May 05, 2008
Unintended Comedy

Danny Westneat offers an anecdote-rich view of trying to "go green" with the family automobile, confirming that whatever the merits of lessening dependence on oil, the current biofuel phenomenon appears headed toward its own entry in the unintended consequences hall of fame.

Posted by Eric Earling at May 05, 2008 07:55 AM | Email This
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1. Then Danny will love this one.

At the request of the Swiss government, an ethics panel has weighed in on the "dignity" of plants and opined that the arbitrary killing of flora is morally wrong. This is no hoax. The concept of what could be called "plant rights" is being seriously debated.

A few years ago the Swiss added to their national constitution a provision requiring "account to be taken of the dignity of creation when handling animals, plants and other organisms." No one knew exactly what it meant, so they asked the Swiss Federal Ethics Committee on Non-Human Biotechnology to figure it out. The resulting report, "The Dignity of Living Beings with Regard to Plants," is enough to short circuit the brain.

Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on May 5, 2008 07:51 AM
2. Westneat's column indeed provided a great laugh yesterday morning. It's not all that often that an old married couple can lie in bed Sunday morning and giggle over a newspaper column.

Reading that piece makes one wonder how many liberal failures have to occur before a person begins to get it.

This business with "biofuels" and "ethanol" is rapidly backfiring on the left who repeatedly doom themselves with feel-good ideas they haven't exactly thought through. To the left drilling in ANWAR is disastrous. But dedicating vast amounts of land that was used to grow food to producing inefficient fuel that can't even be distributed through pipelines makes sense to them.

Liberals are going to have to start defending their dumb ideas. Even better, they may have to actually begin to admit, as Westneat perhaps is, that they are wrong.

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on May 5, 2008 08:54 AM
3. Bill @#2
Liberals will never have to defend themselves as it is far easier for the majority of the people to "feel good" about somthing than to do the hard work of thinking. "A fool born ever minute" is proven over and over again especially in blue states.

Posted by: RJK on May 5, 2008 09:47 AM
4. So, if the liberal energy policy consisted of biodiesel, biodiesel and more biodiesel, where do they go from here?

Wind, tide and solar are good additives, but hardly the answer.

Where now, mon amis?

Posted by: swatter on May 5, 2008 09:54 AM
5. What now? Don't know, but let the free market figure it out.

Posted by: ronin on May 5, 2008 09:57 AM
6. Not funny when people start dying of starvation, though, is it? Here is one of the first real adverse consequences of Al Gore's bogus claims. These will be the first real victims of the left's advancement of this hoax on humanity.

Posted by: Reality on May 5, 2008 10:29 AM
7. Danny, meet Ross:

Democrats once accused Republicans of wanting old people and children to starve to death because the Republicans wanted to end the welfare state's food stamps program. So why are they silent on the government program that's actually causing starvation and food shortages? Oh. Right. The ethanol boondoggle is their idea.

Danny, meet Ron:

"In a quest to lower my impact on the environment, I calculated our [family's] carbon footprint if we cut our use of electricity and natural gas in half, switched our two cars for a single Toyota Prius and reduced our annual mileage by half, tripled our train travel, and never took an airplane. Furthermore, what if we became vegetarians, ate only local organic food in season, bought only second-hand clothes, furniture and appliances, never went to movies, bars or restaurants, and recycled or composted all our waste? Even then our combined carbon footprint would be 7.3 tons per year, but that would get us just below the world average of 4 tons per capita annually... The creators of Carbon Footprint claim that everyone in the world must eventually emit no more than 2 tons of carbon dioxide per year. When did Americans last emit so little carbon dioxide? Around 1870." --Ronald Bailey
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on May 5, 2008 10:33 AM
8. Well, if finding an alternative energy source to petroleum were easy it would have been done by now.

Not to worry about liberals having to defend themselves though; in 20 years the media and historians will have turned it around to evil profit-driven conservatives that tried to force biofuels on us.

Posted by: Frank Black on May 5, 2008 11:05 AM
9. This is a little off topic but kinda fits with Swatter's #4:
California's "green revolution" is an initiative that very recently shut down a nuke that was producing 600 megawatts of electricity. On the land around that very same nuke they installed a solar farm that produces (drum roll please): Four megawatts.

California is bragging that they are in the forefront of the "green revolution" but they are simply exporting their electricity generating to Washington (falling water) and Arizona where they generate using gas, oil or coal.

I am of the opinion that this "green revolution" or "saving the planet" is nothing more than a long series of three-card monties that cripple the poor . . . the people among us least able to cope with market disruptions.

Naturally, these three-card monites are being run by Democrats . . . "the party of the people." Ha, ha, ha, ha!!

