April 18, 2008
Mayor Nickels Flirts With Secession
Here's the story.
Frustrated by the state and federal gridlock on solving Seattle's transportation problems, Mayor Greg
Nickels suggested secession at a Thursday luncheon.
"Our region should declare its independence," Nickels said.
(A spokesman for the mayor later said that he was joking.)
This is confusing. The last time Democrats pushed secession, they did so after the
election of a Republican president and Congress. But the Democrats now control the Congress and have a
good chance to win the presidency this November. And, as we all know, the state government is now
controlled completely by Nickels party. And I seem to recall that some of the Democratic leaders in
the state's legislature actually come from Seattle.
(Perhaps — and this is just a stray thought — Seattle has less influence than one would expect
because Seattle voters are too faithful to a single party.)
Posted by Jim Miller at April 18, 2008
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1. I endorse that.
2. Can we get that on the ballot as an initaitive?
3. Besotted with themselves for so long, Seattle has become nothing more than a self-licking ice cream cone.
4. Perhaps Seattle should revisit its adaptation of Joe Stalin's election philosophy, "It's not who votes that counts, but who counts the votes".
Dino Rossi's transportation plan would certainly be superior to the queen's, which has been (in essence) no plan for major projects, excepting promises, multiple studies and significantly increased gasoline taxes. Much the same for education, the ferry system, Sonics, etc. Mucho taxes and talk, no action. It's time for a real governor. Vote Rossi!
5. Cut them loose! Just make sure all of his buddies are on the Seattle side of bridges before we blow them!
6. Let it be so. This novel idea would probably be well received from the surrounding communities. And for good measure, limit the boundries of King County to Seattle's boundaries.
7. I have long said that we should simply erect a fence around King County and make it the state's one correctional facility...then perhaps they could just leave the rest of us alone to bring this state back from the abyss.
8. It makes sense. The only thing that would put Seattle further out in to Marxist la-la land that in already is would be secession. Jim I think you have typo in the title. Only one c in secession. Good post.
9. Just another example of L'il Nickelbag pouting because he can't have his way. He mistakes gun control for effective law enforcement policies and is pouting because he can't divert all the transportation funds into his silly streetcars and othe mass transit boondoggles.
We should build a big fence around the city area south of the ship canal. We can designate it as a "model village" for Nickelbag and his kind and we would make sure they live within the confines of the boundry. And no revenue other than what they generate. We should also charge a huge toll to limit how often these loons leave their utopia.
10. Jeff B. - Right you are on the typo. All fixed now. Thanks.
11. Maybe Seattle should just grow up and deal with its own problems, without complaining that everyone else needs to pay to fix their messes, huh? I'm sitting in my own traffic on the Eastside, and no one is running to Seattle with expectations that the citizens of Seattle are going to fix the mess here created by King County.
Grow up mayor!
12. Consider the headline, "Seattle secedes from Washington and United States!"
Democrats wouldn't win another statewide election, Rossi would be governor in a landslide, and King County would get a Republican County Executive.
Mayor, please go. PLEASE!
13. Saints preserve us....DO IT!....and don't let the door slap you on the rear....
thinking of how much better the whole state would be without the Seattlite looney tunes brigade....
14. So we should vote for people who don't share our values because they would be able to have more influence? Influence that would result in things we don't like.
15. If Seattle seceded they would getprint their own money. Since the region is largely fueled by coffee I nominate the name 'Bucko since Beano is already taken.
16. Well, there are two parties in WA. Left and Lefter. I think there is enough difference between them to cause a real slug fest.
17. Nickels wants a traffic count,and he aims to get one out of HWY 99.Nickels is just mad that the deep bore tunnel is going to take away his precious traffic count for his whale,salmon and frog saving grand boulevard.Nickels has visions of 60 dollars a square foot,higher property taxes for Lovie and thurston on the waterfront,and sales taxes.The deep bore tunnel will take away the incentive for developers to do the surface street without that hwy 99 traffic count.Nickels wants the rural communities to shut up and move to the rainier valley and fill in the sound transit corridor.
18. A great Idea and one I will endorse. So we don't need a new I520 bridge, we don't need tolls, and while we're at it let's follow Boeing's lead and outsource all city and state government leaders to Chicago.
We can and should also adopt Boeings new strategy to not pay massive pensions to city and state governement workers, but to just give them a 401 K plan, we could save Billions and Billions there.
19. When Nickels was speaking of "region" I got the impression he was talking about at least three counties.
Eeek! When I fled Seattle's endless insanity, I didn't flee far enough!
