June 15, 2008
Point Proved

Recently I lamented ongoing press fascination, indeed confusion at times, with the degree to which respective major party platforms tend not always to align in full with the voting masses who comprise each party's coalition. Let's not even get started on the point to which some elected officials bearing that party's banner may not agree with all elements of those platforms.

To emphasize that fact, note the elements of the state Democratic platform that are as at odds with public opinion and political reality as the state Republican platform's discussion of major changes to modern interpretations of the 14th Amendment:

The "Department of Peace and Nonviolence" is still being proposed. The Department of State apparently not being deemed good enough for that purpose.

State Democrats also hope to re-make the new world order in addition, not only with the renegotiation of NAFTA and other recent trade deals, but also with the re-working of GATT - the foundational framework for modern trade in the post-World War II era. Apparently impressed by the problems with the Doha round of WTO talks, the Democratic faithful would like to re-order the entire structure of the global economy.

Good luck with that.

Not that one should expect any serious Democratic candidate to embrace such an idea. It just shows that sometimes each party's base has some ideas that the bulk of the electorate doesn't quite share.

Posted by Eric Earling at June 15, 2008 02:13 PM | Email This
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1. The State Department is not mandated to deal with non-state paramilitary groups or violence within the USA. The United States needs a well-funded, technologically advanced and highly skilled peace-building department of the government that sits on the President's cabinet and has real power to be a prime mover in foreign affairs. I suggest support for the initiative to create a U.S. Department of Peace, which would complement the State Department and have far more institutional heft to prevent the violence, domestic and international, that costs this nation in the trillions of dollars each year. This violence could be prevented at a fraction of the cost of repressing it, yet with much more funding than is being spent by the State Department on prevention. The elephant in our living room is the violence of the suicidal, adolescent American psyche that needs the tough love of a Secretary of Peace.

Posted by: David Hazen on June 15, 2008 07:06 PM
2. *ahem* Looks like someone HAS been inhaling...a little too much.

Posted by: pbj on June 15, 2008 07:39 PM
3. Why don't we call it the Ministry of Love?

Posted by: Michael H on June 15, 2008 08:38 PM
4. Kumbaya Kouncil?

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on June 15, 2008 08:47 PM
5. How far out in an unstable deep-space orbit can the far-left get ??...
Answer: WAY far out, @ #1:

''The elephant in our living room is the violence of the suicidal, adolescent American psyche that needs the tough love of a Secretary of Peace.''

Right back to the infuriating, anti-American ''Yes, 9-11 was a bad thing, but we can understand why they did it: It's all our fault.''

Still not sure why I wasted my time, but I see from davidhazen.wordpress.com that he claims to be the ''Oregon State Coordinator for the campaign to establish a U.S. Department of Peace''.

Tell you what: Why don't you get a few of your fellow ''it's all our fault'' buddies together, and:

1.. Find yourself public transport that will get you all the way to Peshawar in Pakistan.

2.. Hike into the tribal areas on the Pakistan - Afghanistan border, and see if you can find Bin Laden or some of his fellow terrorist murderers; or at least a few local Taliban. Shouldn't be too hard.

3.. Try a little of your ''tough love'' on a few of THEM, and see what that gets you. Best of luck; we'll understand if you don't report back.

Posted by: Methow Ken on June 15, 2008 09:26 PM
6. Good Post # 5. Methow Ken. David Hazen is just another Con Hustler trying to make a Career for himself by Expanding Government with another unneeded Phony Department on our Tax Dollar.

Posted by: Daniel on June 15, 2008 10:21 PM
7. The elephant in our living room is the violence of the suicidal, adolescent American psyche that needs the tough love of a Secretary of Peace.

Somehow, I don't think that the kids behind Columbine would have suddenly been all peace and love if we had a Secretary of Peace.

Posted by: Mike H on June 15, 2008 10:22 PM
8. We already have a "domestic tough love" department in the US Government. It is called the FBI. And they are complemented by the state, county and local police departments. They are the ones who already "protect and serve" 24/7 and "preserve the peace."

