October 17, 2008
Seattle Times (?!) endorses Dino Rossi for Governor

The Seattle Times has endorsed Dino Rossi for Governor. Not that I look to the Seattle Times Editorial Board for voting advice. But when even the state's leading liberal newspaper abandons Mrs. Gregoire, it's a pretty good sign she's in trouble.

And as commenter Glenno points out, Rossi today also picked up the endorsements of the Yakima Herald, the Walla Walla Union Bulletin and the Tri-City Herald, the latter two having endorsed Gregoire in 2004.

Watch out for exploding heads. Dying regimes tend to get ugly.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at October 17, 2008 04:27 PM | Email This
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1. A clean Sweep of Southeast Washington!!!

Walla Walla Union Bulletin - (Endorsed Gregoire in 2004)
Rossi is best choice to lead state through difficult times - Rossi has the temperament and skills necessary to negotiate a tight budget.
Link: http://www.union-bulletin.com/articles/2008/10/17/opinion/daily_editorial/081017%20editorial%20rossi.txt


Yakima Herald - Endorsed Rossi in 2004
Governor: Budget concerns give Rossi the edge
Link: http://www.yakimaherald.com/stories/2008/10/16/governor-budget-concerns-give-rossi-the-edge


Tri-City Herald - Endorsed Gregoire 2004 and every time before
Governor: Dino Rossi
Link: http://www.tri-cityherald.com/962/story/352730.html

Posted by: Glenno on October 17, 2008 04:35 PM
2. She's undoubtdedly in the fight of her life; it will take each and every of those 24K 'suspect' votes. :)

Posted by: Duffman on October 17, 2008 04:39 PM
3. Seattle Times is liberal? I'm having a hard time believing that one.

Posted by: demo kid on October 17, 2008 04:49 PM
4. Clearly, the Seattle Times sided with the RIGHT team on "Purple and Gold Day".

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on October 17, 2008 05:04 PM
5. I'll get you....and your little dog, too! Ahh-Heh-heh-heh-heh-heh!

Posted by: Saltherring on October 17, 2008 05:06 PM
6. Turn out the lights, the party's over.

Posted by: JDH on October 17, 2008 05:10 PM
7. These various newspapers endorsing Dino Rossi are not, totally doing it out seeing the Light but, are simply positioning themselves to be in line with the majority of the Voters. After all, it is good business when, considering the retention of readership to be aligned with the opinions and choice of the majority.

Posted by: Daniel on October 17, 2008 05:41 PM
8. A newspaper which endorsed Rep. Linda Smith and, later, Mike&$@! is NOT liberal. Given how unflattering their actual news coverage of Rossi has been, this is just another example of Blethen publicly humiliating his editrial staff.

BTW, the Times demanded Clinton's resignation over Monica. Please tell us again about how well they represent liberals.

Posted by: tensor on October 17, 2008 05:51 PM
9. Gov. Gregoire has passed the tipping point, she's pushed the envelope too far in too many highly conspicuous matters. The handling of the viaduct is the most obvious one. Then there is her on-line gambling ban & cell phone ban, both so obviously done to facilitate the lining of state pockets, not the service & protection of the public.

I know a lot of people who plan to vote for Obama and Rossi. An interesting question is, how will Obama govern. Will he be a Gregoire and push the envelope too hard, or will he be a Gary Locke, who was pragmatic & smart enough to win two terms.

Posted by: russell garrard on October 17, 2008 05:58 PM
10. I'm gonna vote for Rossi. I don't really like the guy, but I want Rossi to win so the rest of the state can show King County and the Seattle elitist liberal snobs that they don't get to run the state. We don't exist for them, and electing Rossi will prove that to them.

Posted by: Politically Incorrect on October 17, 2008 05:59 PM
11. The Times endorses Rossi and the PI endorses Reichart. Time to buy stock in Washington Mutual.

Posted by: Doc-T on October 17, 2008 06:00 PM
12. #3,#8 and 'Facts?' whereever you are. A little 'Heads up'. Perhaps learn a skill of value, then study Help Wanted Ads. This might be the beginning of the end of public funding. Maybe one of those college remedial courses I've read about might be helpful if you can get accepted somewhere. Your analytical ability needs some work.

