May 19, 2008
Yep, the Campaign Trail is Tough

Barack Obama recently got stumped talking about Hanford:

The topic has been picked up locally and nationally.

On one hand it wouldn't be fair to hold a Presidential candidate coming off of months of a mind-numbing campaign schedule for knowing about every little bit piece of federal policy (that's why we have Congress).

BUT...

Patty Murray mentioned Hanford as one reason she endorsed Hillary Clinton and John McCain discussed the issue during his recent visit to the state.

Staffs with record-breaking influxes of cash should be better equipped to get the candidate briefed on the issues. More stumbles like that could become major unforced errors.

Posted by Eric Earling at May 19, 2008 07:06 PM | Email This
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1. It was an excellent and honest response from Sen Obama as it was so different than what one would expect from a typical politician. With honest straightforward answers like that, Sen Obama will only enhance his appeal to the greater American public. Sen McCain is in for a proverbial 'ass-kickin', the likes of which a Repupublican hasn't seen in a while...despite all of the Rovian input and effect. This is gonna be a Democrat landslide, folks. Sen McCain's entourage is 'melting' with the resignations of 'good 'ol boy' lobbyists...whatever shall he do. Haha! :)

Posted by: Duffman on May 19, 2008 06:59 PM
2. This is the major leagues now. I assume this was somewhere in Oregon where Obama is trolling for votes. I find the honesty refreshing but expect more from one who wants be my President. Any US Senator should be familiar with Hanford.

Posted by: ROCKETMAN on May 19, 2008 07:22 PM
3.
I guess beauty and speaking gaffes are in the eye of the beholder, but I saw absolutely nothing wrong with his response. Contrast that with McCain's attempts to speak on topics only to reveal he completely misunderstands the basic facts.

The Hanford Cleanup is a potent topic in Eastern Washington, but I'm betting 90% of the voting public couldn't find Hanford on a map, much less articulate the issues surround nuclear waste disposal there.

Posted by: Unkl Witz on May 19, 2008 07:22 PM
4. The question you have to ask yourself if you're Senator Fauxbama is.......in which one of the "57 states" is the Hanford facility located?

Obama is unprepared for the job he's seeking just like he was unprepared for his first morning in the senate.

His first morning in his D.C. Apartment, Mr. Fauxbama failed to recognize he would need a shower curtain when he took a shower in the morning. Like a kid you send off to summer camp,Obama found himself "soft and helpless. My first morning in Washington, I realized I'd forgotten to buy a shower curtain and had to scrunch up against the shower wall in order to avoid flooding the bathroom floor."

...and this mutt wants to handle the nuclear football?? God help us all.

Posted by: Rick D. on May 19, 2008 07:44 PM
5. Sen. Obama scares the bejeesus out of me! Here is this guy who if, with his lack of experience, was a white guy, wouldn't be given the time of day much less the nomination of a major political party. He has no, and I mean no, experience. He doesn't even know how many states there are in this country.

Why people support him is beyond me. Sen. Obama is truly an empty suit! Wait a minute... I just thought why he's so wildly popular among the young in this country. Those supporting him are products of our failed educational system. Now it makes sense. His supporters don't know what it takes to be president, why should we expect them to support someone who actually has those qualifications?

Posted by: p on May 19, 2008 07:53 PM
6. His response wasn't bad even though he exposed himself as being uninformed. In the upcoming campaign, time would be better spent at SP and by Republicans in general by dealing with his misstatements rather than this case, where he was honest about it.

As for his quote about "Lay off my wife" - If she makes misstatements or controversial statements, she is fair game.
Too much whining there - he can't do anything about it before the election.

Posted by: KS on May 19, 2008 08:19 PM
7. "Sen. Obama is truly an empty suit!" - This from someone who supports Dino Rossi for governor???? You gotta be kidding.

I agree with the earlier comments. Obama clearly knew it was a nuclear waste site, he just didn't know the details of how the clean-up was progressing. Or not, in this case. But, at least he was frank about it.

