Some left-of-center notables who get the Palin pick:
- Democratic mega-consultant Joe Trippi. Summary: Palin brings McCain's reformer image front and center, which is now bound to be a major and compelling campaign theme.
- Democratic talker Kristen Powers, who id's the double-whammy of the pick:
...she also goes a long way to reconciling the party's base to McCain, while also restoring his standing as a maverick and a reformer - an image critical to attracting independent voters.
- Longtime local, liberal cynic Geov Parrish says Palin is a "a perfect fit for McCain's campaign."
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Posted by: HillaryWoman on September 1, 2008 11:30 AMNot murdering your unborn child IS a family value. And the fact that the entire Palin family is being supportive of Bristol is evidence of that.
It is a straw man argument to somehow infer that a beleif in family values magically makes the teen pregnancy problem go away.
Posted by: pbj on September 1, 2008 11:36 AM"I think he's going to make an intensely political choice, not a governing choice," Rove said. "He's going to view this through the prism of a candidate, not through the prism of president; that is to say, he's going to pick somebody that he thinks will on the margin help him in a state like Indiana or Missouri or Virginia. He's not going to be thinking big and broad about the responsibilities of president."
He was talking about McCain, right?
Posted by: YLB on September 1, 2008 11:47 AMDon't misunderstand. A 17 year old pregnancy is not ideal or desired, but in a society of taught promiscuity, free government condoms and rampant sex displayed throughout the media, it is a reality among our youth. What counts now is how this young girl and her family have chosen to deal with it. Life, marriage, and commitment is a pretty good choice.
Posted by: Reality on September 1, 2008 11:52 AM"I don't think he is ready." "The presidency is not something that lend's itseld to on the job training"
Posted by: Say_No_To_BO on September 1, 2008 11:54 AMThe situation with Palin's 17-yr. old daughter has been transparently exposed - so what's your problem ? (as if I don't know already). The daughter made a bad choice, but at least they are going to live with the consequences and learn and have the full support from their family. I know it's tough for progressives to wrap their brain around that compassionate attitude from a conservative, but maybe progressives could really surprise us by telling the truth for a change about their candidate - Obambam, as he is expert as concealing skeletons in his closet.
Posted by: KS on September 1, 2008 11:58 AMIs the birthrate higher in liberal states among children? I doubt it.
It would seem that a conservative upbringing isn't always sufficient. You yourself note that belief in "family values" isn't sufficient to make the problem go away. I don't agree with you - I think making sure your children have lots of practice at making decisions and learning from their mistakes is important before the decisions they make have lifelong consequences.
I hope she does marry the father, I hope together they can support their new family, and it's unfortunate that this child/mother will have the level of attention that circumstances have placed on her. It will be tough enough.
Posted by: BA on September 1, 2008 11:59 AMDisaffected Troll - You are a liar unless you can say you have ever voted for a Republican for President and name who ? Also, who did you vote for Governor of WA in 2004 ? I won't hold my breath.
#8 - Why do you care what Karl Rove says ? He was off and besides he is seen as a scoundrel by the left...
Posted by: KS on September 1, 2008 12:03 PM" pbj, what evidence do you have that liberals want their children to have sex outside of marriage?
Is the birthrate higher in liberal states among children? I doubt it."
There you go with the straw men again. Where did I state that liberals want their children to have sex outside of marriage?
What I said is that conservatives ask their children to abstain from sex. Liberal mock the "just say no" message.
Unless we are talking immaculate conception, it is pretty hard to get pregnant without sexual intercourse.
Posted by: pbj on September 1, 2008 12:04 PMA VP with a drinking problem [Joe Biden]or a VP with a near adult daughter pregnant and planning to marry the father[Palin].
I think most would agree the former is more disturbing than the latter.
Posted by: Rick D. on September 1, 2008 12:05 PMLook for an utter tsunami of money, support and enthusiasm, and it is just getting started...