Contrary to what the "law abiding" Lefties tell you, the police do far more than arrest protesters and bust pot growing operations. If your first experience with rules is with the police, then your parents were the ones that failed to teach you right from wrong.

I have never met a cop who put on a uniform every morning, hoping to bust some heads. Cops take FAR more abuse than they allegedly dish out. Sure, Lefties can point to some bad apples that make the evening news, but consider how many good cops there are out there every day doing their jobs -- including the ones who line the streets to protect your right to hold a "peace vigil."

The next time you protest, how about sending the Seattle PD a note thanking them for keeping you safe and keeping the peace?

Posted by: The Real Mark on June 15, 2008 11:42 PM
9. David Hanzen @1 you remind me of why I love my favorite Reagan Quote:

"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Posted by: TrueSoldier on June 16, 2008 01:25 AM
10. This is normal rantings of a communist. As long as this fine state keeps electing communists to elected office....we, all I can say is you get what you voted for. Keep your powder dry.

Posted by: Allan Rothlisberg on June 16, 2008 06:53 AM
11. Well David Hanzen you must have spent quite a while polishing that statement. Sounds pretty direct until you get to the content. The big question for me is what is "tough love" of the peace director? Threaten them with flowers? Tell them we will send over music to calm them? Paint their rooms pink? You don't have the faintest clue what evil people think or do. They do the evil things they do because they hate you and me and they think they are superior to us and all we stand for particularly freedom and democracy. They probably have more respect for me (and our military) because we will hit back instead of laying down and crying uncle or peace peace. David, you've gotta get back to reality and realize the evil people aren't a bunch of silly misunderstood rebels who just want us to love them. If anyone is an adolescent in this country it is you and all like you. Get rid of your rose, er red, colored glasses. You'll be able to see a whole lot better.

Posted by: Vince on June 16, 2008 07:27 AM
12. We all know what "tough love" of the peace director would be. Phase one: speech regulations. Phase two: thought regulations. Phase three: any symptoms displaying irregularities in the above two, psychiatric treatment. Phase four: if Phase three doesn't work, medication to put offending individual in a stupor for the rest of his/her life. Phase five: elimination.

Posted by: katomar on June 16, 2008 07:34 AM
13. The Libs are already in our schools here with their "Peace Builders" program. When my sons were in elementary / high school I had to explain to them that this bull is foolishness. They would ask why and I would explain that as long as there is evil in the world there will be no peace by having nice conversations. You have "PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH" as Reagan said. Now one of my sons is a Marine!! So take that you bleeding heart Libs. Why don't you go to a troubled part of the world and try to talk the terrorists out of their murderous tendencies by singing a few song and see if you even have a head when you come back in a bag!!

Posted by: TruePatriot on June 16, 2008 08:13 AM
14. #12 katomar your comments are a little out of order---phase five is I-1000 and it has moved to Phase one! They will call it "voluntary assisted" for a while, but by time they get this new department it will be mandatory!

#1 "The elephant in our living room is the violence of the suicidal, adolescent American psyche that needs the tough love of a Secretary of Peace"

You may have made a slight slip with this statement. Elephant? You mean me, the guy who might be a threat to your kind of government? Humm. Boys & girls it's time to get concerned about these lefties.

Posted by: Ken Howard on June 16, 2008 08:20 AM
15. True Patriot: Actually, I think I forgot a couple of phases. Somewhere in there would be a phase for restricted movement/travel and association, and a phase for a psychiatric or genetic profiling of all citizens to identify "potential problems". Heck, it's all happened before, actually. But Hitler moved right from identification to elimination.

Posted by: katomar on June 16, 2008 08:35 AM
16. A Department of Peace and Non-Violence follows from a party and ideology that puts emotion and the collective ahead of reason, freedom and individuals. Only in the fantasy world of leftist thought is there consideration for such bunk.

This is the same mindset that allows for Anthropogenic Global Warming, Serial Killer Rehabilitation, Racism of one color as a solution for Racism of another color, etc.

