August 29, 2008
Hilarious VP twist - Updated thrice with Palin discussion
As of this typing, a furious pace of media reporting this morning - mostly online - has deduced that Tim Pawlenty and Mitt Romney are not McCain's VP selection. Likewise, a rapid and intriguing boomlet for Sarah Palin has risen and fallen as an aide reports her home in Alaska. Evidently it's not Joe Lieberman either (thank God!).
Two names not mentioned in the flurry who were part of the serious VP buzz in recent weeks: Eric Cantor and Bobby Jindal. Either would be more interesting than, say, Rob Portman.
Give the McCain camp credit: we're roughly three hours away from the announcement and no word has leaked publicly - which by the way has all of the media focused on figuring out who it is rather than continuing to discuss Obama's speech.
And whoever the choice is, this mind-boggling blizzard of speculation is the perfect example of how crazy, and indeed pointless, the VP guessing game can be.
Meanwhile, I go back to hitting refresh here, here, here, here, and here.
UPDATE: if the "Palin is in Alaska" report is a head fake, which it might well be, here are my initial thoughts on her, as typed up originally this morning:
Current media reports and blog buzz indicate Tim Pawlenty and Mitt Romney are not McCain's VP choice; it might well be Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.
If so, she's represents a unique combination of McCain's reformer ethos coupled with staunch conservative credentials.
She wouldn't be a safe pick, but she wouldn't be a "surprise" either since she's been in the VP picture for months (see SP coverage, complete with some still relevant profile links, back in September of 2007 here and here).
If she can perform well on the national political stage she could be a home run. Either way, a Palin pick would be a very good choice by most most metrics, though not risk free.
UPDATE II: Looks increasingly like it's Palin. Bold pick. Huge upside for conservative enthusiasm. Probably significant upside as well for telling her story nationally to general election voters. Of the serious VP contenders, perhaps the most difficult for Democrats to attack. What are they going to do, complain she's too inexperienced?
The only real question mark with Palin is how will she fare in the grind of a national ticket race? Only time will tell with that.
Here are the Palin profiles from Fred Barnes and Patrick Ruffini I've linked to in the past.
Meanwhile, what is this Obama speech buzz of which you speak?
UPDATE III: I think somewhere Jim Webb, Democratic Senator of Born Fighting notoriety, is shaking his head.
Palin and her family are in many ways the essence of the qualities that Webb (and the authors of the Grand New Party) identifies as those which draw the true swing demographic in national American politics. Call them Scots-Irish, call them Jacksonians, call them "white, working class voters": a McCain-Palin ticket has a much better chance of resonating with them than Obama-Biden.
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Posted by Eric Earling at August 29, 2008
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1. Although I will not be casting a vote for McCain/who ever, I endorse the selection of Palin. If it happens turn out the lights, the Party's over and Obama suffers the biggest rout since McGovern.
Looks like the private plane that flew Sarah Palin to Dayton, Ohio (or did it?) has filed plans to leave the Dayton airport at 10:30 a.m. EDT (a few minutes ago) and arrive at the Snohomish County Airport at 11:59 a.m. PDT.
Obviously, Palin is NOT flying back in that same plane. The plane is owned by Gypsy Two LLC out of Kirkland, Washington. This LLC is owned by W. Dean Weidner, who is apparently a major Republican.
Maybe Eric will be able to stay in his present position for a few more years ...
What does your post have to do with anything?
Is this your attempt at a cheap shot? How about, while he may keep his position for a few more years, you'll spend a few more years attempting to get a job.
Watch the Hillary women voters blow their tops.
Great pick McCain.
This is going to be a riot! LOL
5. This pick is an ace.
Maybe Mr. Pope can explain to us why Obama big supporters had a ABC news reporter bullied by cops after taking pictures of them.
What, have something to hide do they?
So Pope, Mr. Lawyer. Tell us again about Obama's free speech ideas!
Palin is an interesting choice - who knows how it will play? It has the appearance of a long shot pass late in the game.
She has been a breath of fresh air in Alaska and by most all accounts a great Governor. But boy, the standard of ethical conduct in Alaska seemed to be pretty low. And I'm not sure she'd take the same stand on earmarks as McCain, even though she spoke against the bridge to nowhere.
Now just wait for the response at McCain not picking Romney after Mitt ran all those ads attacking McCain. Was Romney speaking the truth?
8. Looks like the Glass Ceiling just fell on Obama...
9. Wow! Palin - a mainstream American woman who is "articulate, bright, clean and nice-looking." What say you, Joe Biden?
10. I love the smell of napalm in the morning.
Well, the flight I referenced is the one folks are speculating flew Palin from Anchorage to Dayton yesterday. It left Anchorage at 12:14 p.m. Alaska time yesterday and arrive in Dayton at 10:14 p.m. Eastern time. (There is four hour clock ahead difference between Alaska and Ohio, so Palin had to leave relatively early from Alaska yesterday, if she is indeed in Ohio.)
If this is true, I have to give Palin's folks in Alaska credit for covering for his possible disappearance. If she managed to fly out of Anchorage at noon yesterday, the press didn't really find any evidence in Alaska that the governor suddenly left the state.
McCain should get credit for savvy execution of all this. Beats the hell out of getting a text message in the middle of the night from Obama, after his VP choice had been all over the media for several hours.
A chill has gone up my leg.
As I have said for a long time, I think it is a good time to let the young 'uns take over the R party and see what happens.
She will handle the pressure just fine, thank you. I believe she was also Miss Alaska at one time or another; now that is a pressure cooker. There certainly isn't pressure in Alaska as governor, though.
13. Damn it !!! If he wanted a woman governor, how come he didn't ask Gregoire, she would have switched parties for the VP I am sure.
14. Interesting pick. After weeks of hearing the McCain campaign talk about how Obama is too young and inexperienced to be Commander in Chief, the oldest non-incumbent to ever win the GOP nomination, picks a person even younger and more inexperienced to be the person "one heartbeat away" from the oval office.
15. JDH.......I support your endorsement of Palin but, not on your refusal to vote for McCain. However, I find that McCain has a lot of liberal blood in his veins. I also, agree if the choice is Palin, the Party's over and Obama is history. Plus, I think if things go reasonably well, the Democrats are going to be taking the back seat for sometime into the near future.
16. I like Palin but would have preferred Heather Wilson as someone that has military,national security, and domestic policy experience.
17. Absolutely brilliant, if Gov. Palin is Sen. McCain's choice we are moving in the right direction. Fiscal conservative, social conservative, able to take on entrenched and sometimes corrupt politicians. Sarah has cleaned house in Juneau while raising a family.
There's no other choice for 70 percent of Americans.
McCain-Palin landslide in 2008!
Finally a reason to vote besides just voting against Obama. I am finally jazzed. "Palin - McCain 2008"
would be even better.
Palin vs Clinton in 2012.
The Ervin J. Nutter Center at Wright State University, where McCain (and Palin?) will be speaking shortly, has a maximum capacity of 12,000 (probably in a concert configuration).
From what I have seen on CNN, the facility looks pretty packed. Maybe they configured it to reduce the available seats, so that it would look more full. But even so, there has to be at least several thousand people attending.
To date, McCain has held events in smaller seating capacity venues, since he doesn't have the crowd drawing power of Obama. But if McCain is able to start drawing even several thousands of people, versus Obama's tens of thousands, that might be showing some strong enthusiasm for McCain.
21. I also think it's a brilliant choice, given that Palin is a good, solid conservative with an impressive resume. However, it also saddens me that this reflects the reality of our electorate. Too many voters will be making their decisions based entirely on race or gender this time around, without even bothering to think about issues. However, given that reality, Palin is a smart choice.
Do I take it by update #3 that Palin is the chosen one?
I had this inkling a few days ago. McCain is obsessed with getting Hillary voters to come over to him. He flirted with Lieberman, but wised up to the fact that it would be a disaster with the right wing of the party. Palin's stock grew, especially after Hillary's endorsement of Barack the other night. McCain is desperate to gain the female Hillary voter. It reminds me of the movie Swing Vote where each candidate bent over backwards, adjusting their opinion to fit the voter they had targeted. What's next, will McCain also announce standing for "equal-pay-for-equal-work." Don't get me wrong, Palin isn't a bad choice, but Romney was a slam dunk. Maybe in the end, it came down to the same reason Obama didn't choose Hillary. McCain probably felt he couldn't work day-to-day with Romney, like Obama knew in his heart he couldn't govern with Hillary and Bill chomping at him day in and day out.
Clearly the knee-jerk reaction of the Democrats will be to bring up the experience thing. But, I think that is part of the calculation by the McCain camp. In addition to her coming out better on that score than Obama (executive experience at any level is important - and even a short stint as a governor trumps Obama), the GOP is hoping the Democrats keep the argument focused on experience.
At the end of the day, it is the top of the ticket that matters, and if the Democrats want to voluntarily prolong the debate about lack of experience, I am confident the McCain team would revel in that for the remainder of the campaign.
I can support and perhaps even think about voting for this ticket. If I do, it will be a vote for Palin. You can go back half a decade and see that I have consistently said right here that two decades ago I stated that I would never cast a vote for McCain for any office. Since then he has dry shaved the conservative base repeatedly.
@23: "Clearly the knee-jerk reaction of the Democrats will be to bring up the experience thing."
LOL. I must have missed something, I thought it was the Republicans that have been bring up "the experience thing" for the last 3 months.
26. I know very little about her, but it sounds like she has a tremendous amount of personal courage that is badly needed in DC. If our nation really wants "change", having a VP who's a complete outsider is more likely to bring it than good old Joe Biden.