Meanwhile, SarahCuda will cling to her Bible, her guns, relate to the little people and bring PA, MI, OH solidly into the McCain column, destroying BO's candidacy.
Then, known as a ferocious debater, hand Biden his asshat.....
Heh heh.....
Posted by: Hank on September 1, 2008 12:18 PM"that is why conservatives ask them to abstain from sex at that age (contrary to libs)."
Read your own sentence.
You are the one that needs to reread and reread that sentence. Where in that sentence does the word marriage appear? Nowhere at all.
Liberals mock the "say no to sex" message. Do you deny that?
Posted by: pbj on September 1, 2008 12:48 PMLiberals tell their kids to practice safe sex so they don't get pregnant.
Why do these things always happen to Republican trailer trash?
Posted by: Crusader on September 1, 2008 12:51 PMAs for her daughter, well, yes, things do happen but could it be that maybe Sarah isn't around enough to pay attention? Is becoming VP going to help her with her mothering? I'd be willing to bet that her daughter will be divorced in 5 years. Seventeen is not the time to get married, baby or not.
Look for Joe Biden's drinking problem to become a major issue in this election which will minimize Palin's near adult daughters pregnancy. It's a rare thing these days to marry the father, especially amongst the liberal set who, had they been been the father, would have left Anchorage on the first plane out.
Posted by: Rick D. on September 1, 2008 01:04 PMYou prove my point. Liberals tell their kids to go have sex. And if the condom breaks, well they can just suck the baby's brains out with a vacuumn. No responsibility necessary. Very opposite to the message conservatives send.
Keep talking libs. You prove my point with every letter you type.
Posted by: pbj on September 1, 2008 01:05 PM"In the Palin household, walking out of consequences does not involve abortion. With mom, it means raising a Down Syndrome child. With Bristol, it will be growing up and facing tough responsibilities earlier than planned. In all cases, the child is a blessing and not considered "a consequence." These so-called problems can be fabulous teaching opportunities and even political wins if they are framed correctly."
Why bother combatting it? Okay, so Bristol, 17, sinned. She's also making good on it. I don't see this becoming a bonafide scandal. Yes, the catcalls will come, but they will only embarrass the left. Contrast Palin with Obama, who, if it were his daughter, would consider it "punishment". -Posted by: Joe | September 1, 2008 01:50 PM
You just don't get it. When a Gore child is caught speeding down the highway with drugs, it is not the parent's fault. When a Kennedy relative is accused of rape while Uncle Ted is at the party, it is not the Senator's fault. When the President is caught getting serviced by an unpaid intern, it is not the President's fault. If an unmarried daughter of a VP candidate is found to be pregnant, it is the fault of the neandrathal Republican party and it's abstinence only, pro-life, anti-woman platforms. Posted by: halfacarafe | September 1, 2008 01:53 PM
I would imagine families across America are going through the same experience as the Palin family and might not appreciate mockery and ridicule of their own lives; teens get pregnant this is a fact of life.I admire her choice to marry the father and raise their family, it won't be easy but then again when is life ever that easy. I wish her all the best. Posted by: syn | September 1, 2008 02:12 PM
Considering Barry called a child in this situation "punishment"; I don't see the inherent problem. Considering Barry's statements and the infanticide votes; do the Dims want to make this about children and abortion? Posted by: American Thinker Fan | September 1, 2008 02:13 PM
This girl is a fraud. She may be a good mother, and may actually be trying to clean up Alaska's criminal Republiconvict Party, and I think that is great. As far as being qualified to take on Putin or Iran's leader if McCain drops. Give me a break. All her PTA experience ain't gonna cut it.
The party's leaders are going crazy. McCain just conceded picking a rookie for VP, just because she can warm up their (the world is only 6,000 years old) base.
McCain. The gift that just keeps on giving.....
Maverick? How about moron?
