10:47: Fun exchange. Goldy and I agree even less on Presidential politics than on the Governor's race.
10:38: Cato whining in the comments below. Regular readers are stunned.
10:34: News flash, Goldy and I don't agree on the Governor's race. Host Steve Scher asks an interesting question, and I paraphrase: "what is Christine Gregoire going to run on?"
Good question.
10:26: Blogger accountability? How do the people's journalists have their feet held to the fire? I'd say our readers and other bloggers.
10:20: Is Barack Obama an elitist? The fact we're discussing that is a problem for his campaign
10:15: Blazing Saddles references...unexpected goodness
Per the post below, at least I'm going to give it a whirl...at KUOW's request. I'm not sure how the live blogging and talking on the radio thing will work.
Comment away...and call in at (206) 543-KUOW or
(800) 289-KUOW. And of course you can listen online.
P.S. Goldy is not wearing a Che shirt.
P.P.S. How should I have dressed to meet the conservative stereotype?
Posted by Eric Earling at April 14, 2008 09:59 AM | Email ThisDon't worry about it, since it doesn't apply here. Heh.
Posted by: hinton on April 14, 2008 10:38 AMFor those of us in deep mountain valleys in the far distant corners of the Inland Empire who do not receive KUOW directly but DO have excellent high-speed wireless connection to the net:
Having the audio file delayed by an hour makes it a bit difficult to ''coordinate'' the audio with the live blogging.... [_sigh_]....
In any case: Don't let Goldy get a free ride on anything....
Posted by: Methow Ken on April 14, 2008 10:47 AMGoldy obviously had the most 'on-air presence' with his ease and talk show host experience. [Sounded like host 'cringed' and lowered his voice whenever he had to idendify Goldy with 'Horsesass.Com'] Eric came across as a typical academic, very articulate and University-versed. The other blogger (from Whitman County) and lady who was a recent UW grad were almost indescernible. I would suggest KUOW invest more of their coffers in audio enhancement for phone-line guests. Bottom-line: I should have remained on the Dave Ross Show, and you probably wasted taking that time off from work, Eric. :)
Posted by: Duffman on April 14, 2008 11:01 AMProgressivism is like trying to calm a body of water by placing a float line around a portion of the water, and rigorously controlling the interior of the float line. And Progressives don't just pick swimming pools or a good size lakes to calm, they pick oceans.
Posted by: Jeff B. on April 14, 2008 11:22 AMThe very essence of politics is presumption.
Progressivism attempts to create a better outcome through control. But that is not possible.
How does that work with Iraq and nation building? Does President Bush feel that we can archive a better outcome in Iraq by invading and installing a new Govt? Are we not attempting to create a better outcome in Basra by controlling the movements of people in and out of the city?
A classic strawman argument. Let alone the fact that what's going on Iraq is not nation building, and that radical Islam is an obvious threat, nor that there has been Progress in stabilizing Iraq, which in the long run will at least be one Island of sanity in the theocratic morass that is the middle east. No, you have to be content with trying to justify Progressivism, by finding fault with something that you perceive to be on the other side. Which is a logical fallacy.
Let's say I grant you that Iraq is a total failure. That would still not justify Progressive failures, nor future plans that can already be demonstrated (by Canada and the UK) as failures, such as Nationalized Healthcare.
To the extent that conservatives have failed, or that Republicans do wrong does not justify the overarching philosophical inferiority of Progressivism as compared with Individualism.
Progressives have a general distrust of mankind, and seek an authoritarian solution to any given problem. When the so called Progressive solution is actually deployed, it almost leads to an even worse problem. With respect to your dislike of "nation building" in Iraq, you have only Progressives to blame. Were it not for Progressive appeasement of Islam, particularly under Carter and Clinton, it's likely we never would have got to the place where we did with Iraq. Now we are at a similar crossroads with Iran. Progressives visa vis Obama believe that diplomacy is the solution. But there is zero evidence that Islam under Ahmadinejad is any more likely to back down now, than it was when Carter first opened the door. If anything with talk of nukes and eradication of Israel it is worse.
But like everything Progressive, the ponzi scheme mentality ignores any potential future collapse, for the immediate gratification here and now. It sure feels good when Carter and Clinton buddy up to Palestinian terror, but are they any closer to peace?
Posted by: Jeff B. on April 14, 2008 01:13 PMTalk about short memory, that was a concept agreed on by the Clinton Administration and Congress. Just lower yourself to watch the speeches by Clinton, John Kerry, Mrs. Clinton, Madeline Allbright, Nancy Pelosi, old Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and all, on that very subject.
Or would that move, if made by Clinton, have been 'justice' as opposed to Bush's bomb-dropping, Predator-swarming, oil-sucking, UN-ignoring, Humvee-roaring, Iran-offending, Zarkawi-obliterating, imperialist unilateral environment-traumatazing (oh, sorry, that was Saddam draining the marshes) regime-changing defeat of Amerikka?
Oh, dang, that last defeat only counts if you read the Nation or the NYT. But I know that you Sons of Duranty are still on your feet cheering for the party line.
Posted by: Insufficiently Sensitive on April 14, 2008 01:13 PMThe P-I could care less about civilization and regional stability in the Middle East in coming decades, as long as it can hyperventilate about NANNY-STATE GOODIES NOW!!
It's a pretty short jump from infant to P-I editorial board.
Posted by: Insufficiently Sensitive on April 14, 2008 02:46 PMSP was the inspiration for my blog Palousitics, so it was nice to meet one of the contributors, even if was only over the phone.
Posted by: Tom Forbes on April 14, 2008 03:51 PMSigned,
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