One of my favorite websites to visit on a quarterly basis is the webcomic XKCD created by former NASA contractor Randall Munroe. Much of the content is focused around "geek humor" which helps this word person understand and cope with all the numbers people he has to hang around.
Then there are the contributions which have been penned specifically with me in mind. This is one of them...
Every contributor here at Sound Politics has that one (or more than one) commenter that drives us up the wall. No doubt you readers enjoy the written repartee that passes as reasoned debate down in our threads.
I'll leave it to you readers to decide which of the SP regulars best fits the two blogging profiles in the XKCD webcomic.
Bonus: Here is another webcomic which aptly describes the mentality of some of our hardcore blogging fans.
Posted by DonWard at April 25, 2008 12:17 PM | Email ThisAM/V: you're in charge...please do your best to defend Hillary from any and all attacks
Take care ya'all ! :)
Posted by: Duffman on April 25, 2008 02:42 PMAnd I know that Stefan S likes it, too!
Posted by: Bruce Guthrie on April 25, 2008 03:02 PMSay hello to the staff at Del Boca Vista Duffer:)
Unkl Witz
tc
WVH - racist
David Matthews - anti humanist loony
1. First laughter is the gift of the gods and humor is a very good thing.
2.Interesting moniker for some one who starts their post with:
I don't like:
Unkl Witz
tc
WVH - racist
David Matthews - anti humanist loony
Could it be that you don't like:
Unkl - because he challenges people on their assumptions?
tc - because he supports Senator Obama's candidacy for president?
me - because I point out the hypocrisy and tactics of those who are shocked, I tell you shocked by Rev. Wright, but think their personal bigots should get a pass?
By the way, calling opponents loons and linking them with those people that many find objectionable is a standard Karl Rove tactic. I believe in this arena, Jeff B. regularly attempts to link me with David Mathews. I am surprised that tc and Unk have also earned the wrath of the shruggies. This is the Karl Rove playbook which has been copied by his acolytes:
".... As James Moore documents in his political biography of Rove, Bush's Brain, politicians who faced Rove in election contests had recurrent problems.
One was rumor campaigns questioning their sexual orientation, adulterous liaisons and similar tawdry matters. Prime examples of this were the rumor campaign launched against Texas Governor Anne Richards suggesting she was a lesbian, and even more pointedly, the curious telephone push-polling during the decisive 2000 Republican primary in South Carolina, suggesting that John McCain had fathered a child in an adulterous relationship with a black woman (McCain and his wife have an adopted daughter from South Asia, whose photograph with her father was circulated in connection with these insinuations).
Second, Rove's opponents would regularly find that they had suddenly become the target of a criminal investigation, and details concerning the investigation would be aggressively fanned to the press. Rove mastered this technique in a contest for the Texas Agriculture Commissioner's post that he managed for now-Governor Rick Perry.
Third, and probably the most characteristic of the Rovian tools--"swiftboating." Rove would cultivate groups which were arguably distant from the campaign proper which would run extremely well funded vitriolic ad hominem attacks on the adversary. The most vivid display of the technique, and indeed the case that produced a new verb for the English language, was the use of military veterans to attack John Kerry over his military record in Vietnam....
Rove has been accused by republican lawyer Jill Simpson in the Siegelman case and here are his tactics:
"Note Rove's thematic line: Simpson is "a complete lunatic... a loon." It apparently gets worse than this. In the original interview, as reported in at-Largely, Rove apparently made scurrilous insinuations about Simpson's family life and her relationship with her children. GQ made the wise decision to strike them from the published text."
http://harpers.org/archive/2008/04/hbc-90002812
3. Here is the defintion of racism:
"rac·ism -noun 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
[Origin: 1865-70; Freedomlover,
1. First laughter is the gift of the gods and humor is a very good thing.
2.Interesting moniker for some one who starts their post with:
I don't like:
Unkl Witz
tc
WVH - racist
David Matthews - anti humanist loony
Could it be that you don't like:
Unkl - because he challenges people on their assumptions?
tc - because he supports Senator Obama's candidacy for president?
me - because I point out the hypocrisy and tactics of those who are shocked, I tell you shocked by Rev. Wright, but think their personal bigots should get a pass?
By the way, calling opponents loons and linking them with those people that many find objectionable is a standard Karl Rove tactic. I believe in this arena, Jeff B. regularly attempts to link me with David Mathews. I am surprised that tc and Unk have also earned the wrath of the shruggies. This is the Karl Rove playbook which has been copied by his acolytes:
".... As James Moore documents in his political biography of Rove, Bush's Brain, politicians who faced Rove in election contests had recurrent problems.
One was rumor campaigns questioning their sexual orientation, adulterous liaisons and similar tawdry matters. Prime examples of this were the rumor campaign launched against Texas Governor Anne Richards suggesting she was a lesbian, and even more pointedly, the curious telephone push-polling during the decisive 2000 Republican primary in South Carolina, suggesting that John McCain had fathered a child in an adulterous relationship with a black woman (McCain and his wife have an adopted daughter from South Asia, whose photograph with her father was circulated in connection with these insinuations).
Second, Rove's opponents would regularly find that they had suddenly become the target of a criminal investigation, and details concerning the investigation would be aggressively fanned to the press. Rove mastered this technique in a contest for the Texas Agriculture Commissioner's post that he managed for now-Governor Rick Perry.
Third, and probably the most characteristic of the Rovian tools--"swiftboating." Rove would cultivate groups which were arguably distant from the campaign proper which would run extremely well funded vitriolic ad hominem attacks on the adversary. The most vivid display of the technique, and indeed the case that produced a new verb for the English language, was the use of military veterans to attack John Kerry over his military record in Vietnam....
Rove has been accused by republican lawyer Jill Simpson in the Siegelman case and here are his tactics:
"Note Rove's thematic line: Simpson is "a complete lunatic... a loon." It apparently gets worse than this. In the original interview, as reported in at-Largely, Rove apparently made scurrilous insinuations about Simpson's family life and her relationship with her children. GQ made the wise decision to strike them from the published text."
http://harpers.org/archive/2008/04/hbc-90002812
3. Here is the defintion of racism:
"rac·ism -noun 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
[Origin: 1865-70;
I am interested in your reasons for thinking I fit that definition.
4. No wonder you sought to introduce hate (I don't like) into Ward's laughfest. This is what Ms. Rand, that very, very, very interesting lady said about humor:
Humor is not an unconditional virtue; its moral character depends on its object. To laugh at the contemptible, is a virtue; to laugh at the good, is a hideous vice. Too often, humor is used as the camouflage of moral cowardice.
"Bootleg Romanticism," The Romantic Manifesto, 133.
That is almost as humorless as what she said about republicans:
Rand the Living
Chris Matthew Sciabarra | November 1995 Print Edition
Letters of Ayn Rand, edited by Michael S. Berliner, New York: Penguin Dutton, 1995, 681 pages
"On November 7, 1943, Ayn Rand issued a prophetic warning to Ruth Alexander, a prominent conservative writer and lecturer: "God save capitalism from capitalism's defenders! Nobody can defeat us nowexcept the Republicans." For Rand, the Republican Party had exhibited an awful penchant for political compromise: It had never seriously challenged the "collectivist premises" of the New Deal, nor had it fundamentally opposed the country's march toward statism. Ultimately, Rand thought, the GOP merely sought to slow the march toward collectivism, rather than to reverse its direction. For Rand, its betrayal of principle engendered the rise of the theocratic right, a move ment that, in Rand's view, undermined the rational and moral case for capitalism."
Enjoy Ward's laughfest.
WVH: Uh, did you mean to repeat your whole spheal from the beginning right after staement #3?
I can't say I don't like you because I don't know you. But I do know your tactics and I don't like them.
Anybody who disagrees with your political opinion?
You label them a thug.
Anybody who disagrees with your political opinion?
You label them a racist.
And yet you wonder why some people don't like you.
In short, if you spent less time calling everybody else names - while at the same time castigating them for what? Name calling. - and more time, well, doing things other than posting on this blog, I suspect people wouldn't dislike you and your tactics.
Personally, I tend to ignore your sanctimonious diatribes.
Now, get outside and enjoy the weekend.
Posted by: jimg on April 26, 2008 09:52 AMC'mon girl. Who you thank you foolin any how? You hate whitey, it's obvious. A deep seated, boiling rage that you keep under a lid to try to fool people. It's me honey. Just be honest about who you are girlfriend. If the neocons don't like it too bad.
Posted by: Jeremiah on April 26, 2008 10:20 AM1. Army Girl, sorry about the cut & paste lapse. A sunny day in Seattle went to my head.
2. Jimg said this:
"15. WVH,
I can't say I don't like you because I don't know you. But I do know your tactics and I don't like them.
Anybody who disagrees with your political opinion?
You label them a thug.
Anybody who disagrees with your political opinion?
You label them a racist.
And yet you wonder why some people don't like you."
Now this is what got jimg's short's in a twit. I might add that his outrage is out of Karl Rove 101:
"Posted by WVH at April 9, 2008 10:13 AM
37. If we are the two votes that put Governor Gregoire over the top and keep a group of racist thugs out of state government. - WVH
You should be banned from this site for making such an outrageous statement.
Posted by jimg at April 9, 2008 10:20 AM"
a. First, I have never labeled ALL people racists and thugs and you are aware of that fact. I have reserved that very specific label for Rickie. Primarily, because out of Karl Rove 101 he felt compelled to use my name. That is Karl Rove 101, dude.
b. I have pointed out that Rags loves Little Black Sambo and thinks that Blacks are pimps, prostitutes, and drug dealers. If Senator Rossi is of that opinion, that is a great talking point for doorbelling, don't you think?
c. This is a partisan political website. Who knew. People here don't have to like each other. I am surprised that you shruggies added tc and Unk to your list. As for liking or disliking. Karl Rove 101 is to label any opponent and that is what you did. Do I dislike you for it? No. I understand you shruggies are attempting to take over the local republican party apparatus, like Duke attempted in Louisiana. People who get in your way get labeled.
d. Your baseless remark that I call ALL people thugs and racists is step three in Rove 101:
"Third, and probably the most characteristic of the Rovian tools--"swiftboating." Rove would cultivate groups which were arguably distant from the campaign proper which would run extremely well funded vitriolic ad hominem attacks on the adversary."
Finally, like most of the devotees of Ms. Rand, that very, very, very interesting lady, you lack a sense of humor and the ability to appreciate Ward's post.
Posted by: WVH on April 26, 2008 10:24 AMJust a pathetic version of the liberal Nazi epithet when they lose. I therefore conclude WVH is a liberal, though for sure she will protest it, knowing how many indefensible positions liberals often take. But if it walks like a liberal, quacks like a liberal and votes Democrat, it is a liberal Democrat.
Posted by: Like a duck on April 26, 2008 10:26 AMNo no no. Del Boca Vista.....PHASE III!
Posted by: Sitting on my Duff...man. on April 26, 2008 10:32 AM"WVH,
C'mon girl. Who you thank you foolin any how? You hate whitey, it's obvious. A deep seated, boiling rage that you keep under a lid to try to fool people. It's me honey. Just be honest about who you are girlfriend. If the neocons don't like it too bad.
Posted by Jeremiah at April 26, 2008 10:20 AM
Oh, come on dude, you have nothing to back that up. Interesting that your moniker is the full name of Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Dude, it is you that more likely than not is the hater. What I have said is you can't call Rev. Wright a bigot without also calling Rev. Hagee a bigot and calling some one who thinks Little Black Sambo is great literature along with thinking Blacks, pimps, prostitutes, and drug dealers a bigot. You can't label Rev. Wright a bigot for partisan advantage and not be able to deal with the bigots within your midst and the idiots who hide under sheets and lame monikers, like you.
So, Jeremiah, you failed Rove 101. Sometimes the Rove trainees get how to attack and sometimes they don't.
You also failed the course in humor and don't seem to enjoy Ward's post. Lack of humor, typical of the fans of Ms. Rand.
Posted by: WVH on April 26, 2008 10:34 AMOf course she took great pains to say that she was a "centrist" or an "independent" or some such nonsense. We all know the deceptive dance leftists seem to feel obligated to perform. I can't imagine any conservative being so ashamed of their beliefs. And if you do say you're a conservative guess what happens? Your liberal so-called friends will shun you. Liberal open mindedness is a myth.
I didn't buy WVH's protestations for an instant. It's tough to B.S. someone as far into codgerhood as I am.
Most revealing of all was when she raged, "don't you realize that you're talking to a woman?"
Well, no I didn't and it certainly didn't seem to me to have anything to do with our discussion at the time. Why in the world would gender matter to anyone but a leftist?
I haven't the patience nor the masochistic tendency to wade through her increasingly lengthy posts which lately have turned from a fascination with David Duke to rants about Ayn Rand and now Karl Rove.
Who would you rather have a beer with, Karl Rove, or WVH? Gosh, that's a tough one.
Incredibly, WVH once accused me of being a Ron Paul supporter. Go figure.
A comforting thought, perhaps. As WVH has demonstrated, far leftists can be counted upon to expose who they are at some point. Just ask Barack Obama who must now lie awake at night wondering why he revealed to that friendly gathering in San Francisco his elitist, snooty opinion of rural Americans. We knew all along that's what you really believe, Barack. Nice going!
Leftists really aren't all that bright. They dwell in a world of pessimism and deception thanks to years of brainwashing by an educational establishment run by the left.
If the ecomomy gets worse it appears to make leftists happy. If they can convince people there is "global warming" they are overjoyed. Oh boy! they must think, now we can impose communism! That will fix everything!
Yup, it sure will. But the first thing leftist loons have to do is give up their cell phones, computers, cars, and the smorgasboard of great food capitalism has given them all their lives. What a spoiled bunch of ungrateful nitwits!
Perhaps only God knows why they cling to their failed ideology that history has repeatedly demonstrated to be an utter failure. Maybe it is because the left has always attracted negative, unhappy people who are evidently genetically unable to ever admit that they are wrong. Have you ever seen a photograph of Marx or Lenin where they are smiling?
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on April 26, 2008 10:36 AM"You know WVH has lost the argument when she starts throwing out the "racist, thug, bigot" epithet.
Just a pathetic version of the liberal Nazi epithet when they lose. I therefore conclude WVH is a liberal, though for sure she will protest it, knowing how many indefensible positions liberals often take. But if it walks like a liberal, quacks like a liberal and votes Democrat, it is a liberal Democrat.
Posted by Like a duck at April 26, 2008 10:26 AM
You too, fail Rove 101, Duck. refer to response to Jeremiah at post #20. You shruggies are the most humorless bunch. Not only that, you seem to be failures at Rove 101.
Posted by: WVH on April 26, 2008 10:38 AMAll people? no. Only most people...and without a shred of proof to back it up. WVH doesn't realize that every false accusation of racism only lessens the impact of real racism when it rears its ugly head. I think she's projecting her inner feelings onto others.
#386 caption is dead on the mark.
Posted by: Rick D. on April 26, 2008 10:42 AMBill C said this:
"Eons ago I pointed out that WVH was a leftist."
Really, back in those days you called anyone who DISAGREED with YOU a liberal, socialist, or communist. I believe you reside in Seattle. Your viewpoint of labeling anyone who disagrees with you has been so effective in making Seattle and environs the one-party system that it is.
It is intolerant idots like you that have reduced what was once a state with two viable parties into the one-party stronghold that it is now.
