1. Hey Eric,

What is the maximum we can contribute to Rossi?

Posted by: pbj on May 19, 2008 10:19 PM

2. Hmmm. Reminds me. Probably time to make another small donation.

Posted by: RBW on May 19, 2008 10:22 PM

3. The rate of new donors increased in late April. Maybe it was tax rebates.

I am going to give when I get my stimulus check. Instead of stimulating the economy this year I'll be investing in a stimulus for the next 4 (or 8?)!

Posted by: AD on May 19, 2008 11:26 PM

4. All the more reason to perpetuate the false hope that your candidate has a chance in this ever-becoming 'one-Party-State'. Lo siento mucho, amigo! :)

Posted by: Duffman on May 20, 2008 05:28 AM

5. Wow. With all those new donors it almost seems like Rossi may have proposed actually elliminating a government department or agency. A quick scan of his website however still shows he seems to be okay with the current scope of government, not one program to be cut. Not even a proposal to bring the budget back to pre Gregoire levels!

Posted by: Lysander on May 20, 2008 05:33 AM

6. So Lysander, where is Gregoire's plan? Oh yeah four years as Governor and she has not come up with much of anything at all (except spending). Let's look at some of her plans.

1. Transportation - Multiple Blue Ribbon Committee's that come up with the same idea more study is needed.

2. Problems with early release felons - Oh that is right Gregoire suggested that they write book reports.

3. Budget cuts - (crickets chirping)

Rossi has at least listed a transportation plan. I do not agree with all of it, but it is much more than Gregoire has proposed.

Posted by: TrueSoldier on May 20, 2008 06:09 AM

7. That's great. Now if only he would actually start doing something productive with all that money to actually, you know, get elected.

Posted by: The Tim on May 20, 2008 06:14 AM

8. At least Dino has a plan for Transportation. It may not be perfect but it provides a starting point. His funding of transportation causes Democrats to claim they will have to raise Taxes or cut programs.
The State Auditor had provided Millions of dollars of savings within the current budget but Democrat leadership refused to look at the places they could save money by removing fat. They plan their budget and said sorry we do not have time to look at the Auditors Reports.
I bet Dino would put a higher priority on Cutting waste instead of finding ways of increase spending in new government programs. I would not expect to see a 33% increase in spending in 4 years as Governor. Increase yes but if the increase is for Fixing a broken transportation policy, Broken Education system, and Broken Legal system. I am all for fixing those things. Not new government handouts to special interests.

Posted by: David Anfinrud on May 20, 2008 06:19 AM

9. Lysander.
He's still pissed along with Bruce G. Because No-one is paying much attention to Ron Paul.

Sorry guys, but RP flame just didn't catch.

So get over it.

Like it or not (McCain is our guy)
I wish it wasn't, but it is.

Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on May 20, 2008 06:54 AM

10. Megadittoes, Medic.

Eric, it didn't sound like a huge number to me, but I don't watch the PDCs. Can you put the number in perspective?

Posted by: swatter on May 20, 2008 07:30 AM

11. Doesn't that figure out to be approx 1/2 of 1% of the population of our State? WOW!!! :)

Posted by: Duffman on May 20, 2008 07:49 AM

12. Duffman,

Just out of curiosity how many Donors does Gregoire have? I am seriously asking as I do not know. I thought it would be nice to see a comparison in number of donors not just total dollar amounts.

Posted by: TrueSoldier on May 20, 2008 07:56 AM

13. #12 TS: I actually do not know. I think to 'optimistically' hang one's hat on # of donors at this point is as unrealistic and illusionary as Sir Deano's transportation plans. :)

Posted by: Duffman on May 20, 2008 08:06 AM

14. Actually, I think number of donors is relevant to this (or any) race, particularly when those donors are individuals as opposed to corporations or PACs. Real people who give their hard-earned dollars to a candidate will not only vote for that candidate, they will talk about that candidate to their friends, family, co-workers, doctors, grocery story clerks, etc. While money isn't everything in a race, it is certainly an indicator of where a candidate's support lies -- and in the case of the current gubernatorial race it would appear that Rossi has an impressive grassroots base.

