January 05, 2009
Sherril Huff: tax-delinquent, liar

King County Elections Director Sherril Huff submitted this candidate questionnaire to the county Democrats.

In answer to: "Have you ever failed to pay any taxes or court ordered judgments?" Huff checked NO. But that appears to be untruthful.

In 2007 Huff was slapped with a federal tax lien for over $13,000 in unpaid taxes from year 2000, assessed as delinquent in 2004.


(source: Kitsap County) The obligation was subsequently satisfied, and the lien released. (as opposed to withdrawn, implying that the IRS did not file the lien in error). But Sherril is free to explain how her federal tax lien is consistent with her claim of never having failed to pay any taxes.

(Oddly, the lien was outstanding in April 2007 when Ron Sims nominated Huff to the Elections post and the Council confirmed her appointment. Background check, anybody?)

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at January 05, 2009 05:50 PM | Email This
Comments
1. Major touche....
One would think this would be a obvious disqualifier....
Then again, last words of prior thread start by Stefan must be remembered; i.e.:
''this is Seattle.''

Posted by: Methow Ken on January 5, 2009 05:41 PM
2. Welcome back Stefan... TWO threads in a row... a sign of things to come?

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on January 5, 2009 06:42 PM
3. Umm, if she paid it, then she didn't fail to pay it.

Posted by: Andrew Brown on January 5, 2009 06:59 PM
4. That depends on the meaning of "have you ever." The question wasn't "Are you currently delinquent" I would say that from 2000 to 2007 qualifies as "have you ever."

Posted by: Vatar on January 5, 2009 07:02 PM
5. With this kind of publicity (sic), she will likely be the odds-on favorite in hammer and sickle aspiring King County.

Posted by: KS on January 5, 2009 07:10 PM
6. Andrew, you completely missed the point. Anyone can run into $$ trouble and come up short for a financial obligation, and I don't expect her to just bring it up out of the blue. But lying about it when directly asked about such--when she's trying out for a job where public trust is more important a quality than almost any other? THAT'S the problem. And if she could lie about this, she could lie about a ballot report. It's happened before.

Posted by: Michele on January 5, 2009 07:27 PM
7. ..and having a lien put on you means you haven't paid. They are a serious matter. It's good that she finally did pay, but the question should have been answered with more explanation e.g. "I did have a lien put on my house for nonpayment (that's why they put liens on, because you didn't pay) of taxes but eventually satisfied the lien" etc. She had to know that this was a public record and could be checked against her answer to determine how truthful she had been on her questionnaire. I don't fault her for having financial troubles, but I question a direct attempt to hide the facts on a direct question about such.

Posted by: Michele on January 5, 2009 07:33 PM
8. Michele, YOU missed the point.

The question is 'have you ever failed to pay...'

It does not specify a given time period. If she paid it, then she did not fail to pay. Don't get me wrong, I don't know ANYTHING about the person in question, I don't have any loyalty to her, I don't even live in King county (thank God, right?).

I'm not suggesting anyone is faulting her for having financial trouble at all - I certainly don't, hell I'm not doing awesome myself after a 3 month NICU stay for my daughter - I'm suggesting that the premise in the original post here is that she failed to pay, and since she eventually paid it, she didn't fail to pay in the big picture.

But hey, let's settle it once and for all with rational fact. Is this considered a lie by a court, and if so, let's cite the case where it's been seen that way in the past.

If I'm wrong then I humbly ask your apology. I'd guess I've got pretty good odds here though.

Posted by: Andrew Brown on January 5, 2009 07:53 PM
9. @8: you seem to be getting legalistic, arguing the letter of the law rather than the intent. She knew that this was part of the public record, and sure to be uncovered. So why not just explain it? That is how you build trust.

If she is willing to parse this simple question, why should we believe anything she says in relation to elections? I want my election chief to be up front and transparent, just like elections. I don't want someone who hides behind the meaning of "is".

Posted by: janet s on January 5, 2009 07:59 PM
10. Yes, I'm getting legalistic, because that is the only objective standard we have to hold her to.

