July 18, 2008
The Solution Is Obvious

Today, on KUOW's Gang of Four show, Eli Sanders (subbing for Knute Berger) was complaining that Republicans had mocked Al Gore and John Kerry, and are now — horror of horrors — beginning to mock Barack Arugula Obama.

Eli, there's a simple solution for your problem:  If Democrats do not want Republicans to laugh at Democratic candidates, then Democrats should nominate serious candidates.  Democrats should not nominate a snobbish, gaffe-prone, junior senator, with no significant accomplishments, but an enormous regard for himself.  There are serious people in the Democratic party, though fewer than there once were.  Choose one of them, instead of Obama.

(Have the Democrats chosen the funniest possible candidate this time?  Not necessarily.   John Edwards would be stiff competition for that title, as would Dennis Kucinich.

Finally, some advice for Eli Sanders:  If you want to be fainting Obama fan, go ahead.   Take a leave of absence, join his campaign, and stop pretending to be a journalist.  I am telling you this for your own good.  Really.)

Posted by Jim Miller at July 18, 2008 12:10 PM | Email This
Comments
1. If he were to decry the Democrats mocking McCain in addition to the reverse, then I could listen. I am glad, Jim, it is you tuning into this program and reporting to us.

Clinton was about the only serious candidate this time around. She lost because she lost focus and was hoodwinked by the Obama cape.

Posted by: swatter on July 18, 2008 12:20 PM
2. We shouldn't be concerned that the Republicans are resorting to primary school namecalling, as opposed to talking about real issues? Wow... you really are petty.

Posted by: demo kid on July 18, 2008 12:24 PM
3. Jim, what can the Democrats do to nominate people as serious as George W. Bush?

Posted by: thehim on July 18, 2008 12:25 PM
4. Find someone for whom a sewage plant is to be named. :)

Posted by: Duffman on July 18, 2008 12:40 PM
5. WOW! Ten AM Friday on an obscure FM radio station. No wonder the Democratics want a Fairness doctrine.

Posted by: ROCKETMAN on July 18, 2008 12:40 PM
6. SNOBama needs to quit talking down to us . . . .

[Edited for taste - Jim Miller]

Posted by: Jesse Jackass on July 18, 2008 12:55 PM
7. Alex, I'll take 'the absurd' for $100

Answer: Reverend Jackson

Question: What is the ultimate oxymoron

:)

Posted by: Duffman on July 18, 2008 01:06 PM
8. Duffie
What is the ultimate oxymoron
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Yep, coming from you, it sure is! 0-:

Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on July 18, 2008 01:08 PM
9. Life just wouldn't be fun w/out you AM/V... :)

Posted by: Duffman on July 18, 2008 01:11 PM
10. Yep Duffie.

I'm just here to keep YOU in-line.

So have you gotten Kerry to sign form 180 yet?

Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on July 18, 2008 01:19 PM
11. Well, you know funny thing; I sent him this Link some time ago but alas -no response. :)

Posted by: Duffman on July 18, 2008 01:25 PM
12. demo kid @2 -

ROFLMAO. Seriously, stop, you're killing me!

You're aware, are you not, that Jim has tried and tried to have a discussion about Obama's real accomplishments during the last few months?

Unfortunately, none of the BHO supporters that frequent this site have been willing to step up to the plate with a list of such accomplishments.

Posted by: ewaggin on July 18, 2008 01:35 PM
13. 11. Geeee I wonder why duffie. LOL

Something about PH might be a problem.

Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on July 18, 2008 01:36 PM
14. I have to wonder if these guys have had any problem whatsoever with all of the jokes and frankly just plain verbal sewage hurled at President Bush by their far-left friends all this time. Is it only bad to make fun of democrats but not republicans? Is that what he's saying?? I've heard republicans joke about all of Obama's flip-flopping, amazing pastor problems, mistakes and general unpreparedness to be president, but never have I heard the absolute bile that I hear coming from the democrats about President Bush. Get over it, boys.

Posted by: Michele on July 18, 2008 01:48 PM
15. @12: We can have a discussion about Obama's qualifications, but don't get distracted. Mocking someone for idiotic reasons isn't the same thing as having a mature political discussion. Unfortunately, right-wing loons seem more interested in harping on things that make no difference whatsoever to real issues.

Posted by: demo kid on July 18, 2008 01:49 PM
16. @14: I have to wonder if these guys have had any problem whatsoever with all of the jokes and frankly just plain verbal sewage hurled at President Bush by their far-left friends all this time.

