October 01, 2008
Calendar, what calendar?

I'm in haste, but a point on the latest faux controversy that has some on the left - well, let's be honest here - pounding pud.

Now, the reader is saying, "Earling, that was gross."

Fair. But, I dare you to read this post and this post from Goldy and not reach the same conclusion.

Bigger issue: the PDC affirmed last November that Rossi was not a candidate for Governor in the 2008 race until October 2007.

The conversations some in the left are so excited about occurred in May. Meaning, Dino Rossi exercised his First Amendment rights to speak to people with whom he had past associations, months before he became a candidate.

Shocking, I say.

Side point: this would be even less of an issue if the BIAW would actually do their best to follow PDC reporting requirements in a constructive way rather than seemingly always to look for the grey area solution of doing the least amount legally required. Now you have Chris McGann at the P-I calling their fundraising "illegal," when in fact is was simply not properly reported in full.

UPDATE: headline fixed.

Posted by Eric Earling at October 01, 2008 07:39 AM | Email This
Comments
1. Ever try to track tribes' contributions in a timely manner? Their attorney sends a yearly letter about six months after an election in most cases.

Once again, you are holding one organization to a higher standard than another.

Posted by: swatter on October 1, 2008 08:09 AM
2. It's not going well for the Gregoire campaign when they've got to go to the snark machine at HA for help.

Posted by: Jeff B. on October 1, 2008 08:11 AM
3. When your wife leaves you like Goldy's did, I guess it would make sense that Mr.Gold stain would resort to plan B.

Posted by: Rick D. on October 1, 2008 08:30 AM
4. Are the minutes the article says were "released" available somewhere for viewing? The quoted statements from Rossi's critics imply that the minutes somehow implicate Rossi, but the article states only that a phone call was mentioned, but with no details of what was discussed in the call.

Posted by: Patrick on October 1, 2008 09:17 AM
5. The mystery for me is why anyone goes to that cesspool known as HA. Facts have no more place there then they do here for the leftists showing their ignorance.

It's a waste of ASCII... so why bother? And who cares what they say?

Posted by: Hinton on October 1, 2008 09:31 AM
6. Eric... huh. One thing I think I've proven again and again is that I know a good story when I see one. My advice to you is: "follow the money."

Patrick... I provided links to the documents in my posts.

Hinton... don't you think it would be more honest and constructive, when discussing the BIAW, to reveal your own close association with the BIAW? I'm just sayin'....

Posted by: Goldy on October 1, 2008 10:05 AM
7. I guess that's why Dave Ross disagrees with Goldy that this is an issue. The Gregoire appointed PDC Majority can deliver the goods only so long before they are shown to lack credibility.

Posted by: Smokie on October 1, 2008 10:37 AM
8. Is there any specific evidence that:

Rossi solicited campaign donations or coordinated fund raising for his campaign. Is there evidence he declared to the BIAW that he was a candidate?

In the absence of that his involvement as a mediator and consultant to the builder groups has no bearing on his candidacy.

Posted by: Cecil on October 1, 2008 10:38 AM
9. The left has gone totaly nuts.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/01/mckinney-dod-shot-5000-prisoners-during-katrina/

Didn't Ron Paul support this wacko? (Cynthia McKinney)

Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on October 1, 2008 10:39 AM
10. You could make some pretty interesting "follow the money" posts regarding Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and Barack Obama being against reforming Fannie and Freddie too, Goldy.

But those people are liberals so you will do what your allies in the media do...simply not talk about it.

Politics is a dirty, nasty business and this isn't really about the BIAW at all. It's about the government lawyers, government bureaucrats, and all the folks who feed at the smorgasbord of Democratic sponsored institutions continuing to party while they smirk at those nasty capitalists that fund them.

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 1, 2008 10:47 AM
11. @ 10 Bill C.

Right you are Bill. Goldy only "follows the money" when it comes to his politically ideological rivals, otherwise he's in "but,but,I can explain that with this over here" mode.

As for Goldy's claim that

"One thing I think I've proven again and again is that I know a good story when I see one."
Apparently not, since he tried to poo poo the Philandering John Edwards sneaking around hotels hiding in the mensroom while cheating on his cancer stricken wife- which proved true-. But those are just Liberal family values right, Goldy?

