April 28, 2008
Move all the bums to Magnolia

So you want to get a community organized and outraged city officials? Try putting a homeless encampment in their neighborhood.

The residents of Seattle's "affluent Magnolia neighborhood" are experiencing the phenomenon first-hand. The City of Seattle and homeless advocates - a misleading term if there ever was one - have the bright idea for Fort Lawton in Discovery Park by transforming the century-old former Army base into homeless shelters and low-income housing.

For some reason Magnolia residents are less than thrilled at the prospect.

The Seattle Times had a front-page story about the issue in their Saturday edition.

Just a hunch but one can guess that most Sound Politics readers' first natural inclination at this point is probably to sympathize with the local homeowners.

Homeless encampments drive down property values. Period. It's a fact in the real estate industry. Then there's the issue of whether they bring about an increase crime. The ongoing debate around where to locate "Tent City", which has plopped itself down in several Eastside cities like a family's unwanted drunken uncle, has more than fleshed out the pros and cons of homeless encampments.

This post isn't really even about the efficacy of these camps although you can debate that issue if you must.

The most important factor in this particular debate is that of hypocrisy.

As coincidence would have it this writer happened to be in Magnolia on Saturday; enjoying the second most beautiful day of the year to date with a reporter buddy who had never visited the neighborhood before.

The homes are stunning. The views along Magnolia Boulevard are gorgeous. Discovery Park is a gem with its unique ecology and geological formations that have been left relatively undisturbed for decades.

Driving past well manicured lawns and homes overlooking Elliot Bay and the Olympics a striking observation was quickly made. Magnolia is filled chock-a-block with a bunch of rich, white liberals.

There were Barack Obama '08 bumper-stickers everywhere and yard signs in heavy numbers. In fact after driving almost sixty minutes in the neighborhood we couldn't find a single piece of campaign propaganda for either Hillary Clinton or John McCain - or Ron Paul for that matter...

Here's another observation. After spending almost the entire day in rich, white, exclusive Magnolia this writer didn't see a single black person. Hell, for that matter, we only saw three minorities in total.

As a native to the area this is no surprise. Seattle has been getting whiter and whiter because of the "white flight" phenomenon of liberals fleeing here from more racially diverse cities.

It just sticks in your craw to see so much support for America's first credible black presidential candidate from a neighborhood of people who have intentionally chosen to wall themselves behind luxury in order to live apart from any person who remotely has the same skin color as their presidential candidate of choice.

You just can't have too much sympathy for these effete snobs.

These are the people that vote for and donate money to the local crop of bright-boy politicians who think that allowing drug dealers and bums (let's not use the misleading term homeless) to run rampant all over the rest of Seattle and the Puget Sound region.

Having populations of indigent panhandlers, alkies and stumblebums sleeping in front of doorways in Pioneer Square, Capitol Hill or the U-District and camped out in grotty little neighborhoods like Bothell or Woodinville is perfectly peachy. Just so long as the consequences of Magnolia's electoral decisions never encroaches on their posh, secluded oasis.

Here's a better idea than the one currently being proposed by the City of Seattle and "homeless advocates".

Instead of providing housing for around 100 less fortunate souls, why not move all the homeless in Seattle (and the entire region) to Magnolia?

Discovery Park has a large enough footprint to create a Hooverville of epic proportions. There's plenty of open space, access to the beach to collect driftwood or clams, water and utilities. Since so many Magnolia residents are no doubt guilty over how rich and white they are, it would be a thrilling opportunity to promote social justice and racial equality by having a shantytown smack dab alongside their exclusive Ozzie and Harriet homes.

Now that's change you can believe in.

Posted by DonWard at April 28, 2008 03:12 PM | Email This
Comments
1. Move all of the Bums to Magnolia? I thought Larry Phillips already lives there?

Posted by: Smokie on April 28, 2008 03:40 PM
2. Dang it. I'm torn by this one.

I Like Discovery Park. I think it's one of the undiscovered jewels in the city.

On the other hand, Magnolia property values plummeting means that Queen Anne property values will rise. Hmmm.

And then there's the value of seeing so many latte-liberals hoist on their own petard.

Guess I'll have to mull this one over :)

Posted by: Steve in Queen Anne on April 28, 2008 03:55 PM
3. This is just delicious! I can't wait to read the rest of the comments.

Posted by: David Onkels on April 28, 2008 04:02 PM
4. Yeah, what happens with these shelters is this:

They'll build the shelter, and some folks will live there and turn out okay.

The unintended consequence (thanks to this city's refusal to enforce its own laws) will be a bunch of "squatters" moving in right next door in the woods. They'll have tents up quicker than you can say Jack Robinson. That's where the drugs and the crime will mainly come from.

I don't jog the greenbelts on either slope of QA at dusk or at night for precisely that reason - they're packed full of bums. That's what Magnolia has in store for itself.

Posted by: Steve in Queen Anne on April 28, 2008 04:09 PM
5. Try down town.... works for me!

Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on April 28, 2008 05:03 PM
6. Why not reserve the low income housing in Ft. Lawton for low income veterans? These would be the same people that were our good neighbors during the Fort's 100+ year history. In effect, such would simply be maintaining the status quo, and as such, nobody should complain. I suspect the most diffucult part of this solution would be finding veterans who want to live in Seattle.

Posted by: Tim on April 28, 2008 06:30 PM
7. I think Kramer and Newman from 'Seinfeld' had the best idea on what to do with the homeless. Now, if only the city will invest in some Rickshaws to get this idea out of the developmental stage. Come to think of it, our illustrious Mayor could use some exercise as well.

Posted by: Rick D. on April 28, 2008 07:00 PM
8. Me thinks Ward sounds a bit jealous of Magnolia. God forbid people mow or even water their lawns in Seattle.