Sorry, Charlie, but the verbal sewage has been hurled in both directions there. Assuming that Bush is just a wide-eyed innocent being abused by Democrats for no reason is blind to how he has vilified and belittled his opposition. He deserves what he gets a good portion of the time.

Posted by: demo kid on July 18, 2008 01:53 PM
17. #3: I don't know, thehim, what democrats can do to nominate a candidate serious enough to be electable like George W. Bush, but they'll just have to figure it for themselves. George W Bush: 2-term president. As for Gore and Kerry---didn't exactly get elected to the presidency.

Posted by: Michele on July 18, 2008 01:53 PM
18. ..err, braggin or complaining :)

Posted by: Duffman on July 18, 2008 01:56 PM
19. #16: The obscenity meter toward President Bush is off the charts when it comes to things the dems have said. You don't see obscenity hurled at Obama by people here, do you? Only cruise through HA and KOS etc. and you'll see what I mean. Also, have you seen the jokes and pictures depicting/wishing President Bush being murdered/assassinated, etc? I've seen nothing like that about Obama by conservatives. Perhaps you haven't paid enough attention.

Posted by: Michele on July 18, 2008 02:08 PM
20. Attention, indeed:


Fox analyst apologizes for Obama assassination joke

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0508/Fox_analyst_apologizes_for_Obama_assassination_joke.html

Posted by: Ryan on July 18, 2008 02:16 PM
21. Or there was Mike Huckabee's joke:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/17/us/politics/17huckabee.html

Posted by: Ryan on July 18, 2008 02:18 PM
22. Demo Kid, are you suggesting that mocking someone for mature reasons is acceptable. I would suggest that mocking someone is perhaps the best way to trivialized them. Obama has no qualification to be President. I say this based on a number of reasons: No achievements to speak of; No previous management experience; Not qualified to be a CEO of any Fortune 500 company.
These are just a few of the reasons. In other words Obama has no provable substance.

Given that he is without substance or experience, it would be difficult to have a meaningful discussion with him or his supportive lackeys on any real issues as the mere fact that they support Obama speaks volumes for their lack of experience and substance.

Posted by: Snuffy on July 18, 2008 02:23 PM
23. Sorry Ryan, but if that's all you have then it looks to me like conservatives have an awful long way to go to catch up with the left in this department. Surely you've seen the too-numerous-to-count posters and signs and "fantasy" films ad nauseum about killing President Bush, screams of hate and murder at the rallies these far lefties hold? One almost stops being shocked at what comes out of these people.

Posted by: Michele on July 18, 2008 02:26 PM
24. And some of the bile spewed against Tony Snow, one of the best human beings ever, is even more revolting.

Posted by: swatter on July 18, 2008 02:34 PM
25. @15, OK, let's have a discussion of Obama's qualifications.
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OK. Done now, thanks for playing.

Posted by: Obi-Wan on July 18, 2008 02:34 PM
26. As someone who is no Bush fan I agree there is no comparison in 'attacks' - Pres Bush has indeed suffered the worst.
I do poke fun at him (as I would any President) but IMO the bottom-line on Pres Bush won't be in for another five (5) years. History will then be in a position to pass judgement on his achievements or lack thereof. As an American I thank him for our safety up 'till now since 09/11 and I Pray To God that it will continue under the next administration.
Hopefully (for him) we will see something other than 'a sewage treatment plant in S.F.' named after him as his legacy. And...how could he really be as bad as some claim and still manage to hang on to such a lovely and gracious spouse.
:)...hang in there buddy; it'll be 'ranch-time' soon.

Posted by: Duffman on July 18, 2008 02:35 PM
27. @26: Hopefully (for him) we will see something other than 'a sewage treatment plant in S.F.' named after him as his legacy.

I can imagine that there are a lot of landfills, prisons, and remedial schools that need names, too.

Posted by: demo kid on July 18, 2008 02:47 PM
28. "We shouldn't be concerned that the Republicans are resorting to primary school namecalling, as opposed to talking about real issues? Wow... you really are petty."

As opposed to the Democrats using ethnic slurs. Wow you Democrats are really sleazy.

Posted by: pbj on July 18, 2008 02:48 PM
29. Demo,

I heard that Bill and Monica were planning a joint (no pun intended) venture into the women's fashion market. Krispy Kreme took exception, however, and sued to prevent them from using their name on the label.

They decided to produce a cigar cam instead.

Posted by: NW Denizen on July 18, 2008 03:02 PM
30. Duffman @26: Even though we almost never ever agree with your positions on any issue, I gotta say you are a class act. Thank you for being honest and a gentleman!