Posted by: Bill L on May 19, 2008 08:22 PM
8. #3 Witz: That's 90% on the west side of the Cascade Mts.Not on the East side.

Posted by: Yakima George on May 19, 2008 08:25 PM
9. As long as the subject of lobbyists has come up, isn't it ineresting how Obama covets the labor union endorsments? A lobbyists ultimate service is to provide votes and help win elections. And the "Big Labor"(brokers) are masters at it. As a 30+ year member of the IAM I saw this repeatedly played out. Barack is just more of the same. And this is coming from some one who was initially intrigued by him. If he was not black he would not be where he is at.

Posted by: Paul on May 19, 2008 08:59 PM
10. They are now offering tours of the Area B reactor....maybe he should sign on.

Posted by: Susu on May 19, 2008 09:06 PM
11. No knowing about Hanford means ...

B Obama has not read about the Manhatten Project.
B Obama doesn't know where most of the USA nuclear fuel was generated, probably won't be able to find Iran's sites either.
B Obama doesn't know one of the biggest enviro issues in the USA to leftist. LOL he clearly hasn't studied enviro literature.

Means he is G. Bush dumb, but he is still better at the English language.

Posted by: John McDonald on May 19, 2008 09:27 PM
12. I am no supporter of Sen. Obama by any means. But I think that was an admirable response. It would have been better, of course, if he'd known something about Hanford, but I'm not sure he necessarily should have been expected to know about it, and it's much better when a candidate doesn't know, to say, "I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with that, but I'll learn about it" than to try to b.s. your way through the situation. (I wish a few candidates I've worked for had done that.) So sorry, Eric, I'm not seeing your point here. I don't see how it qualifies as a "gaffe."

Posted by: stu on May 19, 2008 09:42 PM
13. What an IDIOT! He has never heard of Hanford? And this is the idiot we want int he White House???

Posted by: pbj on May 19, 2008 09:55 PM
14. stu -

I never said it was a "gaffe" and offered sympathetic comments on why him not knowing about it is forgivable. And yes, obviously his answer under the circumstances was solid.

The point is that he wasn't briefed on it when he probably should have been. Someone campaigning with a potential experience deficit and enough money to pay a huge staff shouldn't end up in that circumstance, and it could well bite much deeper if it happens on a bigger stage.

Posted by: Eric Earling on May 19, 2008 09:55 PM
15. All these liberal Obamaniacs here to defend him being "honest" are the same ones who chastise McCain for saying he wasn't an expert on Economics. Welcome DOUBLE STANDARD!

Obama is an empty suit. That's all there is too it.

Posted by: pbj on May 19, 2008 09:58 PM
16. So that is what a fancy Harvard education gets you these days? A slick style and absolutely no comprehension of a major facility involved in this nation's history. Christ.

Posted by: pbj on May 19, 2008 10:01 PM
17. I actually have to agree with Duffman's first sentence @ 1. I guess given long enough you'll find something to agree with everyone about.

Posted by: RBW on May 19, 2008 10:37 PM
18. PBJ ... you are SO right.

A gaffe is often a simple slip of the tongue, improper wording, doing something stupid out of anger, etc.

Obama had a long time to think about this ... he clearly had no IDEA about a MAJOR BIG TIME event in US History. I mean folks we are talking about what ended the biggest baddest war in the history of the WORLD! This is ignorance of a BIG TIME scale, of course most of his supporters are probably clueless too - so I doubt his poll numbers will reflect his ignorance of non-Hollywood history.

Karl Rove got G. Bush to take an interest in books with a reading contest, perhaps someone close to B. Obama could get him interested in learning with a History channel watching marathon disquised as a charity event.

Posted by: John McDonald on May 19, 2008 11:49 PM
19. Remember folks, Obama is running for president.

He is not a contestant on "Are you smarter than a 5th grader", in which case his statement would be funny.

There are no excuses for being stupid at this level, as we have found out for the past 8 years.

