A Gregoire supporter trespassed at a Rossi event, got lawfully removed when he refused to leave on his own, and he wouldn't even let the police conduct a lawful interview of a witness in private. Rossi had nothing to do with any of it, but apparently he's a bad guy because ... oh, I can't even figure out what nonsense the Democrats are thinking here. He's bad because he's a Republican, isn't that good enough?
The Democratic story line they're pushing is that Gregoire is open to cameras, and Rossi is closed, so Rossi is "hiding something." But at least two news crews were there, with cameras. I guess the conservative mainstream media is part of a conspiracy to cover up whatever Rossi is hiding.
And they can't tell us why some Gregoire supporter should have access to a Rossi event, but a reporter from The Olympian should not get access to a Gregoire event.
Oh, and to top it all off, the supposed spirit of openness on the Democratic side apparently doesn't extend to comments posted on their video: all comments require pre-approval. Don't expect to see any anti-Democrat or pro-Rossi comments posted.
UPDATE: As predicted, it's the next morning, and while other new comments have been approved, mine have not been. So much for "openness" from the Democrats.
1. Defense.
2. Taxes
3. Energy
Speaking of #3, Boston just opened a hydrogen fueling station. Although opposed by the Sierra Club and Greenpeace, hydrogen is promising to be the real answer to our energy indepedence. Amazingly "High Tech" Seattle has no hydrogen program whatsoever, but California and Massaschusetts do. This is another example of how far down the food chain our state has slipped under the Democrats. Rossi should be making this contrast of lost technological leadership at every turn.
Posted by: John Bailo on August 12, 2008 01:45 AMDefense...really? He's running for governor and this state already has enough problems.
Let the feds handle that.
Posted by: Chris on August 12, 2008 06:06 AMFor God's sake don't be a moron - this article leaves out the by products of isolating hydrogen at a refinery and also does not factor the subsidies you are footing the bill for (that is if YOU actually pay income taxes).
Why is it that people cannot critically deconstruct these leading articles.
Posted by: JDH on August 12, 2008 07:24 AMhttp://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clarity/home-energy-station.aspx
See details on the FCX Clarity here:
http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clarity/drive-fcx-clarity.aspx
Unfortunately, the ecoscrewballs already have their panties in a twist. They want us all walking.
Posted by: NW Denizen on August 12, 2008 07:43 AMRossi isn't running for President or Congress. He should focus on this:
Freedom
Economy
Education
Transportation
''Hydrogen WILL be the future. It may take some time, but look for it down the road.''
How far down the road it is will depend in large part on how long it takes us to significantly expand electric power generation capacity by starting (immediately if not sooner) to build the new Generation-III+ nuclear power plants; while also moving forward with the follow-on Generation-IV nuclear designs (that will allow us to use the 95 percent of the energy remaining in ''spent'' nuclear fuel rods after they are removed from currently operating nuclear plants, give us an essentially unlimited nuclear fuel supply, and largely solve the long-term nuclear waste problem).
The prototype Gen-IV VHTGR (Very High-Temp Gas Reactor) that will (hopefully) be under construction at INL ''soon'' also addresses the comment by JDH; i.e.:
''this article leaves out the by products of isolating hydrogen at a refinery ....''
The very high-temp reactor designs allow for not only electrical power generation, but also for much more effecient production of hydrogen via process heat electrolysis with a chemical catalyst; i.e.:
Directly splitting water into its H2 and O components.
SUMMARY: We can get there, if we can beat back the politically-correct far-left obstructionist eco-extremists.
Posted by: Methow Ken on August 12, 2008 09:11 AMAnd hydrogen cars? The perfect case where government intervention is needed. Investment in hydrogen infrastructure is what is really holding fuel cell technology back, not "far-left obstructionist eco-extremists". Heck, the California "Hydrogen Highway" has only gotten off the ground with government investment.
Posted by: demo kid on August 12, 2008 09:32 AMHe was trespassing on private property, was told and warned repeatedly to leave; he did not. Hence, he is guilty of the crime of trespassing. Rather simple huh?
Posted by: Mark1 on August 12, 2008 09:54 AMSo the choice is, ignore him and wait for the next time they do something more outlandish in order to garner MORE attention ... or, nip it in the bud and remove the trespasser.
Pretty straightforward, imo.
Posted by: jimg on August 12, 2008 10:16 AMIf we embark on a space race style program to build a series of big VHTGR plants, we can easily ramp our electricity capacity to the point where the byproducts will be enough Hydrogen and enough electricity to change over to less oil based transportation. And we can suplement the big ractors with Pebble Bed reactors nearer to local distribute points and much safer, much like many of the smaller Natrual Gas plants that are being built now in more dense areas such as the Alviso plant along 237 in the South San Francisco Bay.