Posted by: katomar on July 18, 2008 03:17 PM
31. Jokes are important. Please everybody, keep laughing.

I recently made the mistake of cracking a globalwarming joke to the wrong person. I got a thirty minute lecture. Very boring.

I like jokes.

Posted by: ljm on July 18, 2008 03:17 PM
32. "I can imagine that there are a lot of landfills, prisons, and remedial schools that need names, too."

But naming all of them after you would be a little TOO wierd.

Posted by: hinton on July 18, 2008 03:37 PM
33. katomar, I agree, Duffman is a class act. There aren't many of them from the left. He's also smart, as he's figured out that a well reasoned position, coherently argued, will get a fair consideration. I usually look at who made a post before I'll read it. Most of the ones from the left I skip, but I'll read Duffman's. If I remember correctly he said he voted for Nixon, so we have something in common. :-)

Posted by: Obi-Wan on July 18, 2008 03:51 PM
34. I don't think they'll name a remedial school or prison after demo kid while he's still a resident.

Posted by: Obi-Wan on July 18, 2008 03:54 PM
35. I mean REALLY! One would think that, after Bill Clinton, Democrats would have come up with some better candidates. No, it's almost as if the Democrats have thrown up their middle fingers in a gesture saying "Screw you, we are going to show you that Clinton was an okay guy by throwing up even worse candidates. You think Clinton was bad, we'll show you bad." First we get Al Gore who tries in vain to subvert a presidential election in Florida and then turns out to be the perpetrator of probably the worst fraud that has ever been inflicted on America. Then we get John Kerry who, after being nearly booted out of the Navy, flies to Hanoi in uniform to hobnob with the enemy in time of war, thereby selling out both his country and his comrades in arm. Kerry has never done anything in life but feed off rich widows and the public trough. Now we get Obama who has no track record except that he has spent over 50 per cent of his career running for higher public office. Oh, sorry, I forgot that Obama did help to alleviate the "globall warming" situation by sitting on his hands while folks living in his "real estate agent's" slum were freezing and without heat because said "real estate agent" was too cheap to turn on the heat. Come on Democrats. Who is next...Charles Manson? You had better hurry, Charlie is getting old.

Posted by: NW Denizen on July 18, 2008 03:54 PM
36. Correction: John Kerry has his faults, but he did not fly to Hanoi in uniform. He did go to Paris while he was still in the Navy reserve and talk to the two communist delegations. That's bad, but not nearly as bad as the accusation above.

Posted by: Jim Miller on July 18, 2008 04:09 PM
37. I hear Obama is working through a medium to commune with the spirit of Henri Philippe Benoni Omer Joseph Pétain to figure out how to run a country with such a funny name, and to find out how to surrender the good ole USofA to Islamo-Fascists! And he's even been seen smoking Gauloises! Liberté, égalité, fraternité!

Posted by: Acid Brain on July 18, 2008 04:52 PM
38. 36. I stand corrected Jim, thank you. Kerry is slightly less a traitor than I portrayed him, if that's possible.

Posted by: NW Denizen on July 18, 2008 05:06 PM
39.
Barack is a vast yawn, much more than most presidential candidates in recent memory. Bob Dole was a genuine war hero, as was George H. Bush and as was John Kennedy. John McCain is a man of great courage as a POW. Ronald Reagan made fame and fortune before entering politics. Hubert Humphrey took on Democrat racists in 1948. Eisenhower commanded armies. Even Carter attended the Naval Academy and learned at the knee of Hyman Rickover, a great patriot. Heck, even George McGovern flew a B-17 in the Second World War. Nearly every man who has run for president in the last forty years had something in his biography besides "politician." Everyone, that is, except for Obama. More than any candidate in modern history, Barack Obama is nothing more than another politician.


Besides, Real Men Vote for McCain... #10 is my favorite reason...

10. McCain is endorsed by Clint Eastwood, Sylvester Stallone, and Arnold Schwarzenegger. Obama gets support from Leonardo DiCaprio, Matt Damon, Oprah Winfrey, Tom Hanks, and every weenie in Hollywood. Plus, Susan Sarandon has vowed to leave the country if McCain gets elected. Case closed.

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on July 18, 2008 05:08 PM
40. Obi Wan / Kato...thanks much. :)

Posted by: Duffman on July 18, 2008 05:20 PM
41. See, it's comment wars like this that make Duffman my favorite commenter representing folks on the other side of the political coin. He gives you his and then he takes yours.
Oh wait, that was a song about a truck driver...

