April 07, 2008
One of The Best Parts of the Top 2 Primary System

The chance to topple Congressman McDermott in a November election. Many a Democrat - including some proud liberals - willing to run for that seat would make a better alternative than Baghdad Jim.

Ted Van Dyk, without saying so directly, recounts some reasons why McDermott is weakened heading into this fall. The lede is especially rich:

Previous donors to U.S. Rep. Jim McDermott's campaign or legal-defense funds have received an appeal for immediate money to help pay $1,111,388 in legal fees and interest that a federal judge has ordered the Seattle Democrat to pay Republican Rep. John Boehner of Ohio. (Boehner says the money, when received, will be used to support Republican candidates.)

That last part really ought to inspire potential donors.

Posted by Eric Earling at April 07, 2008 08:21 PM | Email This
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1. Haha, yes--pony up dems!

How sweet it is.

Posted by: Michele on April 7, 2008 08:33 PM
2. Since we've got this new fangled top two system, I think I'll change my name and party affiliation and run for elected office. I don't have any money and I probably won't campaign much, but dang it, the Democrat party needs me!!! Why, I bet I could get 6 or 7 percent of the vote in, say, Rick Ensley's district.

If you think this is a bad joke, wait until you see how many fake Republicans are running for Congress next time.

Posted by: Henry (Scoop) Jackson III on April 7, 2008 09:44 PM
3. Actually, the hypothetical scenario you suggest - two Democrats running against each other in November (McDermott and "some proud liberal") would not benefit the people of the 7th congressional district, and would not represent a meaningful "alternative" to McDermott. In fact, it is an example of what's wrong with the top two primary system.

Do we really want the November ballot to be limited to two candidates, both favoring retreat from Iraq, both favoring higher taxes and bigger government, both favoring amnesty for illegal immigrants, both supporting government-run health care, both from the same party, both supporting Barack Obama for president? That does not represent an "alternative" to McDermott. If you want an "alternative" to McDermott, you need a candidate that disagrees with McDermott.

One party rule has harmed the citizens of Seattle and the 7th congressional district. We should make sure there is a Republican candidate on the ballot in November against McDermott. I fully expect to qualify in the August 19 "top two" primary and make it to the general election. But I also want to make the case explaining why it is important for conservatives and Republicans - not just in Seattle but throughout Washington State - to make sure there is a clear alternative in the general election.

The voters in Seattle and King County would be better served by a debate over the issues. Although the scenario of two Democrats facing off in November is hypothetical, and may not happen, we should not be under any illusion that this would somehow be a favorable outcome for the people. It would protect and strengthen the incumbent party, it would reinforce a lack of diversity in political debate, and it would augment the one-sided liberal domination of the Seattle area. Also, it would hurt the overall effort of statewide GOP campaigns.

Growing, building, and reinvigorating the Republican Party in the Seattle area is not a narrow partisan concern, but a direct and vital benefit to the citizens. Without a Republican alternative on the November ballot, there would be no debate over the need for a victory strategy against terrorism, there would be no debate over the need for free market solutions for health care and other key issues, there would be no debate over limiting government and slashing spending, there would be no debate over McDermott's extremist views on pro-life issues. Without such a debate, the voters would be deprived of a choice.

And without such a debate, an opportunity to persuade and convince and win people over to conservative values and Republican policies would be squandered. Squandering such an opportunity would negatively affect GOP turnout in Seattle and King County. While the 7th congressional district is heavily Democratic, even a small incremental increase in the GOP percentage can make a difference in other races. Let's keep in mind the close elections of 2000 (Gorton-Cantwell) and 2004 (Rossi-Gregoire).

There are some high stake races in Washington State this year - electing Rossi, re-electing McKenna, carrying the state for McCain - and all of them would be negatively affected if two liberal, pro-tax, antiwar, Democratic Party candidates were the only choices in the 7th congressional district in November. My campaign aims to create needed debate, discussion, and dialogue on key issues. On the merits, on the issues - this is a debate that we ultimately can win. It will be a process, of course, and it will hardly be accomplished in one or even two election cycles. But the debate is one we can ultimately win.

I'm running against McDermott, and it is my intention to campaign for conservative values, Republican policies, free market solutions, a victory strategy against Islamic fascism, lower taxes, and limited government - right in the heart of liberal Seattle and King County. My campaign aims to build the Republican Party in this area, to energize grassroots activists, to create needed debate on key issues, and to help change the political atmosphere in the Pacific Northwest.