I just wonder what the name of the (never made) pilot was, that was passed over to give almost last in his class McCain flight training. Gosh it sure helps having an Admiral for a daddy, and granddaddy. Just ask the shrub.
Posted by: All Facts Support My Positions on September 1, 2008 01:17 PMI know that the trolls from the left have their skivees in a wad before Obama was supposed to have had a bounce after the convention and be up by 15 points, but McCain's uncanny timing suppressed that bounce and took the oxygen out the room.
Look, this thing is not going to be easy and will be a fight to the finish - that is the reality. I know that you on the left have a problem in handling the truth, but if you and your leftist cohorts want to be careless and throw the election to McCain, have at it. We all know there is a lot riding on this election. Do we want to continue to be the USA that has achieved greatness or do we want to be an extension of the European Union under tutelage of the corrupt UN ?
If you want the later, your vote is for Obama/Biden or you could always do us a favor and emigrate to Europe, Cuba or Venezuela.
Posted by: KS on September 1, 2008 01:24 PMIt was, more or less, an open secret. And everyone was saying the same thing: the governor's 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, the father is her boyfriend, and it's really nobody's business beyond that.
People in Wasilla are Alaskan tough, so not only does a thing like teen pregnancy not seem like anyone's damn business, but it's also not seen as the calamity so many people in the lower 48 might think it is. This is dangerous country -- it's not just the roughneck jobs on cable reality shows. It's real life here. I listened to the absolutely heartbreaking story of how the godfather of Track Palin, Sarah's oldest son, died in small plane crash just minutes after having dropped off four kids. Another family invited me into their home and told their incredible story; with one son in Iraq, their other son was working on a conveyor line in Anchorage, got caught in the belt and had his head partially crushed. He lived to stand across the kitchen table from me and his parents, looking fully healed just three months later, grinning at his dumb luck and wondering what comes next in life. "It makes you realize that a thing like a little teenage pregnancy isn't such a big deal," his mom said. "Bristol--and lots of other girl like her out there -- are going to be just fine."
..yet the Chicago signature gatherer will? That is just laughable on its face. The wannabe boy king has made zero executive decisons in his political life while Palin has made countless as both a Mayor and Governor. Add in the fact that 0bama's #2 has a drinking problem and you have the perfect failed ticket.
Posted by: Rick D. on September 1, 2008 01:28 PM"I believe Sarah Palin and Barack Obama are both qualified to be vice president. The Democrats just have their ticket upside down."-Doug Patton September 1, 2008 Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on September 1, 2008 01:39 PM
Any take on Biden's drinking problem BA? or will you just pull the covers over your head and pretend it isn't there?
Posted by: Rick D. on September 1, 2008 01:39 PMGeorge W. Bush, President of the United states from 2005:
"And now the best he can do is look out the window of his plane at the hurricane. His government says he'd like to visit--maybe even tomorrow--but the White House wants to make sure the president doesn't impede the rescue effort."
BOOM! Another liberal sacred cow shot dead!
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on September 1, 2008 01:49 PMSenator Obama's first public show of male chauvinism was in Detroit in May. Detroit reporter Peggy Agar asked a question about help for local autoworkers and received this response from Senator Obama: "Hold on one second sweetie"; he also ignored her question.
Now, on Sixty Minutes, he describes Governor Sarah Palin: "Obviously, she's a fine mother and an up-and-coming public servant." So, the three year Senator from Illinois now refers to the two year Governor of Alaska as an "fine mother and an up-and-coming public servant." Oh my God!
BOOM! Another liberal sacred cow shot dead!
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on September 1, 2008 01:57 PM"Near adult" I like that term, kind of like "just a little bit pregnant".
Biden has a drinking problem - if it isn't under control that's a problem. We've had presidents that have addressed their drinking problems and served.
Posted by: BA on September 1, 2008 01:57 PMI certainly don't. Astonishingly, the chicago signature gatherer disagrees.