Posted by: John McDonald on May 19, 2008 11:54 PM
20. Other professions, less important than president, were saying sorry or I don't know does not cut it.

Surgery -- Hmmm, "I'm going to say something you rarely hear a surgeon say, I have no idea what you have but I think I'll just start cutting, but rest assured this practice will make me better in the future."

911 Operator --- "Hmmm, you live in XYZ place, I'm going to say something you rarely hear a 9-11 Operator say - never heard of it, can't help, sorry gotta go, but I promise I learn by my next shift."

747 Pilot --- "Hmmm, I going to say something you rarely hear a 747 pilot say, I haven't flow anything bigger than a Cessna. I promise I'll read the manual before we go up tomorrow"

Software Engineer on an interview --- "Hmmm, I going to say something you rarely hear a software engineer say, I've never heard about C++ before, but if you hire me I can learn it before I show up for work next week."

Posted by: John McDonald on May 20, 2008 12:19 AM
21. #20 Incredibly unfair analogies. Our POTUS will be surrounded by 'experts' who will continually brief him/her on the specifics. Also our POTUS is checked by Congress and our media. Would you not agree that one person cannot be totally 'aware' of all subjects and/or matters? So, your 'comparisons' are bogus....at best! :)

Posted by: Duffman on May 20, 2008 05:26 AM
22. "#20 Incredibly unfair analogies. Our POTUS will be surrounded by 'experts' who will continually brief him/her on the specifics. Also our POTUS is checked by Congress and our media. Would you not agree that one person cannot be totally 'aware' of all subjects and/or matters? So, your 'comparisons' are bogus....at best! :) "


Life is not fair Duffie. No one asked him to be able to draw the equation for nuclear fission, just be able to point to Hanford on a map and know what it is. Perhaps he and he wife spent so much time hating this country they forgot to read the history books.

Posted by: pbj on May 20, 2008 06:11 AM
23. This clearly demonstrates that the people supporting Obama, that excuse this ignorance, will support him no matter what. This is a cult. They are voting for a face. There is nothing behind the face.

Posted by: Gary on May 20, 2008 06:18 AM
24. But,but Duffie. All we hear about Obama, is that HE'S SOOOOOOOOOOOOO Smart!

HAHAHAHAHA.

Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on May 20, 2008 06:22 AM
25. Smart enough at least to not give a bogus answer or analysis of something he's not familarized himself with. I'll bet the next time he's asked a question about this subject that he is versed in the matter. No matter how 'smart' you are, there will be topics that you need guidance on - do you not agree. Look at our current President, he needs guidance on everything (Dick Cheney) and he's been in office +7 years.
I think it's 'refreshing' to hear a politician openly admit he's not well versed on the subject but will look into it...instead of the typical avoid/evade techniques. I believe most Americans would certainly agree that Sen Obama gave a brave and honest response to that question. You'all just need to 'pick' at ANYthing you can to try and discredit this fine American candidate...and our Country ain't buying your Rush Limbaugh BS -this time around folks! :)

Posted by: Duffman on May 20, 2008 06:46 AM
26. I understand Obama's appeal to the younger mid 20's and younger crowd, as I myself voted for Perot as an alternative in 1992.
What mystifies me though is how anyone over 35 can't see through this cheap shower curtain and realize there's no there.....There.

One word sums up Sen. Obama completely and succinctly - "GLIB"

Posted by: Rick D. on May 20, 2008 07:04 AM
27. He doesn't know what Hanford is. He doesn't know where Arkansas and Illinois are relative to Kentucky. He doesn't know how many states there are. To the cult members, this isn't ignorance, it's "brave and refreshing".

I had an apple and a bowl of cereal for breakfast. I dutifully reported this to Mr. Obama to know whether or not I meet his "eating too much" standard.