Posted by: Steve Beren on April 7, 2008 10:13 PM
4. One of the comments on Ted Van Dyk's article (by a poster named "smacgry") argues from a pro-liberal, pro-Democratic Party point of view that the liberal and "progressive" cause would be more successfully and more forcefully advanced if another liberal replaced McDermott:

"I am the leftiest lefty in Seattle.... [McDermott] is clearly popular with Seattleites. However, I cannot for the life of me see why. I think in many ways he has indeed become complacent in his safe seat and failed to capitalize on the benefits that a safe seat can provide. He could, for instance, have become a national spokesperson against the war in Iraq, and an outspoken one at that. Yet he isn't on any national radar; the only media coverage he gets is of his legal woes and of his perceived 'wackiness' by outsiders. Someone with greater political talent, or a better sense of how to use a safe seat, could easily overcome the 'wacky' stereotype to really advance a progressive agenda...."

Posted by: Steve Beren on April 7, 2008 11:15 PM
5. Come on, Eric. Give Steven Berens some props. He was and is working hard. I don't know why he isn't being supported by the R party (Steve will tell you he has a lot of endorsements from Rs), but we all know there is support and there is real support.

How about an article about Steve Berens on the main page? Because SP hasn't and he doesn't get any press and doesn't get quoted as opponents to a candidate normally do, I can only assume there is something wrong with him. I have withheld time committments/support until he gets more backing from the Rs.

And, have you noticed, Crosscut has become extremely liberal and their comments are almost exclusively Evergreen Stater alumni or leftists? I didn't see a counter comment on the Vandyk article, for example.

Posted by: swatter on April 8, 2008 07:13 AM
6. "That last part really ought to inspire potential donors."

I have to give Eric credit for his last sentence.

Seriously, Jim McDermott has almost one million dollars sitting in his campaign fund right now. Seems that John Boehner's could simply issue a writ of garnishment against that money, once there is an actual judgment entered by the federal judge to implement the order determining the legal fees.

I don't think Boehner could garnish McDermott's wages or sell his home though. McDermott was single when he dealt with that recorded telephone call, and has since been married for more than three years. Those two items are community property, and Boehner can't touch them, since the pre-marital debt was not made into a formal judgment until more than three years after he got married.

I do think that $1.1 million in legal fees is absolutely ridiculous.

Posted by: Richard Pope on April 8, 2008 07:48 AM
7. If you think 1.1 million is ridiculous Richard, imagine the savings if he'd have just fessed up and not used the judicial system to hide and delay his intent.
Typical lib though, abuse the system then ask supporters to bail your sorry a$$ out, AKA Billybob Clinton.

Posted by: PC on April 8, 2008 08:23 AM
8. That is what happens Richard when you drag out a court case for over a decade. Remember interest is also included.
That is our current justice system. You have to be willing to put millions of dollars on line to protect your name. Or do what is right. Because the loser will always drag it out and hope to get it handled out of court. Here is a democrat who finally gets the bad end of a deal they support for the sake of the Lawyers.
Another reason for court reform. Speedy justice is not in the lawyers interests Drag it out and they make out like a bandit with all the fees they can charge.
For example http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1076428372810 THis is the Microsoft summary for it to pay the lawyer fees. Read the article if a company has deep pockets lawyers just want to pick it as much as possible. Long court cases do the same thing.
No wonder the people have not protection in the courts. Just like KC uses Tax dollars to fund Lawyers so the little citizen can not fight them. Because the individual may be in the right but the club of unlimited funds for lawyers means the Government can steal your property for a song and give it to a special interest. And they do not have the resources to fight it.
Pay up Bagdad Jim you are personally responsible for the situation. THats right Politicians are above the same laws the rest of us have to live under.

Posted by: David Anfinrud on April 8, 2008 08:25 AM
9. Saddam Hussein paid for the trip that resulted in McDermott's nickname, but sadly for him Saddam is rotting in hell and isn't available to write Jim another check.

Maybe Baghdad Jim can sell naming rights to his nickname to another middle east dictator. Damascus Jim just doesn't have the same ring, however.

Posted by: Obi-Wan on April 8, 2008 08:55 AM
10. Will the Republican party allow a former Socialist Workers Party activist to run against McDermott--its all just a BIG JOKE !

Posted by: kilroy on April 8, 2008 09:06 AM
11. Hey Steve, if you enjoy a good-natured ribbing, you might like this article from the local parody news site The Naked Loon: Republicans with No Hope Make Pointless Run for Office

FYI, I run The Naked Loon, so yes, this was a shameless plug. But at least it's related to the post :^)

Posted by: The Tim on April 8, 2008 09:18 AM
12. I don't know why he isn't being supported by the R party

Because the last person to get more that 20% against McDermott was six years ago (23%). I think the GOP leadership recognizes that Steven Berens campaign is a waste of money and a futile fight against a extremely safe seat.