27. Before I make any further judgement I would like to hear/see Ms Palin sing 'The Villages' :)
A fantastic and brilliant choice in Palin. The thing I like most about McCain is that he is a scrappy fighter and strategist. Exactly the kind of qualities I want in a President and someone who is slapping down the Marxists like Obama.
And Palin is great in her own right. She's done a good job with Alaska cleaning up government, she is eloquent and charismatic. She will line up well against Biden. She will make Biden's smarmy style stick out like a sore thumb.
And she will get a lot of the Hillary vote.
Splinter @ 25:
There has been nothing "knee jerk" about the GOP addressing the issue of experience. It has been a very deliberate communication strategy.
I'll stick with what I said: the Democrats will likely react in a knee-jerk fashion regarding the experience issue. However that reactive approach will serve only to highlight the Obama experience issue even more.
Again, if the Democrats want that issue to be the focus, there will be many happy Republican strategists...
30. Liberals (even on this blog) are already playing into McCain's hands. By picking Palin, as qualified as Obama by any measure, he is daring libs to call her a "token woman" or "beauty queen pick" or some other insulting term which minimizes Palin's actual accomplishments and talents. This will only serve to make THEM look like small minded sexists, and anger women voters who just want women to be taken seriously. Palin is a brilliant young politician who bucked the GOP establishment in Alaska. Anyone seen as unfairly picking on her just on the basis of her gender or good looks will be helping McCain and hurting Obama. Democrats are not beyond trashing women and minorities. Just ask Hillary and Condi Rice.
Good choice for VP, nothing like McCain-Ferraro '08. Two losers for the 21st Century.
I hear Palin is gay-friendly, which is bad news for the Religious Wing.
32. And she will get a lot of the Hillary vote.
Problem with this statement is that Palin staunchly Pro-Life, has a long record of being Pro-Life (appeals well to the GOP base), and in case you haven't noticed the majority of Hillary supporters are Pro-Choice. To me abortion seems like a make or break issue for most Hillary supporters. While they may not like Obama, they certainly want to keep Roe vs Wade on the books.
Some people thought McCain was Pro-Choice, this pick signals that he's very interested in eliminating a woman's right to choose while diminishing her ability to purchase contraceptives over the counter. That's not going to go over well with the Hillary folks.
@31 - Hardly gay friendly, although somewhat for a Republican.
"Palin's first veto was used to block legislation that would have barred the state from granting benefits to the partners of gay state employees." wiki
Can someone help me out here; I'm trying to decide on who I'd prefer as Vice-President of the United States of America.
or Joe Biden
35. What's the problem Mr Realdumb, afraid of a strong woman???? And I do mean a strong woman with real tallent and who has taken on corrupt politicians within her own Party in AK. Unlike the common garden variety Democrat who is trotted out as a "strong woman" but is recognized by all and sundry as little more than a harpy with nothing of substance to recomend her - Palin is an accomplished woman of substance.
@33 - That to me signals that she is homo-friendly. A true conservative would be against giving special rights" to homosexuals.
Conservative TV preachers claim that the homosexual lifestyle is responsible for Hurricanes (Katrina), Earthquakes (SF quake), and even 9/11. Palin is an enabler of sin!! By being soft on Homosexual's she should be held personally responsible for bringing Katrina and 9/11 to American shores!!
Sarah Palin---AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is going to cost me though. Now I have to donate to 'McCain for President.'
Sarah Palin. YAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Sarah Palin---AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is going to cost me though. Now I have to donate to 'McCain for President.' Damn.
Sarah Palin. YAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Love hearing dems now ask the question if a woman can be vp because of her family and not being there to raise them. Hillarious!!!
Just like when black politicians aren't liberal...they are uncle tom's. They are such an "open tent" party.
I've been hearing about her for quite some time. All of it good.
I think she is a great choice for VP. One thing she is not is one of the gold ol' boys from D.C.
@36 "Conservative TV preachers claim that the homosexual lifestyle is responsible for Hurricanes (Katrina), Earthquakes (SF quake), and even 9/11. Palin is an enabler of sin!! By being soft on Homosexual's she should be held personally responsible for bringing Katrina and 9/11 to American shores!!"
and the mainstream among the left ie. those with a seat at the current Dem convention, is responsible for saying that Ronald Reagan is responsible for developing and spreading the AIDS virus among other things.
So what Mr Realdumb?? If you were not a moron that you manifest yourself to be you sould be able to answer this question.
42. Omigod, another Repubilcan who says "nucular". Can she spell "potato"?
@35 - Was the GOP afraid of a strong woman in 1984? Ferraro was a six year Rep. from NY who worked diligently in her job. Barbara Bush implied the Ferraro was a bitch, so much for the GOP liking strong women.
Besides McCain just lost the Mormon vote by skipping over Romeny for a working woman.
44. russell, yes this will cost me too. I wouldn't have given a wooden nickel if not for this pick. I suspect I will give $500 plus over the course of the campaign now.
45. Cato/Mr.Realist, Please use just one Moniker. Nice to know you are so in touch with the Morman vote.
46. Ferraro is and was a died in the wool hard core leftwing dingbat. So if that is your definition of a woman of substance -> go with it.
A Great choice!
Bring em on!
48. Ronald Reagan is responsible for developing and spreading the AIDS virus among other things.
That's not what they said at all. They say that Reagan didn't do squat to slow down the spread of AIDS (he could have had the Surgeon General/CDC look into it) which is a FACT. Reagan didn't even acknowledge the problem of AIDS until his good friend Rock Hudson died.
A more common theory is blaming Reagan for the Crack Epidemic which happened under his watch. It didn't help that Reagan Administration was cutting blank checks to drug dealers...I mean 'Contra freedom fighters'.
The Crack/Contra theory combined with the general GOP love fest surrounding known modern-day segregationists like Jesse Helms/Strom Thurmond/Trent Lott helps explain why blacks don't vote Republican.
And so it begins- the comparison of an empty suit's readiness for CIC and be ready and running from Day 1 to a VP selection who actually has a resume of making good decisions.
Lefties, it is crucial for the president not to have OJT, especially someone without any experience as an executive. Palin, OTOH, will not be the immediate decision maker, as that job is the CIC. After the staff and cabinet appointments are made, the McCain era begins. During this time, the VP sits in all the cabinet meetings and learns and helps make decisiions. Therefore, if (God forbid) something happens to the CIC, the VP will be up and running and have the staff (McCain's cabinet) in place to continue running the show. The only difference, then, is that Palin would be making the decisions. Likely, they would be the same as McCain.
So, in summary, lefties- this is a non-starter except at the Daily Kos where you are now commanded to return to.
OMG - The irony is so thick you can cut it with a knife! The idiot Dems have picked a neophyte Senator with nothing of substance he can point to and they are calling the ONLY person on either ticket with EXECUTIVE experience - "not experienced enough."
WTF Homer - this is going to be hillarious to watch. What a bunch of dopes.
I'm hoping the trouncing that Obama is going to get is going to take care of him for good and for all as a presidential prospect.
51. Lieberman for Secretary of State -- would make my day complete.
52. I do not support McCain, but you to give him credit. This is great pick. She will do a lot more for McCain than Biden will do for Obama. She will pick up many of those white working class voters, especially woman who supported Hillary. She also has enough traditional republican values that she will will not lose him votes among republicans and , but is just enough different that she reinforces McCain's image as a maverick and attract Hillary democrats and independents.
I just can't see America voting for a flip-flopper, who's never held a job in the private sector, can't remember how many houses he has, and proposing Amnesty to illegal immigrants while in the Senate.
Those dehydrated babies in New Orleans are going to be much better off without the hot water bottles he's going to deliver to them when Katrina II strikes during the GOP convention.
54. I still cannot believe it. If you look back you will see that Palin is the only person I have seen fit to endorse for the VP spot - I considered it a pipe-dream though. To say that McCain has gone further towards redeeming himself with me, with this pick, than I ever thought possible. I have gone from really not being too enthusiastic about anything political on a National level to being "amped." The greatest part of it all is that a true conservative is going to play a large part in absolutely punking a couple of cryptomarxists.
I thought that she was a good choice when I first heard.
When the Obama campaign, before she spoke, trashed her for being small town, I knew she was a GREAT choice. They wouldn't come out with fists swinging unless they were concerned.
He must still think that all small town people understand is Bible, booze, and guns.
Can you hear Obama screaming "unfair?"
56. A truly brilliant pick.
This will really bring out the elitism of the Democrats. Alaska? Small town mayor? NRA member?
They will be totally besides themselves.
I hope she campaigns in Washington. I think she can put it in play. It will help Dino also because it will highlight what an ineffective governor Gregoire is.
This is a great day!!!
57. If the polls didn't have the Messiah back to burnung a pack and a half of Cammel Filters/day this certainly will. OMG this is going to be a hoot.
58. She will pick up many of those white working class voters, especially woman who supported Hillary.
A majority of those white working woman who supported Hillary are pro-choice, Plain is staunchly pro-life. Older white working class women recall the back alley abortions of their parents generation. I doubt they would ever vote for someone who would take away the future generations right to choose or restrict their access to over-the-counter contraceptives. The Dem's won't forget to mention over and over that McCain does not support equal-pay for women.
These issues will be big turn-off's for McCain when these women enter the voting booth. Hillary voters going for McCain is a GOP fantasy at best.
The Second Coming of Margaret Thatcher? Are you ******** me?
Thought I was listening to a reprise of the perky but unfortunate Ms. Teenage Carolina, or whoever it was who got ambushed into a giddy and girlish discussion of U.S. of Americans.