BUT ONLY if we do the nukes.
Demo Kid likes the idea of subsidy and investment for Hydrogen, but I doubt he/she is for Nukes. Windmills are great in the Don Quixote story and nothing more. There's not enough subsidy to pay for the thousands of sq. miles of land needed to build all of the windmills, let alone all of the power lines, maintenance, etc.
This is the primary reason to vote McCain. MORE ENERGY NOW.
Energy, Fuel, McCain.
Posted by: Jeff B. on August 12, 2008 10:26 AM"Oh, and to top it all off, the supposed spirit of openness on the Democratic side apparently doesn't extend to comments posted on their video: all comments require pre-approval. Don't expect to see any anti-Democrat or pro-Rossi comments posted."
Isn't the Washington Democrats YouTube page the private property of the Washington Democrats? (subject, of course, to the reserved contractual rights of the YouTube owners to delete materials under YouTube's own policies)
So the Washington Democrats have the same right to remove Pudge's comments, as the Seattle Police Officers Guild has to remove persons that it does not desire from their headquarters building.
If Dino Rossi has a blog or YouTube channel, I am sure that he doesn't let anti-Rossi comments get posted there either.
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you're all retarded. If you don't want someone at your event, regardless of who else was invited they should kick them out. Then he tried to play the little whiner... "but what am I doing?" Anyone who doesn't think this guy should have been cuffed and take to jail after ignoring 4 different requests to leave by an officer is just being antagonistic.
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The Seattle Times calls this news?
If you were having a private meeting and some uninvited guy with a camera kept walking onto your property even after already being warned not to, you'd have him removed too.
The photographer clearly has an agenda, and perhaps the Seattle Times does too.
Posted by: Richard Pope on August 12, 2008 10:38 AMThis is just another form of terrorism. A guy with a camera that won't leave when asked to do so and then puts his message up on YouTube is hoping for the same chilling effect as a terrorist who blows himself up in a crowded shopping district. Either way, the intent is to win through intimidation and not through persuasion.
This is the primary difference between the left and right, between socialism and capitalism, between force and freedom.
We do need to be smarter. Rossi should brief the police and either let folks like that just hang around and get no useful footage, or make sure that the police ask difficult and yet calm questions of these intellectual terrorists such as "Why would you disrupt a meeting when you were not invited." or "Do you support Christine Gregoire?"
These are the same brownshirts who will turn in their fellow union employees for not following the party line.
And it is probably time to send the same young conservatives to Gregoire rallies with cameras. Even though this is not the usual tactic of conservatives, sometimes you have to fight fire with fire. Most likely, there would be a bunch of Gregoire hooligans that would be much more violent towards any conservative. The footage would be great. Maybe hidden cameras.
In fact, we ought to be putting up large "Dino" signs in Blue neighborhoods, with web cams trained on them. Nothing like catching the tolerant left in the act of defacing Republican campaign signs.
Expose their intimidation tactics.
Posted by: Jeff B. on August 12, 2008 10:40 AMGregoire is just using that same playbook and looking for something... anything they can use to say Rossi is:
A) Racist
B) Mean spirited
C) In bed with special interest
D) Any other thing they can catch on tape
I have to agree with jimg on this one. It's better to nip it in the bud and have this guy look like a raving loon to the cops on video than let him get damaging video from something innocent.
Posted by: Ken on August 12, 2008 10:42 AMAnd I'm just talking about the car here, there is also the problem of generation (secondary fuel cost) and distribution. But that's for another day.
If everything goes according to plan for hydrogen powered cars, experts say we could see the first practical ones by 2020. If everything goes to plan. So unless the government you put so much faith in can repeal the laws of Murphy we may be driving hydrogen cars in large enough quantities to actually make a difference in our oil consumption by 2050 or maybe 2065 or so. Maybe a little longer. But don't bet on it.
But, of course, plenty of subsidies available to mine, process, use and dispose of nuclear fuel.
@25: And yet, they're opening up hydrogen refueling stations as we speak. I'll agree that there are issues with where the power comes from, design of the cars, range, etc. However, infrastructure stands as the biggest problem for the widespread implementation of any new fuel system... and that can be more easily overcome with government intervention, especially when energy security is an important national concern.
Posted by: demo kid on August 12, 2008 12:00 PMRepublicans have a huge issue like offshore drilling and barely use it. In this state they have Gregoire's out of control budget and inability to get things done,(can you say new ferries?). Sometimes I really have to wonder if Republicans really want to win elections. They don't act like it.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on August 12, 2008 12:07 PMOh, and Rossi's a fraud and a phony. Voting for him is like voting for Bush all over again. If Bush sold real estate and was in bed with the BIA.