Posted by: Curtis T. Mohr on October 17, 2008 06:24 PM
13. The Seattle Times has been making smart moves...including this endorsement.

1) Increased forum usage (phpbbs powered...go Linux! Go OSS!)

2) One of the best "webpapers". They recognize that their audience will soon be 100 percent web.

3) Participation with readers/writers...putting emails on every article.

4) Blog format for columnists.

5) Little censorship of views.

6) Appeal to "Joe the Plummer" type comment writers.

The Seattle Times is trying to be a Washington newspaper and I think they could succeed.

Posted by: John Bailo on October 17, 2008 06:48 PM
14. demo kid & tensor -

Any normal, non-prejudiced, non-biased, person walking the halls of the Seattle Times offices would immediately see the extreme left leaning soul of the Seattle Times. The Times doesn't deny it, so why do you?

The fact that jaded people such as yourselves exist really troubles me for the future of this country.

Posted by: DJ on October 17, 2008 07:45 PM
15. 7's right; hard edition in last few weeks (if you noticed) has stopped letters section; now only 1-2; usually lefties published anyway, but i think a flood of "right" letters or those not pleasing to their palate has caused them to be "progressive" and "change their layout" yea--that, with the large drop in circulation maybe? hmmm

Posted by: jimmie-howya-doin on October 17, 2008 07:53 PM
16. O.K. let's get real. The Times is a business (now that they have trimmed the dead wood they were knowledgeable of, but carried) and they have mortgages to pay. Ideology or not the facts bite, and bite hard. Pay your mortgage by coming around to what the future portends or be ideological and stand in the welfare line.

It's our old friend, the invisible hand (the market), that is responsible here. Be honest, do you think this is their "actual" choice? Hell no. But they (whose financial lives depend on the Times survival) have read the tea leaves. It is an economic calculation, but economic calculation is what America is all about. Satisfy your market or perish, and the market is definitely Rossi.

The papers can move the market, but only to an extent. The papers cannot weather the storm of public opinion here. Ergo the smart ones are defying their ideology. Perhaps this will effect their bias too with potential new hires not being ideologically screened. That is all I hope for.

Posted by: JDH on October 17, 2008 08:03 PM
17. I am a Democrat. Have been for 20 years. I am voting Obama, but by God that Gragoire will not get my vote.

Rossi has some good ideas, let's let him give it a try. He can't do worse than that awful Gregoire. I am sad the Democrats couldn't get a better candidate. But I put state before Party. Rossi gets my vote. If he mucks it up, he'll b out on his ass in 4 years as well!

Posted by: The Democrat on October 17, 2008 08:25 PM
18. 39 years as a state employee could fry anyone's brain. It's time to retire, Christine.

Posted by: 5.62 on October 17, 2008 09:03 PM
19. The Seattle Times endorsement of Dino Rossi is good news indeed. I have a feeling it is going to be a close race.

Posted by: Whole Lotta Rosie on October 17, 2008 09:30 PM
20. I'm sure the chrissy queen saw that endorsement and thought to herself "O-bumm-er"

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on October 17, 2008 09:36 PM
21. Slight grammatical correction.

"An interesting question is, how will Obama govern. " should be "An interesting question is, how *would* Obama govern."

He's not going to be President.

Posted by: Jorge Curioso on October 17, 2008 11:04 PM
22. Stefan misstates, "when even the state's leading liberal newspaper abandons Mrs. Gregoire, it's a pretty good sign she's in trouble."

The Seattle Times endorsed Rossi in 2004 and again in 2008. How exactly does this amount to "abandoning" Governor Gregoire? You can only abandon someone who you once supported.

Also, the Times is "liberal" only in your with-us-or-against-us mentality. They endorsed Bush in 2000, Rossi in 2004, McGavick and Reichert in 2006, Reichert and Rossi in 2008. Sure, they endorse some Democrats too, but the Rossi endorsement is consistent with their ideology.

I agree that their Rossi endorsement hurts Gregoire, and she is in trouble. But your spin on it is contrary to the facts -- either wishful thinking or an outright lie.