Ms. Palin would be almost persuasive as a school-board maverick, and is probably entirely serviceable as a small-state governor. But C in C?
Stephanie Miller and her Dead-Air America boy toy were in full-frontal prefrontal psychokiller mode this morning, giggling like PMS loonies about slicing and dicing Palin into soundbite-sized pieces. The loon left is lovin' this, and they finally got one right. The closest analogy comes from Summer 1964 issues of "News"week and Time in which thoughtful Americans commented that Barry Goldwater's nutty pick for VP was final proof that Goldwater was too nuts to be president.
Goldwater's nutso pick? It was Stephanie Miller's dad.
Just look at some of Cato's comments, (including hoping for a hurricane disaster in New Orleans).
Liberals heads are exploding over this brilliant pick. Look at any liberal blog and just enjoy the desperation and anger. It's about time we turned the table on these creeps!
61. It will help Dino also because it will highlight what an ineffective governor Gregoire is.
LOL!! That's not saying much when you consider how ineffective the Alaskan legislature is. At least half of them are indicted on bribery charges and 3 have been convicted.
Speaking of which, why is Dino skipping the Republican convention this yeat? He scared of appearing with Ol' Sen. Flip-Flop? He didn't problem going four short years ago. What's changed? Oh yeah, McCain's on the ticket and he's awful.
I look forward to see the GOP cheering on Pres. Bush while New Orleans is drowning in the wake of Katrina II. Wonder if Jinal will be at the Convention rather that helping the people of his state.
62. McCain Incorporated just made things really interesting! As long as Sarah can spell potato and answer questions about her energy connections and climate flip-flopping she'll provide some much needed support to the spin cycles. Nicely done.
63. Praise God for sending us Sarah Palin! What a fantastic woman! I've been lobbying for her for VP selection for months. She represents change -- Christian change (not Marxist/Obama change). She is more qualified for President than those inferior farces Obama and Biden, whose candidacy is an insult and threat to our nation. Sarah will easily prevail against the lowlifes who manipulate the media and the Democrat party. The McCain/Palin ticket will win by a landslide, and take Dino with them! Support them with your volunteering and your donations so we can push the serpents back into the pit and preserve America. May the Lord protect and favor the person and family of Sarah Palin who has the "servant's heart."
After Palin's speech it hit me: She didn't cry.
Unlike Biden, she gave her acceptence speech without crying. I do believe she has bigger chones than Biden.
Putting an inexperienced 1st termer 1 heart beat from the presidency shows McCain's decision making skills have detiorirated significantly.
All the truth about inexperience and then he does this.
BRING BACK REAGAN...PLEASE
66. She is more qualified for President than those inferior farces Obama and Biden, whose candidacy is an insult and threat to our nation.
Wow... what planet DO you live on? Limbaugh was claiming that Obama made a mistake by not picking Clinton, but Palin is the best present McCain could have given the Democrats.
Seriously, McCain has one foot in the grave and is complaining about Obama's lack of experience, and he picks someone that hasn't even finished a term as the governor of Alaska? Damn... that's a double standard if I ever heard one.
Damn straight. It's not just that I'm all about seeing this Obama dork sent packing back to the south side of Chicago where he belongs.
You bet I also want to see the last of this two-bit cardboard Messiah, Obama, as a contender for National office.
I have been a fan of Palin since she entered the national spotlight, and have said that she would be my #1 choice for VP.
There couldn't be a more drastic difference between the two tickets now.
What's the matter Cato et all - are you afraid of a strong woman?
"53. @50: I just can't see America voting for a flip-flopper, who's never held a job in the private sector, can't remember how many houses he has, and proposing Amnesty to illegal immigrants while in the Senate."
Speaking of "flipfloppers," so now you OPPOSE OhDrama? Obviously you do, since he fits your description to a "T."
Is there ANYTHING you fringe-left whackers won't change your minds on? Look, just because the wheels have come off OhDrama's campaign NOW is no reason to change sides. Stick with the empty-suited moron you've been supporting. Don't switch now, Pacto.
Well how about this, demo kid...representing the party of oppressed minorities is an ageist. McCain has "one foot in the grave".
How I love this pick. We've got Cato off his nut hoping for another New Orleans hurricane, ane demo kid showing his bias against older people.
Doesn't take a lot to show these people for who they really are, does it?
Dumbo kid, with each and every post you prove how moronic you can be, and how delusional one MUST be to be a fringe-leftist such as yourself.
The planet the rest of the world lives on, outside your peculiar mother ship, is the planet where your ego-maniacal empty suit served 143 days as a senator with no elected executive experience of ANY kind.
The only double standard here is one concerning your lack of an ability to grasp reality... proven with each and every one of your posts.
Palin is a great choice!
While many will focus on her gender and age, what impresses me most about her is she took on the Alaska Stevens-Murkowski-Young political machine run by an old boy network of members of her on own party and beat them. That took courage and a commitment to principle that is rare in politics.
Both McCain and Palin are proven reformers. The Republican Party ticket is the only one that has both legislative and executive experience--McCain in the military and Palin as a Governor and Mayor.
Palin is also the first major party nominee we have had from the Pacific Northwest since 1940 (trivia: Charles McNary of Oregon was Wendell Wilkie's running mate).She could well put Washington and Oregon in play for the Republican ticket.
I went over to DailyKos to see what they are saying to slam her. Experience was the first point. Actually she has more executive experience than both Biden and Obama. Absurdly, they tried to tie her to the Alaska corruption scandals involving Ted Stevens and Don Young. She actually is the bitter enemy of the Alaska machine.
Then they did the usual smear of Gov. Palin's conservative credentials. They attacked her for being pro-life and a creationist. Actually, a great deal of the country believes in creationism and many of the rest don't think it's relevant. All this will be is something for the Left to sneer at and turn off the 90% who aren't as enlightened as they, the vanguard of the proletariat, think they are. On abortion, people who base their votes on pro-choice positions will not be voting for the GOP ticket anyway. More likely she will energize social conservatives who are reluctant to support McCain.
She is the epitome of the "Sam's Club Republican" books and columns have been written about.
After the British Labour Party lost the 1979 election, it had to suffer three more defeats before finally attaining power again in 1997. Before returning to power, the Party had to reinvent itself by moving to the center and calling itself New Labour. It looks like the GOP will not be out for as long.
The Republicans with McCain and Palin nationally and Rossi locally are clearly the party of reform. The Democrats have paved the way for GOP victory by offering nothing new and moving farther to the left.
I went over the KOS for a look. What a mistake.
These dems are so sick, they claimed that Sarah last child had downs because of her age.
Yep, keep it up dem's.
73. This should read "The planet the rest of the world lives on, outside your peculiar mother ship, is the planet where your ego-maniacal empty suit served 143 days as a senator with no elected executive experience of ANY kind... BEFORE HE DECIDED TO BECOME ANOINTED AS PRESIDENT."
74. Bill, Hinton - The last coupla' dozen posts just back up my assertion that the hardcore left isn't just misguided they are evil. I harken back to their stated hope that more people would lose their lives to gun violence so that it would feed into their desire to dissarm the entire country. This NOLA stuff is an accurate portrait of what these left wing activists are all about.
76. Just so, JDH.
I think she actually is a great woman, but you have to ask yourself, if this had been a man, would McCain have picked an unheard of Governor with not even a full terms experience?
This also completely takes away the "experience" arguement that the McCain campaign has been using for several months. The Dems don't need to even bring it up, but how is McCain going to use Obama's lack of experience now that he just picked someone that has been "Governor for two minutes"... as conservative Ramesh Pannuru puts it.
78. Sorry, YLB... Palin at her worst is better than Obama at his best... because if you're concerned about any tax increase SHE may have made (which, of course, you're not) then you should be suicidakl over OhDrama's tax increase program.
79. What's the matter Cato et all - are you afraid of a strong woman?
Nope, are you? You guys were so eager to have another Clinton Presidency, the GOP-machine had the Anti-Clinton books to the press and ready to crank them out. Then something happened, Hillary lost.
Hillary is a strong woman, a strong woman with lots of money from people who are not exactly squeaky clean (the Norman Hsu guy comes to mind). I'm more than happy to elect a woman to the highest office in the land (heck we have two women Senators and a woman Governor, just as long as that woman is not Hillary.
JDH, why are you so afraid of supporting the strong women who represent this state? I have no doubt you would pick the boring old white guy over a woman in a second if he had the the letter (R) after his name on the ballot.
I'll take a shot at it: the "strong women who represent this state" aren't strong and they lie. A lot.
We don't like to support liars, and that you do is, well, problematic.
That (GLASS CEILING)Hillary was standing on, just blew up.
Bill & JDH. Don't you love it. She doesn't have enough time in office...Ahhhh can you say Obama!
Palin could put WA in play for McCain.
RCP average for WA is Obama 50, McCain 40. McCain needs a 5-point swing, approximately, to be competitive.
She's from the West, she's a woman, she likes guns, she is conservative ... more disaffected Clinton supporters and conservatives will come to McCain. Will it be enough? We'll see ...
She won't hurt McCain among ANY voter group (except for maybe state troopers that make death threats).
83. Great selection by McCain. He will now be getting my vote.
From what I've read about this woman and heard her speak, she sounds like a firecracker. I'd love to send this ticket to the Whitehouse and watch her open a can of whoopa_ _ on DC! You go, girl!
I'm sure Obama will accuse her of clinging to her guns and religion, but that's just too darn bad, Mr. Arugula!