Posted by: Gary on May 20, 2008 07:17 AM
28. Me detects a 'fear' permeating the 'good 'ol boys' club of this venue...haha; things are gonna 'change' folks...get ready! :)

Posted by: Duffman on May 20, 2008 07:28 AM
29. Duffman, have you reported your food intake to the government today yet?

Posted by: Gary on May 20, 2008 07:31 AM
30. #29 Actually I wouldn't mind doin that Gary; don't you think we (as a country) have to do something about our obesity and gluttenous problem? What's the difference whether you report it to the Gov't or Weight-Watchers?

Posted by: Duffman on May 20, 2008 07:36 AM
31. #25 Did you hear about this?
Before a crowd in Portland, Oregon this past weekend The Messiah told the believers that.....

"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK."

Here is an open letter to this genius:

Hold on, Hussein. What am I missing here? On what particular calendar day did it suddenly become necessary for me to seek the approval of any Euro-weenie nation before I decide what truck I'm going to drive? And to what international body do I apply for permission to eat steak? Also ... is there some Internet site I need to visit to determine where I set my home thermostat on any given day?

Look, this is just too complicated for me. I just can't be expected to find my way through the maze of international relations for help in deciding what vehicle to buy, what to have for lunch, and how cold I can have my home on a hot summer day.

I'm sorry, Mr. Socialist, but you're just going to have to help out dumb Americans like me. We'll need some huge government agency - perhaps even a cabinet-level department - to poll the nations of the world on a continuing basis in order to set
the parameters for what we, as Americans, can and cannot do with our own money and our own lives inside our own homes.

Don't want the world pi**ed off at us now, do we?
Ken Howard

God save us if the simpletons vote this freak into office.

Posted by: Ken Howard on May 20, 2008 07:40 AM
32. Notice how smooth the Dufus morphed from a Clinton acolyte to a Bama minion?

Posted by: swatter on May 20, 2008 07:44 AM
33. My gosh, Duffman. I was *kidding*, and you go and take it seriously. Can't you take care of yourself? Evidently you can't, or you wouldn't be so willing to tell the government how much you eat. You don't know the difference between Wight Watchers and government? How "brave and refreshing".

See folks, I *told* you this is a cult.

Posted by: Gary on May 20, 2008 07:49 AM
34. So McCain said he doesn't know squat about the economy.


Obama doesn't know much about anything other than patting himself on the back.


Man we are either screwed or REALLY screwed.

Posted by: Andy on May 20, 2008 08:34 AM
35. Hi Duffman,

We've already had a 15W lightbulb in a 100W job for the past 8 years, swapping a 15W one for another 15W and expecting a brighter result is not change.

And yes my anologies were fair, a President should know history very WELL, like Doctors should know the body, or 9-11 the emergency system. Knowing about the Manhatten Project is 5th grade level history, it did end WWII afterall. As liberals love to say "Those who don't know history, and condemn to repeat it".

That said, I'm still voting for B.Obama because like McCain I'm for affirmative action, and Obama should get in simply because he is partially black, and since he is especially un-informed this only makes the case for affirmative action that much stronger. Really, I am voting Obama. If McCain was truly consistant, then he would spot Obama 5 points in the election because no partial black has been elected yet.

Posted by: John McDonald on May 20, 2008 09:14 AM
36. Haha, I agree with Andy @ 34. =P

Posted by: Cato on May 20, 2008 12:11 PM
37. Actually John our current President obviously doesn't know WWII very well, since he trusted "pooti poot" not to start the next great dictatorship in Russia. Remember, the President said he looked into his eyes and saw his soul and that assured him that Russia was on the right course. Of course Putin is now PM, which is arguably the new "General Secretary" of Russia.

Posted by: Cato on May 20, 2008 12:31 PM
38. Excellent point Cato...doubt that Pres Obama will be making calls by 'looking into someone's eyes' or by 'what his God tells him'. Could it be that he (Pres Obama...get used to it) might actually 'communicate' through understanding and compassion (within reason) and get something done in the country/world that translates to 'constructive'. I'm betting on it...so will our Country! :)

Posted by: Duffman on May 20, 2008 01:12 PM
39. Yes, hopefully when he communicates with the enemy, they will still give us permission to eat. If they refuse, he will take away our food.