Looks like Steven picked up a whopping 15% of the vote last time he ran in 2006. I doubt he'll fare any better this time around.

Posted by: Cato on April 8, 2008 11:29 AM
13. Yes, Mr. Pope, I thought $1 million was outrageous. For the damage it did for the political process, he should have been in the slammer with about a 10 million settlement to pay.

Posted by: swatter on April 8, 2008 11:37 AM
14. Sweet, but I think Cato is right. I think Dems/Libs have shown time and again that they don't care if their candidates are honest. They have ponied up $400,000 in private donations to help bail out McScumbag according to Dori Monson.

Posted by: NW Denizen on April 8, 2008 11:50 AM
15. For the damage it did for the political process,

LOL, What damage was that?

Exposing Gingrich as liar who would rather turn a judicial committee hearing into a partisan meltdown rather than admit he cheated on his taxes?

Posted by: Cato on April 8, 2008 11:58 AM
16. So Cato, breaking the law is okay as long as you uncover a lie?

Posted by: Palouse on April 8, 2008 12:21 PM
17. I can understand why the R party does not feel they can spend money on a congressional race in the 7th Distrct, but I commend Berens for giving it a try, anyway. If he feels called to run and is willing to put the effort in, then he should run and give it his best shot regardless of whatever support he gets. If he's willing, what's the harm?

Posted by: Michele on April 8, 2008 12:21 PM
18. So Cato, breaking the law is okay as long as you uncover a lie?

Except for it wasn't actually uncovering a lie anyway. They took like two sentences out of context and made it look like a lie. When you see the whole conversation in context, it's totally innocuous.

Posted by: Cliff on April 8, 2008 12:37 PM
19. He was fined for releasing it to the media...the couple who made the recording was fined like $100 each. McDermott could have saved himself a lot of money by apologizing early on and donating like $1000 to charity.

In the grand scheme of the law this offense was a pretty minor violation compared to some horrendous things others have done.

Posted by: Cato on April 8, 2008 01:01 PM
20. If he's willing, what's the harm?

Michelle, why spend lots of money on a candidate who is guaranteed to loose in November? Don't you feel that money could be better spent on other races where the candidate actually has a chance of winning (like Rossi).

Posted by: Cato on April 8, 2008 01:22 PM
21. There's more to support than money, Michelle.

The Rs, as far as I can tell, have been silent. Waste political capital by pumping him up publicly? What capital to waste, I retort.

Why not get him some free press what with all this legal problems he is having? Hmmmm, Michelle?

As for you, Cato, your guys sure made a big deal of nothing over this. Fortunately, you have the press on your side so they carried the torch for you and the others. If you are as intelligent as you think, have you listened to the totality of the illegal taping? I thought not.

Posted by: swatter on April 8, 2008 01:32 PM
22. So you're justifying law breaking behavior by pointing out others have broken the law too? Bad form Cato.

McDermott and the Florida couple broke the law, and deserved what they got. McDermott brought the huge monetary fine on himself by refusing to acknowledge that he broke the law and continually appealling. The suckers who donated to his legal defense got what they deserved too.

Posted by: Palouse on April 8, 2008 01:33 PM
23. If you are as intelligent as you think, have you listened to the totality of the illegal taping?

Nope, I've never even heard the tape...can't find a .mp3/wav/avi of it either.

Jim didn't make the tape, he just released it. The couple who did the taping it was fined, they paid a whopping $200 for their crime. I doubt anyone could pull this off today since cell/wireless phones are much more secure.

Geez, someone one party jumps all over the other something for comments taken out of context? That never happens in todays world, we're much more civilized than that. =P

The suckers who donated to his legal defense got what they deserved too.

Agreed, another easy reelection for Jim McDermott.

Posted by: Cato on April 8, 2008 01:51 PM
24. Jim didn't make the tape, he just released it.

Yup, illegally.

The couple who did the taping it was fined, they paid a whopping $200 for their crime.

Actually, they paid $1,000 and plead guilty to illegal wiretapping.

Agreed, another easy reelection for Jim McDermott.

Since he would have been reelected easily anyway, the money they wasted on his defense fund really had nothing to do with his reelection. The only thing McDermott lost (besides money) was his seat on the ethics committee.

Posted by: Palouse on April 8, 2008 02:13 PM
25. The only thing McDermott lost (besides money) was his seat on the ethics committee.

I doubt he'll be missing that one. =P

Posted by: Cato on April 8, 2008 02:40 PM
26. Thank heavens for Orb... good one Dori... whoever you are.

RE Serial ObfusCATOr, I'd bet your Mom and your teachers wanted to slap you and your sibling and classmates regularly beat you up... you were the one, who when called on the carpet for some trangression, ran your mouth tattling on everyone else in a feeble attempt to take the heat off you.

