Or just think like a politician, not an economist. That's my advice to Harvard economist Greg Mankiw, who is puzzled by this:
Over at Intrade, you can bet on future tax rates. Currently, the implied probability of a hike in the top income tax rate in 2009 is about two-thirds.
This surprises me. Even assuming an Obama victory, I would put the probability much lower. As an economic matter, raising anyone's taxes with the economy so weak seems ill-advised. As a political matter, why not just let the Bush tax cuts expire at the end of 2010? Obama could then claim in four years that he never signed a tax hike. It seems neither economically nor politically sensible for the new President to push for an immediate tax increase, even if an eventual tax increase is his goal.
Mankiw then goes on to give three hypotheses, but misses the obvious explanation: Many bettors think that Obama is lying. And those bettors have history on their side; after all, Bill Clinton promised a middle-class tax cut in 1992 — and dropped that promise almost immediately after the election, instead backing tax increases that hit almost everyone, including the middle class. (Washington state's governor, Christine Gregoire, promised no tax hikes in 2004, but switched almost immediately after taking office.) The Clinton tax increases probably slowed the recovery, though Clinton supporters would claim that they were good for the economy in the long run.
The logic, from a politician's point of view, is simple. If you are going to impose a tax increase, as I expect Obama to do, you should either wait until events appear to force you to impose that increase, or you should impose it immediately, to give voters time to forget before the next election. Bill Clinton used the second tactic in 1993 (with some mix of the first) — and was re-elected in 1996. Obama knows that.
Cross posted at Jim Miller on Politics.
(What kind of tax increase would Obama propose? Probably a regressive energy tax, as well as increases in top rates. He has made it clear that he favors higher energy taxes in order, as I like to say, to take power from the people.
Incidentally, I read Mankiw's site regularly, and often learn something there. But I have no idea why he thinks that Obama's people are "savvy" about economics. After all, to take just one example from many, Obama opposes the Colombia free trade agreement. Some of the economists who are supporting Obama may be savvy, but there is no evidence that they have affected his thinking on issues.)
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Posted by Jim Miller at November 03, 2008 07:53 AM | Email ThisWe can be pretty sure Obama the and gang will spend like crazy and our econ will crash.
It won't be long before even the dem's well have buyers remorse and the the dem's to stop it.
I hope it doesn't happen (Obama) but just maybe our country needs a good smack in the face when it comes to electing a maxist.
Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on November 3, 2008 11:48 AMBiden says all the tax cuts have gone to the very, very wealthy. I'm not very, very wealthy, and in fact, I'm not wealthy. But I received a tax cut under Bush, and I still pay about a quarter of what I earn annually to one government or another. That is more than most voters who will cast a ballot for Obama. They are not entitled to what I earn simply because they can vote to take it.
I have no respect for anyone who would take what someone else earns and give it to someone else. That is robbery! Thieves deserve neither respect nor support from anyone who has integrity.
Obama and the Democrats are all about class warfare. They've sufficiently trained the poorer in this country to be selfish. Yes, the poor are greedy and they are selfish. They would destroy this nation to take from others what they can't or won't earn for themselves.
Posted by: Reality on November 3, 2008 12:54 PMMy bad.
(Reality)
Last I heard the type of rich to tax was down to 120.000.
So much for 250.000.
We all know, there is NO way to give 95% of the taxpayers a lower tax.
Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on November 3, 2008 01:55 PMEconomically, one could look at the mistakes of Hoover and Roosevelt and realize that all of these things in the 1930's (Hoover and Roosevelt both raised taxes a lot, the Smoot-Hawley Trade Bill created a trade war, and the government got fully involved in agriculture, building and commodities) made the depression worse and made it last longer. However, Roosevelt blamed everything on Hoover (who did certainly deserve some of the blame, at least initially) and the Democrats today will blame everything they do to screw up the economy on "8 years of Bush". They may really hope for a repeat of the 1930's--this was after all the heyday for Democrats and the move toward socialism in this country.
"Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it." I'm afraid if we elect Obama tomorrow, we may, indeed, be doomed.
Posted by: Bill H on November 3, 2008 02:20 PMOh, yes! Change is going to be a wonderful thing. Just be careful what you wish for as it might have unintended consequences.
Posted by: Clean House on November 3, 2008 05:35 PMWell, if there's so much fat to be trimmed, why can't he simply do that and lower taxes?
I mean, if there is so much waste and so on right now, we all should be getting massive tax cuts to go along with Barack's ideas on how much government should cost....right?