Posted by: Gary on May 20, 2008 01:20 PM
40. #39 WADR Gary, I believe he will communicate with the 'entity' before they are the 'enemy' and thus possibly preventing them from being the enemy.
What a novel approach, don't you think? :)

Posted by: Duffman on May 20, 2008 01:27 PM
41. Sure, and if they tell us to eat less, Obama will comply. So, they won't be an "enemy", they will be our masters.

Posted by: Gary on May 20, 2008 01:36 PM
42. "#39 WADR Gary, I believe he will communicate with the 'entity' before they are the 'enemy' and thus possibly preventing them from being the enemy."

Not really a novel approach at all. Google Neville Chaimberlain and "Peace in our time".

Posted by: pbj on May 20, 2008 01:56 PM
43. The Duffinator gracefully trades a poor fitting pant suit with no experience, for an empty suit, a pissed off wife, no clue about much of anything, but one great speaker geographically impaired and minimal counting skills. boy, do you pick 'em.

Ill be hopping in my SUV, turning up my a/c, stopping at Burger King, with my 45ACP, and my lilly white rear end while flipping off those jealous whiny Europeans...Life is good.

Posted by: Hank on May 20, 2008 01:57 PM
44. Obama groveling Iran:

"Please don't build a nuke."

"No."

"Please don't bomb Israel."

"No."

"May we eat as much as we like please?"

"No."

Well, at least he tried. Carter talked for 444 days and didn't achieve squat.


Posted by: Gary on May 20, 2008 02:08 PM
45. In the 'eyes of the world', who do you honestly think garners more respect, former Pres Carter or current Pres Bush?
That's why I qualified my statement on Sen Obama with 'within reason'...I'm not advocating talk, talk, talk and bow down...I'm simply saying we should probably exercise all other options before 'bombing'. Doesn't that sound Faux-like 'fair and balanced'? :)

Posted by: Duffman on May 20, 2008 02:14 PM
46. Duffman, President Carter did *nothing* for the hostages. Why do you care what the rest of the world thinks of him, and not his failure for our hostages? What is more important to you, Duffman?
Why do you feel the need to be liked so much?

Obama said other countries are not okay with how much I eat, and therefore I must eat less. And you're okay with that? So that what... they'll *like* you?

Oh, and to answer your question, Bush garners more respect than Carter.

Posted by: Gary on May 20, 2008 02:20 PM
47. 'Oh, and to answer your question, Bush garners more respect than Carter.'

I seriously doubt that. I can tell you (from first-hand contact/knowledge) that I have a pretty good feel for the way folks think in Canada and they are perplexed and confounded at how we could have elected a President like George Bush, whereas they do respect and admire former President Carter - more as a human being than his tenure as President, tho.
I would suspect the majority of the rest of the world feels that way too.
But, whatever - no one is going to dictate what or how we eat...we are the breadbasket of the world for pete's sakes!

Posted by: Duffman on May 20, 2008 02:27 PM
48. "In the 'eyes of the world', who do you honestly think garners more respect, former Pres Carter or current Pres Bush?
That's why I qualified my statement on Sen Obama with 'within reason'...I'm not advocating talk, talk, talk and bow down...I'm simply saying we should probably exercise all other options before 'bombing'. Doesn't that sound Faux-like 'fair and balanced'? :)"

I don't know about that. I would say taking a President's embassy hostage for 444 days is a pretty obvious sign of disrespect.

Posted by: pbj on May 20, 2008 02:27 PM
49. Duffman, the rest of the world does not have the best interests of the U.S. in mind. Do you understand? If they like Carter, it's because of his constant bitching about his own country.

And if he was so great, why doesn't he run? Bush was re-elected. Carter was slaughtered. Who cares what some guy in Toronto thinks about it?