Now, if you want to support Rove and his tactics, go ahead. What those who want a strong two party system should consider are the following by Dan Abrams:
a. A Letter to Karl Rove
Posted April 21, 2008 | 03:30 PM (EST)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-abrams/a-letter-to-karl-rove_b_97815.html
b. Regarding the prosecution of former Governor Sielgman of Alabama and a Mississippi judge this is what Abrams said about Sieligman:
"This is a prosecution, however, that led over 50 former Attorneys General from around the nation- Democrats and Republicans- to express their concern to Congress about the basic fairness of the case. I share many of those concerns. I too have serious questions about the way the case was handled. Given that, is it your contention that it's journalistically unsound to allow the former Governor of the state of Alabama to even state his position on the air?"t
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24244611/
The issue Bill C is that your limited view of the world has not increased the base of those who would respond to the message of principled conservatives.
Your limited view of the world has turned former strong republican strongholds into toss-up districts.
No state should be governed by one party. Although, Rove's strategy of a permanent majority seemed to be the answer to all your problems. all it involved was the attempt to subvert the rule of law and corrupt the insitutions of government. They have had a permanent majority in every despotic state imaginable, it is called tyranny.
You label because you can't successful argue why voters should put your limited view of the world in office. This state's republicans, like the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages, need a reformation.
I labeled you and I believe that you are the one and only. Isn't that sweet. The proof, Rickie, just type something.
Posted by: WVH on April 26, 2008 11:01 AMWOw, the quackie is really quacking loud. Did someone disturb the nest?
Posted by: Like a duck on April 26, 2008 11:10 AMDoes this WVH post not expose liberal intolerance and their penchant for name calling for what it is?
Of course it does, and most readers here see WVH's rantings for what they are.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on April 26, 2008 11:12 AMKeep posting Wilda, that way, people get to see the real WVH.
The closeted Bigot behind the 3 intitials.
Cheers!
Posted by: Rick D. on April 26, 2008 11:13 AMThe Republican won the governorship last time, it was thugs like YOUR GREGOIRE GOONS that STOLE the election quackie. And you have the nerve to talk of tyranny, you - the supporter of tyranny and subversion of democracy. Hey quackie, how do your goons plan on stealing the "selection" this time around? The people will be watching for buckets of weeks old "found" ballots magically supporting the Democrat. Will you front stuff the ballot box or post stuff them quackie?
Posted by: Like a duck on April 26, 2008 11:16 AM1. Bill C said:
"And if you don't agree with WVH you are labeled as having a "limited view of the world". Or an "intolerant idiot".
Does this WVH post not expose liberal intolerance and their penchant for name calling for what it is?
Of course it does, and most readers here see WVH's rantings for what they are.
Really, didn't you Bill C rant for several paragraphs in post #21? You carefully omitted addressing the substance of Rove's tactics and Abrams letters because you have NO response. You carefully omitted responding to how your particular ideology and your outreach tactics have increased the chance for this to be a two party state or for republicans to have a viable slate of candidates in Seattle. The reason is you have NO answer.
All you can do is label. You wanted to believe that Rove's permanent majority was the answer to make up for the lack of appeal of your ideology.
Problem is, in order for that strategy to be effective, it relied on investigations of opponents, smearing opponents, and selective prosecutions of opponents. That would have been OK with you because afterall, your ideology is the way, the truth and the light. Problem is, much of that strategy is illegal. Does that bother you?
All you can do is label because you have accepted that other than having house parties with others like you, you have no viable election strategy for this state
2. Rickie,
Oh come on, you can do better than closested bigot? Remember, you are the one and only. What a minute, Rove is so amoral, and he did run that Black baby camapaign against Senator Mc Cain. I think I found another bigot. Sorry, you are not the one and only any more.
Both of you have no reponse to the subversion of justice accusation of Rove. Your only response is to change the subject. But, then, that is Rove 101, isn't it?
"Narrow world view"? Only snotty liberal elitists would use such a phrase to describe those they have political disagreements with.
But liberal elitists also look down on the people that repair their cars, and grow their food.
It might be entertaining if WVH would describe what a "broad world view" might encompass. Global communism, perhaps?
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on April 26, 2008 11:38 AMPsychologically unstable people obsess with people like David Duke, Ayn Rand and Karl Rove and constantly post rambling incoherent thoughts intermixing the above people in their posts......sound familiar, WVH?
The DSM IV-TR is a good reference for you if you'd like to do some "self help" analysis.
I wish you Godspeed on your recovery.
Posted by: Rick D. on April 26, 2008 11:39 AMGovernor Gregoire plans on winning the election the old fashioned way. She will earn it. I must admit that it will require a lot of doorbelling and letting people know the differences bewteen candidates.
One thing you failed to address in your remarks is the demographic change that has occurred in this state since 2000:
OFM | News | Washington Minority Population Growth ContinuesWashington Minority Population Growth Continues. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE--September 30, 2004. OLYMPIA--Racial and Hispanic projections by the Washington Office ...
www.ofm.wa.gov/news/release/2004/093004.asp
OFM | Washington Continues to Show Strong Population GrowthJun 27, 2007 ... "About two- thirds of the state population growth is from persons moving to Washington --attracted by the state's good employment climate," ...
www.ofm.wa.gov/news/release/2007/070627
More results from www.ofm.wa.gov »
What you are going to note from the figures is the state has changed since 2004. There is more urbanization. There has always been a larger population in the western part of the state. Increaingly, the republican party is the party of rural areas and small towns. The battle ground will be the burbs.
So, don't look for as you call it a "stolen" election. A close election, perhaps, but there will be a Gregoire win because things have changed and incumbents are hard to unseat.
1. Rickie,
You mad cause you are not my one and only, I called Rove a bigot too. Sorry. Look at the bright side, at least you have company.
2. Bill C,
First, you call me a communist, socialist, liberal, and now I am an elitist.
Still no response to Rove and why this state and city are one-party.
Well, folks time for us all to enjoy this day, I think the weather is supposed to change tomorrow.
Posted by: WVH on April 26, 2008 11:47 AMGrin!
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on April 26, 2008 11:50 AMYou claim you are nearing 60years old......perhaps you should start acting like it.
Posted by: Rick D. on April 26, 2008 11:55 AMI wonder, LBV, would your queen let you join her sorority? Where exactly was your seat on her bus?
I'm not so sure it's just DSM IV-TR as much as it is more pointedly battered spouse syndrome, where the VICTIM continually defends, excuses and worships the abuser.
"Often sufferers will even seek out their very abuser for comfort shortly after an incident of abuse."
Wrights Voice Here!
Wrights Voice of Hatred!
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on April 26, 2008 12:01 PMWrestling Voices in her Head
Hopefully Wilda is checking out the DSM manual...sometimes the afflicted are the last to know of their disease.
Posted by: Rick D. on April 26, 2008 12:05 PMYes, I may have called you all those things WVH.
I do believe that the angry communist blather you spew here almost every day have established that I have been entirely correct.
Despite my "narrow world view".
Do you actually enjoy being constantly angry? Oh of course you do, you are a leftist. Silly me.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on April 26, 2008 12:05 PMGlad to see you've made so many friends here Wilda.
Posted by: Rick D. on April 26, 2008 12:15 PM"37. Woman Vocalizing Hatred
You claim you are nearing 60years old......perhaps you should start acting like it.
Posted by Rick
Rickie, I never claimed anything. I never disclose personal details. You do especially when you are losing an argumement. Let's see, that would be Rove 101:
"".... As James Moore documents in his political biography of Rove, Bush's Brain, politicians who faced Rove in election contests had recurrent problems.
One was rumor campaigns questioning their sexual orientation, adulterous liaisons and similar tawdry matters. Prime examples of this were the rumor campaign launched against Texas Governor Anne Richards suggesting she was a lesbian, and even more pointedly, the curious telephone push-polling during the decisive 2000 Republican primary in South Carolina, suggesting that John McCain had fathered a child in an adulterous relationship with a black woman (McCain and his wife have an adopted daughter from South Asia, whose photograph with her father was circulated in connection with these insinuations).
Second, Rove's opponents would regularly find that they had suddenly become the target of a criminal investigation, and details concerning the investigation would be aggressively fanned to the press. Rove mastered this technique in a contest for the Texas Agriculture Commissioner's post that he managed for now-Governor Rick Perry."
What is the grad course in Rove 101 Rickie, you put a contract out on me and have me killed?
I'm going out to enjoy the weather especially since Rove 201 is bumping off opponents and since Rickie can't argue politics and has to follow Rove, I guess the call to the hitman comes next.
Losers, all of you. ta ta.
Posted by: WVH on April 26, 2008 12:44 PMYou still haven't posted that picture of you reading Little Black Sambo to Senator Rossi, oh any picutre with you and him would be useful as I have your quotes about Blacks. Glad to see that Rickie has picked-up the thought that ALL Blacks are pimps, prostitutes, drug addicts and Rickie's new word, harlot.
The outreach of you three stooges will ensure that the city of Seattle and the state for that matter will remain one-party for the foreseeable future. Thinking republicans have got to be looking at the theory that you shruggies need total electoral disaster to take over the party, you know like Duke tried in Louisiana.
Anyhow, your talking points about Blacks make great handouts. Now, all I need is a picture.
Posted by: WVH on April 26, 2008 12:53 PM"Often sufferers will even seek out their very abuser for comfort shortly after an incident of abuse."
*WVH April 18, 2008 10:23 AM
April 17, 2008 10:06 PM
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**CATO February 29, 2008 01:42 PM
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on April 26, 2008 01:15 PMReally?
"I am not a supporter of any candidate at present, but I am Black."
Posted by: WVH on February 17, 2008 11:58 AM
Why do I, a non-supporter, have to defend Obama, because I am Black?... I happen to be an independent...Yep, I am Black, I must support Obama, right? Idiot."
Posted by: WVH on February 17, 2008 02:14 PM
"...my friends call me, WVH, it is Dr. WVH to idiots like you. You, Mr. bigot are what?"
Posted by: WVH on February 17, 2008 02:17 PM
"I am the person to answer because I am Black...what makes me the go-to-galon Obama, other than color?"
Posted by: WVH on February 17, 2008 04:37 PM
Not to mention the fact she all but shouts when she's "off to the symphony".
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on April 26, 2008 01:41 PMI don't know who WVH is, but I certainly know what she is.
It is not important to me whether I have been right or wrong. What is important is exposing leftist phonies who evidently have so little confidence in their political ideology that they have convinced themselves they must disguise it. You can turn on Rush, or Hannity, or Medved every day and hear these pathetic liars call up and claim they are disaffected Republicans. I reckon WVH is one of them.
I love spirited political debate. What I cannot stand are liars.
What is it about liberalism that turns its adherents into snarling little 7-year old liars at the drop of a hat?
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on April 26, 2008 01:42 PM"...my name is Wilda H****."
Posted by: WVH on (Date withheld)06:52 PM
*= full name disclosed but no sense in reposting it, as the point is made.
Posted by: Rick D. on April 26, 2008 01:55 PMI'm glad she has an admirerer... she could probaly use an occaasional date though.
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on April 26, 2008 02:00 PMIt's the kind of pure lie that comes straight out of the Democrats'playbook. These creeps can tell these lies day after day. Remember their lie about "Bush wants to privitize Social Security"?
The media isn't going to take them to task. Of course not.
They are Democrats, and in the bag for either Hillary or Obama. Other than that "biased" Fox News of course.
The big point in my view is that as conservatives perhaps our biggest obstacle is dealing with a bunch so obsessed with power that lying is nothing to them.
Lying is ingrained in liberal culture. Liberals have convinced themselves that there isn't anything wrong with lying in the same way they've convinced themselves that there really isn't any difference between right and wrong. It's all "relative".
How I wish I was making this stuff up.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on April 26, 2008 02:30 PM
I'm sure you quackies don't want ANYONE to look closely at the election. That way it will be easier to steal. My my there certainly is a lot of action on SP today by the resident quackie.
Otherwise you certainly could fly off to HA where gobblydegook is not only appreciated, but rewarded.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on April 26, 2008 02:45 PMYou never need invent things about the political left. One thing is certain. There are their own best parody.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on April 26, 2008 03:05 PMPerhaps they just aren't capable of seeing how truly childish they are.
We're big fans of Jay Leno. I wish he'd add a new feature, "this week's really stupid liberal idea". He could start with ethanol and go from there. The list of dumb ideas liberals come up with is endless.
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on April 26, 2008 03:25 PMYou are such a card. You were using my first name for weeks. The first name was first disclosed by pudge. After several weeks of oh, Wilda this or oh Wilda that, Have you Heard what Elder said.
Now, regarding this comment:
"You claim you are nearing 60years old......perhaps you should start acting like it."
That is what brought this little rant of yours on.
1. OK let's get down to business. Rickie and the boys are adherents of that very interesting lady, Ms Rand. This is how she feels about republicans:
Letters of Ayn Rand, edited by Michael S. Berliner, New York: Penguin Dutton, 1995, 681 pages
"On November 7, 1943, Ayn Rand issued a prophetic warning to Ruth Alexander, a prominent conservative writer and lecturer: "God save capitalism from capitalism's defenders! Nobody can defeat us nowexcept the Republicans." For Rand, the Republican Party had exhibited an awful penchant for political compromise: It had never seriously challenged the "collectivist premises" of the New Deal, nor had it fundamentally opposed the country's march toward statism. Ultimately, Rand thought, the GOP merely sought to slow the march toward collectivism, rather than to reverse its direction. For Rand, its betrayal of principle engendered the rise of the theocratic right, a move ment that, in Rand's view, undermined the rational and moral case for capitalism."
2.Have the readers ever wondered why Rickie and the boys feel the need to Rove poor little old me?
a. Background, See, Misssissippi Burning it is out on DVD, it tells the story of the White Citizens Council and KKK. That will give you background on Rickie.
b.Background, See Watergate:
"The Watergate Story (washingtonpost.com)What was Watergage? An in-depth look at the scandal that changed Washington and American politics forever, The Washington Post reporters whose reporting ...
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/watergate/index.html - Similar pages
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www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/onpolitics/watergate/chronology.htm More results from www.washingtonpost.com »
For those who haven't got time to read the numerous books and articules, then rent this movie on DVD, if you haven't already:
Washingtonpost.com: All the President's MenIncludes plot summary, background on the real story beind the film, speculation on the identity of Deep Throat, notes on Washington area locations seen in ...
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/movies/features/dcmovies/allthepresidentsmen.htm
3. What Rickie and the boys want is what Karl Rove is after, a permanent majority. Why do they want a permanent majority, because they can't win an electoral victory. It is instructive to follow what is going on in Zimbabwe with Mugabe. He also wants a permanent majority.
a. Rickie and the boys are Rand fans. Although there is a Libertarian party, they can't win elections. Although David Duke tried to run as a KKK member, he had to try the republican party.
b. Rove attempted to try out the permanent majority theory in Alabama and Mississippi. The Sielgelman case is crucial. The theory of the permanent majority is that you invesitigate opponents, attempt to threaten and harass them and when you have synmpathetic prosecutors, you prosecute opponents, like Governor Sielgelman of Alabama and Judge Gonzales in Mississippi.
Now, for all you principled conservatives and those who feel that the insitutions of this country should not be subverted, you need to understand what Rickie and the boys are about.Traditionally, the Justice Department and the various agencies like the US Attorneys and FBI have been career public servants who were not partisans. Not so, permanent majority theory means you install YOUR people and they do what they are supposed to do, that is prosecute opponents.