Dude, this isn't 3rd grade anymore... well at least not for most of us.

You do not and cannot win an arguemnet by changing the subject, no matter how often or valiently you try.

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on April 8, 2008 06:08 PM
27. I can't think of anything that makes me more happy than democraps donating $1,000,000 + to our Republican party...

Oops I forgot, except Clinton and Obama spending 3 million a month fighting and tearing each other to pieces.

:)

Posted by: GS on April 8, 2008 07:14 PM
28. Wake up people. King County is the most corrupt county. We can't even vote to change the famous "crown symbol" to pay off the King family over $600,000 to name it after Martin Luther Kin Jr. What a waste of time a money. Larry Gosset and Ron Sims hate white people.

Posted by: Bill Parker on April 8, 2008 07:44 PM
29. Actually, Rep. Boehner can use the money for his own legal defense fund. As a leader of the House Republicans, he is under federal investigation for taking Jack Abramoff's bribes. (Then-Rep. Ney fought his own charges, until he'd exhausted his own political funds, whereupon he quickly surrendered to the feds.) You see, money collected for campaigns -- or for other candidates -- can be used for a politician's own legal defense, without the consent of the donors.

As Boehner has publicly complained about how little money his party has raised, he might indeed actually use it for the purpose he stated. Somehow, saving his own skin -- even if just to delay the inevitable -- may take precedence over the good of his party.

And, we can dispense with any sympathy for poor, wronged Rep. Boehner. You see, he has tried to obtain immunity for telecommunications companies. Those companies, at the request of high-ranking Republicans, illegally recorded the calls of their own customers. Said customers are now suing the companies. Rep. Boehner, after ten years of suing for violation of privacy, actually believes privacy should not exist for us mere voters. (Maybe he can sell your conversations to pay his legal bills?)

Paying money, even indirectly, to this liar, hypocrite, fraud and possible felon will not feel good, but keeping an honest man in Congress will be worth it.

Posted by: tensor on April 8, 2008 08:18 PM
30. Democrats are scared. They will lose the governors race, and this time it will not be counted 3 times. Democrats know their useless, overtax, overspend time is up. It will be and always has been Governor Dino Rossi. Democrats in this state for 30 years? Are you kidding me WE NEED CHANGE NOW!! Quit being chicken and vote REPUBLICAN!

Posted by: Bill Parker on April 8, 2008 08:26 PM
31. tensor, you had a misguided, but valid comment until about the last five words you posted.

If you left out that McDermott was "honest" you would have been better off.

Posted by: swatter on April 9, 2008 07:15 AM
32. swatter: I have no clue whether the R party is supporting Beren or not. I am not in his county or district, or at the state party, so he's outside my experience in that regard.

As to him not getting much coverage on SP, well, which R candidates for Congress ARE? None that I've seen. They will get such coverage. Maybe now's a good time to start it, with most of the conventions over.

I wonder if the state convention will nominate state and Congressional (and Legislative?) candidates ... ?

Posted by: pudge on April 9, 2008 07:44 AM
33. swatter, you are giving tensor WAY too much credit. Anyone who politicizes indemnification for telcos (sponsored by antiwar, anti-Bush Democrat Jay Rockefeller) is beyond hope.

And tensor also is giving blatantly incorrect information: there is no serious investigation against Boehner for Abramoff. To compare him to Ney is ridiculous: Ney did not go to jail for receiving legal political donations (which is all that Boehner did: took money from Abramoff associates, not even Abramoff himself), but for doing political favors in exchange for gifts (skyboxes, trips, and thousands in gambling chips).

Indeed, tensor left out the fact that Patty Murray got more money from Abramoff associates than Boehner ...

Posted by: pudge on April 9, 2008 07:55 AM
34. Democrats in this state for 30 years?

State seems to be in fairly good shape after 30 years (minus the failing economy). GDP is up from 30 years ago, we have a good share of Fortune 500 companies located here, no income tax, farming still dominates Eastern Washington.

Oh you mean this Rep. Boehner?

"He handed out checks from tobacco lobbyists on the House floor in 1995 while lawmakers were weighing tobacco subsidies. In 2004, he allowed Sallie Mae to throw him a fundraiser while the student lending outfit was lobbying his committee. And he is a frequent flier on trips paid for by special interests."

No conflicts of interest there. =)

Posted by: Cato on April 9, 2008 02:43 PM
35. Cato: so you agree the federal Republicans have done a good job with the economy? Or do you disagree that the federal Republicans have a significant impact on state economies?

Posted by: pudge on April 9, 2008 06:58 PM
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