Empty suit/Drunk ..the 2008 DNC ticket
Posted by: Rick D. on September 1, 2008 02:00 PMTeaching strong values, making sure our kids practice decision making, and being educated about how to prevent pregnancies and the responsibilities that automatically are part of a decision not to abstain seems to help reduce the teenage pregnancy rate. I think you need to do all of these, not some of them.
Katomar, what's a hypocrit? Something to do with needles?
Posted by: BA on September 1, 2008 02:12 PM...Any opinion of your drunken #2 nominee in that video i provided @ 39?
Posted by: Rick D. on September 1, 2008 02:15 PMPredictions
I have contributed money to McC in the past and believed in his patriotism. I have castigated liberal friends for what I saw as unfair cuts at McCain for his marrying into wealth, brown nosing the radical religionists, etc.
Now, I am convinced that he is in the tradition of self serving pols with no more love for his country than for one of his mansions.
The USA can NOT take another Reprican who leads with guidance from the radical religious Christians. We need a pragmatic, scientific approach to rebuilding our alliances, to global warming, to education, etc.
McCain's bizarre choice of Palin establishes an amazing level of irresponsibility. Appointing Palin is akin appointing Clarence Thomas, Alberto Gonzales, etc. The entire Bush II and now McCain eras are reminiscent of Reconstruction when African Americans were appointed to government by carpet baggers with no real respect for the people of the South.
The election of GWB itself was a similar example. We now know that many high level Repubs were aware of George's lack of the qualities needed to be a President. They put party politics above patriotism.
The issue is not party ideology, this is an issue of personal patriotism. McCain has shown that he cares less for his country than he does for getting elected.
At a minimum, Pain implies a serious lack of judgment. So. Since SJ believes there are patriotic, good red wearing Republicans, I am watching for this:
1. Outrage over Palin from Hillary, NARAL, Sierra Club, etc. I know these foks were already supporting BHO, but McC just gave them red meat.
2. Criticism of Palin for her neglect of her own family, including her decision to have unprotected sex KNOWING she had a high probability of producing a Down's child.
3. Further lack of support for JMcC from Wall street. Perhaps open support for Obama from Buffett, Pickens, et al.
4. Out and out endorsement of BHO by Hagel, Luger, and Powell.
Posted by: SeattleJew on September 1, 2008 02:19 PMI am listening to Ed Schultz on AM1090. It is getting comical.
This lady is not fit to be vp. Sorry. You can type till the cows come home. I am as qualified to be vp as she is. Probably more.
Face it. This bizarre pick is backfiring on Mr. Flip Flop right now. The skeletons are dropping and the chickens are coming home roosting all over their pathetic convention for the benefit of the lobbyists.
Posted by: All Facts Support My Positions on September 1, 2008 02:22 PMAha. So you're the one still listening. I thought that Err America went out of business. Apparently they're still on life support with money supplied by the boys and girls club of America fraudulently taken from that organization and filtered to buoy the failed network.
Another Liberal pilfering of children's piggy banks to supplant their own personal propaganda. Disgusting doesn't even begin to describe that kind of action by "progressives".
Posted by: Rick D. on September 1, 2008 02:30 PMSurely one of the most despicable comments I've ever read at Sound Politics. Speaking for my sister who also had a child at the age of 44 and many other women who choose to have children when they are over 40 I am totally disgusted.
What I can't wait to see is how Biden handles a debate with her. The architect of VAWA, which he did entirely for political gain regardless of the negative impact on families, who fuels the flames of gender feminist victim-ism. How is going to go up against an attractive woman who thinks his policies are full of crap?
At first, I thought McCain was nuts for choosing her. But now I realize that his 72 year old mind works better than mine. The choice of Palin was a masterstroke of genius. Every item the Dems might attack her actually ends up being an attack on Obama. Hilarious!
Posted by: BananaLand on September 1, 2008 06:50 PMI fully respect those who believe in right to life. I also respect parents with the courage and love to raise a disabled baby. I do nto respect anyone who intentional creates a bacy with Down's syndrome.