I feel really great right now. I'm laughing at:
and other assorted lefty loons!
You make me LOL!!!!!
What makes them weak, the fact they have the (D) next to their name instead of an (R). Give me a break, your argument is as shallow as your party's platform.
Maybe you should go back and examine the abundance of sexist comments in the Cantwell vs McGavick threads. Gotta love the two-faced hypocrisy of people on here, you guys crack me up.
78 - Uh. Doesn't Obama support a windfall profits tax and didn't the Republicans in U.S. Senate just finish stopping one?
Sarah actually got one passed with the support of a seemingly Republican dominated legislature.
Smacks of "socialism" to me.
The promotion of infantacide by one candidate must now be dealt with in even the most screwed up parishes that claim to be Roman Catholic.
This race is also going to give Rome a chance to clean house. The clear deliniation between those who adhere to Church doctrine and the likes of Pelosi, Biden et all will demand that this issue be addressed, finally. This is good.
Yes, in February, you said: "Looks like we have a Democrat in the White House in 2009. Who are the early GOP favorites for 2012? I want to start early, since I am sitting out the 2008 election."
This is why it is so important for a conservative. A non-conservative pick might've made conservatives bolt, and would not have brought in any conservatives who were sitting out.
Very happy with the pick.
Let's compare Obama and Palin's fitness to be president: Palin apparently has a reputation as reformer and cleaned house up there in the Alaska state chambers.
Obama voted "present."
@85 crusader -
Laugh at this then:
The latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking finds Barack Obama moving to an eight percentage point lead over John McCain, 49% to 41%.
Of course, only time will tell (give it another two weeks or so), but I have a feeling that McCain may have just selected a "Harriet Miers" as his VP.
And yet you support McCain who went out of to get the support of the guy who believes Catholicism is a fake religion and it's members are the "whore of Babylon". Amazing.
Looks like you believe in freedom, but no the freedom of one to choose to disagree with the doctrine of a church that won't allow women to be priests or use contraception? Shouldn't Catholics be free to make their own scriptural interpretations? I thought it was God who did the judging, not individuals such as yourself.
Uhhhhh, no. The poll you site shows roughly a 3 point bump for Obama because of the convention, AND HAS NOTHING IN IT CONCERNING THE PALIN SELECTION.
C'mon, people... if you're gonna cite a poll, at least know what it covers, first.
No no Obama was a "community organizer"!!!!
95. Somewhere, a village is missing their "community organizer."
"uhhhh" yourself. I never said it had anything to do with the Palin decision. In fact that poll doesn't even account for Obama's acceptance speach last night (which I really didn't like all the much, but apparently is going over fairly well). I would expect the gap to grow a bit more tomorrow, but as I said, the next two weeks are what matter.
97. Wow, 3 point bump. Dukakis had much bigger and look what happened to him. Hussein is fucked.
Pudge, Mark Levin says it better than I could:
(click my name for url link with full comment)
Few have been more critical of Sen. McCain than I, both here and on my radio show. And I have long said on my radio show that his selection of a running-mate will be key in determining my enthusiasm for his candidacy. If McCain has, in fact, chosen Gov. Palin, then count me in with both feet. It would be a terrific choice.
Palin is by all accounts a principled conservative and government reformer who can contribute mightily to the decision-making that occurs in the White House. She has more executive experience in her two years as governor than Obama, Biden, and McCain combined. She is a mother of five in what appears to be a loving and functioning family. And she is someone Republicans, conservatives, and others can rally behind in the future.
She was also mayor of Alaska's 4th largest and fastest growing city, which is further executive experience.
99. @92, I don't discuss matters of religion with adults who ask questions that one would expect of children, and particularly stupid children at that.
100. Silly me. Your mention of a Harriet Myers choice, of course, shows your claim that "I never said it had anything to do with the Palin decision," to be, well, false.
101. You can tell by the Lefty comment furor. They are worried sick. And rightly so.
102. She was also mayor of Alaska's 4th largest and fastest growing city.
Of less than 6000 people? C'mon you guys gotta do better than that.
It's okay, there are others, surely, who can be just as bold and vote "present".
104. Why, YLB? Your guy hasn't run a 6th grade class, and that doesn't bother you.
105. Now you've got me laughing. I can't blame y'all for being optimistic, but you had better hope this Palin lady can walk on water during the debates. The double standard on experience around here is pretty funny though. Palin's own website on her foriegn policy positions: "No issue stance yet recorded by OnTheIssues.org"
Cato @ 32.
Re: Hillary Vote. Wishful thinking on your part. Keep wishing, you will need a lot of the Audacity of Hope.
OUR "double standard?"
YOU support and empty-suited clown with ZERO experience, and you're doing it effortlessly... even forced to lie about it.
And yet, you talk about OUR "double-standard?"
You're making us blow chunks, here.
104 - If you're talking VP, then you're completely wrong. I'd saying chairing Foreign Affairs and Judicial and sheparding tons of legislation through the U.S. Senate is excellent preparation for the White House.
If you're talking Obama, you're wrong there too. He's represented constituencies larger than the population of Alaska.
Sarah Palin: Too young. Inexperienced. Lack of credentials. She's unqualified as republican veep, but fully qualified as the democrat presidential candidate.
110. Of less than 6000 people? C'mon you guys gotta do better than that.
Wasilla probably has over 10,000 people. It is growing fast. It has added over 4,000 people this decade alone.
Wow... you know, this lovefest really amuses the crap out of me! Seems like Republicans are quick to denounce the drinking of the Kool-Aid when it comes to Democrats, but are quite willing to ask for a second glass when it comes to Republicans.
@69: Well how about this, demo kid...representing the party of oppressed minorities is an ageist. McCain has "one foot in the grave".
Pfft. So much for "practicality" and "reason" in the Republican party. (Like it ever really existed...) Idiots on the right can crow about Democrats making a big deal over the historic nature of Obama's run, but raise even one question about McCain's age and you get slammed. Double-standard, eh?
How I love this pick. We've got Cato off his nut hoping for another New Orleans hurricane, ane demo kid showing his bias against older people.
Bias against older people? Damn... you can't take any serious analysis, can you?
Doesn't take a lot to show these people for who they really are, does it?
It doesn't take much to show that Republicans are quite obviously slimeballs.
@70: Dumbo kid, with each and every post you prove how moronic you can be, and how delusional one MUST be to be a fringe-leftist such as yourself.
If you think that I'm a "fringe leftist", you don't get out much.
The planet the rest of the world lives on, outside your peculiar mother ship, is the planet where your ego-maniacal empty suit served 143 days as a senator with no elected executive experience of ANY kind.
And McCain has how much "elected executive experience"? I'll give you a hint... it's exactly the same as Obama's, moron.
And placing a not-quite-one-term governor of Alaska in the second seat doesn't quite sound like that brings executive experience to the ticket.
The only double standard here is one concerning your lack of an ability to grasp reality... proven with each and every one of your posts.
You're the one wearing the tinfoil hat, fella.
112. and = an
113. Demo kid - remember you're at the kid's table. The adults are talking. Now shaddup.
#2 vs #1 is a pretty good rebuttal to the experience issue.
And infinitely more executive experience (as in 0 versus any executive time) than Obama isn't bad either.
The good government actions taken by Palin will stand up very well to Obama's chicago sleaze. I wonder if Biden ever voted yea on a bill that included the famous "Bridge to nowhere" that Palin killed???
The debates between Palin and Biden will be very fun. If she can defuse and expose the torrent of lies coming out of Biden's mouth without losing her cool she will be a positive. If she let's Biden get away with that, then she will be a negative.
After his nominating speech, Obama should have gained 12-15%.
He gained 8%. Not much of a bump for the Second Coming. If I were him, I'd be worried.
Too bad "Hope and Change" is becoming stale and tired. He has nothing else to run on.
Let's compare Obama and Palin's fitness to be president:
Palin - Leads a state that is 47th in population size.
Obama - Represents a state that's 5th is population size.
Palin - Believes Creationism should be taught in public schools.
Obama - Believes that Math and Science should be taught in public schools
Palin - Leads a state with a legislature dominated by corruption.
Obama - Represents a state with a legislature that has a history of being dominated by corruption.
Palin - Part of a party that has relativity few women in leadership positions.
Obama - Part of a party that has numerous women in leadership positions.
Well Hinton, all I can say is that your comments speak for themselves. At the very least, I show a respect for McCain and Palin, and think they are probably good decent folks. I just disagree with them on a lot of policies.
Refering to Obama as an "empty-suited clown" is completely disrepectful, and only shows that you don't understand his positions, so just resort to name-calling as a means of distraction. Pretty fifth-grade in my opinion, but I see a lot of it over at H.A. too...
And Jeff, personally, as someone that backs Obama, I think McCain's VP selection is a gift to the Democrats, so am not really worried. A lot can happen between now and November, but the eletoral map looks pretty darn good for Obama in my opinion.
Best damn news I've heard in a long time. I was honestly surprised--I didn't think she would take it if offered, but I was wrong--happily wrong.
I admire her greatly, and I have friends from Alaska who just love her.
Today is a great day to be a Republican Woman.
Dumbo, PLEASE take a class in reading comprehension... and soon. DON'T put words in that I did not say.
Here... maybe if I can type slower, you might actually get it.
Palin has elected executive experience. OhDrama has none. You with me so far? Good.... good.
Now, in the experience aspect alone, that makes her a superior candidate to OhDrama... and while McCain's elected executive experience is the same as OhDrama's, McCain's OTHER experience set is VASTLY superior in EVERY way.
Still with me? Good.... good.