Whether someone respects you, or *likes* you, are two completely different things.

Duffman, as for dictating what we eat... *your* guy said we eat to much and he cared what other countries think about that. Don't you see that as a big problem with your guy? Again, who cares what other countries think about what I eat?

Obama does. And it's bizarre.

Posted by: Gary on May 20, 2008 02:39 PM
50. I don't know about that. I would say taking a President's embassy hostage for 444 days is a pretty obvious sign of disrespect.

Yeah, wonder how they got released so soon after the 1980 election? High respect for Reagan, or maybe some nifty promises of arms deals. I'm guessing the later.

Posted by: Cato on May 20, 2008 02:46 PM
51. pbj, exactly right. Iran took our embassy. Carter didn't do a thing, The USSR was on the March in Southeast Asia, Afghanistan, and Central America and (because) Carter did nothing! Other countries did not respect Carter. They treated him like the doormat that he was, and they *liked* him for it.

Posted by: Gary on May 20, 2008 02:48 PM
52. Not even bunny rabbits respect carter.

Posted by: Gary on May 20, 2008 02:52 PM
53. Not even bunny rabbits respect carter.

Bunny rabbits don't vote either. =P

Posted by: Cato on May 20, 2008 03:01 PM
54. And so we find the chameleon man, Dufus, is now a world traveller?

Posted by: swatter on May 20, 2008 03:14 PM
55. "Yeah, wonder how they got released so soon after the 1980 election? High respect for Reagan, or maybe some nifty promises of arms deals. I'm guessing the later."

Your guessing the "later"?

I think it was because the Iranians knew Reagan meant business. He was an asskicker and could care less if the Iranians "liked " him.

Posted by: pbj on May 20, 2008 04:04 PM
56. What is the difference between reporting your food consumption to the government vs weight watchers?? The first is an absolute "have-to" & the other is a "want-to". Such a HUGE difference. Try living in a communist-controlled country instead of America, to get real effect.

Posted by: Susu on May 20, 2008 05:10 PM
57. "Try living in a communist-controlled country instead of America, to get real effect."

actually, his preferred outcome would be to change the latter into the former by voting for Obama or Clinton.

Posted by: Rick D. on May 20, 2008 05:54 PM
58. Ahhh... another case of "DD," or "Duffer Delusion."

While rabbits don't vote in our elections, neither do Canadians. At the end of the day, Obama's ignorance (How could he NOT know about one of the largest nuclear waste sites in the world?) goes to yet another of the dozens of reasons why the only way this clown should ever get into the White House is with a tour group.

Carter was inarguably the worst President this nation has known. His incompetence and ineptness is only matched by the the political observations of our more leftist trolls... those who give a rat's patooty what the rest of the world thinks in particular.

We cannot run this country to suit the rest of the world, who, like many posters here, are inculcated with hatred for anything with an "R" after their name.

Carter was a buffoon and a disaster as a president by almost every available measure.

The issue was not Barry O's response. The issue is his ignorance, again put on display as it has been for many of his foreign policy blunders. That leftists are drawn to this lightweight is proof of their ability to be manipulated... as if it was a requirement to BE a leftist.

Posted by: Hinton on May 21, 2008 07:36 AM
59. Duffman, your man hung you out to dry. You defended his meeting with Iran w/o pre-conditions, and now this from ABC News:

"The Obama campaign is now offering a more nuanced approach that would not necessarily include a presidential meeting with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad -- and that stresses diplomatic work that would take place before any such meetings take place.:

Sounds exactly like we're doing now. Your man stabbed you in the back. He was for talking to Ahmadinejad before he was against it.

Posted by: Gary on May 21, 2008 09:19 AM
60. Duffer;

You libs always like to throw around this Dick Cheney tells Bush what to do line. What proof do you have? Do you just hate the man so much that you have to make up BS statements in an effort to make him look worse?

Posted by: REBEL on May 21, 2008 12:24 PM
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