June 21, 2008
It's in the P-I
Contumelious liberal columnist Joel Connelly reports that the Anti-Defamation League has condemned the BIAW for a newsletter article that compared environmentalists to Nazis.
The BIAW article, which Connelly doesn't link to, is here on p. 8. Reasonable people can debate whether the BIAW's comparison of today's environmentalists to the environmentalist strain of the Nazi movement was offensive, rhetorically effective or historically accurate (and Postman went to town on this). But it's hypocritical for Connelly to charge that
Linking greens to Nazis has become a frequent tactic on hate-talk radio, and among global warming deniers.
In multiple columns, Connelly has himself labelled anybody who presents reasoned scientific arguments against global-warmist political orthodoxy as "mak[ing] more excuses than Holocaust deniers
", "a 21st century equivalent of Holocaust denial
" and even "a greater danger than the lingering industry that denies the Holocaust
If the ADL condemns the BIAW, it should also condemn Connelly.
Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at June 21, 2008
10:00 AM | Email This
Let me get this straight: The name-calling Left - the very same people who've spent the last seven + years screaming about Chimpy Hitler and labeling anybody to the right of them as being fascist neocon nazis are complaining? About being compared to Nazis?
Pardon my language ... but suck on it.
Fascists use populism to gain greater control by the state over the public. They are willing to use the the "BIG LIE" or hyperbole to achieve their ends.
Environmentalists use populism to gain greater control by the state over the public. They are willing to use the the "BIG LIE" or hyperbole to achieve their ends.
The difference lies only in what populist cause is used and which "Big Lie" or hyperbole they exploit. The mechanism is the same. They use the same playbook.
We have much evidence of fascists resorting to wholesale butchery to achieve their ends. The environmentalists have no such record - so far (biofuels?).
Read the BIAW article -
Pretty good educational article, lots of facts, should be easy to fact check. However, just because a Nazi did it doesn't mean it was wrong.
I don't like the statement that links to Nazis just trivialize what happened in WWII. There are a lot of links to Nazis and Hitler that are very relavant today.
The modern American eugenics movement started as a compassionate yet racist view of eliminating negros and had a lot of direct contact with Nazi Germany. They have done exactly what they set out to do, Blacks get far more abortions than other races, they are decreasing as a percentage of the population. It is easy to draw a direct line from Nazis to the Abortionists today with no logical leaps.
On the positive side our Interstate Highway system, has it's roots in Nazi Germany, so does our rocket program.
Finally, the Nazis were socialists, so it is not surprising to see fellow socialists coming up with similar ideas albeit independently.
Well the outcome of the environmentalist's actions will be the wholesale mass executions of all of us to save the planet because the only cause of all "our problems" is us. Like Hitler and Sanger's eugenics, Pol Pot's city emptying strategies, Stalin's "purges", etc. it is an equitable comparison but does so with out explanation.
A few years back I realized the green movement is on a course to do nothing less but exterminate billions of humans after all of "the solutions" do not work. Of course it will be to save the planet! What a great religion they have! Praise Sustainability, Praise Organic! Praise Bikes, Praise Abortion, Praise Gray Water! Glory to you oh neighbor that does as I say as my faith is to fear and to fear is good and to act in fear is divine!
Without wisdom the people will perish and the false wisdom of global warming is a open door to a great purge of billions.
So if the ADL and JC don't like the criticism of their pastors and the message why care? If the pastors and the message are true then so what others say right ADL and JC??
5. Didn't this come up as an issue earlier? Seems the whole kerfuffle has been hashed over before, with the same faux outrage by the left. I suspect it's being resurrected now as a counter punch to the payoff to Queen Christine by the tribes, with the hope it will deflect attention from that particular stinky, uncomfortable mess.
Well gee, I could have told the BIAW that ONLY conservative individuals/groups are allowed to be called "Nazis". E.g., President Bush, aka "chimpy McHitler" and other 'clever' phrases that are supposed to be passing for intellectual political discussion.
Democrat groups are exempt from such name-calling because theirs is the ONLY correct viewpoint to have. On anything.
Got that, BIAW?