Posted by: G Jiggy on May 5, 2008 11:11 AM
10. Rangnar...great comments...I did a little digging and found out that in 1850 to 1870 was the lowest years for Volcanic eruptions and there eminence of "natural" CO2 in recorded history...this was probably the main reason for the ending of the LITTLE ICE AGE that started in the 1400's and ended in 1850 / 1860.

This "Little Ice Age" is estimated to have been the cause of death for 2/3 people worldwide during this time.

The "Little Ice Age" that preceded that one was in 10,000 BC...it killed off 65% of all life on earth...and the human population has been estimated to fallen to between 50,000 to 75,000 persons worldwide!

In recorded history every time there has be a "warm" period...the earth has exploded with Life, Bananas grew in the highest of latitudes and it was like living in Florida every where. Even the hottest of places would be like Phoenix in summer. With the Ice Capes melted, the water supply goes up...that is how Ying & Yang works.

Hey...Al Bore...I think I would vote for Global Warming over another Ice Age!!!

Posted by: Pacific Grove Phlash on May 5, 2008 11:16 AM
11. The Earth is Hot and Flat Society is growing increasingly hysterical and it is causing me to sweat! In the last few months, I have heard suggestions from Seattle's Greenest, that those skeptical of this spiritual crisis are deniers, compared to those who denied the Holocaust and the best way to serve the planet would be to have one less kid, that mankind is "a Virus" and human beings are the "AIDS of the Earth." Even Santa and all of his Elves are doomed if we do not use florescent lighting.

The weather is just like Hillary Clintons explanation of her war vote, we just do not know. Were hit or miss on next Tuesday's weather much less the year 2058?

Relax; we will replace oil when we need too. American ingenuity will kick in and the next great fortune will be made. It is not pretty but historically accurate.

We just need to run out of oil first and that is why I drive an SUV, so we can run out sooner. I consider myself to be in the vanguard of the environmental movement and I think that people that insist on driving hybrids are prolonging our dilemma, and that is selfish. Come on, don't you care for Mother Earth.

Posted by: Dan the Man on May 5, 2008 11:42 AM
12. You miss the point.

It is not about what fuel a car burns, it is about removing cars completely.

The worker drones must be herded into buses and trains.

Posted by: Vince on May 5, 2008 12:44 PM
13. I read an interview recently with a scientist in Alaska who explained how any biodegradable waste can be turned into oil with enough pressure and heat, but that it is far too expensive and therefore not viable. However, he has come up with a process for this conversion using an enzyme, and he states it is successful. Garbage to oil. Unfortunately, none of the press is picking it up, and essentially no one believes him. So he is now building his own plant as a start up, just to prove it can be done, and economically. Don't know how reliable the story or he is, but if true, we could solve our waste and oil problem at the same time.

Posted by: katomar on May 5, 2008 01:37 PM
14. The recent mania for corn ethanol has one primary initiator and driver:
The political pandering every 4 years to the Iowa caucuses.

Plus while there is some logical evidence that so far the spike in food prices is not due PRIMARILY to the diversion of productive farmland in the US to ethanol and biodiesel, the huge impact that it WILL have if we do not quickly change course is looming right in front of us:
The current illogical government mandates for a huge additional increase in the amount of ethanol beyond what is currently being produced. If those mandates are not recinded, then you bet it will cause further major upward pressure on world-wide food prices; very possibly to the point of serious crises in much of the 3rd world.

And Bill Crutchon is right on when in #2 he sez:
''To the left drilling in ANWAR is disastrous. But dedicating vast amounts of land that was used to grow food to producing inefficient fuel ...... makes sense to them.''

This is a case where VP Cheney is exactly right (but no matter how overwhelming the facts, I expect the left will never be able to admit that Dick Cheney is right about anything):
ANWR totals about 20,000,000 acres.
Even large-scale oil exploration and production in ANWR using modern drilling methods would disturb perhaps ~2,000 acres. That's only ONE PART in 10,000; i.e.: The ''sky will fall'' claims of the left that opening ANWR to oil production would destroy it is patently absurd on its face.

The question is not whether or not we are ever going to drill in ANWR:
OF COURSE we are going to do it eventually; i.e.:
As world-wide oil consumption leaps in the next few decades due to India, China, etcetera, demand will eventually outstrip maximum supply efforts. And think of all the critical products petroleum gives us besides transport fuel:
Fertilizer (without which the green ag revolution dies), lubricants, plastics, and a long list of etcetera.

The real question on ANWR is not IF we drill, but rather:
Are we going to develop the ANWR petroleum resource on a careful, measured, and deliberate schedule that will minimize disturbance to that part of Alaska; or are we going to wait until the situation is truly desperate, with the result that it will have to be done on an all-out panic basis; with the resulting higher risk of damage.