To the dems and indies out there, you need to get off your lame butts and support Governor Gregoire, unless you want the permanent majority theory here. Bone up on Watergate.
So, Rickie, what is the next Rovian move?
Win any elections in your part of town recently?
Thought so. That is why you and Ricky are such fans of Rove and the permanent majority. Yup, you would subvert every institution of government because you know that your view of the world is rejected by voters.
So, what do I get called now, duck, communist, elist?
Being on the enemies list of Rickie and the boys is a bit like being on the enemies list of those who opposed Nixon. You can't win an election and you know it, so you need the Wizard, Rove to come up with smoke and mirriors like in Watergate.
For those not familiar with Watergate, here is some background:
Nixon Forces Firing of Cox; Richardson, Ruckelshaus Quit
President Abolishes Prosecutor's Office; FBI Seals Records
By Carroll Kilpatrick
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, October 21, 1973; Page A01
In the most traumatic government upheaval of the Watergate crisis, President Nixon yesterday discharged Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox and accepted the resignations of Attorney General Elliot L. Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William D. Ruckelshaus.
The President also abolished the office of the special prosecutor and turned over to the Justice Department the entire responsibility for further investigation and prosecution of suspects and defendants in Watergate and related cases.
Shortly after the White House announcement, FBI agents sealed off the offices of Richardson and Ruckelshaus in the Justice Department and at Cox's headquarters in an office building on K Street NW.
An FBI spokesman said the agents moved in "at the request of the White House."
Agents told staff members in Cox's office they would be allowed to take out only personal papers. A Justice Department official said the FBI agents and building guards at Richardson's and Ruckelshaus' offices were there "to be sure that nothing was taken out."
Richardson resigned when Mr. Nixon instructed him to fire Cox and Richardson refused. When the President then asked Ruckelshaus to dismiss Cox, he refused, White House spokesman Ronald L. Ziegler said, and he was fired. Ruckelshaus said he resigned.
Finally, the President turned to Solicitor General Robert H. Bork, who by law becomes acting Attorney General when the Attorney General and deputy attorney general are absent, and he carried out the President's order to fire Cox. The letter from the President to Bork also said Ruckelshaus resigned.
These dramatic developments were announced at the White House at 8:25 p.m. after Cox had refused to accept or comply with the terms of an agreement worked out by the President and the Senate Watergate committee under which summarized material from the White House Watergate tapes would be turned over to Cox and the Senate committee.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/watergate/articles/102173-2.htm
Many here don't recognize the courage of a Bill Ruckelhaus. He stood up to the thugs of his day.
So, Bill C., if I admire Ruckelhaus, what is the name for that?
Posted by: WVH on April 26, 2008 03:43 PMPardon my opinion, but I think you're off your rocker.
Good heavens!
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on April 26, 2008 03:46 PMWould anyone be surprised at this point?
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on April 26, 2008 03:56 PMAs you know, Skull and Bones is an eating club at Yale. President Bush belonged. This has nothing to do with Ivy League eating clubs. Rove went to five or six universities and never graduated. None of them, Ivies. This has to do with a political theory called the permanent majority. No, Bill C,, you and the boys wouldn't have spent so much time if you didn't want the fact that you can't win elections with YOUR ideology and need some avenue for political power discussed in a public venue. There is actually a market for conservative ideas, but you are incapable of articulating the case. The idea of a permanent majority obtained by whatever means necessary appeals to you.
As for this comment:
"Pardon my opinion, but I think you're off your rocker."
That comes from Rove 101, see the GQ article on Jill Simpson:
""Note Rove's thematic line: Simpson is "a complete lunatic... a loon." It apparently gets worse than this. In the original interview, as reported in at-Largely, Rove apparently made scurrilous insinuations about Simpson's family life and her relationship with her children. GQ made the wise decision to strike them from the published text."
Aren't you and the boys ever going to graduate to Rove 201?
Fortunately, we decide things in this country by election. For those indies and dems out there, I hope you are working your butts off for Gregoire.
Posted by: WVH on April 26, 2008 03:59 PMSince you are a historian, you know that the first president Bush fired Rove.
For those indies and dems out there, you need to work your butt off for Gregoire.
Posted by: WVH on April 26, 2008 04:03 PMGood grief!
Posted by: Bill Cruchon on April 26, 2008 04:08 PMI've posited a few which she studiously ignored.
Let's try again...
When you look in the mirror, LBV what troubles your "heart" more, THE knowledge that evil WHITE liberal politicans instituted the racism known as affirmative action? THAT niggling, haunting doubt that the evil WHITE liberal racist institution known as affirmative action is responsible for your "PhD"? OR worrying that others wonder if you are actually qualified on your merits or merely on your color?
Would your queen have voted you in or OUT of her sorority. LBV?
Where was your seat on her 'paid no tax in WA/Oregon plates' bus, LBV?
Given that you claim to be Catholic, LBV, how do you reconcile your support for an admitted abortion promoter given that the Church expressly forbids it and has come down harshly on public figures/politicains who support it?
Given your rantings about liars and your admitted and vocal support for your queen, LBV how do you reconcile her lies?
When the obfusCATOr whines "copy/paste" over links, LBV, do you hang your head in shame mumbling "Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa"?
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on April 26, 2008 04:26 PMEnjoy-
Posted by: Rick D. on April 26, 2008 04:48 PMHey quackie, you're back. You will have to ask Billy and his shruggies about that one.
Posted by: Like a duck on April 26, 2008 06:30 PMHa ha ah. I'll givie it to you quackie, you got a sense of humor alright. I am sure that Stalin or Saddam would tell you they decided things "by elections". Why Saddam even got 99.9% of the vote in HIS last "election", imagine that! Will Gregoire get that many votes this time too? Huh?
WVH, you and your quackies don't have to do anything until a day or so before "selection", where you'll all run down to KCS and start stuff'n em for the queenie.
Quack quack.
1. Rickie, that calling ALL people of one group evil is your thing. I have never said I hate you or the rest of the stooges. I just think you're idiots and thugs. You and Rove are the two bigots I have named for consumption here. Rove can keep you company, so you don't get lonely.
2. Now, Rags, any picture of you and Senator Rossi?
3. Duckie, yes people will be working hard for Governor Gregoire because the winner of the election, even if it is Senator Rossi deserves the right to govern without a cloud. We will win by a sufficient margin to shut you up.
Now, the three of you don't want to comment on the permanent majority strategy, because you can't. I believe that Bill C lives inside the city limits. He has a snow ball's chance of getting a republican elected in his district without some sort of permanent majority strategy and he knows it. I think the stooges want republicans to lose, so that their looney ideas might get adopted by some party with a respectable name. Duke tried this in Louisiana.
Jason Berry researches the history of Louisiana:
How David Duke and the Born-Agains Wrecked Louisiana's GOP
Jason Berry
Story in .rtf
Contact the Curator for the story and pictures.
Louisiana has a spectacular history of corruption, most of it by Democrats. Disgust with that legacy animated Republican leaders, who took party organization as seriously as their rock ribbed conservatism. They had to. Outnumbered 3-to-1 by Democrats, Republicans held few offices until the 1980s, when a succession of Louisiana legislators began switching parties.
By 1988 there were 24 Republicans out of 144 in the two chambers. Three of Louisiana's six Congressmen were Republican, and Secretary of State Fox McKeithen soon shocked his daddy, former governor John McKeithen, by leaving the Democratic told. In the last four years, seventy lower-level Democratic officials also have become "switchers." Republican control of the White House was a boon in attracting Southerners at odds with national Democratic policies.
It took more than a generation, from mists of the Eisenhower era, to build Louisiana's Republican Party and just four years to wreck it. GOP veterans pin much of the blame for today's disarray on a cadre of evangelical Christians who swept into the State Central Committee in 1988, capturing a third of its 144 seats. Thousands of evangelicals in Louisiana also supported David Duke. Gone from office, Duke is not forgotten.
'The Louisiana Republican Party is an empty shell," says University of New Orleans political scientist Charles Hadley. "David Duke pretty much destroyed it."
http://www.aliciapatterson.org/APF1503/Berry/Berry.html
Now, contrast David Duke with Governor Bobby Jindal:
Sunday, October 21, 2007
Louisiana Elects Bobby Jindal As Governor
By Pilgrim on October 21, 2007 at 05:01 am 10 Comments
Okay, so why is this significant?
It's significant on several levels. First, at 36, he will be the youngest governor in the nation. Second, he's a conservative Republican. Louisiana is a strongly Democratic state and not only that a strongly Democratic deep south state. And that brings up the third and perhaps most important of the points:
Jindal is not only a conservative Republican who just got elected with about 54% (none of the other three candidates got more than 18%) of the vote, he's an Indian. His parents immigrated to America from India in the seventies and to look at him there is no mistaking his ethnicity. He not only got the deep south rural vote, he carried much of the urban areas and got as much as 10% of the African-American vote, a remarkable feat for any conservative Republican candidate. And what's probably even more remarkable he just thoroughly trounced his three opponents, white male Democrats all.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/louisiana_elects_bobby_jindal_as_governor/
Note: Governor Jindal got votes from all over the state and 10% of the Black vote as a conservative republican. It is not the philosophy or message, it is the fact that so many of the messengers are idiots, you know, like the stooges.
The stooges lament no one wants to vote for and hear a conservative message. Not true, Governor Jindal is a quality candidate. Unlike the stooges, he does not use terms like Little Black Sambo and Blacks are pimps, harlots (Ricky learned a new word) and drug dealers. He is the future of the republican party, not the stooges, not David Duke. If Senator Rossi is smart, he will avoid Rags like the plague. A free dinner to anyone forwarding a picture of Rags with Rossi, though.
Now, what is Senator Mc Cain doing while Senators Clinton and Obama are acting like the WWF. He is in New Orleans with Governor Jindal:
April 24, 2008, 10:50 pm
McCain, Jindal Swap Praise in Louisiana
Elizabeth Holmes reports from Baton Rouge on the presidential race.
John McCain spent Thursday blasting the federal government for its handling of Hurricane Katrina. But when it came to Gov. Bobby Jindal, it was nothing but a Louisiana love fest.
Jindal on McCain: "I was I was thrilled the senator was able to meet with so many folks here" and "I want to first of all praise the senator..."
McCain on Jindal: "Gov. Jindal is one of the great governors" and "I'm honored to have his friendship" and "He stands for a new way of doing business."
The unofficial Republican nominee and the popular young governor -- rumored to be among the vice presidential picks -- traded first information and then compliments Thursday, each one surpassing the last.
The pair began the day by touring the Lower Ninth Ward of New Orleans, one of the hardest hit areas of the city. Flanked by community leaders, Jindal explained some of the problems still facing the devastated area, including a need for affordable housing. FEMA trailers, a hallmark for the botched cleanup effort, take nearly a month to be removed when a family moves back.
"It took forever to get them here, and then they take forever to get 'em out," Jindal told McCain. McCain shook his head incredulously several times. "My goodness," he said.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/04/24/mccain-jindal-swap-praise-in-louisiana/
The stooges and Karl Rove and the permanent majority strategy represent the past. Governor Jindal represents the future.
Meanwhile, the stooges continue to be stooges.
If you don't want these jerks any where near power, support Governor Gregoire.
I could never copy and paste as well as you. I still need that picture of you and Senator Rossi.
You are not surprised, I am just following your tactic. I note you don't want to use the phrase "Little Black Victim," You might as well as I have all the quotes. All I need is a picture of you and Rossi to go with the quotes. I suppose a picture will come my way before doorbelling season. Just so you know SOBFF means Stupid Old BIG FAT fART.
Now, your permanent majority gambit has been upset. I expect that Rove like Roy Cohn will eventually face the music of life. Here is a Cohn quote:
"Cohn was a survivor and in 1979 admitted that: "My idea of real power is not people who hold office. They're here today and gone tomorrow. Power means the ability to get things done. It stems from friendship in my case."
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAcohn.htm
Now here is a some choice Rove quote:
"We will f**k him. Do you hear me? We will f**k him. We will ruin him. Like no one has ever f**ked him." -to an aide about some political stratagem in some state that had gone awry and a political operative who had displeased him"
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/karlrove/a/karlrovequotes.htm
How alike Rove and Cohn are, wonder if they will have the same end?
Really though, Rags, I hope to get my copying and pasting up to your very high standards.
You must have a photo you hugging Senator Rossi
somewhere. It'll turn up before election, they usually do.
So quackie, you and your cronies will stuff them before election day and throw them in with the rest of the them. Thanks for confirming it. Now that much of the state was forced into mail in ballots, your election theft efforts will be much harder to detect. So I guess Gregoire will top Saddam's 99.9% then eh? Stalin would be so proud. After all quackie, it was your hero Stalin that said "It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes."
Say, wasn't that you I spotted hugging the Statue of Lenin?
Quack quack.
Posted by: Like a duck on April 26, 2008 11:22 PMWell, given Gregoire's past association with racist southern sororities, we KNOW there won't be a picture of you with Gregoire found! You'll be lucky if she lets you in the door, though I am certain she'd welcome you on her fraud team stuffing ballots to put her over the top. The more things change, the more they stay the same it seems.
Quack quack.
Posted by: Like a duck on April 26, 2008 11:28 PMYes, WVH is a bit delusional if she expects any of us to believe she is a political "independent". No true independent could possibly be such a fervent supporter of the extremely liberal Queen Christine. As such, WVH has little credibility with me, but is in fact quite harmless. Most SP readers probably do as I do, and just page on past her rambling, book-length postings.
Posted by: Saltherring on April 26, 2008 11:31 PM
Sorry, YOU and yours are the almost permanent majority folks. YOU support Rove/Cohn and their ilk. YOU can't win at the ballot box, so you need the Wizzard of Oz A/K/A Karl Rove and the permanent majority strategy of subverting the institutions of government for partisan political purpose. Rove did a pretty good job at the Department of Justice, didn't he? He almost pulled it off.
Hugging a statute of Lenin, really can't you and the rest of the boys come up with something better than that. What is it, five or six of you vs. little ole me. Bill C's gambit is every one who disagrees with him is a communist, socialist, liberal or elitist. So, I guess the group decision is that I must be hugging a Statute of Lenin.
You people are pathetic and that is why this is a one-party state. You can't even win Mercer Island and there is a good chance that a so/so candidate like Darcy Burner will knock off Rep Reichert.
Eventually, Roy Cohn's strategy backfired, as will Rove's. Unless your team can investigate opponents or intimidate them with the threat of prosecution, you have no permanent majority. You can't win on the issues because you can't articulate a position and besides, you are more followers of Ayn Rand than republicans. The five or six of you stooges collectively couldn't come up with an argument if your lives depended upon it. Governor Jindal is an articulate candidate who can state a position. All you thugs can do is attempt to threaten, attempt to harass and investigate.
Far from hugging a Statute of Lenin, I see you hugging a dead duck. You can't win on issues, you can only hope Rove rises from the dead and none of the investigations sticks. Whether they stick or not, he will end up like Roy Cohn.
So, which one of the stooges gets to write the next response. Five stooges = 1/2 brain cell. Rags has responded, Ducky has responded, who is next, Rickie, Bill C or Jeff B?
Posted by: WVH on April 26, 2008 11:44 PMI think you are harmless as well. Goodness, I must be striking a cord. You said:
"No true independent could possibly be such a fervent supporter of the extremely liberal Queen Christine."
Governor Gregoire's supporters don't seem to have the affinity for Little Black Sambo that Senator Rossi's do. Besides, in your mind, anyone who doesn't fall lock step with your opinion is a liberal right?