7. You have nailed it Michele. Now all we have to do is convince the rest of these nazi's of the truth of this wisdom.
Al Gore has been calling anyone who disagrees with him a "Denier" and makes the link to the Holocaust explicitly. This mental linkage is reinforced all the way down the AGW chain of command until it ends up in its bastardized form in the likes of a Greg Nickles.
I have been offended by that simile from the very beginning. It's offensive for Holocaust victims to be used and their legacy manipulated by Gore and Company. It's repulsive to have what is a scientific issue, open for debate, to have free speech squelched by using a Godwin on anyone who dares to open his mouth.
True or not, we're on the road to paying carbon credits as Tax. Rumor has it, the powers-that- be are looking into county governments to take on the responsibility of collecting the money.
Science has nothing to do with this anymore.
It's all about private property.
Not mentioned by Connelly or Gregoire is the brainwashing campaign the global warming fear-mongers are foisting on the nation's children. My 8-year old niece has been attending "zoo camp" in Denver. My liberal sister reports that her daughter comes home worried about the polar bears and has a daily litany of environmental worries that even my sister tires of.
Smug liberals like Connelly know this is going on all over the country in our public schools and elsewhere, starting as early as daycare.
I wouldn't go so far as to call the environmental leftists that control the education of our children Nazis. Surely however there must be an appropriate name for them.
Did you send these Connelly diatribes to the ADL??
I hope you do...and demand an answer.
Also send it to the P-I and demand that they sanction Connelly..
perhaps cutting down his daily jelly-filled, glazed donut allocation from 3 dozen down to 35!!
Nothing worse than a hypocitical, guilt-ridden fat white guy who buys ink by the barrel.
Here, Here. That 'ole Joel is a piping windbag of hypocrisy. He's really got himself tangled up in a logical fallacy with this latest gust of liberal fact-unfriendly gusto.
Connelly is the self-appointed arbiter of all things good vs. evil, and green vs. brown. He's full of the latter up to his eyebrows, but hey, he gets away with it because he's always been that way.
Maybe he'll quit his job and just go work for Gregoire?
13. Do as they say, not as they do. I wish I had a dollar for every time someone who didn't believe the Global Warming hoax was labeled a Holocaust denier.
Comparing global warming deniers to Holocaust deniers is almost as offensive as calling Ron Sims "the Robert Mugabe of Washington politics":
15. Environmentalism is the new way to control the populace...it has the full weight of socialism in that you take citizens profits to pay folks because the policies of the enviro's have taken all the populaces money... nice
What an interesting newletter. At last an business organization that is not afraid to attack the the environmental madness that is slowly but surely squeezing the life out of us.
Mark Musser (on the page 8 mentioned BIAW newsletter) made an apt comparison between the Nazi's anti-industrial fervor and those of today's environmentalists.
This excerpt from the Ominous Parallels by Leonard Peikoff seems chillingly familiar:
".... Nazi literature heaps abuse on wealth, cities, machinery and Germany's preoccupation, in Hitler's words, with "an industrialization as boundless as it was harmful." The credo of modern society, writes the Nazi Werner Sombart in a bitter denounciation, is: "More motors, more currency, more goods! More rapid production, more rapid travel, livelier enjoyment! Prosperity! progress! Without end, without end!" The antonym of such progress is indicated by the second part of the Nazi slogan: "Blood and Soil." "Soil" in this context means the life of the humble, unthinking peasant, or of the state-run, racially pure agricultural communes, as against the life of the "cunning," "mongrelized" city dweller. It means the selfless martial discipline of Germany's Middle Ages, as against the modern desire for economic comfort and well being. It means the mystical merging with primitive nature, as against an atmosphere of insatiable, profit-seeking production and "cold," calculating mechanization....."
17. The GW Luddites are going to murder millions across the planet via ethanol and carbon credits, while heaving sacks of **** like Connelly ride the GW bandwagon as a means to engender a socialist utopia. They couldn't do it during the cold war because their side lost, but now they can try to make it happen in the name of "saving the planet". Same for that jerk over at the Seattle Times, the one who calls himself a libertarian, hates Israel and tries to justify Nazi occupation of the Sudetenland. The media and political "elites" in this region are pretty damn scary people.
Gosh! Maybe it would help if the GW Alarmists quit acting like Nazi's...