20. Giffy: What 'values' are those?
21. Can we send Seattle with the Sonics?
22. I whole heartedly agree we, Cascadia (the Oregon Country), need to become independent. Its total bull crap to claim that our interests are reflected in either of the two corporatist parties. We are living under a fallacy that this is a democracy. Does the two corporatist parties really reflect what the average person in Seattle or Portland or Astoria or Olympia believe in? Our federal politics is East Coast Corporatist politics that have been put on hyperdrive of Globalist interests. Both the so called far left and real conservatives have far more in common that we do with the corporate bought politicians that pretend to care for the people and land of Cascadia. I believe the limited political labels that our corporatist media has manufactured of left and right or along the so called east-west Cascade divide are just a part of the game of conquer and divide. We read stupid commentaries from the mouths of the sheep who view politics as a sporting event as we lose our homes to banks; our livelihoods to outsoucring; our health and family members to corrupt medical insurance companies; our freedoms and liberties for a consumer profile or out of fear; and lose our great commons for the greed of the privileged class. As for the winning of an election by the fascist enabling party called the Democrats well I got news for you McCain has it if we do not have martial law before November 4th. Right now the corporatist media is playing with the polls to make it look like by the end of October that the presidental race will be 50/50 and then they can hand it over to McCain. The newly renamed Diebold will be bought by one of his lobbyists. And even if Obama or Clinton got in they are the same as a NeoCon (if Obama is not given the JFK jr or MLK jr treatment so as to stir up riots as an excuse for martial law). We need to stop thinking petty politics of this Soda Pop Democracy and start thinking civil liberties and protection of the Commons and Public Trusts that have been sold out to Globalists and international banks like Citibank and JPMorgan.
God Dam American Corporatist Imperialism and Forever Bioregional Cooperative Commonwealth of Cascadia! (Kanesum Chinook Illahee). Join many of us for May 2nd (Founders Day) at Champoegn, Oregon in honor of the formation of the independent country of Oregon back in 1843.
http://www2.evergreen.edu/practiceofcommunity/kwanesum-chinook-illahee
http://republic-of-cascadia.tripod.com/
23. I agree.
King County should be completely disbanded or at least reduced to the size of Seattle proper. Other regions should have their own counties more in tune with their local needs.
24. I think Seattle becoming it's own autonomous district, maybe like Washington D.C., is a great idea as long as the residents no longer vote in statewide elections or make draconian land use policies that negatively effect rural residents.
Without Seattle in the mix some civility and sanity could be restored to the State.
25. Finally!! Now seattle can find a true symbol of it's politics......the Lenin Statue in Fremont will supplant the Statue of Liberty.
Beware the Unwashed!!
26. Second Mayor Nickel's motion. The rest of the State can be renamed the State of Lincoln.
27. The local mainstream media continues the information blackout on
legal action involving the shutdown of the Seattle Monorail Project.
This information is factual.
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Thursday, April 17, 2008 - Seattle, Washington
STATE COURT JUDGES SUED IN CONNECTION WITH SEATTLE MONORAIL PROJECT
SHUTDOWN
Ten Washington State court judges are being sued in federal court in Seattle over their dismissal of a class action lawsuit brought by a Seattle man claiming unlawful termination of the Seattle Monorail Project ("SMP") by the Monorail Authority charged with building the transportation system.
Plaintiff in his federal lawsuit claims the judges presiding over his state court lawsuit against the Monorail Authority deliberately and
knowingly violated his civil rights by wrongfully dismissing his legal action to deny him the relief he/Seattle was entitled to as a
matter of law regarding the voter-approved monorail transportation project.
A Judge of the King County Superior Court in Seattle, a Commissioner of the Court of Appeals in Seattle, three Justices of the Court of
Appeals in Seattle, and five Justices of the Washington State Supreme Court in Olympia are named as defendants in the lawsuit.
28. MJC, I really don't think that the Mayor or any of the Senators will ever grow up. No Liberal actually wants to have to DO anything, they just want to complain about it.
It really stinks to see how this nation is going to the dogs, and Seattle is just one of the worse regions. It is nauseating; I just watch what they are doing, and shudder at the thought of how they are screwing us all over.
29. I hope Portland secceeds as well.
30. Seattle is now divided into 4 main geographic units, so I guess it depends on which 'gangland' wants to 'leave the union'. Normal night time sounds of gunfire and the occasional dead body sort of sets the tone and the atmosphere in 21st Century downtown Seattle. One commuter hobby I have heard about is the counting of bullet holes in the buildings walking down 4th and 3rd avenue to work in the morning.
You have the African-American gang downtown, the MS 13 bunch in the valley of death (Rainier valley) and parts west, the Ethiopian gangs in the U District, and a major battle in the north end on who runs that area. Word has it that the Vietnamese gangs from Bellevue's Overlake area are expanding over into China town and the north side. Highly competitive out there on the streets for those in charge of Meth, Coke, and loco weed sales in the city.
If you talk to Seattle Police officials they speak mainly of 'light loads' and rarely of 'light rail'. They speak of 'transportation needs' revolving around ways of getting the innocent bystander victims of drive by shootings over to the high experienced 'bullet trauma ward' at Harborview and not the endless traffic mess in the city; while city officials want more people on buses and on foot in the crime capitol of the NW in order to help with 'global warming'. Make sense to you?
The gang task force that was formed two years ago with King County, the State of Washington, the City of Seattle and the Feds has come to nothing, SO FAR! What's there to investigate, the drug dealers have their young mules on street corners strategically placed around the city with their ankle holstered guns and their pockets full of dope. Why not arrest them?
Life can be so complicated in Seattle, can't it?
31. please, I hope they do secesde and the politics of king county and washington improve. Effing liberals, they can all drown in Elliot Bay as far as I am concerned
32. One of my useless trueisms...
A liberal looks to the left and right and asks “What those guys can do for me?” A conservative looks at his own two hands and asks "What can these do for me?"