Posted by: Renee Radcliff Sinclair on May 20, 2008 08:28 AM

15. Truesoldier,

I believe you can get the Governors contributor numbers by taking the Unionized State employees plus the Tribal Council Membership and then add the number of Registered Government and Environmental Lobbyists in Olympia.

Posted by: Smokie on May 20, 2008 08:29 AM

16. It should get interesting as candidates start utilizing current technology as a great equalizer. It is good to see Rossi's campaign utilize technology to involve more people through small gifts vice having to hold fundraising events and reliance on the big bundlers. Obama and Ron Paul utilized this trend at the national level to great success, and it is good to also see it on the local level.

Now, Dino's campaign needs to start connecting the other on-line pieces if he wants to reach out. Obama's My.BarackObama.com website built on Facebook technology has been a great asset at the local levels for organizing ad hoc events, and Obama also has daily blogging happening on his website. Rossi has a Journal, but it isn't kept up, yet, on a daily basis. The reason may just be because the campaign is still early.

One of the items I am interested in, but I am not sure if I will have the time to do it, would be to review all the candidates and their opponents at the state level (e.g., state level races) to analyze their use of technology. If they want to reach the younger voter, they need to start going to the places (e.g., sites) the younger people hang out. On the Presidential level, the remaining candidates and several of the other contenders did have decent Internet operations. Obama and Ron Paul has had the best operations.

Posted by: tc on May 20, 2008 08:49 AM

17. pbj @1,

https://www.dinorossi.com/index.php?option=com_donate

Posted by: NW Denizen on May 20, 2008 09:13 AM

18. You guys talking about the fundraising remind me of myself, when I was all excited that Ron Paul was so successfully raising money.

Good luck with all that, though. After all, 'there's no place for a Ron Paul supporter in your tent'.

Posted by: Andrew Brown on May 20, 2008 09:45 AM

19. Let's put it this way: 33K donors is about 1/2 of the votes that Ruth Bennett got in the last election for Governor. How's that for associated relevancy. :)

Posted by: Duffman on May 20, 2008 09:51 AM

20. Duffman--

Yes, Washington leans Democrat. In 2004, it ranked 12th in terms of Kerry's percentage margin over Bush. But as recently as 2006, 8 of the 11 states that gave Kerry a higher percentage of the vote than Washington had Republican Governors:

California
Connecticut
Hawaii
Maryland
Massachusetts
New York
Rhode Island
Vermont

Republicans still hold five of these states.

Voters in states dominated by one party find that the quickest way to end the problems often associated with one party's total control is to elect a governor of the opposite party.

The same holds true in Republican states. Wyoming, Nebraska. Indiana, Idaho,Montana, North Dakota, Alaska, and up to 1984--Utah, often elect Democrat governors to check Republican dominance.

The same could work here to check Democrat dominance.

Posted by: besquared on May 20, 2008 11:39 AM

21. It certainly could...but it won't! :)

Posted by: Duffman on May 20, 2008 11:54 AM

22. Rossi has at least listed a transportation plan. I do not agree with all of it, but it is much more than Gregoire has proposed.

You mean his unfunded transportation plan that panders to the Seattle elitists while discriminating against the fine folks east of the mountains? You are kidding right? Bwa hah ha ha ha!!

Posted by: Mr. BoJangles on May 20, 2008 11:57 AM

23. I don't see that many names listed on Rossi's PDC reports. Could he be inflating his numbers, or counting people who contributed to his forward Washington "foundation", I mean camapign?

Posted by: scott on May 20, 2008 12:44 PM

24. According to the dino campaign envelope I just got - a shed load of Gregoire's mint is coming in from out of state.

Someone desperately wants to retain her- and it isn't washingtonians!!

Posted by: Andy on May 20, 2008 01:44 PM

25. Andrew Brown: Dino Rossi is not a fringe nutjob candidate with a fringe nutjob following, as evidenced by his winning the Gov. election twice.

While Ron Paul has proven to be relatively popular in an odd congressional district in Texas, he's never been able to go even remotely beyond it. Instead, he merely found the other people in the rest of the world that were as odd as the people in his district. Unfortunately for him, there are a small percentage in most of the rest of the country, mostly regulated to weirdos who spend all their time in internet message boards and chatrooms.