You mention intent of law, and yet isn't that what many people argue for the 2nd Amendment, ignoring the plain english words that comprise it? It's wrong there, and it's wrong here.

Either she failed to pay or she didn't... If I'm wrong that she didn't, and the law backs up your side, then I do apologize for wasting time, but I'm glad that we looked into it and I learned otherwise.

I honestly doubt anyone will cite anything though. Cites to real authority aren't the norm here at all.

Posted by: Andrew Brown on January 5, 2009 08:10 PM
11. I would like to know. HOW she paid it?
$13.000 is no small dimes.

Did Ron S have something to do with it?

Posted by: Medic/Vet on January 5, 2009 08:20 PM
12. Who needs a cite to real authority? If you have a tax lien entered against you, you have failed to pay your taxes. QED. Eventually paying off the lien does not mean that you did not fail to pay your taxes.

Posted by: brett on January 5, 2009 08:36 PM
13. a friend who knows told me in my ear that these types of liens are filed after basically the gov-mint has made MANY attempts to reasonably work with you at many levels;

this is usually the proverbial straw and camel's back; so---let's indeed ask the "why's" and "wherefore's"

BECAUSE...

these are public servants--not involuntary draftees--THEY came to US, VOLUNTARILY, on their own power to apply for this government job--

so---a higher standard SHOULD BE expected with other people's money and votes and DEL-E-GA-TED--(NOT OWNED)---POWERS over us, folks--let's not forget that !

personally, i respect the direct honesty approach--if you had real life crap problems, just tell us voters--we may actually cut you some slack--we all have issues at times...

Posted by: jimmie-howya-doin on January 5, 2009 09:15 PM
14. Andrew, try not paying your phone bill for 7 years and tell me if the phone company keeps you ringing.
Oh I'll end the suspense for you...they'd cut you off for "failure to pay"

Posted by: PC on January 5, 2009 09:56 PM
15. Andrew is an clintoneque apologist for Huff. She violated the spirit and the intent of the question by out and out LYING.

She FAILED TO PAY in a timely manner. Now if she had merely been late without a LIEN being placed, that would be one thing. But to mealy mouth this for her really take an ethical lapse.

So in Andy's world, if one is asked "Have you ever taken money from a little old lady" of a robber who paid restituion, he would be able to say "No".

BULL CRAP!

Posted by: The TRUTH on January 6, 2009 12:48 AM
16. Andrew is and probably still is a Ron Paulista. Doesn't that explain everything?

Posted by: Eunice Burns on January 6, 2009 04:39 AM
17. lol. Sound Politics... Don't like what someone has to say? Don't want to address it? Just start calling people liberals, clintoneque, ron paulistas... After all, if you can categorize them as someone you don't like, you don't have to think anymore.

"Who needs a cite to real authority?"

Sound Politics should just make this their official motto and put it up on the main banner.

Posted by: Andrew Brown on January 6, 2009 05:21 AM
18. Andrew: Let's make this very, very simple. The lien was placed BECAUSE she failed to pay the taxes. Does that do it for you?

Posted by: katomar on January 6, 2009 06:10 AM
19. Nice catch Stefan.
Huff certainly should have disclosed this Tax Lien in some manner....even if she footnoted it.
It's a PUBLIC RECORD for cryin' out loud.

This is likely the result of an IRS Tax Audit.
Would be nice to know more of the juicy details.
I think Huff owes it to the Public to explain the circumstances behind this lien....rather than let Cynical people think the worst.
Was it an "honest" mistake Sherril??
Like Charlie Rangel's "mistake"???

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on January 6, 2009 08:16 AM
20. #13 is right. The IRS doesn't just slap a lien on you. They communicate early and often with you, as soon as they figure out that something's wrong. To get all the way to a lien means that much communication and request to pay has already happened likely over a period of several months.

Posted by: Michele on January 6, 2009 10:03 AM
21. Andrew,

If you were convicted of armed robbery and subsequently served your entire sentence, can you truthfully answer "have you ever been convicted of a felony" by saying no?