You and Bill C, brothers in the spirit?
Fact of the matter is you have no clue what any independent or moderate will or will not do. If you are a republican, many here are libertarians, you should be prepared for many independents and moderates to eventually vote for the Governor. So, I suppose, they will all be delusional, right?
This is a one-party state because those claiming to be republicans have no clue how to expand their base. I suppose, I can say you are harmless. At least you aren't repelling potential voters.
For Gregoire, that time came in her 60's college days when she could have declined to join a southern racist sorority. Instead, she looked the other way and joined in with the racist organization. Has she changed?
We know in 1989, in the Loma Prieta quake, the double decker viaduct, just like the one in Seattle, pancaked killing 43 people in a horrible manner. Yet again in Gregoire's life, she had a chance to make a difference. It has been SEVEN YEARS since the Nisqually quake and what has Gregoire done to replace it? Does it take seven years to replace a viaduct? In San Francisco, they tore down the Embarcadero viaduct in just two years after the quake.
Gregoire has again faced a historic chance to make a stand for the public good and instead, like she did in her sorority days, blinked. Instead of leading, she put the burden back on the voters and thus looked the other way. Apparently the potential for Washingtonians being squished to death isn't a high priority for her.
It is time for change. It is time for ROSSI!
Posted by: Like a duck on April 26, 2008 11:55 PMWell at least you are focusing on issues which are the sorority and the viaduct.
1. The sorority issue occurred in 1989. If was a character test, she failed. Maybe, Senator Rossi would have or did do better in 1989. We are now in 2008, we have posters here who think Little Black Sambo is great literature and Black people are pimps, harlots (Ricky's new word) and drug dealers.
So, where is Senator Rossi:
a. In 1989, if he had a test regarding race, how did he do? Can you describe the comparable test.
b. Does he think Little Black Sambo is great literature?
c. Does he, like Rags, think Black people are pimps, prostitutes, and whores or harlots?
2. You are talking about the viaduct. The question is how does Senator Rossi get his plan for transportation through a legislature controlled by democrats and a Seattle population who has voted against his option?
Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 12:05 AMJust in character. Accuse others of that for which YOU are guilty. Democrats are known election crooks from Tamany hall to ACORN and the Milwaukee election fraud, Democrats are masters of election theft. And YOU throw in with them quackie.
Milwaukee, Wisconsin - 10/5/04 :
More than 50 demonstrators supporting Democrat presidential candidate John Kerry stormed a Republican campaign office in West Allis at mid-day today, trespassing, creating a disturbance through the use of a bullhorn in the office and then refusing to leave when asked.
Graber called the latest incident part of a disturbing trend of criminal conduct by anti-Bush forces in Wisconsin, pointing to an incident in Madison last week in which Bush-Cheney yard signs were stolen from the yards of three homes. The vandals then used chemicals to burn swastikas into the lawns of the homes, which were within a two-block radius of one another.
In addition, reports of stolen, defaced and damaged Bush-Cheney campaign signs are surfacing throughout Wisconsin.
"Our volunteers, from children to the elderly, have every right to feel safe when they are working on behalf of a cause and candidates they believe in," Graber commented. "This type of thuggish, intimidating conduct is absolutely unacceptable. It is time for John Kerry, the Wisconsin Democrat party, and Kerry's campaign leaders, including Gov. James E. Doyle, to put a stop to this shameful behavior."
Orlando, Florida 10/5/04 :
A group of protestors stormed and then ransacked a Bush-Cheney headquarters building in Orlando, Fla., Tuesday, according to Local 6 News.
Local 6 News reported that several people from the group of 100 Orlando protestors face possible assault charges after the group forced their way inside the Republican headquarters office.
While in the building, some of the protestors drew horns and a mustache on a poster of President George W. Bush and poured piles of letters in the office, according to the report.
Knoxville, Tennessee 10/5/04 :
An unknown suspect fired several shots into the Bearden office of the Bush/Cheney re-election campaign Tuesday morning.
The headquarters are located at 4618 Kingston Pike, next to Noveau Classics and in the same shopping plaza as Long's Drugstore.
According to Knoxville Police Department (KPD) officers on the scene Tuesday, it is believed that the two separate shots were fired from a car sometime between 6:30 am and 7:15 am.
One shot shattered the glass in the front door and the other cracked the glass in another of the front doors.
Volunteers and staffers at the campaign office say they have no clues as to who might have committed the crime. However, they add that the shooting makes them even more enthusiastic and energized about working for their candidates.
"If I have to sleep here (at the campaign office) now, that's what I'll do," says volunteer Suzanne Dewar.
Bellevue, Washington 10/2/04:
Three computers loaded with confidential campaign plans were reported stolen early yesterday in a burglary at President Bush's Washington state campaign headquarters.
Someone threw a rock through a window of the campaign's office in a suburban business park, taking laptops belonging to key campaign workers from the desk of the Bush campaign's state director, Bellevue police and Republican Party officials said.
The Bush campaign and local Republican officials say they're convinced the break-in was politically motivated. They say it appeared to be a targeted burglary and was suspiciously similar to a break-in four years ago at Bush's Bellevue offices.
Madison, Wisconsin 10/1/04:
Someone burned an 8-foot-by-8-foot Nazi swastika on a home's lawn near where Bush-Cheney signs were posted. The vandals used grass killer to spray the symbol.
"I just cannot believe that someone would take the liberty to do this," said homeowner Rob Schaeffer. "We're appalled that someone would choose to destroy our property because they don't believe in our political views. My signs are going right back in the yard. This is my property. We live here. We have rights."
Police are investigating the criminal damage and told the homeowner it will be investigated as a hate crime, which carries stiffer penalties.
Avon, Colorado 9/29/04 :
Enough of the burning Bush and enough of the Avon chain saw massacre.
Vandals trespassing on his property to chainsaw the middle out of Republican campaign signs spurred landowner Magnus Lindholm Wednesday to offer a $5,000 reward for information leading the arrest of those responsible.
Earlier this week, somebody chain-sawed the middle out of two Bush signs on his property in Avon at the William Post Boulevard exit on Interstate 70. A "Bush/Cheney '04" campaign sign was burned in Wolcott.
No signs promoting Democratic presidential hopeful John Kerry or Senate hopeful Ken Salazar have been reported damaged.
MErcer Island, Washington 10/14/04 :
According to two Mercer Island men, signs supporting President Bush are an endangered species. Within days of going up in the affluent neighborhood, the signs disappear. So there the men were this week, camped in the dark woods with lawn chairs and a video camera, waiting for the thieves to strike. It only took three hours. At about 10 p.m. Tuesday, a 25-year-old Mercer Island man walked to a grassy area along the 6700 block of Island Crest Way and began to pull up Bush signs installed by the two men, police said.
The amateur detectives burst out of the woods and confronted the man, who was apologetic. The men detained him until police arrived.
One of the men, who did not want to be identified for fear of reprisals by Kerry supporters, said the anti-Bush sentiment in the neighborhood is extreme and angry. "They're entirely within their rights to protect their investment and make sure their views are protected," said Ross Marzolf, executive director of the King County Republican Party, which gave the men new signs.
This Democrat thuggery is hereby dubbed the WVH Permanent Majority Strategy in honor of chief thug propagandist and proponent, WVH.
Posted by: Like a duck on April 27, 2008 12:14 AMYou brought up two issues as to why you are supporting Senator Rossi. Those issues are:
1. Governor Gregoire's issue regarding race and her stint as president of her sorority.
2. The viaduct
Fine, those are two valid issues. So, I asked you two questions in response since you are a Rossi supporter. Care to answer whether Senator Rossi did better in 1989 on the issue of race and how he will get his plan through a dem legislature?
3. Careful, about long responses as Saltherring will label you as a harmless quack and skip over your posts. Oh, maybe its just me he feels is not worthy of reading. i forgot, you are a brother in the spirit.
4. Now, regarding your posts about campaign criminal acts, there are criminal statutes in place for those of any party who feel that they should violate rules. PROSECUTE THE OFFENDERS.
5. These are the questions I asked you, care to respond?
1. The sorority issue occurred in 1989. If was a character test, she failed. Maybe, Senator Rossi would have or did do better in 1989. We are now in 2008, we have posters here who think Little Black Sambo is great literature and Black people are pimps, harlots (Ricky's new word) and drug dealers.
So, where is Senator Rossi:
a. In 1989, if he had a test regarding race, how did he do? Can you describe the comparable test.
b. Does he think Little Black Sambo is great literature?
c. Does he, like Rags, think Black people are pimps, prostitutes, and whores or harlots?
2. You are talking about the viaduct. The question is how does Senator Rossi get his plan for transportation through a legislature controlled by democrats and a Seattle population who has voted against his option?
So, since you are supporting Senator Rossi, what is your response to questions 1 & 2.
And you don't think I could point to any Democrats who think the very same way? Oh c'mon WVH. How old are you? I know for a fact that you aren't that naive or stupid. This is the internet, the good the bad and the ugly are represented whether we like it or not. So if some racist Democrat posts they like Little Black Sambo on HA, will you conclude "AHA Gregoire is a racist"? Give. Me. A . Break.
"You are talking about the viaduct. The question is how does Senator Rossi get his plan for transportation through a legislature controlled by democrats and a Seattle population who has voted against his option?"
The same way he got a balanced budget through when there was a Democrat governor. It is called bipartisan cooperation. I am sure there are many Democrats in the legislature of good will who will be willing to follow a leader who is sincerely interested in fixing this problem. That is why we elect a governor, to lead not to throw the big picture issues such as the viaduct back at voters.
Now let me turn that question around WVH. If Gregoire couldn't or perhaps wouldn't get the work going on the viaduct, even though she had four years and a Democrat majority, what makes you think all of a sudden she will do it now? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is called insanity. Putting Gregoire in there again is the very definition of insanity. And if she does get in and the viaduct collapses in a quake, you will share the blood on your hands.
Let's face it though, when your party controls the who enchilada, getting things through is a cake walk. The sign of a true leader is one that can bring solutions to the people when their party is NOT in the majority.
Does Bobby Lindal have majority Republican legislature? You just sang his praises a few posts ago. Why is Rossi any different?
Posted by: Like a duck on April 27, 2008 12:30 AM1. You still didn't answer how Senator Rossi did in 1989? So, did he do better than Governor Gregoire or not? Still waiting for your answer.
2. Ducky said:
"This is the internet, the good the bad and the ugly are represented whether we like it or not. So if some racist Democrat posts they like Little Black Sambo on HA, will you conclude "AHA Gregoire is a racist"? Give. Me. A . Break."
Ducky, I never said Senator Rossi is or isn't a racist. Interesting you would label, Rags. Here is what gives me pause about Senator Rossi, his support from the BIAW and yes, his support from those like Rags. As for labeling him, I haven't done that, but if there is evidence that Rags is a close supporter, yes, I would have questions.
So, what is Senator Rossi's history, if you know, on an issue like the sorority issue?
3. Governor Jindal, not Lindal, she is Governor of Hawaii is a very impressive person. He has something going for him that Senator Rossi won't have, a population that is tired of decades of corruption. The dems will not do Senator Rossi any favors, no matter how charming he is. One of the key elements of his transportation plan is the 520 bridge eight lanes which goes through Montlake. Ain't going to happen. There is a huge difference between the circumstances of Governor Jindal and Senator Rossi.
There is no perfect choice, I am comfortable with my choice. Now, before you attack Governor Gregoire, how did Senator Rossi do in 1989?
1) Gregoire was not in a sorority in 1989. Good lord, as a supposed PhD you are a disgrace. And yes, in ALL aspects, even on the internet I expect a PhD to adhere to strict academic standards befitting such a title. I especially expect such conduct of a PhD in Education even more so as people learn their habits, such as fact checking, more from everyday interactions that formal schooling. As a supposed education major, you should know that.
As shown in this article the Gregoire racist sorority incident occurred in 1966, NOT 1989.
From the article:
When 19-year-old Christine O'Grady joined Kappa Delta at the University of Washington in 1966, the Southern-based sorority still barred its doors to women who were not white and Christian.
So when you ask a question based upon a false premise, you shouldn't be surprised it isn't answered. EXAMPLE: Have you eaten any more children again for breakfast WVH?
"He has something going for him that Senator Rossi won't have, a population that is tired of decades of corruption. The dems will not do Senator Rossi any favors, no matter how charming he is. One of the key elements of his transportation plan is the 520 bridge eight lanes which goes through Montlake. Ain't going to happen. There is a huge difference between the circumstances of Governor Jindal and Senator Rossi."
Well it may be true that the population is not yet tired of decades of Democrat corruption, I'll grant you that. I guess I am just an optimist on that point then. I hope it won't take 43 people being squished under the viaduct to wake them up.
Where would we be today, if Martin Luther King looked at the landscape of America and said to himself "Look at all the opposition to equality for black people. I better give up." And what if John Kennedy said "Look how far ahead of us the Russians are in space. We had better not even try to go to the moon. We should just give up". You have defeated yourself before you have even started. Is that the Gregoire theme, give up before you even try? Well that certainly explains a LOT about her.
Posted by: Like a duck on April 27, 2008 01:08 AM1. As a supporter of Senator Rossi, how did he do in the 60s or 1989 on the race issue? You want to accuse Governor Gregoire, so how did Senator Rossi do, if he was faced with similiar issues?
Care to answer?
You allege that Govenor Gregoire lacks the character which you see evident in Senator Rossi, can you highlight the differences?
2. Unfortunately, Dr. king is not with us, so we don't know what he would do, do we? We do know that you haven't answered any questions as a surrogate for Senator Rossi. It used to be the last refuge of a scoundral was religion, often now, the first refuge of those who have difficulty with race issues is to quote Dr. King or theorize what he would do or say.
3. Does it matter whether the date was 1989 or 1960, if you had anything that would bolster your position, you would have presented it? So in the 1960s, the 1970s, the 1980s, the 1990s, 2000, 2008, has Senator Rossi done anything to distinguish himself from Governor Gregoire's lapse as president of her sorority? In other words, did he do or act differently, particularly since it was the 60s, that is 40 years ago. I spotted you an advantage of the date of 1989, you couldn't come up with anything, could you?
The answer does not depend upon your education, it is simply a question of what Senator Rossi has done that is different from Governor Gregoire.
I am more comfortable with my choice of Governor Gregoire. The game those supporting Senator Rossi are playing is that their candidate is superior, just as are the supporters of Governor Gregoire are convinced she is superior. She will win and this time, it won't be close. Nice chatting with you.
Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 01:46 AMDino Rossi served in the Washington State Senate from 1996 - 2004. He unsuccessfully ran for Governor of Washington in 2004.
Religion:
Party: Republican Party
Born: Oct 15, 1959
http://www.politicalbase.com/people/dino-rossi/17225/
The appropriate comparison to Governor Gregoire would have been either 1979 or 1989, don't you think? So do you have any answers to my questions?
Thought so.
I am happy with my endorsement, probably as you are with yours.
To my knowledge, he never joined a fraternity that barred black people. Do you have any evidence to the contrary? Well, do you? For once in your life, actually answer a question please.
Trying to deflect the spotlight from Gregoire, who we KNOW failed the character test, won't make your choice any better. You want a candidate who we KNOW failed the character test not only in 1966, but in 2008 as well. She has been failing it for the past four years by her inaction on critical issue of the day. Life or death issues.