Plus signs don't tell the true story. It's still a GOP stronghold in a sea of liberal flotsam and jetsam. Typical of us evil rednecks in Magnolia.

Anyone who thinks that Seattle and “the people” are meting out overdue punishment on Magnolia establishing a homeless base here is ignorant of the McKinney Act and should do their homework before they “report.”

Plenty of “black” people live in Magnolia. They just aren’t loitering on the streets.

“Rich, white, exclusive Magnolia.” Please don’t tell one of Seattle’s finest citizens and Magnolia resident Carver Gayton that.

It's not a bad neighborhood even though Larry Phillips and Bobbe Bridge live here.

Posted by: Mel on April 28, 2008 07:32 PM
9. I don't know Mel, with Phillips and Bridges living in the neighborhood you have to watch your wallet and be very careful crossing the street (when bobbie is behind the wheel).

Posted by: Smokie on April 28, 2008 07:55 PM
10. I appreciate the "up yours, faux liberal" tone of this article, but in all seriousness mixed-income neighborhoods are far more successful at getting people out of poverty than having all homeless services concentrated into one area (Pioneer Square) or establishing all-poor housing projects (Yesler Terrace). Having neighbors that respect themselves and their property sets a good example and establishes social pressure to shape up.

Of course, not everyone will shape up, just like there's always "that house" in the neighborhood, but that's life. Someone's always on the way down.

The real valid concern here is that SPD is absurdly understaffed for a city Seattle's size and in any case appears to be uninterested in anything but homicide and "revenue enhancement" ticketing. There's no evidence they will take legitimate nuisance and property crimes seriously in the area around Fort Lawton when they don't take them seriously anywhere else. This bodes ill for any hope of maintaining the necessary social standards for mixed-income development to have its desired effect.

Posted by: bad idea on April 28, 2008 08:22 PM
11. I enjoy lurking on soundpolitics, and as a loyal Republican (a lonely place to be, these days) I appreciate much of what's posted. Despite the politics, however, it's important to have one's facts straight. From 1945 until the 1960s I grew up overlooking the Ship Canal and Ballard from the northeast hill of Magnolia, about a mile from Fort Lawton. I went to Lawton School and Catherine Blaine Jr. High. From our front window I watched the Sagstad mill in Ballard burn and the Seattle Cedar site burn. As a young teen I rode my bicycle down to the Village and up through Carlton Park. Later, I necked with girlfriends in the pull-out on Magnolia Boulevard, overlooking downtown Seattle. I even tried drag racing on the quarter-mile marked off on Magnolia Boulevard. At age 19 I drank beer illegally at Delano's tavern and restaurant a block from east gate of Fort Lawton.

In the early 1950s, after Korea, I watched military convoys of returning servicemen streaming along Government Way to Fort Lawton. Fort Lawton was an ARMY POST, not a Navy base. The Navy was at Pier 91 (one of my high school chums' father was the C.O. at Pier 91). The Coast Guard was down on the Lake Washington Ship Canal, a short distance east of the Ballard Locks.

Passion is wonderful, but a bad fact, even one as minor as confusing an Army post with a Navy base, can destroy passion's effect. If a fact as small as this can be wrong, what about the larger issues?

DW - Derp. Error corrected Bob. Dumb of me because, after all, they even had a POW camp at Lawton. Teaches me for watching that Eastwood movie about the Navy/Marines while posting...

Posted by: bob in bellevue on April 28, 2008 09:49 PM
12. Bobbie Bridge shouldn't have a problem with a few more scofflaw drunks moving in. Maybe they'll set up camp in her back yard. Party hearty, your "honor"!

Posted by: Saltherring on April 29, 2008 07:00 AM
13. Instead of an encampment, given the big and magnificent homes of the Magnolia rich, there should be plenty of room in each of their homes to offer a room or two to a homeless person or family. Where is the neighborly spirit? You have more house than you need. Come on Magnolia, open your own doors of your magnificent homes.

Posted by: tc on April 29, 2008 07:42 AM
14.
In an age when incarceration rates (for blacks) are at an all time high...one has to wonder why these bums and drug dealers are allowed on the streets.

Haven't we been building prisons?

Or is it that Mayor Nickles is reluctant to prosecute anyone for "drug crimes" (except if they are walking down Othello at 2 in the morning).

Posted by: John Bailo on April 29, 2008 08:46 AM
15. John@14,

Have a look at this news story from earlier this year.

Were the admitted drug users cited for possession of a controlled substance or drug paraphernalia? Nope, not in Mayor Nickels' town.

Posted by: Smoley on April 29, 2008 11:49 AM
16. 15. And if Rick Steve's and the ACLU have their way it will no longer be an issue.

http://www.marijuanaconversation.org/

Posted by: NW Denizen on April 29, 2008 01:12 PM
17. Limousine liberals don't want the unwashed masses moving into THEIR neighborhood. So much for liberals caring about the downtrodden!

Posted by: pbj on April 29, 2008 03:43 PM
18. My mom live right next to discovery park. She owns a home daycare and she enjoys being able to take the kids there for a walk during the days. If this homeless thing goes on I won't let her walk in there period. Theres just going to be a whole bunch of bums drinking in the park and getting high. What does that bring, a bunch of horney old men with a better chance of getting away with stuff because there hidden in the woods.
Cops don't patrol discovery park, they drive through the parking lots. So that nice walk everyone used to enjoy is out of the question. I know i'm making homeless people sound horrible, but when it comes to my mom anything goes. If in Magnolia don't put it next to a huge park! Put it in that Old aboandoned school on 28th. No Parks, No place to hide.
Don Ward quit hating on MAG. If they were going to build right were your mom lived then youd be the same way. Unless you don't care about your mom.

Posted by: cef on April 29, 2008 05:37 PM
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