Posted by: certaindoom on August 12, 2008 12:12 PMWhen it comes to shining the light on the GOP (sic) candidate, well, they just can't let that happen.
Rossi "prefers G.O.P." because the word Republican makes anyone that loves America want to puke.
Posted by: All Facts Support My Positions on August 12, 2008 12:19 PMIf you notice from the video, it wasn't Rossi who asked him to leave, it was the Police Guild... You know... the people who own the property and building he was in.
So in the liberal world, it's OK to go anywhere you want uninvited and if people ask you to leave then it must be a police state.
It's a sorry time ahead under the left.
Posted by: Ken on August 12, 2008 12:39 PMI wonder if he is just parodying someone from the Angry Left. If not, it looks like we're winning.
Posted by: b2 on August 12, 2008 12:49 PM
Wow. Rossi is in bed with the Bureau of Indian Affairs? I never knew.
Hint - if you're going to run your mouth and spew childish insults, at least get them right.
Posted by: jimg on August 12, 2008 01:43 PM"So the Washington Democrats have the same right to remove Pudge's comments, as the Seattle Police Officers Guild has to remove persons that it does not desire from their headquarters building."
Um. You're making my point for me, Richard Pope. They shouldn't complain about this guy being removed if they're going to censor comments.
But thanks for not lying this time! Well, actually, I guess the fact that you're implying that I disagreed with your point (which was MY point) is a lie. Oh well, maybe next time.
swatter:
No, I never mistreated Richard Pope. On the contrary, I have been far more kind than he deserves. When you repeatedly lie, you don't deserve nice treatment.
certaindoom and "Facts":
No one believes you when you make obviously dishonest claims.
Apparently, the same part that allows conservatives to not be able to tell the difference between a "press conference" and a closed-door meeting.
If you're going to pick nits, fellas, at least know the difference, um'kay?
Posted by: BOAT GUY on August 12, 2008 03:38 PMHm, what part of "PRESS CONFERENCE" does Rossi & SPG not understand.
Um. What about the words "press conference" imply to you that it is open to any member of the public? Especially ones hostile to his campaign?
Apparently, the same part that allows conservatives to not be able to tell the difference between a "press conference" and a closed-door meeting.
Yes, obviously, there is a big difference: Rossi is open for the world to see, albeit through the lens of the press, and Gregoire was closed to the world.
You aren't helping your candidate here.
Sure according to the letter of the law the creep was trespassing.
The Rossi campaign allowed the Gregoire Campaign in the person of this "cameraman" to play them for fools. They ought to have had the common sense to leave the guy be. But instead they gave him exactly what he wanted, a chance to appear pathetic and abused by right wing nazi goons and get it splashed all over Youtube and the Seattle Times.
These guys play dirty. Why do we fall for their tactics?
Naw, teleportation is the way to go. : )
Posted by: NW Denizen on August 12, 2008 05:10 PMAre you getting it yet, Republicans?
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on August 12, 2008 05:47 PMYou're right. With TWO NEWS CREWS in attendance, Rossi was obviously HIDING.
Posted by: pudge on August 12, 2008 06:13 PMTypical ploy of a woman scorned......(BTW I am a woman, and I know how WE work)
Posted by: Chris N on August 12, 2008 06:31 PMYou aren't getting this and neither is the Rossi Campaign. The Democrats are making them look bad with their most elementary "nasty politics 101" right from their playbook. Rossi and his campaign are acting like the most wet-behind-the-ears neophytes imaginable. Its no wonder we lose elections.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on August 12, 2008 06:32 PMPrivate property rights is not the issue at hand here.
The issue is political tactics. The Democrats hold seminars on this stuff all the time. You can probably get a BA degree from Evergreen State College in "Leftist Political Organizing and Campaign Tactics".
That Democratic camera guy was there for two reasons, the first was to possibly catch Rossi making a gaffe, but the second was more important; to get thrown out physically by "Republican thugs" and make sure it was recorded and got media coverage.
And the fools in the Rossi campaign took the bait.
And we sit around whining about how the guy violated property rights. Hey! This is politics, folks!
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on August 12, 2008 06:58 PMYes, Missouri!
And "high tech" Washington? Sheeesh....
Posted by: John Bailo on August 12, 2008 09:09 PMI am not arguing with you that this should have been handled differently.
But that doesn't mean I can't tell leftists that they are full of it when they lie and make stupid things up.