So, the idea that you leftist hypocrites would attack HER lack of experience, which is, like McCain's, superior to OhDrama's experience in EVERY way, is the entire point of the exercise.
There... get it now, moron?
Palin has been a reformer. Cato, help us out:
what were Obama's accomplishments thus far, as an elected official?
Let's see city councilman and mayor of a town smaller than 6000 people and 18 months into a governorship qualifies one to be a heartbeat away from a 72 year old cancer survivor.
I will admit she does have talent. She cold-bloodedly and opportunistically threw under the bus Republicans who got a bit too embarrassing even for Alaska.
She also reaped a windfall for Alaskan oil check recipients - that's popularity for you.
She fits the Rovian profile very well.
"Alaska! It's the new Texas!"
I am dancing in Seattle! I have been punding this drum for months!
I learned so much more about what Sarah brings to the table to pull the teeth of B-Ho..
Hubby is a member of the steelworkers union: UNIONS, check!
Daddy is a teacher: disaffected NEA members, check!
Hockey Mome: SOCCER MOMS, check!
Lifelong hunter: SECOND AMENDMENT DEFENDERS, check!
Working mom of an infant: FEMINISTS, check!
NOTE TO JOE BIDEN: Dude, we have TWO WORDS of advice for you: Rick Lazio!
Ok, now I'll go read all the comments!
123. YLB, I think Obama has some talent---to look nice while reading a telepromtper. HE'S PERFECT FOR THE JOB OF NEWS ANCHOR. Someone call CBS.
124. Wow..this topic has generated more responses than I've seen herein in a while. Hot Lady! Hot Topic! :)
I can understand why McCain picked Palin. I wonder, however, how it makes Pawlenty (sp?) feel? Here is a guy that has worked his heart out for McCain and is from a key swing state that could be more easily moved into McCain's column with a safe choice. At least Palin did say "Hockey Mom," which should resonate some in MN. To the rest of the country's "Soccer Mom's," however, it will have less of an impact.
I don't know enough about Palin at this time to judge whether she will actually be a good VP or not. Right now, she will appear to be more a Dan Quayle type VP than a Dick Cheney, which in one respect, the way Cheney has trampled the constitution and law, may be a blessing.
McCain's big problem, however, will be having enough time for the country to get to know her. With the potential of split news coverage this coming week (between convention and Gustov), and with less than 70 days until the elections, McCain's team has a lot of road work to do. Palin's family better be prepared to miss her from now until November. She won't be needed to campaign in Alaska.
Wasilla, Alaska has over 10,000 people. It had over 6,000 when she was mayor. This decade alone it has grown by over 4,000 people.
4th largest city in Alaska, and the fastest growing.
127. Palin has elected executive experience. OhDrama has none.
I don't know who "OhDrama" is but Obama has plenty of legislative experience and quite impressive executive experience. Didn't he just achieve the impossible by out-working the Clinton machine?
Didn't they teach you in civics class that the legislative branches of our government is co-equal with executive?
Why do you hate America so much Hinton?
I know this is a great pick, it is driving the liberals crazy. Look at the Seattle Times blog
Obama Bin Biden = corruption, socialism. From Chicago ACORN corruption to Senator MBNA, the Democrat ticket is nothing more than 20th century corrutption and dumb, failing ideas.
tc, I think Pawlenty feels 20 times better than Hillary Clinton.
SHE WASN'T EVEN VETTED!
131. I haven't seen the left in full freak-out mode like this since the 2004 elections. Nice going, McCain!
Splinter @ 117
Well I am definitely voting for Obama, but I do see that the selection of Palin will probably give a big boost to McCain. It will help McCain a lot with women and a lot with people in the center. There is lots of criticisms of Palin's lack of experience, but somehow I don't think those will resonate so effectively, and they may backfire. It certainly doesn't hurt McCain to take a risk, since he was headed towards a small loss to Obama in the absence of it.
133. WOW--I just tried to sign up as a McCain/Palin volunteer, and the McCain website was so busy I couldn't get through!
134. #130 Hey...ease up there! Ha, I'm sure there are 'real job' cabinet positions that would be available for Romney, Pawlenty, etc., et al if they wanted them...doncha think
Perhaps he will get a few of the most bitter PUMAs out there, but from what I've seen of Palin so far, she's not by any means a feminist, and I think most of those women that had been supporting Hillary in the first place, will see this as what it is: Pandering for the female vote. It may very well get him a few points among that group, but I personally don't think most left-leaning pro-choice women are going to be swayed.
What's strange to me is why he didn't pick any of the other much more qualified female Republicans. Is it really just the pro-life stance and shoring up the base?
136. Wasilla, Alaska has over 10,000 people.
Wow! Great executive credentials for being a heartbeat away from leading 300 million people.
Wonder what the religious right will think of the fact that Palin smoked Pot
OBTW, she also recently praised Obama's energy plan.
138. Burrock who? What a political slam dunk for the McCain-Palin ticket!
139. #137 Probably most of them did too! :)
140. YLB - why do you hate America so much by supporting a candidate who is buddies with terrorists(Ayres) and American-hating racists(Reverend Wrong)? Why are you a traitor to this nation?
141. Bruce @42 I'll bet she knows there are 50 states, unlike Obama who has visited 57 states.
142. I think Obama thinks America is like Heinz ketchup - in 57 varieties.
I assume you meant that Hillary wasn't vetted and not that Palin wasn't vetted.
It was reported that in their early June meeting that Hillary asked about the VP spot and made it clear that she didn't want to be put through a charade of vetting. Either Obama needed to be serious about considering her, or to forget it. Obama's response was that at that time it didn't appear that they would make the best team long term, which is totally understandable coming off a bitter primary and having the Bill factor to also consider in the equation. My guess he probably promised her the lead again on healthcare reform, instead, which is her pride and joy.
144. I guess Christine Todd Whitman didn't have the right experience for the McCain ticket. Old man and a hot woman, perfect Fox News anchor ticket.
140 - nothing in Obama's public record shows any advocacy of radical ideas. Just an ambitious guy with his heart always in the right place. He could have wrote his own ticket after Harvard.
The University of Illinois just opened those Annenburg Challenge records and sure enough there's "no there there" about Ayers.
And I don't appreciate you implying that I hate this country. I love it enough not to want four more years of the same failed policies and ugly divisive politics courtesy of Mr. Rove, thank you.
146. Judging from the reaction of liberals here and elsewhere I expect the Bumbershoot, that leftist festival annually held at Seattle Center, might not be a fun place to be this Labor Day weekend.
The Maverick and The Lady!
And to think I was mildly bummed at the end of the barrypalooza!
It speaks volumes about the 'engaged' liberals of Seattle when they admit publicly (Seattle Time Blog), like Mister B from Bothell: "OK, for one, I didn't even know Alaska's governor was a woman." Can we say 'bahhhhh', little sheep?
Here's a little secret the libs and lefty's don't want to acknowledge: my conservatives have been less than enthused. B-Ho and the bitter bride capitalized on that HOPE.
Kiddies, we are enthused and engaged now!
148. Can we say 'bahhhhh', little sheep?
Seems to me that you're the sheep Ragnar...happy to stand idly by and watch as the GOP spent all the surplus and start a was under false pretenses. You can keep following your precious party right out of office.
Gee, Pacto... if that empty suit is such a slam dunk, then why are you here making yourself out to be such an idiot? If we're all wrong, then why not let us have our delusion? After all, you and YOUR ilk have nothing to worry about... right?
It seems to me that you and the rest of your fringers are running scarfed... and you're protesting FAR too much.
Hmmm. Not only has Sarah raised taxes in order to "redistribute" the proceeds to Alaskans.
She has praised a certain presidential candidate for his energy policy. This was scrubbed from the Governor's website:
"I am pleased to see Senator Obama acknowledge the huge potential Alaska's natural gas reserves represent in terms of clean energy and sound jobs," Governor Palin said. "The steps taken by the Alaska State Legislature this past week demonstrate that we are ready, willing and able to supply the energy our nation needs."
and this is interesting..
The Governor did question the means to pay for Obama's proposed rebate -- a windfall profits tax on oil companies.
but wait a minute, according the seatimes story I cited above:
Alaska collected an estimated $6 billion from the new tax during the fiscal year that ended June 30, according to the Alaska Oil and Gas Association. That helped push the state's total oil revenue -- from new and existing taxes, as well as royalties -- to more than $10 billion, double the amount received last year.
Sounds like a "windfall" to me and..
The industry, however, warns new taxes are already discouraging future exploration and development in newer, more expensive projects needed to boost waning production in Alaska's oil patches.
"Clearly, from the investor standpoint, Alaska has become a less attractive place to invest exploration and production dollars," said Marilyn Crockett, executive director of the Alaska Oil and Gas Association.
Wow. Sarah, what happened to free markets?
Don't wet the keyboard with your tears obfusCATOr. Well, 2nd thought... go ahead.
I bet Sarah doesn't agonize over the price of arugula!
I wish he [bHO] was just an empty suit -- he's a dangerous, extremist radical who will destroy this country if he's given the chance. No MARXIST in our White House.
WOW, YLB! That's ALMOST as interesting as OhDrama's running mate telling us there's no way OhDrama is ready to be president!
You and your ilk are going to have to cut and paste FAR better talking points than these.
God, politically how it must suck to be you.
Can a political junkie have more fun than reading the comments from leftists here and elsewhere?
Palin is a "beauty queen", who should "stay home with her down's syndrome child", and she's just a "PTA mom" who was mayor of a "Podunk small town".
Can you say big city snotty liberal bias? Yes, liberals, you can!