"The appropriate comparison to Governor Gregoire would have been either 1979 or 1989, don't you think? So do you have any answers to my questions?
Thought so."
What significance does 1979 or 1989 play with Rossi? Nothing in the link even mentions those dates. Either post what it is you think those dates have to do with Rossi or stop mentioning them. Really, I'd expect a PhD to be able to actually provide a coherent and cogent argument in support of their candidate and not a bunch of nonsensical hand waiving.
So I ask you directly, what has 1979 or 1989 got to do with Rossi?
Posted by: Like a duck on April 27, 2008 11:07 AM
1966
The first Kwanzaa is celebrated by Maulana Karenga, the chair of Black Studies at California State University, Long Beach
The Zodiac killer kills his first victim, 18-year old Cheri Jo Bates, in Riverside, California.
James Meredith, civil rights activist, is shot while trying to march across Mississippi.
Christine O'Grady joins exclusive suthern sorority that bars people who aren't black and Chrisitian.
Seven year old Dino Rossi invites his black neighbor friend over to play twister and watch the Gemini space missions on TV.
1996 Dino was elected to the State Senate, representing the 5th Legislative District.
While serving in the State Senate from 1997 to 2003, he helped lead a variety of bills through the legislative process including:
--The "Mary Johnson Act" - requiring ignition interlock devices on vehicles of chronic DUI offenders;
--The "Dane Rempfer Bill" - punishing drivers who flee the scene of an accident; and
--The "Two Strikes and You're Out" law - sending criminals who rape and molest children to jail for life after their second conviction.
He also worked to fund the Issaquah salmon hatchery, securing more than $5 million to keep it operational.
Ultimately, Dino became a leader on state budget issues and was the Chairman of the Senate Ways and Means Committee in 2003 when the state faced the largest dollar deficit in history.
In this leadership position, Dino worked across party lines to balance the state budget without raising taxes, while still protecting the most vulnerable.
For this effort he received six different awards from the developmentally disabled community for protecting their funding - proving that it is possible to be fiscally responsible and still have a social conscience.
2000
Gregoire's office fails to file documents on time in an appeal of a record $17.8 million personal-injury verdict against Washington state. The state is held liable for the judgement.
2002, during a wrongful death lawsuit against the state, Gregoire does not detect an error in jury instructions; the state was eventually hit with a $22.4 million judgment as a result of that lawsuit.
Governor Gregoire is older than Senator Rossi, Dr. King, who you claim to admire was marching in the 60s and Seantor Rossi was born in 1959. The problem is you are comparing people who grew up in different generations.
You said:
"To my knowledge, he never joined a fraternity that barred black people. Do you have any evidence to the contrary? Well, do you? For once in your life, actually answer a question please."
If Senator Rossi was born in 1959, he would be 20 in 1979 or college age. In 1989, he would be 30. You accuse Governor Gregoire of making bad choices while she was a young woman. So, what choices did Senator Rossi make when he was a young man? Were they better than Senator Gregoire's?
a. Did he or does he belong to any organizations that exclude people on the basis of race or religion?
b. Has he resigned from an organization because of exclusionary policies?
I can't answer the question for you as I don't know Senator Rossi's background as well as you claim to.
Now, you have criticized Governor Gregoire for choices she made as a young woman, do you know what Senator Rossi was doing at a comparable age?
How can I answer your question, you are the one that supposedly knows enough about Rossi to say what he would or would not do. I do feel sorry for the guy, if you and the boys are typical of his supporters, that is his biggest problem, you.
Now, let's review.
a. Rossi was born in 1959
b. The Civil Rights struggle Timeline is:
Civil Rights Timeline
Milestones in the modern civil rights movement
by Borgna Brunner and Elissa Haney
1954 1960 1964 1967 1968 1971 1988 1991 2003 2007
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/civilrightstimeline1.html
I understand that Senator Rossi is a very smart guy, but he was making choices on civil rights issues when he was what, four or five?
So, if you know anything in his background that shows he was confronted with similiar issues to Governor Gregoire when he was a young man, what are the issues and how did he react? It wouldn't be an exact comparison as he grew up in a different society.
No, Ducky, you and the boys are the ones who always blow smoke. So, why don't you answer the question?
As a hunter and fisherman, Rossi has actually visited the remote wild areas of our beautiful state. He has walked the trails and fished the rivers and lakes. His Tlingit Alaskan Native heritage gives him special insight into the importance of maintaining the environment while his business experience gives him an understanding of the importance it plays in our economy. He is the best candidate to find the balance between the two as he has experience with both.
Rossi hasn't lived on the government dime all his life as has Gregoire. He has run a successful business and knows how dictates from bureaucrats ignorant of small business can harm them. He also knows that protecting the environment is good business. That is why, he has proposed eliminating sales tax on purchases of hybrid, electric, and alternative-fuel vehicles for the next 10 years. This will bring those vehicles closer to the budgets of average working class people, not just rich liberals. After all, shouldn't everyone be allowed to afford an environmentally friendly vehicle? Such vehicles shouldn't be an elitist status symbol, but rather the everyday vehicles of the common man. You know, the people the Democrats used to say they represented.
If the state wants us all to be environmentally friendly, Dino realizes that the state itself must set an example. This is called leadership. That is why Dino proposes converting state government vehicles to hybrid, plug-in electric, and alternative-fuel cars by 2015.
If the Democrats even cared, why haven't they converted all state vehicles by now? They held the governorship for the past 24 years.
Posted by: Like a duck on April 27, 2008 11:59 AM1. You said:
"Seven year old Dino Rossi invites his black neighbor friend over to play twister and watch the Gemini space missions on TV."
Do you have a citation for this?
Kids quite often don't have the prejudices of those older. What would be interesting is his relationships in college and beyond.
2. Apparently, we have dueling comments, here are the specific questions I asked you:
If Senator Rossi was born in 1959, he would be 20 in 1979 or college age. In 1989, he would be 30. You accuse Governor Gregoire of making bad choices while she was a young woman. So, what choices did Senator Rossi make when he was a young man? Were they better than Senator Gregoire's?
a. Did he or does he belong to any organizations that exclude people on the basis of race or religion?
b. Has he resigned from an organization because of exclusionary policies?
I can't answer the question for you as I don't know Senator Rossi's background as well as you claim to.
3. Governor Gregoire is an attorney, Senator Rossi is in real estate, do you know anything about this situation?
From the Sep 30 - Oct 6, 2004 issue News
No Sale
Rossi's Rags-to-Riches Story Includes a Convicted Felon
by Sandeep Kaushik
Ryan Schierling
DINO ROSSI Edits his story line.Republican candidate Dino Rossi has used his rags-to-riches biography as a central selling point in his bid to become the next governor of Washington State. Rossi tells his story freely and often: a boy whose dad supported a wife and seven children on a schoolteacher's salary, who then worked his way through Seattle University in part by sweeping floors at the Space Needle, and who started out in life with $200 and made his fortune as a commercial real estate salesman, buying his first apartment building at the tender age of 25. Elected to the state senate in 1996, he eventually ended up chairing the powerful Senate Ways and Means Committee.
It's a great story, devoid of blemishes and moral ambiguities, a glossy, uplifting Horatio Alger tale where a little gumption and hard work are all it took to get ahead in life. It is the American Dream personified. And it makes for a great political pitch.
There's just one problem: Rossi is not telling the whole story. His first apartment building, for instance, was bought from a company where Rossi worked, a company that turned out to have a notorious track record of defrauding clients.
What Rossi leaves out--where and how he got his start in business--might put his success in a less flattering light. In fact, Rossi's story is a more nuanced tale. Rossi started out at a real estate company that engaged in fraudulent business practices and went bankrupt, and whose president, whom Rossi followed to other firms, was eventually indicted by a federal grand jury and sent to prison...."
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=19430
Care to answer any of the questions I posed? I went hunting and fishing a couple of times with my Dad. It is highly OVER, OVER RATED. I much prefer a spa with cable.
So, care to answer about Senator Rossi's associations and the real estate question?
Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 12:12 PMI've done neither the hunting NOR the spa. What a priveledges life you must leave...which of course give lie to your victimhood.
Kisses, Rags.
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on April 27, 2008 12:30 PMGregoire became PRESIDENT of that racist sorority and when she left it STILL excluded black women.
To my knowledge Rossi never knowingly joined up with any organization that excluded people based upon their race or religion. I suspect that as the grandson of a Tlingit Native Alaskan, he was already familiar with the sad state of discrimination in America through his Tlingit Grandmother.
"a. Did he or does he belong to any organizations that exclude people on the basis of race or religion?"
Not to my knowledge. Contrast this with Gregoire, who knowingly joined such an organization and even became its president.
"b. Has he resigned from an organization because of exclusionary policies?"
Non sequitor. If part a is untrue, then part b is irrelevant.
"Governor Gregoire is an attorney, Senator Rossi is in real estate, do you know anything about this situation?"
I am not sure what you mean by 'situation'. Gregoire is an attorney that ended up costing us well over $40 MILLION in judgements because faulty work.
It is curious though how you are willing to give the young Gregoire a pass on knowingly throwing in with a racist organization, even excelling in it to become its president, and yet cast aspersions on a young Rossi for being a real estate agent who unknowingly had a corrupt boss at the top of the organization. There is a difference there. One goes in KNOWING, the other goes in UNKNOWING. Yet Rossi never supported an organization excluding people based upon their race or religion. As a descendent of the TLINGIT people, he probably understood the negative effects of racism through his TLINGIT grandmother.
By your logic, every person that ever worked at Enron was a crook. By your logic, every person that ever worked in the government under Nixon, from the secretary down to the janitor was a crook. By carrying your logic to its ridiculous extreme, Gregoire herself must be a crook. For if one starts with your thesis that Republicans are crooks, and applies your principle that everyone working for a crook is a crook, then Gregoire, who served under Slade Gorton as assitant attorney general(a Republican and therefore a crook in your book), is also a crook.
Once again, it shows your true liberal orthodoxy and debunks the myth that you are an independent. Quack quack.
Finally, what you conveniently left out of your Stranger article (and their oh so academic rigor [tthhhp] ) was this:
When others at Imperial acted as if Heide had done nothing wrong, and indicated they intended to rehire him after his stint in prison, Rossi felt he "had to get out of here," Lane says. On March 10, 1992--in the midst of his first political campaign--Rossi moved on to "cleaner pastures," registering as a salesman at Diesse Commercial Real Estate, where he felt "such a relief to be at a well-run company." He moved in 1993 to Scott Real Estate, where he is still registered.
As for Rossi's long affiliation with Heide, "Dino tends to see the best in everyone," Lane says. She adds that over his career in business, Rossi has never been sued.
So yes, Dino does try to see the best in everyone. I guess if that bans him from ever becoming Governor in your book, that will just have to be your verdict. That says more about YOU than Dino in my book.
Posted by: Like a duck on April 27, 2008 12:39 PMMaybe you should come to the spa with me, then you wouldn't be fat either.
Now, as for the hunting and fishing, you obviously didn't grow up in the Pacific Northwest, I did. Hunting and fishing is BIG around here will all types of folks.
As for the spa, you have to be able to get through the door. Have you called Jenny yet?
Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 12:42 PMYou asked me if Rossi ever had a character test. Now come to think of it he did.
When he learned that Imperial intended to rehire Heide when he was released, he immediately resigned.
Contrast this to Gregoire, who chose to stay with her racist sorority, even climbing the ladder to become its president. When she left, it still excluded black women, so she did not change it one bit. There isn't really an evidence she ever tried to change it.
Posted by: Like a duck on April 27, 2008 12:44 PMI can't afford cable myself no have I ever had a spa treatment. I do prefer being in nature, hunting, fishing or simply enjoying the beautiful heritage of our unique state. Nowhere else in the US can you go from desert to rainforest in the same state. I feel sorry for you that you are so out of tune with mother earth that you reject spending time in her midst. How sad.
Posted by: Like a duck on April 27, 2008 12:50 PMCould you possibly live in Arlington?
1. This is what I said about the real estate situation:
"3. Governor Gregoire is an attorney, Senator Rossi is in real estate, do you know anything about this situation?"
I simply asked what you knew. There is nothing wrong with Senator Rossi or anyone seeing the best in others, you obviously need to spend more time around him, you haven't picked up that trait.
2. Now here is the full article on Kappa Delta.
You say, TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE Senator Rossi has no similiar incident. In other words, you don't know.
Has anyone asked?
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002012883_guvsorority.html
Seeing the best in everyone does ban anyone from anything. Having lame supporters who don't see the best in others will probably lose the candidate support.
3. Ducky, people have different preferences, many in my family love to hunt and fish. I don't. I prefer the theater, symphony, opera, and ballet. I suppose by your logic, I should criticize you if you don't.
The biggest problem Senator Rossi has is his supporters. Read the Seattle Times article. The period of the 60s was a transition period. Senator Rossi resigning from a job with a potential felon on aboard is admirable, but not the same.
Aww come one sweet cheeks... have the balls to SAY it. Show us who you REALLY are, little black victim.
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on April 27, 2008 01:23 PMAnd you better damned well hope that the pals you're trying to impress with the "the theater, symphony, opera, and ballet", at the queens campaign and those who you claim "consult" with you, never, ever search your full name, doc... I'm sure they'll be mighty surprised at who you really are in the glow of your computer monitor, as evidenced by your posting here at SP.... and not pleasantly so.
Give it a try, sweet cheeks.
I did.
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on April 27, 2008 02:05 PMSo you agree Rossi will be a good influence on this state. I agree.
"Seeing the best in everyone does ban anyone from anything. "
I disagree. I think seeing the best in others is a desirable trait and in fact does not "ban anyone from anything".
"Ducky, people have different preferences, many in my family love to hunt and fish. I don't. I prefer the theater, symphony, opera, and ballet. I suppose by your logic, I should criticize you if you don't."
First off, I do get to the theater on occasion. So there is nothing wrong with enjoying those activities in my book, though I do find opera and ballet a bit elitist but that's just me. But we are talking about who will run the government, and specifically who will direct the policies of the Fish and Wildlife department as well as many other state agencies that directly affect activities such as fishing and hunting and the environment. I am unaware of an overarching state agency that regulates operand and ballet or even theater. Do you know of such a state government agency that I may have missed?
And whomever is the next governor of this state will have to be knowledgeable about our unique natural environment and how to preserve it without choking off our economy. That is where hunting and fishing experience comes in and the superior knowledge of environmental stewardship Rossi possesses given his upbringing and TLINGIT heritage.
Don't worry quackie, if there is ever a Washington State Department of Ballet, Opera and Theater, and you are running for head or it, you'll get my vote!
If only the author would follow her own advice.
Posted by: Like a duck on April 27, 2008 02:29 PMFor full disclosure, when touting Gregoire, you should mention that you are a fellow attorney. Like cops protecting their own, I wouldn't expect any difference from lawyers.
Posted by: Like a duck on April 27, 2008 02:45 PMYour cover is blown. Go elsewhere and gather your nixonian enemy's list. You are nothing but a sleazy lawyer doing opposition research for Gregoire.
Posted by: Like a duck on April 27, 2008 03:02 PMWHAT IS WRONG with you? Now you think Rove runs the world? Wake up lady, Rove is not that powerful or is anyone else.
Man I tell you. The last few weeks you have been on a full blown rant about NOTHING!
Gezz take a few days off.
Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on April 27, 2008 03:10 PMOne of your students thought so:
"Just a note....OE200 w/ Wilda Heard is really easy. You dont even need to go to class. Just read the book and take the test. She gives a review sheet and the test is multiple choice. If I remember correctly the grading is based on a midterm, final, and group presentation/report. Hope this helps!"