Posted by: Bruce on October 17, 2008 11:40 PM
23. The shrew sat in her office for four years while Gridlock engulfed our roads as she watched the Deficit grow. We knew all along that she was a one termer.

Posted by: Jeff B. on October 17, 2008 11:56 PM
24. The front page of today's Times started with the word "Rossi", but was ignored here at Sound Politics. The news story recounts how Rossi's prime sponsor, the BIAW, compared Washington State to a Nazi regime, and bitterly attacked Gov. Gregoire in starkly misogynistic terms. Even devout worshippers here at the Cult of St. Dino could not spin this into a positive view of their hero. Thus, the news report, containing so many facts, was ignored in favor of an editorial. How'd the Tiimes' editorial endorsement of Mr. Rossi in 2004 go? How about their endorsement of Mike!@#%$$$! in 2006? Did President Clinton resign in 1998? Do tell.

"Any normal, non-prejudiced, non-biased, person walking the halls of the Seattle Times offices would immediately see the extreme left leaning soul of the Seattle Times."

No, reality has a well-known liberal bias. The fact-free zone of the Times' editorial board can endorse Rossi, with exactly the same effect as their endorsement of Mike!!$$$$!! in 2006. After all, they will be fired if they don't snap to the party line Mr. Blethen decrees.

Perhaps learn a skill of value, then study Help Wanted Ads. This might be the beginning of the end of public funding. Maybe one of those college remedial courses I've read about might be helpful if you can get accepted somewhere. Your analytical ability needs some work.

I work in the private sector. The word "analysis" is in my job title. My boss recently gave me a very large pay increase, explaining how he needed to match the value I create for our employer. So, your attempted ad hominem attack was just eviscerated by reality. You are therefore wasting your time commenting at Sound Politics; you deserve to post here daily. Yes, your ability to get everything wrong all of the time will arouse the hate-filled envy of your fellow posters, but once you remember their utter impotence, you'll do just fine.

Posted by: tensor on October 18, 2008 12:58 AM
25. "Watch out for exploding heads. Dying regimes tend to get ugly."

Oh, please. Mr. President 23% Approval Rating will merely pardon anyone who can testify against him. Nothing to worry about, unless you believe in law and order.

Posted by: tensor on October 18, 2008 01:15 AM
26. "...I want Rossi to win so the rest of the state can show King County and the Seattle elitist liberal snobs that they don't get to run the state. We don't exist for them, and electing Rossi will prove that to them."

You do know that Mr. Rossi's transportation 'plan', if implemented, will involve spending many tax dollars here in King County, right? An eight-lane SR-520 bridge might actually require so much money that Eastern Washington would get only as much tax money as they send to Olympia; after years on our public dole, how would they adjust? It's not like they work at Microsoft, Paccar, Boeing, Perkins Coie, etc.

By all means, keep voting based on how you feel. We liberals all know how touchy-feely you righties can get, and how loudly you howl when we ask you to consider facts -- actual facts -- in your decisions.

Posted by: tensor on October 18, 2008 01:24 AM
27. "..we ask you to consider facts--actual facts..."

In the 2004 Governor's race:

More than 55,000 ballots were "enhanced" by election workers.
More ballots were counted than were cast.
Newly "discovered" ballots were illegally added to the count.
Felons, dead people and those without a legal residence voted.
3,500 duplicate absentee ballots were sent out in King County.
Military ballots were sent out too late.
The election was improperly certified.

The election was stolen by Mrs. G & the Democrats....AND THAT'S A FACT!!

Posted by: Susu on October 18, 2008 03:30 AM
28. Wow, the Seattle Times endorsement was fabulous. I feel like I wrote it myself!

Rossi made the right move in focusing on the Budget Fiasco Gregoire created by increasing spending 33% or $8 BILLION in the face of a recession. This $3.2 BILLION Deficit did not just happen, it was because of a series of Gregoire decisions. The Times gave this example:

"the proportion of health insurance paid by the employee. In the private sector, the employee's share differs, but averages more than a third. At the state, the employee's share is 12 percent.