Posted by: Don Ward on July 18, 2008 05:28 PM
42. Geeesh Don, you sure that wasn't a movie...i.e. 'I wish I could quit ya'...ha

Posted by: Duffman on July 18, 2008 05:41 PM
43. Nah Duffer, I'm just getting all sentimental because I won't be able to have you comment on my posts at Sound Politics any more.

You're going to have to comment on them at the Seattle Weekly instead:-)

Posted by: Don Ward on July 18, 2008 06:01 PM
44. Demo Kid posted:

We shouldn't be concerned that the Republicans are resorting to primary school namecalling, as opposed to talking about real issues? Wow... you really are petty.

OK, so let's talk issues. Why is Barack Obama qualified to be President? Specific accomplishments, please.

Posted by: Shanghai Dan on July 18, 2008 06:02 PM
45. @43, Don, do tell. Did I miss the memo? You leaving SP for SW?

Posted by: Obi-Wan on July 18, 2008 07:38 PM
46. My cover story is in the SW this week.
Just got the confirmation today that I'll be their newest online contributor. Official announcement coming this Monday to SP.

Posted by: Don Ward on July 18, 2008 08:44 PM
47. Barrack Obama is ten times as ready and accomplished to be President as George Bush was when he first ran. Please.

Posted by: westello on July 19, 2008 10:04 AM
48. OK, Westello, I'll play (and Demo Kid, you're welcome to join in, too!).

What are Barack Obama's qualifications for the Presidency? What specifically has he done to show executive - or even national - leadership?

Posted by: Shanghai Dan on July 19, 2008 10:14 AM
49. @ 44 - Good luck on getting an answer from Demo kid on that question, but don't hold your breath waiting.

Electing Barack Obama would be like making the Janitor the CEO because "he speaks well and everyone likes him". Absurd to the Nth degree, but that is what we're looking at with a "community Organizer" seeking the top job in the land. I have to admit though, the Democrats followed their usual playbook in selecting style over substance, which is why they've had such a success rate in presidential elections over the past 30 years, right?

Posted by: Rick D. on July 19, 2008 10:55 AM
50. "Given that he is without substance or experience, it would be difficult to have a meaningful discussion with him or his supportive lackeys on any real issues as the mere fact that they support Obama speaks volumes for their lack of experience and substance."

Um, that's "Bush", and you're eight years too late, but it's good to see that you did eventually make it. (You're an unusually fast learner, for a rightie.)

"Correction: John Kerry has his faults, but he did not fly to Hanoi in uniform."

What's worse: the original commenter actually believed this, or that (s)he thought the rest of us were gullible enough to believe it?

Posted by: tensor on July 19, 2008 12:37 PM
51. Rick,

Oh I know Demo Kid, westello, and tensor will never answer. Because they can't - the reality is that Barack Obama has zero qualifications to even be a state Senator, let alone President.

Tensor,

Same challenge to you. You decry the lack of President Bush's experience prior to his becoming President.

Please tell me (and I'm waiting for Demo Kid and Westello, too) what are the higher qualifications that justify Barack Obama seeking the Presidency?

Can you name is qualifications? His experience? Since you are so sure President Bush was lacking in both, you must know what Barack Obama possesses to address both of those areas.

Silence is quite damning, don't you think?

Posted by: Shanghai Dan on July 19, 2008 02:51 PM
52. Barrack Obama is ten times as ready and accomplished to be President as George Bush was when he first ran.

So, let's see. That means that The Chosen One has 60 years as governor. What state was that again?

Posted by: Obi-Wan on July 20, 2008 07:17 AM
53. Oh, my, mocking The Savior, Barack Hussein Obama. My goodness, what's to become of us?

This from the same lousy 'Rats who have been drawing cartoon pictures of George Bush as a chimp for the past seven years. Lousy 'Rat hypocrites.

Posted by: Interested Observer on July 20, 2008 12:06 PM
54. Dan, the 'Rats think the Obomination is eminently qualified because of his experience as a rabble rous..., uh, "Community Organizer". After all, expertise in agitprop is one important qualification for General Secretary of the ..., I mean, er, President.

Posted by: Interested Observer on July 20, 2008 12:15 PM
55. I just find it funny how not ONE of the Pinhead Trio - "all facts...", Tensor, or Demo Kid - can come up with a SINGLE reason why Obama is qualified. Just one.

Talk about the ultimate shame. As I posted in 51, their silence is damning!

Posted by: Shanghai Dan on July 20, 2008 06:49 PM
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