Posted by: Like a duck on April 27, 2008 03:15 PM"Washington State Bar Member found gathering dossiers on bloggers for Gregoire campaign".
Or perhaps this:
"University of Washington Law professor caught gathering dossiers on local blogs for Gregoire campaign."
1. Ducky
a. Are you the student that I flunked because their paper was so lousy? Oh well. I still would have flunked you. Did you ever answer the questions about Senator Rossi? Goodness, you folks are putting a lot of time into my dossier and you have the nerve to complaint about me seeking a photo of Rags with Senator Rossi, what are you scared of, I might find one?
b. Now, you said this:
". The only thug here is Wilda Heard, Attorney and a Yale Law Graduate gathering dossiers on SP blog posters. I don't care to hear another damn word from you Wilda about thug"
Oh, take an aspirin. Have I every posted anything about Rickie and the boys? Sorry, I am not on Governor Gregoire's payroll, nor do I have a position with her campaign. I do plan to volunteer, because I think she is the better candidate. Oh, I plan to continue posting. You are the thugs, Ducky. So, get your barf bag out.
Because YOU and the boys are the thugs, you can't imagine that a citizen would read YOUR postings and conclude the better candidate is Governor Gregoire. I don't need to be put on the payroll to come to that conclusion. Just look at the rantings of Senator Rossi's supporters and how they campaign and respond to issues compared to the supporters of Governor Gregoire. Now, sleazy, lawyer, I think not. I only practice for non-profits and do probono work. What are you doing Ducky to make the world a better place?
Dude, your outing is right out of Rove 101. What comes next, I kick puppies?
2. Rags
Rags, you really mean Little Black Victim when you say LBV, so why can't I use SOBFF for Stupid Old FAT fart? You said this:
" I prefer the theater, symphony, opera, and ballet. Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 01:03 PM
And you better damned well hope that the pals you're trying to impress with the "the theater, symphony, opera, and ballet", at the queens campaign and those who you claim "consult" with you, never, ever search your full name, doc... I'm sure they'll be mighty surprised at who you really are in the glow of your computer monitor, as evidenced by your posting here at SP.... and not pleasantly so.
Give it a try, sweet cheeks.
Rags, unlike you, people know that I am an indie and I examine both parties. I don't have to vote for any one. Now, your perception of Blacks is that they are pimps, prostitutes, and drug dealers. So, the fact that ANY Black person would go to the opera means they are trying to impress some one, right. I would put my postings against yours any day. I haven't said any of the bigoted stuff you did. Nor will I ever. Yes I am looking for a photo of you with Rossi.
Who I am in the glow of my computer moniter is:
a. some one who wants competition in education.
b. does not want this to be a one-party state as one party states no matter the party lead to corruption.
c. Is not a member of either party as the parties promote uniformity and stifle solutions. I am pragmatic.
d. Does not agree with you and the rest of the Ayn Rand followers on a variety of issues, particularly altruism.
d. Believes that blogs are the new public square and people of good will have to get in and fight a lot of the bigots who post there. Because blogs are read by many, people should challenge the prevailing opinion.
So, Rags, under the glow of the computer monitor or the glow of the sheet, who are you?
Guess what, one of the great things about being an adult is one gets to make their own hours. I can eat all the ice cream I want. I won't do that because then I would be fat like Rags.
Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 04:24 PMI think you are a decent human being. Unfortunately, Rove's influence is very deeply felt in republican party circles. There is nothing wrong with playing hardball politics, but subverting the institutions of government in order to get a win is another thing. You should research the Sieligman case. I believe this site has many principled conservatives who read and post here. Rove's philosophy, like that of Roy Cohn before him is not going to help the cause of principled conservatives.
This will remain a one-party state if Rove's followers dominate.
Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 04:29 PMYou said this:
"Are you the student that I flunked because their paper was so lousy? Oh well. I still would have flunked you."
Goodness no. But according to the student quoted, you are quite the pushover. It sounds like you don't even bother to put in the effort. And based on your online responses, I can see the same characteristics. Heck if I was a slacker law student, I'd go straight to the Dean's office and demand your class. There is nothing a slacker student likes more than a slacker teacher.
You said this:
"Did you ever answer the questions about Senator Rossi?"
I answered all the questions. But I am answering no more counselor. You tell Gregoire, if she has questions, to ask them herself and stop sending her attorney thugs over here to intimidate people.
You said this:
" Goodness, you folks are putting a lot of time into my dossier and you have the nerve to complaint about me seeking a photo of Rags with Senator Rossi, what are you scared of, I might find one?"
Your "dossier" is nothing but public information available on the internet. Try google. Are you ashamed of your association with the Washington State bar Association as chair of the Lawyers' Fund for Client Protection Committee? Really counselor, you of all people know that much more information is available via FOIA requests than what gets on the internet. Michael Steele knows how you Democrats do opposition research.
You said:
"Sorry, I am not on Governor Gregoire's payroll, nor do I have a position with her campaign. I do plan to volunteer, because I think she is the better candidate. Oh, I plan to continue posting."
Oh that is so much BS. You are on Gregoire's payroll or perhaps pro-bono counselor? Hoping for a sweet assignment in her administration as payback?
Rossi doesn't have to hire lawyer thugs like you Wilda Heard, attorney and Gregoire confidant.
You asked if I was worried about you getting a picture of Rag with Rossi. Well counselor, that would imply you already had Rags' personal information as well as a photo in your dossier on him. So I guess we will take that as a yes then.
No Wild Heard, I will not stop posting. Please say hello to Christine and the gang at your next campaign meeting with her. Tell her we are not intimidated by you or any other thugs she may send our way. Free speech is still allowed in this country and we intend to see that it stays that way.
Your moniker is now thuggie Wilda Heard. Thug thug.
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AND THE CHEESE STANDS ALONE.
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on April 27, 2008 05:36 PMNo, I do not want a position in Governor Gregoire's administration, nor do I work for her.
So, we can both continue posting, since we both believe in free speech, right?
Now let's get to some issues:
1. I do not approve of the way Michael Steele was treated. That example is one of the reasons I don't belong to a party. This country would be better off had he been elected.
2. Rags, is responsible for the remarks he makes like Black people are pimps, prostitutes, and pimps. Calling people you disagree with little Black Victim certainly isn't going to help outreach. If he is connected with Senator Rossi, then that becomes a decision as to whether campaign donations and friendship outweigh any potential damage. Hey, doesn't that sound like Senator Obama's Rev. Wright "issue?"
3. Ducky said this:
"Did you ever answer the questions about Senator Rossi?"
I answered all the questions. But I am answering no more counselor. You tell Gregoire, if she has questions, to ask them herself and stop sending her attorney thugs over here to intimidate people.
No, Ducky, you answered nothing. I agree that Governor Gregoire was not a profile in courage 40 years ago. You admit that you don't know if Senator Rossi has ever faced a similiar situation.
You never answered whether he has ever been in a position to resign from a bigoted organization.
You just can't be honest and say you don't know.
It could be that he has acted differently, but in reality, you just don't know.
4. I never said that I did not want to engage in debate with you. Your team began with the first name stuff when I began asking questions about Dr. Paul. I still have an interesting e-mail from a Jennifer Molton about education. The thuggery came from your side Ducky. Anyhow, it is better to discuss the issues as I believe that a full discussion will convince indies and non-aligneds to vote for Governor Gregoire. She will win by a wide enough margin this time to shut you up.
5. Since you have my full dossier, you know that I am at the stage of my life where folks seek to make the world better. I am not on the payroll of Governor Gregoire, nor do I want a political job.
Why, look at yourself, Ducky, you are the thug, you accuse others of being. You, like Rove will use any means necessary to get what you think is a win. Did that start with stuffing the ballots in some baseball contest. Wasn't the result thrown out? So much for politics.
I am a citizen who honestly believes that of the two candidates running for governor, she is the better choice. No, I don't have to investigate, harass, or intimidate others into that conclusion.
I am LOL though, seems like Senator Rossi has his own Rev. Wright problem with Rags. Are you shocked, simply shocked or outraged or is it just business as usual for you and the boys?
Do I get say shrug, shrug or do we alternate with thug, thug?
Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 05:37 PMI said YOU were a victim with your constant whining, I said YOU were an attention whore and I said YOU were the victim of race pimps.
I guess we can add LIAR to the list, eh, little black victim?
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AND THE CHEESE STANDS ALONE
I have no official position in any campaign and I just plan to volunteer. I don't want to spend all my time in politics, but I do want to do my part. I just plan to doorbell, hopefully with your picture and quotes. I could start off with this man referrs to me as Little Black Victim and ALL Blacks as, well you get the picture. You have a problem though. You seek to be a mover and a shaker. Now, I know that you were shocked, I tell you shocked by Rev. Wright. The question to you is this. When Senator Rossi gets a wiff of your comments that Blacks are pimps, prostitutes, and drug dealers, does he:
a. take more campaign contributions and wait for some one to point out your comments before throwing you under the bus or
b. throw you under the bus immediately and claim the high road.
Isn't this the same problem faced by Senator Obama with Rev. Wright?
Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 05:47 PMWell, we'll just have to take your word for that now won't we...for what little it's worth, as you've been repeatedly proven a liar.
hopefully with your picture and quotes
Except for the little problem you have of who I am and whether or not and/or how involved I am.. or am not.
You seek to be a mover and a shaker.
And you know this.. HOW? Oh that's right, your vivid but small imagination that allows you to imagine/invent the worst about others then LIE.
When Senator Rossi gets a wiff of your comments that Blacks are pimps, prostitutes, and drug dealers
You missed the relevant part, little black victim:
YOU are the pathetic victim with your constant whining, YOU are the attention whore and YOU are the victim of the race pimps.... as far a whether or not you're dealing drugs... well one could wonder how exactly it is you seem to be constantly posting all hours of the day and night and therefore, rarely 'working'...
Nice try on playing the race card..again...poorly.
It's interesting that while you make idle "threats" with no actual information to back them up, you fail to realize we very easily COULD ... and might already have... send your hate-filled screeds along with documentation and your name to the queens campaign... I doubt you'll get a letter of welcome.
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AND THE CHEESE STANDS ALONE
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on April 27, 2008 06:15 PMProven a repeated liar. Really. Now you can do better than that. If you are not involved in the Rossi campaign, then you have nothing to worry about. You can do what I plan to do, spend a couple of weekends doorbelling for your candidate. You can go home tired, but feeling you did your little part for democracy.
If you are an advisor or steering committee type, if the internal polling says that Senator Rossi can win with Eastern Washington and smaller towns in Western Washington and rural areas, then you are secure. We both know that pols of all persuasions live and die by polls, its their security blanket. But, it the internals show that he needs to pick-up votes in Seattle, King County, Tacoma, and Pierce County, I would worry if Senator Rossi asks you to take a bus ride with him.
Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 06:27 PMOne further thing, go ahead and send my dossier to the Gregoire campaign, I'll be the most vetted doorbeller in history. LOL. I have no worries on that regard as I am not seeking a top position. Not much is required to get a job doorbelling. YOU are Senator Rossi's Reverend Wright.
You might want to contact Rev. Wright about how pols handle friendship. LOL.
Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 06:33 PMSHOW ME, little black victim, SHOW ALL OF US.
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AND THE CHEESE STANDS ALONE
Stop the act already. We're on to you Wilda. I will repeat you job role on the Gregoire campaign in every post. I know you hate it because it puts thugs like you in context. We've seen how thugs like you do opposition research on good people like Condoleeza and Michael Steele.
You said this:
"No, Ducky, you answered nothing. I agree that Governor Gregoire was not a profile in courage 40 years ago. You admit that you don't know if Senator Rossi has ever faced a similiar situation.
You never answered whether he has ever been in a position to resign from a bigoted organization.
You just can't be honest and say you don't know.
It could be that he has acted differently, but in reality, you just don't know."
First off he hasn't to my knowledge. So trying to draw some moral equivalence isn't going to excuse your boss Gregoire. And I already pointed out that Rossi DID face a similar situation in his decision to leave Imperial when he learned they intended to rehire Hiede after he got out of jail.
Now stop the doublespeak and tell your boss Gregoire we are not afraid of any of her attorney thugs she sends over here to do opposition research.
You are the thug you accuse everyone else of being thuggie. You are a lawyer who could file a frivolous lawsuit against anyone here to shut them up and bury them in paperwork all for very little more than court filing costs. All the while the poor schmuck you seek to muzzle has to pay some other lawyer half his life savings. We know how thugs like you operate Wilda.
And never in a million years will you convince anyone here that a Yale Law School graduate is going to spend day an night on a conservative oriented blog. Such people as you could give a damn about the little people who don't go to the opera or the ballet but instead sit home at night watching TV as the only entertainment they can afford. No such person with a silver spoon like you thuggie would ever post a blog response at 2 AM.
You are well versed in all the campaign lingo, "advisor or steering committee type", yeah right, tell us again how you aren't on the Gregoire payroll.
Is intimidation still something that can get a lawyer disbarred these days or has Gregoire arranged immunity for you thuggie?
Rags is wrong. You are not a liar...you are a pathetic liar.
Posted by: Like a duck on April 27, 2008 06:45 PMHow limited your world must be. Now, I know that Rags will say that I am showing off. You probably have never thought about having friends all over the world who actually live in different time zones, what a concept.
Since you have my dossier, guess what duckie, I have been involved in politics. You know, like you. I got out of active volunteering because there are too many amoral people in it, you know, like you. I only volunteer now for candidates and issues I believe in.
As for filing a lawsuit, got better things to do. This is a hobby. You are correct about one thing, this is the new public square, so people that want to oppose the lame and the stupid, do have to get online.
Oh, please, please send my dossier to the Gregoire campaign. Saves me time in filling out a lame application to be a doorbeller.
I suggest you make friends in different parts of the world, it might expand your limited world view.
Thug, Thug or is it shrug, shrug.
Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 06:55 PMIf I were you, I wouldn't be too hard on the Rev.
He might be able to help you cope with rejection, if it comes your way. As you know, whether you feel the love will depend on how the polls are going. One thing about Rossi, he doesn't trow ashtrays like Senator Clinton.
Oh I already know you are "in politics" thuggie. Is that the codeword for your intimidation racket these days? I am quite sure you have thugged for Gregoire in the past as well as other Democrats. No one goes to Yale for the skull and bones society alone. And no Yale graduate spends day and night monitoring public blogs, but not all public blogs, just the opposition blogs. Funny how you don't have a presence on the HA blog. Of course why would you? You are a Gregoire thug and there is no reason to troll the liberal blogs, they are the true believers.
Gregoire would laugh if I sent her the pathetic snippets from the internet. She probably has her own DNC dossier that goes into your thuggery and intimidation in great detail. If I had to guess I would say you probably did pro-bono work defending ACORN in court when they got caught fraudulently registering nonexistent new Democrat voters.
You said:
"I suggest you make friends in different parts of the world, it might expand your limited world view."
Is that code for shut up or you'll end up on a boat to shanghai?
Tell Gregoire we are tired of her lapdog. If she wants to chat, she can get online herself.
Posted by: Like a duck on April 27, 2008 07:10 PMUsually when folks have to brag... they are really wishing.
I suspect those "friends all over the world who actually live in different time zones" are chat room buddies in The Victims for the Re-election of Racist Governors chat spot.