A few months ago, Gregoire agreed to keep it at 12 percent. She could try to take back this gift, but it would be difficult. For Rossi, it would not be so difficult. He would probably say that in the midst of an economic crisis, it was unfair to save an employee's benefit by raising taxes on other employees who don't have that benefit."

IN OTHER WORDS, GREGOIRE PAID OFF THE STATE EMPLOYEES UNION TO THE DETRIMENT OF 'WE THE PEOPLE', while KNOWING we were facing a massive deficit.
What the Times failed to do...and Rossi now MUST do is connect the dots and that is:
Gregoire failed to address State Employee benefits & gave raises IN EXCHANGE FOR MASSIVE CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS OF BOTH MONEY & TIME BY THE UNION AND IT'S MEMBERS.

It was brought up here the huge conflict Gregoire had "negotiating" with the State Employees Union while taking their money & help from "foot-soldiers".
This is what she did.

Taxpayers should be outraged.
Connect the dots quickly Dino...launch all torpedo's now...and the Governor's Mansion is your new home.

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on October 18, 2008 05:51 AM
29. One other key thing to remember & share with your undecided friends, the Gregoire "Rainy Day Fund" was all smoke-and-mirrors.
It's this simple:
How in the hell can you have a Rainy Day Fund when you are facing a Deficit AND you have a $5.1 BILLION UNDERFUNDED State Retirement Fund??

The $5.1 BILLION UNDERFUNDED was as of 6/30/07. The State Retirement Fund has $38 BILLION invested in Equity Markets which have dropped 20% or so since 6/30/07. They also have BILLIONS invested in real estate. My guess is the State Retirement Fund is now UNDERFUNDED by $8-9 BILLION!!

We haven't heard a peep about the current financial status of the State Retirement Fund. You can be absolutely certain Gregoire is keeping this number under lock & key until AFTER the Election.
It's very surprising the Seattle Times, with all the coverage they have provided about the Stock Market collapse, has not connected the dots and asked the simple Question:
HOW HAS THE STOCK MARKET COLLAPSE IMPACTED THE STATE RETIREMENT FUND??

Obviously 3-1/2+ months after the 6/30/08 Retirement Fund year-end, SOME preliminary numbers are available.
Come on Seattle Times, what are you waiting for!!
Connect the dots. We are in big trouble now.
How big?? You tell us.
Watch Seattle Times, you will be given the Gregoire-bureaucratic run-around that numbers are not available and it is their "policy" to release them later. BULLSH*T!
We deserve to get them NOW!
It's "We the People" who sooner or later must pay this monstrous Retirement Bill.

Rainy Day Fund--My A$$!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on October 18, 2008 07:52 AM
30. Gregoire set up a phoney "Rainy Day Fund" when we were right in the midst of a record 10" gully-washer DOWNPOUR!

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on October 18, 2008 07:55 AM
31. The Seattle Times also endorsed Dino Rossi for Governor in 2004 as well. Hardly what I would call a "liberal" newspaper. Especially given their support of Mike!$#%! McGavick in 2006, and their support of Dave Reichert in 2004, 2006 and 2008.

Posted by: Richard Pope on October 18, 2008 08:25 AM
32. Richard,
I understand you are now a full-fledged member of TEAM HORSESASS. That despite your past harsh criticisms of Gregoire when you ran against her for AG...heck you even sued her! That despite the vulgar, Atheist banter of at HA, you are desperately trying to who the fringe lunatic left for your next political venture #whatever.

Seems mighty shallow Richard.
Goldstein and his ilk laugh and poke fun at you.

Fence-jumpers in politics don't normally fare too well. People rightfully question what they stand for and conclude they will say or do anything to win an election.

Posted by: Pope? on October 18, 2008 08:48 AM
33. The Seattle Times once endorsed George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, which is just like endorsing Dino Rossi.

The big news related to the Governor's race this year are the newspapers that have flipped. The News Tribune in Pierce County is for Gregoire this time after backing Rossi in 04. Same flip for the Columbian in Clark County, which backs Gregoire this year.

What will the Herald do in Snohomish County this year after backing Rossi in 04?

The Tri-City Herald has sour grapes and backs Rossi over Gregoire this time. But it hardly matters because voters in Benton and Franklin counties are already locked in the Rossi column and have been for four years.