Do you also condone unprotected sex when one partner has AIDS knowing the probability of passing this on to an infant?
How high does the risk have to be before creating a babay with this much diability is not moral?
If Palin is a devout believer in right to life, either she is too ignorant to understand the risk she was taking or she thinks it is moral to have a baby when she knows the risk is this high!
Posted by: SeattleJew on September 1, 2008 06:56 PMAfter comparing and contrasting the Governor Palin postings, it should be clear to you by now why Jesus condemned the pharisees as the children (genetic psychopathic descendants) of Satan. The pharisees, and their mattoidal myrmidons, did not go away, they just changed their names. Do a thorough word search on "pharisee." They have always tried to parasite, degrade and destroy any culture superior to theirs, which most cultures are. Their current cover is to call themselves "progressives", "liberals," "communists," "ecoterrorists," "evolutionists," "feminists," "pro-choice," etc.
Understand that they always try to destroy what is true, and good, and just, and beautiful by their words first. They are experts at superficial rhetoric, as you have experienced above; but they have no wisdom, heart, or soul -- they are irredeemably evil. Jesus knew this, He exposed them, and they killed Him -- by their words.
In Genesis they are called the seed of the serpent (Satan), and the good guys (us) are called the seed of the woman (Eve), and both seeds were projected to be in constant, deadly battle. The only problem is that we haven't been fighting the battle; we've been scammed into inaction -- until now.
The pharisaic reaction to the most righteous Governor Sarah Palin is clearly hysterical and demented beyond all reason unless you understand what she represents to the pharisee: She represents their death. Beneath all the varnish, she carries a cross in one hand, a sword in the other, and holy fire in her eyes.
Just examine their comments, or their fear of comment, to this post. Take comfort; you're on the right side. Now fight the good fight, beside Sarah -- the woman.
Posted by: The Pirate on September 1, 2008 07:04 PMAre you done making an ass of yourself yet? So anything other than normal is to be thrown away? you're one sick puppy seattlejew. You're a disgrace to your religion.
Posted by: Rick D. on September 1, 2008 07:21 PMShe didn't "intentionally create a Down's kid"... she intentionally created a child, then found out it had Down's Syndrome. Are you saying women over 40 shouldn't be allowed to have children then? Or should all Down's children be aborted?
For once I agree with demo kid. You are absolutely disgusting.
Posted by: Mike H on September 1, 2008 07:34 PMPosted by: pbj on September 1, 2008 09:10 PM
I don't respect any adult with a computer who can't compose a simple sentence containing proper spelling.
I don't know anyone who intentionally "creates" a disabled child OR anyone who is stupid enough to really believe an extra chromosome is within any parents control.
I do know ONE in particular who would stick the child in a dirty closet to die.
bHo ... "If my daughter makes a mistake I don't want her punished with a child."
PALIN ... "As our daughter faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support."
You decide.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31105_Alan_Colmes_Sewer_Diver
The more desperate they get, the scummier they get.
Posted by: hinton on September 1, 2008 11:29 PM1. The pharisees were the leaders of the liberation movement .. your Jesus was a lay pharisee preacher.
2. They are NOT mentioned in Genesis.
3. If you really wann get mad take a look at Goldie's announcement about who is the father of the unborn child. Just don;t balme me if he gets you mad. Some of us Pahrisees can get pretty fucking sarcastic!
sad.
Posted by: SeattleJew on September 2, 2008 12:11 AMFirst, when you care at all about others. let me know. I have very strong feelings about human life. I am jealous of societies like Holland that actually out resources into such kids that lets them achieve whatever they can.
Moreover, if you look at other blogs, you may be surprised to see my position on I-1000.
This is NOT an issue of compassion for Palin's child. It is an issue of her terrible judgment.