Posted by: Methow Ken on May 5, 2008 01:47 PM
15. katomar, I read something similar a few weeks ago about how GM was actually investing in a company with what I believe was a similar process, and that in a few years, they were forecasting that it would quite cost effective. It might be the same guy. I don't have a link, but Google 'GM garbage oil' and it's one of the top links.

There is also a bunch of folks at OSU who've come up with a way to get biodiesel from algae. I just Googled it... the figures they give is that soybeans produce 48 gallons of biodiesel per acre. Algae can currently produce 819 gallons/acre, and they think they might get it up to 5,000 gallons/acre.

Posted by: Mike H on May 5, 2008 02:03 PM
16. Mike H: And can you imagine what would happen to OPEC if this becomes viable? The bottom would drop out immediately! If this is indeed an ongoing project and looks promising, maybe it needs to be publicized a little more aggressively.

Posted by: katomar on May 5, 2008 03:06 PM
17. Some of us can remember a silly slogan from 35yrs ago or so: Split wood not atoms. Gee, BioDiesel- no war required sounds pretty similar, just with a shorter shelf life. If the U.S. had followed through with a comprehensive nuke program we would not now be in this energy vise, with OPEC and Al Gore-et al slowly crimping our economy and lifesyles. If the French, who have no crude reserves, can create 90% of their power usage with nuclear(the other 10% comes from Oil for Food, I believe) we can do the same. And they are using our technology!
ANWR should now be pumping to help augment our domestic offshore and interior crude. To those that complain about the very remote chance of damage to the "pristine" Reserve I would argue that 40 year old technology has removed oil from the North Slope with very well documented success. There are now funds, payed by BP etc. in escrow to completely restore Prudhoe when operations are concluded. The same will be true with ANWR. And any other exractions in the Great State of Alaska

Posted by: paul on May 5, 2008 03:47 PM
18. There's alot of potential in cellulosic ethanol, and it's been around for a while, but corn has received all of the pub (mostly for its negative effects). Switchgrass and wood by-products are other intriguing possibilities. It's coming and it's when, not if.

Posted by: Palouse on May 5, 2008 03:50 PM
19. #15 & #18: The company is Coskata...GM is a partner. They are building a plant that will produce "cellulosic" ethanol -- no corn. They say they can do it at $1.00 a gallon. I believe them: Coskata building plant near Pittsburgh...

Posted by: John Bailo on May 5, 2008 04:22 PM
20. Jiggy@9
Did you see the guy on the tube yesterday with his solar powered house? So many panels he practically keeps his house in the shade. Oh but it's so good, he sells power back to Tacoma.
I was thinking he'd wet his pants if the neighborhood kids played a little baseball in the street....

Posted by: PC on May 5, 2008 04:24 PM
21. I'm just a wee bit suspicious when I hear about ethanol being produced from "non-food" sources.

If they can figure out a way to utilize waste to produce "cellulosic" ethanol more power to them. I think the key question is whether or not land that could better be served by growing food would be used to provide their "woody biomass".

Posted by: Bill Cruchon on May 5, 2008 05:23 PM
22. Al Gore give your trophy's back and back to the drawing board!

Posted by: GS on May 5, 2008 06:53 PM
23. Always fun to read when the left bumps in to reality. It reminds of the recent articles noting that it hasn't been warming since 2001.

All of the eco-fantasy provides a lot of righteousness for leftist knobs until it runs up against truth. And then the carbon offset scams fold, windmills turn out to be expensively subsidized, biofuel starves people and is more expensive than gas, and the Sun is in a minimum and the earth is actually getting colder, with no regard at all for Al Gore and his trumped up lies attempting to advance Marxism.

Comedy indeed.

Posted by: Jeff B. on May 5, 2008 07:26 PM
24. #21: "I think the key question is whether or not land that could better be served by growing food"

Point well taken -- however, only 1/6th of the arable land in the US is currently under cultivation (do to government policies).

Second, corn is very land and energy intensive, cellulosic means...well, yard waste...and other "biowaste", switchgrass, which can grow very densely in a smaller area.

Posted by: John Bailo on May 5, 2008 09:44 PM
25. What about the fully intended consequences of prohibiting drilling for oil in ANWR and elsewhere by that twit, Maria Cantwell? It should be no suprise to anyone that gas is approaching $4 a gallon and diesel a buck or so more.

Either Cantwell thinks we can't remember that far back or that we can't make this simple logical connection: if you don't find new sources of oil eventually the price will rise to meet demand.

I don't know whether Cantwell is trying to cover her ass by launching a diversionary investigation into high gas prices or whether she is a gross economic ignoramous.

Posted by: Bill K. on May 6, 2008 12:06 AM
26. We also need open up the continental shelf to drilling as well, if California and Florida object, nationalize the fields.

Posted by: frumpy on May 6, 2008 08:21 AM
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