Posted by: Rick D. on October 1, 2008 11:04 AM
12. EE, FWIW - p.p. not gross. Choosing between these two nitwit candidates for governor - disgusting.

Posted by: Acid Brain on October 1, 2008 11:17 AM
13. Geez Eric, I clicked on the links to HA, read about half of them and now have another site to verify the complete failure of public education.
Some of those folks make DM look good.

Posted by: PC on October 1, 2008 11:37 AM
14. Gee, Goldy... it would be if such a relationship existed. Since you're such a lying scumbag, I stand by my observation that you've now confirmed.

That it DOESN'T exist speaks to the kind of crap you spew on the garbage site of yours.

*I'M* "just sayin."

Posted by: Hinton on October 1, 2008 12:20 PM
15. Gee, Goldy... it would be if such a relationship existed. Since you're such a lying scumbag, I stand by my observation that you've now confirmed.

That it DOESN'T exist speaks to the kind of crap you spew on the garbage site of yours.

*I'M* "just sayin." Since you asked.

Posted by: Hinton on October 1, 2008 12:23 PM
16. @3,

Clownstein had a wife? I thought he was gay.

Posted by: huh on October 1, 2008 12:45 PM
17. As to the issue reported, there is no issue. Rossi wasn't a candidate, no one has any evidence that anything was discussed that was improper. Done deal. Anyone who disagrees can submit their evidence of any wrongdoing to the PI. They devoted a whole story to an allegation with no evidence.

This is actually a very telling news article, as it demonstrates the inability of the Gregoire media to find anything substantive to attack Rossi with. They don't have issues, and they can't find scandals, so they have to try to invent scandals that no reasonable person will believe. As for the readers of the PI, most of them already are 100% behind Gregoire, so the stories do nothing but throw more gasoline on their generally irrational opposition to Rossi and philosophical allegiance with the socialist agenda.

Perhaps if the PI focused some of their attention on the massive proposed budget deficit and the incumbent's policies that helped create it, the electorate would be able to make a more informed decision. In fact, with such a huge story, I can only imagine the daily articles that would be pouring out of the Times and PI if a Republican was responsible. But of course we all know that the old media is not interested in informing the public of the truth, but coercing us instead to vote the way they want us to.

As for debating leftist bloggers and hoping they'll base their actions on the facts, you might as well try to convince a rock to float on water. Some things are simply not possible.

Posted by: Reality on October 1, 2008 12:57 PM
18. Reality - are you telling me the average voter doesn't know about the $3.2 billion deficit? I think you underestimate the average intelligence!

Posted by: Crusader on October 1, 2008 01:10 PM
19. #16, inflatable. Cigarette burn shot her out the window.

Posted by: PC on October 1, 2008 01:24 PM
20. Goldy and the democrats are just throwing mud to see what sticks. Remember the big drummed-up lawsuit against Mike McGavick? Nobody heard anything about it once the election was over. They will try to destroy anybody in any way they possibly can, even though they couldn't care less about the issue they're trying to bring up. After all, when the election is over, they move on and don't think another thing of it. The usefulness is over. I'm just surprised they were desperate enough to actually complain that Rossi called himself a 'GOP'. Oooh, baaaaad......

Posted by: Michele on October 1, 2008 01:26 PM
21. I think Michele has it right. Democrats are such an unprincipled bunch of socialist scumbags that they'll stop at nothing.

And they have the entire thouroughly brainwashed media/educational establishment behind them.

Any wonder why Democrats are always pushing state sponsored daycare and pre-school? The earlier you start filling childrens' heads with global warming hysteria and the how evil capitalism is the better.

And our side just lets them lie and get away with it. I do give Dino some credit for some hard-hitting ads.

However look at our gutless President who should have gone on national TV last week and named the names of the crooked Democrats that got us in this financial mess all the way from Jimmy Carter, to Bill Clinton, to Chris Dodd,Barney Frank, and Barack Obama.

If we end up losing this election and giving the country over to the socialists we only have ourselves to blame.