So tell me, what would you do if you already had 4 kids knew you had one chance in twenty of conceiving a severely disabled chils:
a. abstain from sex.
b. use "protection"
c. just intentionally go ahead, assuming God would have his way?
No one forced her to have sex!
Posted by: SeattleJew on September 2, 2008 12:20 AMOn the other hand, you owe me an effin aplogy. You said, You know, for a Jew, you sure sound like a Nazi. I'm sorry, but the whole "it's immoral to not have a perfectly healthy child" sounds like something straight out of Mien Kampf.
Preety noice throwing around N words! Maybe you ought to be sure you are quoting what I said!
I not only never said the words in your quite, I abhor them and wonder what sort of a person would say such a thing?
One of the worst traits of Goebels was his willingness to plant words in Jews' mouths. Are you joining his club?
As for what YOU DID say, you claim She didn't "intentionally create a Down's kid"... she intentionally created a child, then found out it had Down's Syndrome. Are you saying women over 40 shouldn't be allowed to have children then? Or should all Down's children be aborted?
As I said there are three interpretations what we know now:
1. She was unaware of the risk of Downs
This is the only possibility that is not immoral but it is a sad comment on her knowedge.
2. She was aware but did not care.
Immoral is a mild phrase for this.
3. the love making was an accident
As sad as this might be, if this is true I would admire her willingness to accept the responsibility of her actions.
Posted by: SeattleJew on September 2, 2008 12:34 AMSo tell me, if two parents with some disease that causes terribel suffering, e.g. AIDS. willingly make a baby is that OK too?
Maybe your God is different then the one I have read about, but in most religions God lest people make mistakes and that oincludes mjistakes that can hurt others.
BTW, exaclty what in my words allows YOU to claim I would NOT want any baby cared for? I do think thow who claim to respect life ought to accept the reponsibility of their actions even if that means abstaining from unprotected sex.
Posted by: SeattleJew on September 2, 2008 12:40 AM
Suffice it to say I pointed out WITH EXAMPLES exactly how moronic "seattle jew" is on every level....
What Holland provided:
Money so one parent could stay at hime for the child's early life.
Special schools for kids like him that trained him to want and be able to function in a normal class. The kid is actually quite popular.
Education to help the other children not only tolerate this diabled guy buut take pride in his achievements.
IMPRESSIVE!
BTW, my brother adopted a child with a disability and we love her dearly. I would give people like Palin more credit if they made more of such efforts.
BTW, to be fair to the US, the State of NY has also been very good about helping my niece and she is doing well!
I read what you wrote... the only logical thing that one can take from it was that it is immoral for women over the age of 40 to have children because there is a risk the child might have a defect of some sort, and that intentionally bringing a "defective" child into this world is immoral. Stop and think about that. Sorry, but the last group who talked like that tried to wipe your people off the face of the planet. You of all people should know better than that.
By the way, the chances of a women having a child with Down's in her early 40's is 1-2%. Not really a high risk.
Hell, when demo kid is calling you out on it, you know you have gone off the deep end.
Posted by: Mike H on September 2, 2008 01:11 AMAs pointed out to you Seattlejew, the odds are only increased with the mother's age and still fairly low at that. The key to not keep digging yourself into a hole is to get rid of the shovel.
Posted by: Rick D. on September 2, 2008 07:25 AMBTW, that is not very different than the odds of a bay getting HIV from an infected Mom .. another thing that I regard as immoral! Do you condone HIV infected woman who have babies?
I have a good friend who is a truly wonderful fundamentalist. What I admire about this man is his consistency. *In a siutuation like this, my friend would first want to assure that the child got care and then, quietly, suggest to Ms. Palin that she buy some condoms.
BTW ... she is NOT a catholic. Does her religion prohibit condoms?
Posted by: SeattleJew on September 2, 2008 08:46 AMSo tell me Mike H and others here, would your compassion and support for this choice be the same if she were some HIV infected Mom? Or is that different?