And gosh, she isn't even an ivy-league slimy lawyer.
154. you're protesting FAR too much
Haha, I'm just keeping up with the flow. The lone voice of reason in a crowd of mindless GOP sheep. =)
155. Can you say big city snotty liberal bias?
Haha, this coming from a party who's catch phrase during the Primary's was "How can we beat the bitch?"
WOW 155 post.
Yep them libs/dems are very worried. LOL
obfusCATOr, get your OWN line, Dolly
"Just an ambitious guy with his heart always in the right place. He could have wrote his own ticket after Harvard."
"I don't know who "OhDrama" is but Obama has plenty of legislative experience and quite impressive executive experience. Didn't he just achieve the impossible by out-working the Clinton machine?
Didn't they teach you in civics class that the legislative branches of our government is co-equal with executive?"
O_O Are you serious? Are you cotton-picking SERIOUS?
WHAT "impressive executive experience" does Obama have? State it. I dare you.
And if your excuse is that the "legislature is co-equal with the executive" and Q.E.D. Obama has executive experience equal to his legislative experience (which is 143 days), then think again. The branches are not "co-equal", they are counter-balancing. Checks and balances. Each branch has its own specific bunch of functions. Being a legislator--showing up to vote (or not vote?), offer the occasional prepared speech, and listening to lobbyists does not qualify as executive experience.
Try again, YLB. Try again.
Not only is Sarah "tax happy", (she DOUBLED the taxes on the oil industry) she hates polar bears.
Which of course stand in the way of more oil production and taxation.
But I can't emphasize that first part enough.
She DOUBLED taxes on the oil industry leaving a bad taste in their mouth about more production in order to hand out checks to Alaskans.
How is that going to play with people going broke commuting long distances to their jobs?
I would like all thinking readers to ponder all those "inexperienced" whines ... then remember the heralding of their own little darcy.
The Maverick and The Lady!
161. Being a legislator--showing up to vote (or not vote?), offer the occasional prepared speech, and listening to lobbyists does not qualify as executive experience
You flunked civics class. Legislators lead on the crafting of legislation, hold hearings, make decisions on what is included and not included, run committees, etc - excellent preparation for executive office.
The "executive experience" of GWB and Dick Cheney hasn't counted for much if you look at their approval ratings.
I just had to make a quick run into the heart of Seattle to drop off some plan sets - yes folks Capital Hill. I stopped and had lunch while there and they are out of their friggin' mind. The whole deli was abuzz over the pick of Palin and they are not in a good mood over it.
I have been a Palin supporter since day one, check old posts and you will see that my support for her has been there since day one. I didn't think she stood a chance though. To say that I am energized about this presidential election for the first time is an understatement.
As far as her debating either Biden or b-deep, b-deep b-dObama -> bring it on. she woul;d have him for lunch without ever having to shift out of first gear. Palin against the human platitude and cliche' regurgitator who can't finish a sentence that isn't written down for him???? Puhleeze. She would own him.
LOL, Looks like the GOP is tripping over themselves to claim an early victory. This happens when something big is announced.
Then reality sets in, the economy is still in the tank, there are two wars going on, the GOP led Govt has a three trillion dollar budget (biggest in history), the GOP led Govt. created the largest budget deficit in history, not to mention the GOP still has a flip-flop candidate at the top of the ticket. Just because Ol' Sen. Flip Flop picked a VP candidate doesn't mean America's problems have magically disappeared.
Plus something tells me we haven't heard the last of the Ron Paul folks.
I can see it now:
"GOP cheers on Bush while New Orleans drowns"
"Gov. Jindall gives convention speech as Hurricane Gustav batters Louisiana."
I also seem the recall that another President had a mere two years in the House and a lifetime as a corporate lawyer.
He didn't fare too badly as a President and Commander-in-Chief, did he?
I also seem to recall that another President had a mere two years in the House coupled with a career as a corporate lawyer.
He didn't fare too badly as a President and Commander-in-Chief, did he?
I had to laugh at YLB's link to a new AP story pointing out supposed Palin negatives.
You can bet the mainstream media is wetting its pants trying to discredit Palin. This is so much fun.
167. Legislators lead on the crafting of legislation, hold hearings, make decisions on what is included and not included
Yes and so does every single person who ever sat on any committees. Since I conceived, proposed implemented and chaired a successful fundraiser, I guess that make me just as qualified as any EXECUTIVE... Move over Mr Gates.
Legislators (yes even McCain) TALK, Executives DO, they DO lead, they DO decide, they DO act, the DO bear the responsibility of their decisions.
162 - Are you delusional? Presidential candidates don't debate with Veep candidates of the opposite party.
Biden has to appear not to "beat up on the girl" which is easier said than done but still doable.
Sarah will have not too much of a problem varying her monotone delivery while delivering ugly Rovian talking points that are only tangentially related to the questions being asked.
As far as preparation for being one heartbeat away from the highest office in the land?
There's no comparison. It's Biden in a walk.
169. I feel "sCATOphiliac" is more apropos than "obfusCATOr," given his brain's demented nature. There is no benefit in reading or responding to his posts. Flush him.
Guys, not to worry.. Look at the dems going nuts over her.
This is a gas.
LOL 167 posts and counting
We don't need to defend her, because they know Obama is so hollow.
171. I had to laugh at YLB's link to a new AP story pointing out supposed Palin negatives.
She raised taxes, Bill. The oil industry did not appreciate that one bit.
How do you excuse her?
What kind of a "conservative" does that?
I've also heard she cut spending. It makes even less sense!!!
Haha, I thought the GOP supported the 1st Amendment. Did I strike a nerve there Pirate?
Going to love seeing Palin try to explain this one away.
173. Yes and so does every single person who ever sat on any committees.
Like John McCain.. Well game over or are you really hoping he kicks the bucket so Sarah with her "executive experience" of running a town with around 6000 people and 18 months of the Governorship of a State with a quarter of a million people can slide right in.
174. Tina Fey will make a great Sarah Palin on Saturday Night Live. They could be twins.
@170: We don't need to defend her, because they know Obama is so hollow.
And... you can't. She's a desperate Hail Mary pass. The gushing from the right-wing is almost embarrassing, especially after y'all were excoriating Democrats for gushing over Obama and posting up as many little details about Biden as possible. Double standard, and one that many people on here are too stupid to realize.
I will admit, though... it's a gutsy move. Whether it's stupid or it pays off is very dependent on the next few weeks.
Palin's record as governor of Alaska may not be well reported in most of the country, but we do hear about her here in the PNW from time to time.
From what I have read of, heard of and seen of Ms. Palin, I have to say I am impressed.
Great choice for McCain and fantastic timing for the announcement with a lot of women feeling more than little bit singed by the treatment Hillary in the last few weeks by the Obamacrats.
177. She's a desperate Hail Mary pass
The Chucky don't-get-in-my-way-to-the-camera Schumer talking point!
You repeat quite well there demo. Shall we go back to discussing sheep?
178. The gushing from the right-wing is almost embarrassing,
As embarassing as the insults from your lefty pals?
179. This is theologically sublime! Sarah appears in His Holy light holding a cross and a sword and all the damned and demonic souls shriek in horror at their forthcoming doom. I love it!
Hells bells... she beats Biden just in the hair wars!
Come on Joe...please can we have a 'guess the number of plugs' fundraiser?
181. If McCain doesn't make it through his first term due to illness or death, Palin will have MORE foreign policy experience then Bill Clinton did on day one of his administration.
The veep spot is sometimes about developing the next leader while having them work to their strengths. Palin's judgement and conservative principles will carry her if she is thrust into the big chair. She'll also have a lot of help.
Bad, bad pick. The conservative movement, whether it be McCain, pundits, or the citizenry at large, have banked on this election being a referendum on whether Obama has the experience to be president. Every talking point has been to answer that question with a resounding "NO." The right has done well in this regard, largely pointing to Obama's lack of experience in explaining why the race is so tight when the country is in a middle of a conservative revolt.
So what does McCain do? He picks a 44 year old female, first term governor of Alaska, who in 2006 was the mayor of Wasilla with a population of . . . . 5,470. The question will be asked, "John McCain at 72, and having a number of health issues over the years, you have to admit that there is a possibility you die in office so your VP pick has to be someone who is ready to be president? Do you think Sarah Palin
can do so?" And he in turn has to say "Yes." Then the question is, "What exactly makes her even half as qualified as Barrack Obama?"
183. I thought it was kind of strange that this site had kind of an orange glow on my monitor till I realized it was liberal hair on fire! This is the best fun I've watched in just ages! Shall we start on pool on whether this post gets to over 200 comments, many of them unhinged?
184. This pick and timing of it were tactically brilliant. In one fell swoop McCain put the exclamation mark on the end of the barrypalooza. AND what are all the jabbertalkies blabbering about? It ain't bHo!
Is Sarah Palin's doubling of taxes on the oil/gas industry in Alaska in order to hand out checks to Alaskans to fill their 3 ton pickups and Piper Cubs "socialism" or "compassionate conservatism"?
In as much as I don't know the facts about that particualr tax and I certqainly will NOT accept your skewed view as fact, I simply don't have an opinion.
I did hear a caller on a talk show this morning discussing the COST of gas up there... they were recently paying $4.76/gallon.
I'd say Sarah Palin is qualified to be Prez if McCain kicks the bucket...
if you hold up Dubya as a model.
Just do what Papa Karl and whoever the next Duck! Cheney tells you.
@168 no I am not delusional.
The champion of infanticide will try to nuance his way around this issue and who better to refute him. She is no bullshit on this issue and has "street cred" like no one else anywhere near either side of the campaign.