Posted by: Jan on October 18, 2008 09:02 AM
34. The Seattle Times once endorsed George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, which is just like endorsing Dino Rossi.

I laugh out loud when this is the best you can come up with.

Posted by: jimg on October 18, 2008 09:34 AM
35. The Spokane Spokesman-Review endorsed McCain & Rossi........Sanity reigns in E. Washington

Posted by: Susu on October 18, 2008 10:50 AM
36. Tensor, so you got a big raise. Didn't they
just up the minimum wage? Is that what you
are referring to?

Posted by: mark on October 18, 2008 11:16 AM
37. @30 Mr Cynical, I remember that 10" downpour.
The contractor on the Narrows Bridge was fined
$20,000 for a little mudslide that amounted to
about 2 dumptrucks (if I remember clearly).
Anyhow, the State Department Of Ecology fined the
contractor and that same day Gregoire requested
federal funds and declared 18 counties a disaster
zone. How fair is that? Liberals are so retarded.

Posted by: mark on October 18, 2008 11:30 AM
38. The Times endorsed Obama. Their editorial board has come out multiple times against the Death Tax. Just think what an Obama administration with a Demo Congress will do to the future Death Tax. Blethen Times, you are Doomed.

Posted by: Carol Kujawa on October 18, 2008 11:57 AM
39. I work for the State and have heard little faith and/or support for Gregoire. We need a Governor who has some "real world" experience. I just hope that this time King County is held in check.

Posted by: flexnfx on October 18, 2008 12:20 PM
40. "...and bitterly attacked Gov. Gregoire in starkly misogynistic terms."

Liberal ought not be throwing around accusations of misogyny, lest Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin remind you of your vicious misogynistics attacks on them both!

Posted by: Libs are Misogynists on October 18, 2008 06:55 PM
41. "Oh, please. Mr. President 23% Approval Rating will merely pardon anyone who can testify against him. Nothing to worry about, unless you believe in law and order."

Actually it is the wrath of the 10% approval congress I fear most.

Posted by: pbj on October 18, 2008 07:02 PM
42. Dying regimes tend to get ugly.

Indeed.

Posted by: YLB on October 18, 2008 10:25 PM
43. I work for the state too - and am a SOLID Republican. I want FAR less government and I want state employees held to reasonable standards or FIRED. There's still a lot of fat to be cut.

I don't share too many values with the Gov, but she isn't as bad as she is painted. She is true to her own values - which I respect. I have seen her hold people in her "inner circle" highly accountable. She is extremely bright and has impeccably high standards.

Of course I am voting for Rossi. If I ever vote for a D - you can just slip me into a white jacket and call it done - but my point is - it shouldn't have to get this ugly.

D's want more Gov - they think they are smarter and can run the world from their thrones.
R's want less gov. They think people need to be smart and make good decisions or live with the consequences.

I think the truly corrupt souls are all running msm.

Posted by: Jo Lee on October 18, 2008 10:56 PM
44. I was just listening to Biden in Tacoma and he was talking up how he and Obama would push for rebuilding America's roads and bridges.

The thought that immediately popped into my head was, if Gregoire wins, there won't be any roads or bridge projects in this state because she and the radical environmentalist leftists in Seattle want to force us out of our cars by letting the roads crumble.

Odd as it may be, Rossi is actually better aligned with Obama/Biden on infrastructure than Gregoire is. It's isn't a bad thing for Rossi but more of a terrible sign of how out-of-touch Gregoire really is, even with her own party.

Posted by: blindman on October 19, 2008 03:39 PM
45. Susu,

http://spokesmanreview.com/opinion/

"Re-elect Gregoire" doesn't exactly sound like a Rossi endorsement to me.

Posted by: whats up on October 19, 2008 04:16 PM
46. Richard Pope is right: We endorsed Dino Rossi in 2004. Also, note that Horse's Ass accuse us of being a Republican paper--a calumny that I do my best to dance upon here: http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/edcetera/index.html#33427 on the Seattle Times editorial blog.

Posted by: Bruce Ramsey, Times Editorial Page on October 21, 2008 01:55 PM
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