I can do both, you know. :-)
Posted by: pudge on August 12, 2008 09:39 PMEven when the on-duty officers arrived, he was trying to antagonize them too. The little criminal turd should be locked up for a month.
Posted by: pbj on August 12, 2008 09:50 PMThe word "progressives" does the same... that must make me a diverse and equal opportunity ... emesis producer.
Re Bill C... I understand your point, however I also think it's time were DONE trying to make them like us, or to get along so they don't attempt to make us feel bad or heaven forbid, look bad. Those are THEIR parameters and frankly I'm sick of them.
The Rossi organization, the police group had every single right to allow or disallow whomever the hell they choose. This moonbat tried to play stupid ... boohoo 'what did I do'. He knew exactly what he did and the police had the the giant sized snickers to call him on it. Good for them!
Let's stop rewarding these children for their bad behaviour when they attempt to embarass us in public. It really isn't that much different than a toddler tantrum over not getting the candy he sees in the check out line. There are 2 kinds of parents to those children: those that guarantee the same behaviour next time by giving in and those that act like adults and remember who is actually in charge. I prefer the 2nd type in parents and politicians.
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on August 12, 2008 10:21 PMSuppose they had allowed this so called "cameraman" to stay. What do you suppose the odds are that he would not have pushed the envelope into a confrontation anyway?
I am reminded of too many instances where libs have thrown food at conservative speakers and ended up getting their melons thumped.
Why take the chance? I think the officers did the right thing.
Perception is everything in politics. The Democrats know this which is why the public percieves (thanks to Youtube and the biased report in the Times), that Rossi thugs beat up a poor innocent Gregoire supporter. That's what the Democrats wanted and the Rossi Campaign let themselves be duped.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on August 13, 2008 08:42 AMWhy are candidates including Rossi not using the term Republican on the ballot or the majority of their campaign materials? Even Spokane County GOP Party Chairman Curt Fackler is running as a non-partisan candidate.
I can't wait for the day when this divisive name-calling is as obsolete as the media that produced and perpetuated it.
Posted by: Acid Brain on August 13, 2008 09:41 AMRossi did the same in 2004 (not the ballot, obviously, because the law was different). Look at all his materials and signs from last time. Who cares? Everyone knows Rossi is a Republican, many of his materials DO say he is a Republican, "GOP" is an official legal synonym for "Republican." It is the same thing.
Even Spokane County GOP Party Chairman Curt Fackler is running as a non-partisan candidate.
And Joe Lieberman is an independent. So what?
Just for consistency, did Rossi run as GOP or Republican in '92 and '96?
Posted by: Acid Brain on August 13, 2008 10:53 AMThis is simple: find me one person who doesn't know Rossi is a Republican.
(BTW, I wasn't here in '92 or '96, and even if I were, I doubt I would have paid attention to Rossi's State Senate campaign at the time.)
Are you kidding me? You think the DEMOCRATIC PARTY VICE PRESIDENT NOMINEE is somehow less significant on the party totem pole than the chairman of a small county in Washington State?!
Wow.
As to Rossi, you are lying, there is no re-branding. Again, he used "GOP" just as much in 2004. The only difference is that it is now on the ballot, because of a law change.
And you're being stupid here: if you cannot find a single person who doesn't know that Rossi is a Republican, then why are you insisting that he is doing it to hide the fact that he is a Republican?
You were told, and there was no rebuttal, that Rossi is "branding" himself in the same way in 2008 as in 2004. And yet you persist in spreading the obviously false statement that he is "re-branding" himself.
You're lying. There's no polite way to say it.
As to stupidity, you're the one who made the argument that people don't know Rossi is a Republican. That's pretty stupid.
Um hello! Girls! Stop the cat fight and think: PRINTING COSTS!
Which takes less of that evil horrible oil based product called INK? Three little letters (GOP) or TEN letters (Republican)?
By using the monkier 'GOP', Rossi is being an environmentally sensitive steward of the earth and her resources AND being fiscally responsible!
Duh.
{/sarcasm}
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on August 13, 2008 01:06 PMOfficially changing the entry next to his name on the 2008 ballot from Republican to GOP ...
Please stop lying. That never happened, and you know it. In 2004 it was which party nominated you. In 2008 it is your party preference. Nothing was "changed" -- officially or otherwise -- because they are two different things, an official party designation, and a preference.
On your broader insipid complaint, that he is hiding something by using "GOP," this makes as much sense as if I were to claim that any Democrat who puts "D" or "Dem" next to their name is trying to hide something. They are synonyms. And everyone who CARES about party affiliation KNOWS what they all mean; anyone who DOESN'T care about party affiliation DOESN'T CARE what they mean. There will be no effect whatsoever.