I have, up to this point, never had a good word to say about Mccain the politician, never. I will not take back one thing I have said about him in that regard, but I will say that I admire his choice in a running mate and I admire his service in the military.
As far as not ever having a good word for McCain the politician goes he has never impressed me as being anything special and he has certainly screwed people who have supported conservative causes in the past. I am particularly pissed off regarding the waterboarding ban he championed or I would praise his support for the war on terrorism.
189. LMAO! Now were back to Rove! Brilliant retort!
190. Oh..those snooty elitist libs....so she's from a small town.... my guess is that's what those big city smart alecs said about Lincoln....he's from some little podunk town in Illinois! I was around when they made fun of Truman...he was a so-called hick from the sticks. The laugh was on them!!
I checked. She doesn't have any terrorist friends. Her church doesn't hate the United States. She doesn't consider her babies to be "punishments".
So, the Left isn't going to like her, but the rest of the country is going to fall in love.
192. You know, I can't wait for the day when they invent the computer that allows you to reach through and bitchslap somebody at the other end.
193. I like how OhDrama is already disavowing much of the garbage his own campaign has been spewing about Palin. You've gotta wonder what he's been hearing.
194. Question: is YLB a panicked, fringe-left troll because he's a moron, or is he a moron because he's a panicked, fringe-left troll?
195. Well, Cato, I defer to your vastly superior sheep experience. Since you've been a member of that particular flock for years, now, I bow to your expertise.
196. Entertaining campaign quibbling aside, I'm glad to see a figure from the far reaches of the Northwest in the run and bringing what comes from that perspective out into the fray. Even if in total disagreement with her political, philosophical, and spiritual views on just about everything, there is a wealth of good things coming to the table through her presence alone. Beyond being a woman in the co-pilot seat, she's a Governor from a Libertarian leaning strong Republican state that distributes corporate resource sale taxes back to its residents as an annual dividend! Take that Chavez! Even I think this is a pretty cool. You all have a fantastic weekend out there!
" ... (M)ade fun of Truman...he was a so-called hick from the sticks. The laugh was on them!!"
No, they said he was a hand-picked product of the criminal Pendergast machine of Kansas City. And they were right. Laugh's on you, particularly since the machine-thug connection is eerily similar to Obama's in Chicago.
For more on the corrupt-crony incompetence of Truman and his administration, read Halberstam's book about Korea.
198. Next, PBJ (Sorry, YLB) will be telling us Palin hates puppies. Good God but so many leftists are a waste of space.
199. Damn... I was hoping to be #200!
200. Anyone hear anything from Hillary's PUMAs on the choice of Palin for VP?
201. So, the Left isn't going to like her, but the rest of the country is going to fall in love.
Or laugh like the rest of the State of Alaska is doing. This is the same lady who was backing the Obama energy plan just over a month ago. She suddenly going to have a change of heart? =P
What's up with McCain and ex-beauty queens? I wonder if Palin agrees with her Church in their belief that divorce is a sin?
202. Smoley, there is a hillary forum web site and those people are all for McCain/Palin. It's quite remarkable. I'd link it to you, but they're asking for login information now.
Executive experience comparison:
Palin- Mayor, State Governor
Obama- Signature gatherer/Community organizer
Not even close...
Cato - she might believe it's a sin, but so what? She also probably beleives that we are all sinners and that's why God sent his only Son Jesus to earth to die for those sins. Yours, mine, everyones. That's great news isn't it. You should thank God tonight. :-)
Are you saying she shouldn't be on the ticket because of this? She should not hang with sinners? Nice try at humor as I think that's what it was.....
Too bad Rossi doesn't have the same attitude about corruption withing the good old boy network as Palin. If he did, he could win in a landslide of historic proportions.
Stephan isn't interested in exposing the corruption, either. He'd rather have Gregoire as governor than to risk some of his republican buddies being exposed right along with her; including McKenna.
- Mayor of city the size of Duvall (Pop. 5k, 6 yrs), State Governor (2 yrs)
- State Legislator (Pop. 650k+, 7 years), Senator (3 yrs)
- Governor (Pop. 23.9 mil, 4 yrs) of state where Governorship is a figurehead position. Shared name with former Gov/Pres.
Pretty good experience all around. =P
Wow. I wonder what the all-time record is for the number of posts on a single topic at Sound Politics? 204 posts and counting and so many from leftists who are having a collective cow over the pick of Sarah Palin. I hear Palin shoots moose. I think she may have bagged a much bigger catch. The Democrat Party.
I can't wait for tonights episode of Hannity and Colmes. Colmes, like a true leftist is an expert at interrupting disagreeing guests. "Yeah well what about..." is his favorite tactic. Will we see him spontaneously combust on screen tonight?
Let's talk about the "experience thing" shall we? Do we want the president to learn on the job, as is the case with the "no executive experience, no foreign policy experience" Obama? Or would we prefer to have the experienced one as president (as in McCain).
In hospitals, the juniors don't do the surgery, they watch how the experienced surgeonsa operate and learn. Obama/Biuden would reverse that to have the inexperienced internist start off with brain surgery.
Bill, the reaction by the Dems to this choice illustrates how effective it is. Our reaction to Joe Biden was to yawn. This pick has stung them very hard. Hillary Clinton got 18 million votes and Obama didn't even consider her.
People (normal people, not Leftists) are going to love Sarah Palin.
210. This pick has stung them very hard.
You're seeing laughter and mistaking it for pain, because picking Palin is an absolutely asinine decision from a campaign on the brink of disaster.
She makes Obama look like a wise, experienced statesman, and she's embroiled in an ethics scandal of her own. Terrible, terrible decision that was made in haste following the incredible DNC.
211. Laughter? Chris Matthews is spitting on himself.
I see the usual list of trolls here posting their misogynist blather. Face it libs, you simply hate the idea of a woman getting near the oval offic unless they are on their knees bj'ng bj Clinton.
The highest level a woman ever made in Democrat administrations was secretary of state, and when they Do choose a woman, they choose an old bag like Madeline Albright.
Yes, the lib trolls here are scared by a beautiful, successful woman.
: Governor of the largest state in America. Executive experience managing the largest state in the union.
Obama: No executive experience. Once helped ACORN fraudlently register voters.
214. I just love it when the left (like Cato) mentions that she was a mayor of a tiny little town and that's not to be considered much experience, but really conveniently forget to mention the part of being Governor of Alaska. What's that about, senility?
Right, scared of successful women who do it on their own, without having to marry a guy who becomes governor to pave the way for them, and not having to stand by their man while he gets Oval Office hummers for the sake of future power.
They hate that.
216. #208: Hilarious, but true. And frankly, Palin STILL brings more accomplishment as an elected official to the table than Obama, who has absolutely NONE. McCain and Palin EACH BRING MORE ACCOMPLISHMENT TO THE TABLE THAN OBAMA (still waiting, dinesh). So it's the stronger ticket by far.
217. Hurricane Palin developing into a category 5..... headed straight for the Democrat party headquarters....spreading fear and pandemonium among party members....mass evacuation expected by some previous party faithful.....stay tuned for updates on this breaking story.
218. Appears the trolls never took my command to go back to Kos. Again, there is a big difference between the experience required to be POTUS compared to VP. From the sounds here, people think Obama is running against Palin. Isn't Palin the VP nominee? Or did the old swatter miss something this afternoon?
219. 4400 visits so far today. Good day at SP.
If you missed anything swatter it was a collective freak-out by the left.
Someone earlier noted that he ate lunch on Seattle's Capitol Hill and the cafe patrons were clearly steamed over the selection of Palin. He he!!
As I mentioned earlier, Bumbershoot probably won't be all that jolly this year.
Michelle at #84.
I love Arugula. It's healthier for you than iceberg lettuce.
What the hell is arugula, why is it capitalized?
Also, Nancy Pelosi just issued a statement talking about how awful Palin is. Why then, Nancy should
be happy, right?
I'm telling you... the Dems are all freaked out over this. And they had their chance to do it.
BHO last night called for "equal pay for equal work"
BHO=Stalin+Castro+Marx(Karl unfortunately, not Groucho)
"two years ago she was a city council member in Nookachuck! She'll certainally get the christian snowmobiler vote!"
I just grabbed this comment at random off the Seattle Times blog. There are a ton of others that are much the same. I can't think of any good reason to slog through all of it.
The snotty, big city liberal elitist tone of so many of these comments really is telling. Seattle is filled with these judgemental sourpusses.
If you really don't believe me go to Third Place Books in Lake Forest Park, or Metropolitan Market near Laurelhurst. The bitter, angry liberals that inhabit these places haven't ever heard of "excuse me" "can I help you" or even the art of exchanging common pleasantries. Instead of "hi,how our you?" these grumps rush by you with a sniff as if you are an inconvenience. Liberalism makes people unhappy. Check it out for yourselves if you don't believe me.
225. Hillary Clinton got 18 million votes and Obama didn't even consider her.
LOL, if she got 18 mil votes why didn't McCain pick Hillary for VP? Picking Palin is a slap in the face of Hillary supporters, why would McCain pick a lady who only got 114 thousand votes? =P
226. #221: That's very nice, dear.
Fauxbama stepped on his first landmine.You've got to know the signature gatherer can't be happy about being upstaged by McCain nor by the choice of a woman as his running mate. Expect the offspring of the Chicago political machine to start attacking early and often, resorting to the same style of politics he claims to abhor.
Also, Palin-Biden debates should be entertaining as Slow Joe with his smarmy charm will turn off millions of women voters by patronizing Ms. Palin and her "experience".