So, to avoid becoming one of them, I will go now.

Posted by: cliff on May 20, 2008 01:53 PM

26. smokie @ 15
Not all unionized state employees vote democrat.Some are in the union because they have to be to do a job they like.
Even though he gets a union paper that tells him what to do, my park ranger does what he thinks is right and votes that way too.
Just thought you'd like to know all state employees aren't sheep.

Posted by: smeethow on May 20, 2008 04:27 PM

27. No doubt Rossi can milk the millionaires in Bellevue and be the "Rich Guys Gregoire"...but is it really going to bring out the electorate?

Posted by: John Bailo on May 20, 2008 05:22 PM

28. True Soldier @ 6:

Just because I am upset that the GOP candidate can not find one program to cut does not mean that I support Gregoire. I do not support either for many of the same reasons.

Army Medic @ 9:

This thread is about the governors race not the presidents race. This anger has nothing to do with "the ron paul flame not catching". It has to do with the hypocracy of Rossi and many of his supporters. He decries the 33% increase in the spending and yet he does not propose decreasing it even back to the 2004 level let alone something smaller!

Oh and the RP flame has caught on. It will not likely get him elected but in the next couple years we will start seeing alot more RP republicans and less hypocrites like McCain and Rossi.

Posted by: Lysander on May 20, 2008 06:10 PM

29. Cliff @ 25:

What is odd about the people of RP district? From what I can tell they are just like people all over WA.

Posted by: Lysander on May 20, 2008 06:14 PM

30. And now thanks to Gregoire, you will all be paying Internet Sales tax to these theives starting in July 2008. No thanks Gregoire, it's time for change in this state!

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2003632351_webnettax23.html

Donate to Rossi!

Posted by: gs on May 20, 2008 06:37 PM

31. From what I can tell they are just like people all over WA.

Yes, your lack of perception is exactly why you are a Ron Paul supporter.

Posted by: Cliff on May 20, 2008 06:58 PM

32. Cliff:

So instead of answering a question to back up your assertion that an entire district in Texas is 'odd' you instead now trying to attack me?

What an odd way to support your theory. Care to try again? Why do you think Ron Pauls district is odd?

Posted by: Lysander on May 20, 2008 08:09 PM

33. PBJ asked: What is the maximum we can contribute to Rossi?

In a free society ... there is not maximum. In the McCains ideal world... something signifigantly less.

Posted by: Lysander on May 20, 2008 10:16 PM

34. Smeethow,

How does your Park Rangers Union Pac vote with it's funds? I think everyone realizes there are "individuals" in State Government Unions that are not politically aligned with the Governor, but the bottom line is that their dollars are still flowing to Gregoire if they like it or not.

Posted by: Smokie on May 21, 2008 07:15 AM

35. So, in THIS chapter of "Duffer Delusion," Duffster tells us: "I think to 'optimistically' hang one's hat on # of donors at this point is as unrealistic and illusionary as Sir Deano's[sic] transportation plans. :)"

How quickly he's "forgotten" all that buzz about the number of donors for Barry Hussein.

Tsk, tsk... I guess that, in addition to delusion, hypocrisy and a double standard must also be present to be a leftist.

Rossi will not get my vote. That said, anyone with an ounce of political pragmatism cannot reject, out of hand, something "wonderful" for Obama while denigrating that same factor for a Republican. Unless, of course, their political bigotry won't allow reality to enter in.

Posted by: Hinton on May 21, 2008 07:52 AM

36. gs @ 30 - Does Rossi have a plan to roll back that tax, or are you just blindly saying to vote for him because he didn't create it?

Posted by: Andrew Brown on May 21, 2008 08:06 AM

37. Andrew Brown,

Ron Paul eh? Explain a lot about you.

Posted by: pbj on May 21, 2008 03:23 PM

38. pbj,

If you had actually been reading in the thread the other day (telling, actually), you would have known that then instead of now. Too bad you chose to just troll instead.

Posted by: Andrew Brown on May 22, 2008 07:07 PM

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