Rags, Stupid old BIG FAT Fart -
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AND THE CHEESE STANDS ALONE
You said:
"No one goes to Yale for the skull and bones society alone."
You really need to get out. Skull and Bones is a private eating society. Yes, you would benefit from knowing folks all over the world. I would suggest that you make friends all over the world. Just curious, have you done a lot of traveling?
As I said before, send anything you want as I am a private citizen. Now, are you in any official position in the republican party, like chair? Are you in an official position with the Rossi campaign? The point is you folks are very sensitive about ANY opposition viewpoint. I thought libertarians were for free speech or is it only free speech that agrees lockstep with their ideology?
You guys are a hoot, little ole me with my hobby as made you pee in your pants. I really didn't have any questions about Senator Rossi before, I simply thought Governor Gregoire was the better candidate and decided to support her. But, given the ferocity of your response makes me wonder what's up.
Anyhow, do you think any campaign is so stupid to have the opposition research so in the open. I do suspect that there is someone monitoring the site, but it isn't me. However, if I leading them toward points to look at, well glad to help the cause.
You really need to travel more, you are very provincial and no I didn't call you a hick, just limited in the scope of what you know.
Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 07:40 PMNow how would you know about this site:
"The Victims for the Re-election of Racist Governors chat spot."
You been online, again? LOL. that really was a good one.
Are you a tad bit worried that you will be thrown under the bus, for being you? Then that would make you, gasp, a victim. How positively delightful.
I have been plenty of places, yet there is no place on earth better than the USA and the national beauty of Washington State. Though I am sure that France is probably the place you most covet.
I am answering no more questions for Gregoire's yappy lapdog thug. Tell your boss Gregoire if she wants any questions answered to come here herself.
Unlike the liberal blogs, we won't delete her posts. We encourage open debate here.
Rossi doesn't need to have thuggish lapdog liberal attorney's like Wilda Heard harassing and intimidating people on blogs 24/7.
You are so lame, you couldn't get me BANNED so you say I am an opposition researcher. LOL, oh well, got any good tidbits to pass on? LOL
1. You said this:
"Rossi doesn't need to have thuggish lapdog liberal attorney's like Wilda Heard harassing and intimidating people on blogs 24/7."
If my comments are harassing and threatening you, dude, Rossi's a$$ets will be kicked by a wider margin than I thought.
Problem is that your side is incompetent in arguing a position, so first you attempt to get the opposition BANNED, if that doesn't work, then you attempt to smear. You are lucky that I really am not an opposition researcher on Senator Rossi's case, because I would find out what is really and truly scaring you folks. There must be something out there given your response.
You said:
"Unlike the liberal blogs, we won't delete her posts. We encourage open debate here...."
Guess you missed this gem:
March 16, 2008
NOT BANNED IN BOSTON, BANNED RIGHT HERE
NOT BANNED IN BOSTON, BANNED RIGHT HERE.
1. This comment prompted a reply from me which was deleted:
" 2 . I note for the record that Wilda, a.k.a WVH, in agreeing with Kerry's comments, also
therefore agrees with Ferraro, who WVH claims is racist, and that WVH is therefore racist.
Q.E.D.
Posted by pudge at March 15, 2008 11:09 PM
3. Wilda, I removed your lies.
Posted by pudge at March 16, 2008 12:00 AM
4. Wilda, you said to me: "As much as you personally hate me and all people of color ..."
And I will delete any more posts you make to my articles, whatever those comments say.
You are permanently banned.
Posted by pudge at March 16, 2008 12:16 AM"
Really, because I responded to statement #2. Only an inadequate intellect bans people because they can't legitimately debate them. Just like Putin and the Chinese Communists, the poster can't withstand scrutiny, so they resort to bullying ala Tienamen Square. Ever met an ex KGB or Chinese Communist head with a sense of humor? Putin is surely one of the least controlling guys around (sarcasm) and probably one of the most despicable. I stand by the comment as much as you personally hate me and all people of color. That doesn't happen to be a lie.
http://soundpolitics.com/public/2008/03/not_banned_in_boston_banned_ri.html
Wasn't that the removal of a comment. The fact of the matter is this site would like to think it promotes free discussion, until some one challenges the prevailing "group think," then you fold like a cheap deck of cards.
I really don't know what is out there to be discovered, but I am sure the real opposition researchers are all over it like velcro.
2. Your side is totally incompetant and can't take the scrutiny of genuine debate. I now know why many of you idiots hate Mc Cain, he gets that the GOP can't be about business as usual:
Sunday, April 27, 2008 - Page updated at 12:00 AM
David S. Broder / Syndicated columnist
Change, GOP style: McCain reaches out to Dixie voters
"....The message to Republicans could not be plainer: In a time when the public has soured on President Bush and the GOP, the old appeals are just not enough. To have a chance, Republican candidates have to expand their reach and reframe their message.
McCain for one seems to have grasped that warning. Over the past week, as he toured the South from Selma to Little Rock, he clearly was signaling a shift from the traditional GOP way of courting Dixie voters.
In Selma, McCain praised the African Americans who, more than four decades ago, were clubbed and beaten by Alabama state troopers at the start of their anti-segregation protest march to Montgomery. He vowed, in their memory, to bring his campaign -- and the publicity it attracts -- to the "forgotten places" of America, and to help the families in those communities if he becomes president.
At other stops, including the Kentucky hamlet where Lyndon Johnson launched the War on Poverty and in New Orleans' hurricane-obliterated Lower Ninth Ward, McCain condemned the performance of the Bush administration and offered his own free-market ideas for creating more jobs, improved schools and better health care.
The Democrats were quick to call his message hypocritical, noting, for example, that McCain had opposed making a national holiday of Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday. That's a fair fight.
But what is incontestable is the fact that McCain sees the need for Republicans to reach beyond their past comfort level and engage the many Americans who have every reason to doubt they are anywhere on the GOP agenda...."
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2004374063_broder27.html
Now, Duckie, aren't you glad I'm a thuggish "liberal" attorney only for probono cases. You really don't want me to be a thuggish attorney looking for what you jerks are trying to hide, do you?
Well considering you don't know me, Willie black victim, NOPE.
The black victim no longer cares that no one pays attention to her few (and far between) valid points. Now it's just reacting to the black victim. Me too.. I'm absolutely guilty of it. BUT it totally marginalizes her and is clearly the impetus to make a bigger fool of herself so it's all good. I'm happy to help.
To quote Shirley McLain... quoting Larry McMurtry.. "Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah".
Oh and a note from Seattle... they thank you for warning them... they'll be on the look out for an angry black woman bearing chrissie lit.... and locking their doors.
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on April 27, 2008 08:43 PMBe careful of internal polls, if Senator Rossi needs to head to Seattle, well I hope those bus tracks don't mess up that face of yours. I honestly didn't have any idea of what you folks might be scared about. But, given the response, there is something there. Oh, well, plenty of time for some one to get the pix of you and Rossi. This has been fun.
Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 08:48 PM
B. You can scrounge, threaten, imagine all the "pix" you like, but you are 100% clueless. You can't even decide/discern if I'm male or female, nor whether I've thrown in with any candidate. you are whistling Dixie, (oooh "racist, racist", whines willie black victim!) willie back victim. We KNOW exactly who you are. So keep spitting in the wind, it's great fun watching the the blowback.
I wonder, are campaign "doorbellers" protected with public disclosure rules?
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AND THE CHEESE STANDS ALONE.. figured out what it means yet, "educator"?
LMAO
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on April 27, 2008 09:13 PMB. You can scrounge, threaten, imagine all the "pix" you like, but you are 100% clueless. You can't even decide/discern if I'm male or female, nor whether I've thrown in with any candidate. you are whistling Dixie, (oooh "racist, racist", whines willie black victim!) willie back victim. We KNOW exactly who you are. So keep spitting in the wind, it's great fun watching the the blowback.
I wonder, are campaign "doorbellers" protected with public disclosure rules?
Rags, Stupid old BIG FAT Fart -
Stupid Old FAT fart -
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Posted by: WVH on April 17, 2008 10:06 PM
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Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 04:24 PM
AND THE CHEESE STANDS ALONE.. figured out what it means yet, "educator"?
LMAO
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on April 27, 2008 09:14 PMIt doesn't matter whether you are animal, mineral, or vegetable. Attractiveness has nothing to do with it. Candidates of any persuasion just can't afford the distraction of any one on their campaign who distracts from THEIR message. Believe it or not, I have heard good things about Senator Rossi on a personal level and how he treats specific people he comes in contact with. I believe that he is a smart guy and can be respected for being a good family man. I do not know him personally, but do you geniunely think that it is his message to refer to folks as Little Black Victims? Do you think that he has read Little Black Sambo to his kids? If those things are true, you probably have nothing to worry about.
But, if you have a prominent position in his campaign, given some of your posts here, you will be outed. As much as I think that you are a jerk, IT WON'T be me. Plenty of folks of all political persuasions read this site. You and Duckie are probably correct, there is opposition research going on from both campaigns. I honestly am just poking fun at you and making you uncomfortable. You are probably right that some one else, NOT me will out you. I just like jerking your chain.
Given the way that society has changed, I take your Little Black Victim remarks as an idiot venting. Others, however, view those comments as something that can sink a campaign ship. Just ask Rev. Wright. Politics can be a nasty business, I just volunteer for things I believe in. I don't have to out you, some one else will.
Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 09:29 PMYou said:
You are so lame, you couldn't get me BANNED so you say I am an opposition researcher. LOL, oh well, got any good tidbits to pass on? LOL
No dear, I don't want you banned. I want you spewing your crap here for all to see. I just want the opportunity to put you into context as a Gregoire operative. of course you aren't "officially" on her staff. She needs plausible deniability from her thug lapdog. I am sure you scrubbed any public records that would connect you to her campaign.
You still haven't answered my question thuggie. Why don't you post over at HA if you are truly interested in both sides, independent etc? I think it is because that is a lie. I think you are a nutroots, drink deep kool-aid drinker of the left. Besides, you already admitted you were hear to monitor the people on this blog like the gestapo anyhow.
I really don't know what is out there to be discovered, but I am sure the real opposition researchers are all over it like velcro.
You mean you don't you? Go ahead give it your best shot. You have been at it for over a year anyway thuggie. We are not intimidated. Tell your boss Gregoire that.
I am wondering now what it is your side is trying to prevent, perhaps a fair election? Going for a two-fer gubernatorial selection?
Anyway lapdog, tell Gregoire to come out of the shadows and defend he largest deficit in state history, inaction on the viaduct, 33% increase in state spending and history of racial discrimination.
Posted by: Like a duck on April 27, 2008 10:07 PMWhat is lame is that you graduated from YALE LAW school and the best thing you have to do on the weekends is monitor a conservative blog. And then you call me unworldly. Bwahahahahah. Talk about LAME!
Posted by: Like a duck on April 27, 2008 10:14 PMTake an aspirin an lie down, you are hyperventilating. Dude, you are lame. I do lots of things, this little hobby is just one of them.
Now, obviously I scare the pee out of you. One of the reasons that you don't want me posting is that I challenge your lame little assumptions.
You really have nothing else than to attack based upon your own inadequacies. Many states have problems now. If it were just this state, you are correct that it might be local leadership. But, if many states have problems, looks like a failure at the very top in terms of financial policy? As for the viaduct, if Senator Rossi gets elected, he will live in interesting times.
Now you said:
"What is lame is that you graduated from YALE LAW school and the best thing you have to do on the weekends is monitor a conservative blog."
You are right that people of all sorts monitor a "conservative blog." Why, that is how one finds out about Ms. Rand, that very, very, very interesting lady and Dr. Paul. Supporters of David Duke frequent conservative blogs. The real public square is the blog. I suppose, you object to free and fair discussion as it makes it more difficult for your ideas to remain unchallenged. Like the little Bolshevik that you are, you really don't want to be challenged. So, attack all you want, loser.
One thing I have been studying lately is that compound in Texas. Let's see, isolated, strange ideology, keep the women and children isolated. I really don't have problems with homeschooling done by competant committed individuals, but some times, folks homeschool as a way of keeping total control because they are scared of the outside world. Would your wife be named Jennifer? If so, I can now understand why the personal attacks.
You really are a limited individual who can't defend any ideology, let alone conservatism. You apparently missed out on some aspect of life and are now angry. Have you considered going on Jerry Springer?
Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 10:36 PMNice try.
You're right, "Attractiveness has nothing to do with it" so why bring it up? The point is your veiled threats are like those from a noisy lame dog: you know nothing about me and more importantly have no way to know anything about me... not even my gender.... and that makes you an impotent threat.
Most of us here value our privacy and anonymity for the very reason of your kind of threats.
but do you geniunely think that it is his message to refer to folks as Little Black Victims?
Nice try.
We weren't talking about "folks". We are specifically referring to YOU.
Of course, you know that, but you find it so much more convenient to tweak it here and there for your own purposes. How very Hillary of you.
But, if you have a prominent position in his campaign, given some of your posts here, you will be outed.
In your dreams, sweet cheeks. You conveniently neglect to acknowledge that the only one ascribing me to a role in ANY campaign is YOU. Furthermore, you don't know whether I'm pro-Rossi or Rossi-neutral. You just assume the position YOU have ascribed to me from the knowledge that I despise that phony "Catholic" chrissy. Nice try, though. Unlike you, I find it unnecessary to shout my intentions or bona fides in public blogs.
and making you uncomfortable
Yours would have to be a voice or opinion I value... sorry, you simply don't fit into that category. At one time you might have, you were actually one of few I would have liked to meet, but you seriously went off the deep end.
I take your Little Black Victim remarks as an idiot venting
Take them however you please, but know they are rooted in YOUR posts about YOU. There was no reason to describe you as a victim until you repeatedly presented yourself as one; there was no reason to know you were black, until you repeatedly said your were. As far as the 'little'... well, I assume you would appreciate being described as 'little' far more than GIGANTIC, ENORMOUS, HUMONGOUS, BIG, HUGE or FAT....words unwise to describe any woman.
You've strayed too far from the reasoned person who used to post here. You've become a cartoon of another angry liberal woman .... supporting Gregoire. I doubt she needs anymore of that image.
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on April 27, 2008 10:38 PMYou are such a card. Women who support ideas you don't like are angry. Fact of the matter is there is a geniune disagreement on issues. Anger has nothing to do with it. Senator Rossi supports the administration's position on Children's Health Care, Governor Gregoire does not. That is a geniune policy difference. Didn't you post on the public blog that Nancy and I thought you were mean? That is a policy diference where I support Governor Gregoire and we already did a 500 million post on that issue.
Issues where Governor Gregoire differs from Senator Rossi are the effect of raiding the general fund for transportation. That is a policy difference. I support Governor Gregoire.
I don't care whether you say Little Black Victim or Big Fat Black Victim. Since I am not fat, go ahead and call me the fattest Black Victim in town. What will get you into trouble is your constant reference. Since I want Governor Gregoire elected, if someone ELSE outs you and sinks Senator Rossi's ship. Well and good.
I plan to give Govenor Gregoire a couple of weekends of doorbelling. I think she will win with a big margin because she will have boots on the ground. I think your loose lips won't hurt her chances, so go ahead and let it rip.
Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 10:56 PMHon - I think you are the one that needs to take an aspirin. You are delusional.
