss differences that I have with others in the Conservative movement over what is a 'Conservative' and what should be the direction of the Conservative movement. Which is one of the reasons that I have credibility. Unlike you. 'Cliff'.

" Or are you, like most of the idiot commentators similar to yourself on this blog, a self-important blowhard who shouldn't throw stones in glass house? "

No. Unlike you. 'Cliff'.

Posted by: Brian Thomas on January 10, 2009 10:28 AM
18. How could this happen after all the work the PI did to bring about the coming of the messiah?

This isn't Amerika anymore, is it?

I smell bailout money comming from Washington DC (er... I mean your grandchildren's children). After all, if you can't have good liberal robots spreading the word in Seattle-- what has become of us?

I mean-- they could have at least waited until after the inagurial. Then the good workers there would have had a few more obasms before getting the "bad" news.

Posted by: Jimster on January 10, 2009 12:26 PM
19. Good riddance. Bad ideas should die. The sooner the rest of mainstream journalism (if you can call it that) is dead, the better. Let the new Democratic millions of individuals on the Internet do the reporting.

Posted by: Jeff B. on January 10, 2009 05:49 PM
20. Take a look at Horsey's latest cartoon. He seems to be insinuating that Thomas Jefferson chartered the leftist news media. Looking for an Obama handout, Horsey? I'm sure one of your Dimocrat allies needs a "publicist". You're certainly experienced at that, if nothing else.

Posted by: Saltherring on January 11, 2009 08:46 AM
21. Has anyone considered that the so-called demise of the P-I might free up a lot of "journalists" to serve in the incoming administration? That of course is another form of bailout... just like certain pols who are bailing out of our state for the "other" Washington to jump on the gravy train.

Other point: I understand that other major papers in the state that FOCUS ON LOCAL NEWS are doing quite well thank you. See... even in our left coast culture the market place is still the deciding factor.

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