Posted by: Shanghai Dan on January 6, 2009 11:13 AM
22. Andrew,

Do you need a cite to real authority for the proposition that the sun rises in the east?

Given the ignorance displayed in your comments here, I suppose you do. So here you go, from 24 USC § 6321:

If any person liable to pay any tax neglects or refuses to pay the same after demand, the amount (including any interest, additional amount, addition to tax, or assessable penalty, together with any costs that may accrue in addition thereto) shall be a lien in favor of the United States upon all property and rights to property, whether real or personal, belonging to such person.

Will you STFU now?

Posted by: brett on January 6, 2009 12:40 PM
23. Andrew, you are butchering Ron Paul and what he stands for. And asking for court cases regarding a stupid questionaire? You sound like you want more, not less, government. You got me confused again.

On your side, that was a dumb question the Democrats asked since she has paid the tax lien but only after a lot of communication (i.e. the lien and the months and months of back and forth). But, Stefan has a point also. Her failure to pay caused a lien to be placed on her.

I've seen a lot of dumb candidates' questions, but this one is dumbest of all.

Posted by: swatter on January 6, 2009 01:51 PM
24. If, at the time she answered the question, she had a lien on her property, then she could not have been telling the truth. You don't just get slapped with a lien as a warning that you'd better pay when the bill comes due. This is so Clintonian!

Posted by: scott on January 6, 2009 07:11 PM
25. I'm going with: she paid it, therefor didn't fail to pay it.



Posted by: Sarge on January 6, 2009 07:29 PM
26. Andrew Brown and Sarge - writing as a compliance attorney, I don't think your positions make sense. What do you think the point of the question "Have you EVER failed to pay taxes" is? The question was not "Do you have any tax obligations that are currently past due?"

If Sherril Huff believed that her eventual payment of the taxes entitled her to answer "No" to the question, she should have at least added a footnote to the effect that she had had a dispute with the IRS or had failed to pay taxes when due, which dispute/failure had resulted in a lien in 2007. Andrew - if you were Sherril and had to answer the same question under penalty of perjury, I doubt you would simply answer "No."

Posted by: Compliance Attorney on January 6, 2009 09:37 PM
27. It doesn't matter what Andrew and Sarge say.

1. She failed to pay her taxes, and the govt put a lien on her. It is irrelevant whether she paid it subsequently or not. The fact that she let herself get into that position means she does not have the character required to hold authority over a position of trust that is the director of elections.

2. The fact that she chose to obfuscate the truth lends further proof that she is unfit to be in the job.

Elections are a judgement call. If Anthony thinks she is a fine upstanding citizen, then he can vote for her. With luck, the press will do its job and make sure the voters know this information. Then we can find out if the majority sides with the mealy mouthed Anthonys and Sarges of the area, or can see a severe problem when they see it. If she lied about this, what else will she lie about?

Posted by: janet s on January 6, 2009 10:01 PM
28. The lien must have resulted from an audit of some
sort because any taxes she paid between now and back to 2000 would have gone towards any overdue balance 2000. Or she still owes for 2001 to 2008?
King Co Elections is probably the under the table
cash she's always dreamed of.

Posted by: mark on January 7, 2009 05:29 AM
29. Speaking of under the table cash, did you all see
that Paul Berendt helped Minnesota recount the
ballots for a Franken win. Now why on Gods Earth
would they (democrats) need him to help?

Posted by: mark on January 7, 2009 05:35 AM
30. I am going with Stefan is the liar. The IRS made the mistake and the question asked if she had any unpaid taxes - since it was a mistake - the correct answer is no.

Stefan is lying avout Huff lying. It is simply not true that Huff lied. Try checking your facts FIRST Stefan before shooting off your weak pen. Talk about hypocrisy.

Posted by: correctnotright on January 9, 2009 09:31 AM
31. Time for Stefan to post a correction and hope he doesn't get sued for slander. DID pay, IRS was WRONG, she ended up with a REFUND. Good lord.

Posted by: watcher on January 9, 2009 06:23 PM
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