You probably get depressed looking at everyone else who graduated from Yale. John Kerry became a US senator. George W Bush probably did worse in his studies than you did and yet he is the most powerful person in the world. Wild Heard, well she just sits alone in her dark room by herself with the glow of the computer monitor typing back and forth with people who probably never even finished college let alone Yale. You must be such a disappointment to your Yale counselors. I bet alumni events are painful for you as well. All that potential and where is Wilda today? Slugging it out on the internet with working class folks on a blog.
You dodged my question as to why you don't post on HA. I am still waiting. Did I make you wet you panties when I mentioned that? Sorry. I must be onto something. You keep avoiding the question.
I have no problem with free and fair discussion. I it always you liberal thugs that want to control the debate and prevent any opposition from speaking. Just look at Al Gore. He refuses to debate anyone because he knows he will be creamed.
Just like you refuse to answer the question why you don't post at HA. That is the public square as well. A true indie would post both places to get the complete story. Only an opposition researcher would stay at only one blog.
You have no idea of what is going on in a person's life, especially a woman who is not under your control. I really feel for Jennifer, if she is your spouse. She is trapped.
Now, regarding where I am in my life, I am a happy person, unlike Jennifer who is really close to losing it.
So, Ducky, your attention needs to be directed toward home.
No, it doesn't make me wet my panties as to why I don't post at HA. The reason is, one only has so much time and you really want to run a Bolshevik operation here.
Too bad you really have no idea the quality of my life. My life keeps getting better. I know the quality of Jennifer's life, I have the e-mails. So, before you talk about how happy my life is, maybe you ought to look at home.
Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 11:17 PM"You have no idea of what is going on in a person's life, especially a woman who is not under your control. "
I got the dossier, remember? Hit a nerve did I?
Is Jennifer an imaginary friend you made up to comfort you since the pound limited you to only 5 cats?
I think Rags should go easy on you. You really are an old victim lady.
You said:
"Too bad you really have no idea the quality of my life. My life keeps getting better. "
Well dear, I am glad about that. We all thought that hip replacement surgery was going to put a dent in your internet posting. No wbe sure to drink you pediasure dear. Oh and leave the false teeth on the stand next to your bd this time so you can find them in the morning.
You said:
"I know the quality of Jennifer's life, I have the e-mails."
Now dear, I think you have your dossiers confused again. This isn't the Truman administration anymore. Use you computer dear and remember to take breaks so your arthritis won't flare up. And don't get so upset. It will increase your blood pressure.
Posted by: Like a duck on April 27, 2008 11:30 PMNo Jennifer is not an imaginary friend, do you want me to send you the e-mail or should I post it? No, I don't operate like you. But I do have Jennifer's e-mails to me. Is she related to you or not? In any event, she is one very unhappy lady. I can't imagine why living with you might make one unhappy, can you?
As for cats, the dossier must indicate that I am a dog person.
So, do you want me to send you Jennifer's e-mails tomorrow or not? I really think you should focus on the family as they say.
Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 11:42 PMIn order to send you Jennifer's emails, you really will need to provide a valid e-mail address. Unlike you, I will not post her distress and anguish and the fact that she is one very unhappy lady. I will send the e-mail to you, if you want.
Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 11:47 PMI am intelligent, funny, honest, happy, tenacious (some say stubborn), feisty, sassy, healthy, fastidious, argumentative, well read, active, interested, interesting, demanding, out-spoken, faithful, family-oriented, loyal, loving, impatient, responsible, private, kind, a good neighbor, a fair cook, inquisitive, fair-minded, intolerant of whining, unafraid, dedicated, opinionated, generous, single minded, definitely not a multi-tasker and quick. I like to sing but I can't dance. I'm long married, prefer dogs to cats and I don't suffer fools.
Not one of those descriptors will give anyone even a hint of the color of my skin, eyes or hair; not a clue of my gender, height, weight or heritage.
And that is the point.
I want to be judged on who I am, not my color. And I expect to continue to judge others the same way. When you make your color your most important trait, when you judge everything, everyone and every word through the prism of race you have become a victim of your own prison.... and you will be judged as such.
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on April 27, 2008 11:51 PMOf course you can't dance, you are Caucasian. In the interest of PC, that was a joke and not to be taken as a slur. In any event, we are not bringing back disco so you can make a fool of yourself.
Did you catch Robert Mak, there is a rice shortage and I love Asian food. I am heartsick and going to bed.
Posted by: WVH on April 27, 2008 11:57 PMAm I?
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on April 28, 2008 12:02 AMSorry, but I am not interested in your imaginary friend. It is sad really, that a bitter old gal such as yourself, a Yale graduate no less, has to spend weekend after weekend, day and night slavishly pecking away in lonely darkness with only the glow of a computer screen to keep her warm and the slobber of a mutt to keep her company. Having never married, always the old maid.
Meanwhile other classmates have passed you by. Some have married others became famous. There was so much promise for you dear. What ever went wrong to make you so bitter you cling to your computer screen?
Here is a link that should help you out dear:
http://seniors-site.com/widowm/lonely.html
Posted by: Like a duck on April 28, 2008 12:04 AMYou said:
"Did you catch Robert Mak, there is a rice shortage and I love Asian food."
You just heard about that? That has been news for over 10 days. Of course you don't look at Drudge so you didn't even realize. Serves you right. When you blind yourself to the truth, that's what happens.
Did you ever consider that your stupid liberal friends who are pushing ethanol from corn are responsible for this? Of course not. Liberals are never responsible for anything at all.
Another one of your simple pleasures in your simple life is gone. Oh well, you'll still have your computer screen and your mutt.
Do you want Jennifer's e-mails or not. The issue is not me, it is that you are the loser of a spouse. Sorry, I am not bitter, but evidentally, I have hit a nerve with you. I don't have a spouse that is close to suicidal, you do. So whatever you want to say about me, so what. i know what the future holds for me, it is good.
This is one prediction I don't want to make. You are the one of us, that people will be reading about in the papers. It won't be good. Best Wishes.
Posted by: WVH on April 28, 2008 12:11 AM"Of course you can't dance, you are Caucasian."
Oh look, Wilda's a racist to boot.
Posted by: Like a duck on April 28, 2008 12:14 AMI guess you missed this part:
"Of course you can't dance, you are Caucasian. In the interest of PC, that was a joke and not to be taken as a slur. In any event, we are not bringing back disco so you can make a fool of yourself."
I guess you missed the joke part.
Posted by: WVH on April 28, 2008 12:26 AMMaking up imaginary friends at your age is a sign of dangerous mental malfunction. You need to see your psychiatrist immediately. Please, push the button. Tell the operator you have fallen and can't get up. They will send an ambulance.
You said:
"You are the one of us, that people will be reading about in the papers. It won't be good."
Now Wilda, is that on old fashioned threat? Are you going to have someone bust my kneecaps? Really, I'd have thought a graduate of Yale Law school would be more careful than to make threats to other posters on a blog.
You are aware there are pro-bono attorney's that will take a case against you aren't you? And what does the WSBA say about their members threatening others with death?
Shall we form a racists club, you and me? Especially since you have driven your spouse to despair. Nappy headed hos was not a joke, Imus is and was a clever purveyor of a certain type of humor. I know that there is opposition research and I know the fact that you are taking on little ole me means that there is something to be discovered. Your time is rapidly fading. The demographics of the state are changing and you will be thrown under the bus, if not this election, the next cycle. Meanwhile, some one close to you is hurting, is this really worth it?
I really would like to study some one who thinks politics is worth another person's life.
It is sad what happens to the elderly such as yourself. Loneliness sets in and pretty soon all you have is the glow of a computer screen in a dark room where the only other sound is the slobber of thedog licking its private parts. Pretty soon the dog dies and the only sound is the whirls of the fan in the machine. Eventually the fan dies and the computer breaks and then all there you have is the silence and darkness.
Eventually dementia sets in and and elder care facility if required where they change your diapers for you because you can't do it on your own. All the time you realize that most of your Yale classmates changed the world. But all Wilda did was peck on a keyboard, some electronic bits flying through cyberspace to be forgotten amongst the trillions of bits that fly over the internet. No noble prize, no books published, no offices held, nothing to show for the years of hard work at Yale. So sad.
Posted by: Like a duck on April 28, 2008 12:39 AMNo you should just keep the racist club exclusive to yourself. After all, I am not a Yale graduate and I think it gives you a certain panache to be the only member of the Yale racists, don't you?
Was it worth it Wilda? Giving up the husband and family for Yale and all the bitter online persuits? Never to have a child or a loving husband. Never to see a childs eyes light up when you walk through that door? Never to know motherhood?
And for what? To spend eternity on the internet, in a dark room with only the glow of a monitor and the slobber of a mutt to keep you company?
In your nursing home, in the last hours when there is no one to say goodbye, will you feel satisified with all the hours wasted typing nonsense on an obscure blog that will likely not even come up in a search engine in 30 years?
What made you so bitter, so detached and withdrawn from the world Wilda?
Posted by: Like a duck on April 28, 2008 12:47 AMFirst, you wouldn't be spending so much time attacking me personally if I weren't scoring points and I intend to score more.
1. On the issue of bitter and detached, you might want to look at your spouse. Girlfriend is close to suicidal. I suppose being married to an empty cipher like you might want to make her consider the option.
Now, this is how Rove handled Jill Simpson, also a lawyer. You have a thing about women lawyers. Could it be you never got into law school. Oh, go ahead and misstate the Constitution, throw up a thread where YOU show us how smart you are.
Rove has been accused by republican lawyer Jill Simpson in the Siegelman case and here are his tactics:
"Note Rove's thematic line: Simpson is "a complete lunatic... a loon." It apparently gets worse than this. In the original interview, as reported in at-Largely, Rove apparently made scurrilous insinuations about Simpson's family life and her relationship with her children. GQ made the wise decision to strike them from the published text."
http://harpers.org/archive/2008/04/hbc-90002812
2. Now, let's get to the meat of this discussion.
There is a difference between those who practice Rove politics and true hard ball politics. Rove has one goal, the permanent majority. The permanent majority is achieved by SUBVERTING the institutions of government.
a. The Justice Department and US Attorneys office were used in selective prosecution of ENEMIES. See, the Sieligman case cited by Abrams and the Birmingham US Attorney may be compelled to testify under oath.
SELECTIVE PROSECUTION OF ENEMIES is step one.
b. The permanent majority needs sympathetic judges to upheld the prosecution of enemies. A CORRUPT JUDICIARY is step two. See, the Sielgelman case.
One of the things about Washington as a state is we have had a judiciary free from influence and corruption.
When one is looking at which candidate to support for governor, ask yourself what has been the governance for the last four years?
We have had both a democratic governor and legislature. THERE HAS BEEN NO ATTEMPT TO SUBVERT THE INSTITUTIONS OF GOVERMENT to obtain a permanent majority.
3. Pudgie and the boys had to use the nuclear option of going after me personally because I pointed out that Senator Rossi has his very own little Rev. Wright problem with RagnarDanneskold,
affectionately known as Rags. RagnarDanneskold is a moniker taken from the name of a character in Atlas Shrugged. Rags is prominent enough to have actually been inteviewed by the New York Times. So, it presents a problem should Senator Rossi seek to embrace Rags in public. There are enough comments at this site detailing Rag's views on race to make even Rev. Wright blush.
The boys got miffed at me because I pointed out Senator Rossi's BIG FAT problem. Hence, I had the honor of being Roved at this site.
So, Pudgie, let me go put my teeth in, grab my cane and my medication so that my elderly fingers can keep typing and opposing carpetbaggers like you who want to make this state and this country a cess pool. If all you can do is attack some poor OLD LONELY poster then you idiots are in trouble and it shows.
Governor Gregoire doesn't need to threaten, harass, and attempt intimidation, but you do. Opposition researcher, you ought to be glad I'm not, but I am sure that Senator Rossi will have to confront his Rev. Wright moment in the next few months. Got any idea where to get Metamucil, cheap?
WOW!
Really?
When?
Did I get paid?
FYI: When insulting someone, spelling counts.
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on April 28, 2008 11:30 AM
Wow are you headed off the deep end. 164 post of nothing but he said/ she said.
As I said before. Go get a life.
And stop this ROVE thing... really!
Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on April 28, 2008 01:39 PMI only hope Western State starts restricting internet access to certain hours of the day or night.
Posted by: Rick D. on April 28, 2008 05:58 PMNow, maybe in future threads we can talk about the differences in candidates on these issues:
a. Is it a good idea to take money out of the general fund for transportation issues?
b. If there is regional public transportation, how are regional transportation issues decided and funded?
c. The state is expected to have a budget shortfall, how would each candidate handle that shortfall?
d. In some schools 40% of children fail to graduate on time. Does your candidate plan to address this issue?
e. There is expected to be growth in the urban countries. Does either candidate have a plan for the smaller cities and rural areas with unemployment issues?
Now, there are plenty of issues to discuss and highlight the differences between the candidates.
You boys claim that conservative or libertarian ideas are superior to progressive or liberal ideas. Can you dolts actually argue on the issues or are you waiting for Rove's permanent majority plan to save your lame butts?
Got to go read some more of my literature from AARP. LOL.
Little Ole Me.
Posted by: WVH on April 28, 2008 09:23 PM
a. Is it a good idea to take money out of the general fund for transportation issues?
- Is it a good idea to let the infrastructure crumble? Will it cost more or less to delay replacing critical infrastructure? How much are you loved one's worth? Do you want them crushed under a flimsy viaduct in another quake?
b. If there is regional public transportation, how are regional transportation issues decided and funded?
- See Rossi Plan pg 14:
A Regional Transportation Accountability Board is needed to prioritize, fund and plan projects
in King, Pierce, Snohomish and Kitsap counties.
c. The state is expected to have a budget shortfall, how would each candidate handle that shortfall?
- We know that Gregoire would simply, mindlessly raise taxes. That would be a last resort for Rossi.
d. In some schools 40% of children fail to graduate on time. Does your candidate plan to address this issue?
- Apparently because there are still 40% failing, we know Gregoire doesn't intend to address the issue. She has had four years to address it. And even you admit that still 40% are failing. Why should the voters expect a different result this time around?
e. There is expected to be growth in the urban countries. Does either candidate have a plan for the smaller cities and rural areas with unemployment issues?
- Well as a Gregoire surrogate, don't you even know if she has a plan?
- Rossi believes that if you simply maintain the infrastructure and stay out of the way of the economic engine of small business, unemployment issues are taken care of at the local level as the economic activity is allowed to flourish.
Answer me this:
1) Why, after four years and no plan in site, should the voters trust Gregoire for four more years to address the viaduct issue that has festered for over 7 years.
2) After managing to take a budget surplus and turn it into a $2.4 billion dollar deficit, should the voters believe Gregoire can ever be fiscally responsible? Now if you say that WA is par for the course in deficits and it is a national phenomenon due to the federal government, then you must admit that the good times too were due to the federal government and that in fact, Gregoire did not affect the Wa State economy either way.
This raises the question of what we are paying her to do if her net effect on our economy is null.
3) Under the Gregoire administration, the Department of Social and Health Services was found to be negligent in its duties, resulting in the death of children under its watch.
Why should the voters believe anything will be different if after four years Gregoire still hasn't reformed that agency.
4) The Department of Corrections under Gregoire has been responsible for mistakenly releasing felons that have then murdered Washington citizens. Why should voters think four more years of the same will have any other result but more murdered Washington citizens due to criminal negligence by the WSDOC?
5) Following the gas tax increase passing the ballot, the first project the WSDOT did was a bike path in Moses Lake instead of addressing the viaduct. Is this the same kind of misguided prioritization the voters can expect with four more years of Gregoire?