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on October 1, 2008 01:45 PM
22. Crusader, awareness and intelligence are two entirely different things. We've got a state of intelligent people. But yes, I believe that only a fraction have a clue about the estimated $3.2 billion deficit. If Gregoire and the Democrats thought differently, do you think they'd be as silent about it as they are?

The modern Democrat relies on ignorance. Not stupidity, but ignorance of what is happening. They flood the voting booths with uninformed and misinformed voters to offset the increasingly shrinking informed voter. They know that of those Americans who don't already vote, the overwhelming majority will vote the way the media tells them to if they can just get them in the ballot booth or help them fill out a mail-in ballot.

For a period there, the Internet and alternative media offered a generally honest alternative and information was spreading that the mainstream wouldn't report. But now the Internet and alternative sources are targeted specifically with false, distorted and biased information to counteract them. The major media is singularly focused on reporting anything the left wants reported, but then stand on the sideline and let the lies look as credible as the truth they won't report. There is no truth detector in the mainstream media. Most people don't know what is true and what isn't. Blatant falsehoods are generated from both the extreme left and right to even further muddy the waters, and it wouldn't surprise me if the left was behind it all.

Ask 10 people in Washington which state representatives are up for reelection and I'll bet less than half would say they all are. With so few reading the newspaper and so little real news on TV, where do you think the majority of folks in this state even get news, beside occasional network TV? And the more the average person knows of the truth, the more likely they are to turn it all off for their mental health.

Posted by: Reality on October 1, 2008 02:14 PM
23. Note to Eric and other intersting authors here at SP... I no longer waste my time clicking any HA links. Those kids offer nothing of value to any debate. By citing them, by referring to them, by using them as examples you give them more importance than they merit.

Just like some of the loonier moonbats that visit SP, those kids are immature, irresponsible and yes, dangerous. Do not feed them by linking or clicking the links that would increase their traffic... maybe they'll fade back in to obscurity.

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on October 1, 2008 02:47 PM
24. @22. Bingo, and that's why they appeal to GOTV efforts, less educated minorities, students, transients who hang around county buildings, and record Obama choir videos with young indoctrinated kids.

As soon as a person becomes educated enough to understand basic economics, and basic human metaphysics, philosophy, etc. They will quickly move to a more conservative mindset. And especially if they start their own business and realize just how predatory the collectivist Democrats are with respect to taxes and regulation minutia. Minutia often sponsored by Democrat controlled unions as a means to keeping their labor scarce.

But yeah, trying to bring Goldy or his demented profanity laden commenters to reason is like trying to move Mt. Rainier.

Posted by: Jeff B. on October 1, 2008 03:00 PM
25. My advice to you is: "follow the money." - Goldy.

That is, indeed, good advice. Wanna know where I ended up? A tribal casino.

But that was after a visit to the SEIU headquarters and the Democratic Governors' Association.

Oh, and WSFE's office turned up during my little follow-the-money adventure.

Go figure.

Posted by: jimg on October 1, 2008 03:28 PM
26. Dino debates tonight at 7 on PBS.

Posted by: The Pirate on October 1, 2008 03:44 PM
27. I wonder if we used the same logic, did Goldy know Darcy was running again, since he is the equivalant to the BIAW raising money for her run.

Just askin! ~~~~~~~~~~~

Posted by: GS on October 1, 2008 04:39 PM
28. BTW, Obama leads by 9 in the presidential race and is now leading by 5 points in Florida. This is going to be a landslide. 400-138.

Posted by: Crusader on October 1, 2008 05:49 PM
29. jimg @25,

Hmmm.

When I followed the money, I ended up at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and in the bank accounts of several prominent and corrupt executives appointed by Democrats.

Posted by: Jeff B. on October 1, 2008 06:51 PM
30. The funny thing about the all out assault on the
BIAW is the revenue that has been generated by
the housing industry over the last twenty years
in this state is astronomical. Those democrats
are so STUPID that they don't even know their
biting the hand that feeds them. Well guess what?
The partys over. They haven't seen the downturn
in the revenue stream yet because the construction
thats being finished right now has been in the
works for a few years. It would be neat if Rossi
won but the disaster heading for this state and
the mess that Gregoire and her tards have created
will end up being his fault. What deficit? HA HA

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