The reality is that we are all individuals. And creating a better world is mostly a function of a better underlying philosophy and thus a better underlying culture. But we are not going to get there with a Pollyanna-ish view of the really evil people who would do us harm. And we are not going to get there by simply placing restrictions on everything we don't like.

It's clear that most of the leftists who propose such policy have never raised children, or done so in active and thinking manner. Because any good parent knows that saying "no" all of the time does not form a child that will make good decisions, but only a child that will wait until there is no one around to say "no."

The Department of Peace and Nonviolence is just like the myriad of useless UN resolutions that have not constrained any of the world's dictators and tyrants in the least. Adults know that the real world requires boundaries. And boundaries mean enforcement.

Posted by: Jeff B. on June 16, 2008 09:14 AM
17. "...tough love of a Secretary of Peace."

And what would that be? Jim McDimwitt and the Department of Peace planting lip prints on the rumps of MS-13 gangbangers no doubt.


Posted by: NW Denizen on June 16, 2008 09:15 AM
18. I find Allan's comment more distressing than the Secretary of Peace nonsense. And the fact that no one, until now, has responded to his classic misrepresentation of liberal Democrats as communists distresses me even more. I choose to believe that your silence is not approval.

Allan: Not only is portraying Democrats as communists misrepresenting the facts, it's counter productive. It instantly labels you as a wacko. I'm guessing you have valid issues to bring up. But who bothers to pay attention to someone who calls Democrats communists?

I grew up in Yakima in the 40's & 50's. In those days in Yakima, there were only two political parties; Republican and Communist. In that era of hyperbole, most could be forgiven their ignorant rantings. Today, we know better. Legitimate, loyal, Americans can have honest disagreements about policy without calling the opposition vile names.

Posted by: km on June 16, 2008 09:40 AM
19. Democrat=Communist? Hmmm...well at least Democrats haven't murdered people en mass. Not yet anyway. Well actually, some black people might disagree.

Posted by: NW Denizen on June 16, 2008 09:48 AM
20. Hey, just get the Department of Peace to the Supreme Court and the leftists there will surely find it in the Constitution.

Clearly, the liberal majorities on the Supreme Court and courts throughout America have now declared themselves the real legislative authority. Reid and Pelosi can just do the press conferences and block Republican appointments while the liberal court system makes all the changes they want, but don't have the guts to legislate themselves.

Posted by: Reality on June 16, 2008 10:03 AM
21. Today's Democrats are not communists. But they are Marxists. It's all part of the same underlying 19th century German philosophy. Today, we would not tolerate communism or the violent, genocidal actions of the Nazis. But the underlying collectivism remains part of today's left ideology. And that's the reason why it is problematic. The left firmly believes in a growing state, and big government solutions. And they use class warefare, i.e. Marxism, to get and keep their power.

If it were not for the many uneducated classes who would trade their freedom for a little of the bounty their party offers, then their would be no Democrat party at all. It's a daily smokescreen of lies, and deceit, and just enough nodding to the center to keep the ugly collectivist side hidden, and the politically correct, compassionate, victim peddling graciousness in a seemingly good light.

It's a precarious balance which depends on so many who allow themselves to be classed. The more people learn that their best ticket to success is their own individual effort, hard work. personal responsibility, and a smaller, less intrusive government, the more the Democrats lose.


Posted by: Jeff B. on June 16, 2008 10:19 AM
22. The liberals are happy to use force when it comes to taking our money in the form of taxes, but they decry the use of force internationally.

I'd say that non-violence starts at home.

Posted by: Bruce Guthrie on June 16, 2008 11:35 AM
23.
The real issues are Dollars and Sense. Is anyone taking a lead in the pocketbook issues?

Metro's answer to $4 gas? Make it worse by taxing us to death for unworkable "lite rail". And keep soaking us for the current $2 Billion and then call it a "deficit".

Posted by: John Bailo on June 16, 2008 06:11 PM
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