BTW, having decded to make this babay (assuming Track is not a love child), are you aware that his parents do not intend to devote their own time to the special care he will need? Apparently the plan is for Palin's sistet to be the care giver.
Look, the issue here is not caring for a Down's child or Ms. Palin's belief in the moment of life. The issue is with her assumptionj that her pleasure in having a child (or in a having a moment of sex) outweighed the all to real risk she had assumed when she commited to a right to life.
FWIW, my wife and I gave a lot of thought to this before having our lids (i our thirties). Fortunately both are fine, but I honestly do not know what I would have wanted if, like Ms. Pain we learned that the bay was to be a Down's lid (odds were then 1/500).
At the time we had not arrived at a clear position on right to life. As a scientist I likes the argument that a conceptus is "life" since all the unique information for an individual comes into being when the to half genomes of the sperm and egg become one. Later, I cam to feel this was not life, in part because I am aware that the consequences of such a belief would require a lot of effort to block the huge (1/3) incidence of spontaneous abortions.
I also began to feel that parents who choose to have a seriously afflicted conceptus are also choosing not to give birth to some other individual, of equal merit by any standard, who might have been created if they tried again.
Frankly, I feel sorry for this kid and hope Track, now a human being like anyone else, will have the good luck of finding someone with the care and time t give him a chance at a good life.
Posted by: SeattleJew on September 2, 2008 09:08 AMSeattleJew says: The pharisees were the leaders of the liberation movement .. your Jesus was a lay pharisee preacher.
Matthew 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming for his baptism, he said to them, "You offspring of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Matthew 5:20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, there is no way you will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven
Matthew 12:14 But the Pharisees went out, and conspired against him, how they might destroy him
Matthew 16:6 Jesus said to them, "Take heed and beware of the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees
The Pharisees liberated nothing, they were sociopathic mass murderers. Jesus was certainly not a Pharisee, just as America is certainly not a "Judeo"- Christian nation.
SeattleJew says: They are NOT mentioned in Genesis.
Jesus not only mentions SeattleJew's ancestors in Genesis, e.g., Cain slaying Abel, but he says their descendants will be held accountable for those crimes!
27 "How horrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees! You hypocrites! You are like whitewashed graves that look beautiful on the outside but inside are full of dead people's bones and every kind of impurity. 28 So on the outside you look as though you have God's approval, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.
29 "How horrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees! You hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the monuments of those who had God's approval. 30 Then you say, 'If we had lived at the time of our ancestors, we would not have helped to murder the prophets.' 31 So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Go ahead, finish what your ancestors started! 33 "You snakes! You poisonous snakes! How can you escape being condemned to hell?
34 I'm sending you prophets, wise men, and teachers of the Scriptures. You will kill and crucify some of them. Others you will whip in your synagogues and persecute from city to city. 35 As a result, you will be held accountable for all the innocent blood of those murdered on earth, from the murder of righteous Abel to that of Zechariah, son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36 I can guarantee this truth: The people living now will be held accountable for all these things.
SeattleJew says: If you really wann get mad take a look at Goldie's announcement about who is the father of the unborn child. Just don;t balme me if he gets you mad. Some of us Pahrisees can get pretty fucking sarcastic!
Clearly, the obscene SeattleJew and Seattle Jew Goldstein are of the same cloth. They damn themselves, as their people always have, throughout history. We follow Jesus and the Bible, not the jew/Pharisees who are the enemies of Jesus, the Bible, and, in this case, Governor Sarah Palin. Time to execute judgment.
McCain and Palin are going to change places after the election and she will be the POTUS and he will be the Veep. The reason being she won't have to commute and there are more bedrooms in the WH for her extended family.
There is no law against it. Its not unconstitutional. Thee is nothing the Dems can do because the team of McCain and Palin have been constitutionally elected, under the Electoral College.
Posted by: barrackslawyer on September 2, 2008 09:43 PM