228. Sarah Palin deserves an award from this blog for # of posts!!! :)
229. What reform did Obama bring to the Chicago Political Machine, other than buy a house with Tony Rezko?? (which doesn't exactly count, does it?)
230. Reagan, Clinton, and Bush were "just governors" with relatively sparse foreign affairs experience who became presidents. State governance is similar, regardless of what state is being governed. Sarah Palin has an 80% positive job rating from Alaskans: she has mastered her job. The big difference is that she follows God and serves her people "with a servant's heart." That kind of submission gives unlimited strength to build great government, and defeat God's enemies: A few mattoidal posters here fear and defame her for that reason. They will reap what they sow, as usual. Obama, the mattoids' boy, has no foreign or state executive experience. Biden has no state executive experience. The Republican ticket is superior.
Pacto, like most everything else OhDrama does, reason and common sense are rarely in the same room with him.
Why didn't he pick Hillary? Who the hell knows?
Why did he pick someone that will be seen on television over, and over, and over again telling us that "OhDrama isn't ready to be president?" (Though I give him props for that small bit of honesty.) Again, who can possibly explain OhDrama's desire to remove so many lug nuts from the wheels of his campaign?
As to the "Why?" of Palin, it points out that in real terms, only McCain is the one of the two truly interested in REAL change.
Palin was an amazing choice. I'm not altogether convinced she was the BEST choice, as I blogged earlier, but she ties the empty suit and stuffed shirt into knots while single-handedly knocking OhDrama and his cutthroat thugs off message in a HUGE way, leaving fringe-left nutters like You Lame Brain to spew garbage and irrelevant nonsense in an effort to make themselves feel better.
232. @230: Damn... you really are a true example of an American Taliban, eh? People that are crazy enough to believe that God is a Republican and Democrats are God's enemies is truly an opponent to democracy.
Awesome Choice of VP ... :-)
I'm smiling about the Republicans for one of the few times over the past 6 years.
Yes, it is quite a day. McCain's selection surprised me - I commend his boldness in making Sarah Palin his selection for VP. She would truly shake things up in DC - which is sorely in need of a shakeup.
Democrats are falling all over themselves to show she has less experience than Obama, which is patently false. A Governor is a governor and trumps a US Senator. Your dog - Obambam had his day yesterday, that is over, but not the skeleton hunt in BHO's closet for the Ayers/ACORN laced skeletons, not to mention Rezko.
#232 BTW- God is neither a Republican or Democrat - he is an independent.
235. Great job Sen. McCain! This was one of only two picks, (Gov of LA being the other) that I would have driven me to actually proactively send money and campaign for John. She's young and understands what the conservatives should bring to the table...and I am not only talking about abortion. I am finally, once again, excited to be a republican... a first since '84!
It is ironic isn't it? Obama made his name claiming he was going to bring a "new lind of politics" breaking with the old devisive ways. And who does he pick? The one man who has been in the Senate longer that John McCain!
And then here comes McCain and delivers on Obama's promise. Yup, McCain just got my vote.
When the lieberals (aka progressives) come here to compare Palin to Obama, we KNOW they are running scared. Even the liberals know that Obama doesn't hold a candle to McCain, so they have to compare him to Palin and even then she has more executive exerience ( running the largest state in the union) than the messiah.
237. WOW!!! What a pick. Bring it on Biden!
Re your comment that McCain loses the mormon vote by not picking Romney.
Yeah, I'm sure that mormons everywhere are just going to swarm to Obama now even those he's pro-abortion, anti-American and inexperienced. (I don' notice a heck of a lot of Mormons anywhere at the DNC do you?)
I know you're bummed that Mr. Change selected Mr. Dollars from Special Interest as his VP, but your bitter little asides aren't going to sideline our enthusiasm for a great choice.
Palin is what the GOP needs, a strong Reagan visionary that understands theres a cesspool mentality among some in republicans that needs to be given back to the democrat party where it belongs.
Actually, no, I was at the top of my Civics class, thankyouverymuch. I obviously know what else goes into being a legislator, but not every legislator is at the head of a committee. The executive branch has a lot more DOING than being on a legislative committee.
Go back to Horse's Ass, where you're obviously from. The Rovian remarks are old, dumb, and irritating.
I got an "A" in civics myself.
So you're convinced that being the mayor of a town known for its numerous gravel pits with rusting abandoned cars and machinery, whose sports complex runs a 125k per year deficit after being sold by the mayor as breaking even, as Governor doubled taxes on the oil/gas industry to hand out energy subsidy checks to Alaskans, who has made one not too bright decision after another as Governor of a State that's barely larger than Seattle in population,
is fit to be one heartbeat away from the Oval Office?
YLB, you may ave gotten an A in civics but you flunked first grade geography! Alaska is ONE FIFTH of the United States. That is nearly 10 times the size of Washington state!
And what is this? I see a liberal complaining that a government official raised taxs on the evil oil companies to give back to the people???? You obviously are in the pocket of big oil!
I DO think that a person who has managed a town (executive experience) and the largest state in the union (almost 10 times the size of Washington) and has military command experience (Alaska Naitonal Guard) IS fit to be one heartbeat away from the Oval Office.
I don't think a man who was a state legislator (zero executive exerience) and spent only 143 days in the US Senate (again zero executive experience) is fit to be the one in the Oval Office.
Are you serious or joking?
If you are serious about comparing resumes between Palin and Obama, you are seriously off the mark.
First off, Obama has a lot more experience than you give him credit. You forget his law degree, and head of Harvard Law Review. You forget his years as State Legislator representing three to five times the population as Palin did as mayor and spending longer as State Senator than Palin did as mayor. You forget that he is finishing his fourth year as a US Senator, not his second year as Governor of a state that has a population around the size of the city of Seattle.
Second, you give being mayor of a small town too much credit. Have you read the town's charter to see what the mayor's actual duties were? Obama, in his community organizing years managed more meetings and coordinated more efforts than the mayor of Wasilla, AK may have encountered.
Finally, you totally miss outside world experience. How much does Palin know about the world? Obama lived in Indonesia. He has traveled the world, like visiting his mother in Pakistan, when she worked there. How much does Palin know about the Rust belt worker? Obama worked in the South-side of Chicago helping displaced Steel workers find new work. In conclusion, there is the whole vetting issue. McCain met with her twice, with the second time being last week. She hasn't been through the grinder of a national campaign. Obama has been through the grinder. McCain has been through the grinder twice.
I hope you are joking on your comments. If not, I believe you are not being realistic and don't recognize the extreme risk McCain has made by this choice. Meg Whitman would have been an outstanding choice, if McCain wanted an woman on the outside. Palin is a very big, very, very big gamble. To me, the lack of vetting and reactionary decision making that McCain put into the choice seriously degrades his argument that he has the judgment and temperament to be president. Maybe the Republicans can shock the world, pull back nominating McCain and go with Romney. Romney has demonstrated a lot more sound judgment than McCain has shown in this his biggest decision leading up to the election. It isn't too late Republicans. Wake up and realize what a disaster this decision is.
You aren't serious are you? Obama has never been the one with whom the buck stops. NEVER. We call that executive experience. Mayor of a town is a good starting point.
Governing the largest state in the union, one fifth of the United States is a more important job than being the head of the Harvard law review. What military command experience does one get as head of the Harvard Law Review? Because as governor of the largest state in the union, Gov Palin has commanded the Alaska National Guard and sent them into combat. What troops has Obama ever commanded? How many troops has Biden ever commanded? Has either Obama or Biden ever been the one person at the top, responsible for a town city or a state?
And didn't Obama promise he was a different kind of politician and would get us away from the politics of the past? Wasn't that what he told all the Democrats in order to defeat the more experienced Hillary Clinton? How exectly is a man like Joseph Biden, a man who has been in the Senat longer that John McCain, a break from the past?
I hope you aren't serious about Obama as commander in chief. I don't think you realize what a risk he is. Remember the last time we had troubles with Iran and had an inexperienced Democrat in office?
Perhaps this will help:
With the Russian Bear's new found hunger for consuming its neighbors, the last thing we need is a man with zero command experience.
Unfortunately, it is too late for Democrats. You have chosen a man with no command experience in the middle of a war. I hope that when you Democrats mark your ballots you wake u and realize what a disaster the nomination of Obama is.
244. #244 comments? Holy cow, this Palin selection has the base fired up!
245. A heartbeat away, huh?
McCain/Palin have raised over 7 MILLION in the 30 hours since the announcement!!
I think the Dem's are getting a bit scared of the groundswell of the Repubicans, and the tidalwave of support.
Keeping insulting small-town America, and you've got another thing coming.
Once again, go back to Horse's Ass. kthxbye.
248. " It isn't too late Republicans. Wake up and realize what a disaster this decision is.
Panic is setting in on the left...
and yes,tc, I was serious about Palin being infinitely more qualified than the Chicago signature gatherer. He's made exactly zero individual executive decisions in his political life while Palin as first a business owner, Mayor and now in her Governorship position has made more in her short time than Obama has made in his entire lifetime. You see tc, there are differences in leadership capabilities. Obama is a "committee" man while Palin is an executive decision maker. Can you understand the fundamental difference now that i've pointed it out to you? Oh, and that ridiculous assertion than because Obama was in Indonesia as a very small boy (probably doesn't even remember any of it)he's now got "international experience"? That's is laughable on its face and I frankly would expect more from you, tc.
I think this pick has you ratttled because you can see the writing on the wall that McCain/Palin will be inaugurated in January '09.