The Seattle Times editorial board takes the Democratic Presidential contenders to task for their selective and convenient positioning on trade. It's about time.
Posted by Eric Earling at April 03, 2008 07:58 AM | Email ThisHow about the new mess the mayor of Seattle wants to do with paper & plastic bags.
Save the earth my tail. He's looking for more money.
Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on April 3, 2008 08:35 AMGov Gregoire is also 'a superdelegate who has endorsed Obama'. Let's have her superior explanation why she should do so, when Mr. O has said he'll vote AGAINST trade agreements with Colombia and South Korea. Oh - all delegates are equal, but some are equaler than others. Only in the (anti-)Democratic Party.
Posted by: Insufficiently Sensitive on April 3, 2008 09:12 AMHillary was booted partly because she grabbed some public records which contained a precedent supporting legal counsel for the accused Nixon, and placed them where the public could not access them. Then she wrote a recommendation that he not be allowed counsel in the legal process.
This was a pioneering effort by Hillary which led to her concealment of the Rose Law Firm records in the White house when Congress needed to see them. She seems to be a top-notch operative when it comes to concealing evidence, and this sordid part of her political history needs more public exposure. Obviously the laws, for lawyer Hillary, were all designed for other mortals than her superior self.
Posted by: Insufficiently Sensitive on April 3, 2008 09:25 AMSeems they may be having buyers remorse.
At least the Republicans were able to eliminate a couple of their darlings before it was too late.
Obama seems like a person you would play gymrat basketball with. But, I got over that when I was 30, so what did the guy do from then to now? Seems like it was a whole lot of nothing.
I just wonder what type of 'community organizing' the guy did as part of his resume? Everything else seems an embellishment, so why is this phase of his life so secretive? Is there more?
Posted by: swatter on April 3, 2008 09:32 AMLOL, I think it's called being a DEMOCRAT!
It's not what she did, it's how she felt when she did it. (the dem way)
Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on April 3, 2008 10:06 AMThe news of her firing is a very recent revelation by Jeff Zeifman, the erstwhile general counsel and chief of staff of the committee, who fired Clinton after the case was finished and refused to write her a recommendation (a dubious distinction she shared with only two others in Zeifman's 17 year-career) because, as he puts it, "she was a liar. She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality."
It was his diary entries which recently came to light. Apparently he was enough of a loyal Democrat that he kept mum all through the (Bill) Clinton administration, but isn't willing to keep it up any further.
Posted by: Insufficiently Sensitive on April 3, 2008 10:14 AMGlobalization is over.
The USA is the only productive nation in the world.
There is almost no value added products coming from ROW (Rest of World) that we need anymore. We can build cars just as good and just as cheap as anyone by a combination of superior management, labor and automation.
Japan is turning into a geriatric state. Toyota sales are down.
China is too busy using every scrap of wood to build housing.
India has been unmasked -- shoddy work, untrained "engineers".
Europe?? Please. Give me a break. What does Europe produce any more?
So, it's all USA. The key is Local not Global. If you can sell to your neighbor you will make more money than selling to some guy in Katmandu.
Check your email? I'm trying to get in touch fast. Or if you know how to get in touch with Eric -- please get him to read this post!
Posted by: david hyde on April 3, 2008 11:46 AMNone of the candidates is for isolationism/nationalism trade position where we block trade outright and impose tariffs on everyone, etc. (e.g., Pat Buchanan). None of the candidates (as far as I can tell), also don't think that trade can be used to influence countries behaviors (e.g., total open free willing market). Those that bash the candidates, need to bash specific trade positions and not this general blacket statement.
For example, does the newspaper think we should trade with China no matter their human rights positions and with no control on the quality of their imports. Does the newspaper think trading with countries that employ child labor should be free and open and not a word said? The newspaper is being hypocritical on its position. At least the people hear are a lot more consistent, whether one agrees or not with their position.
This is a stupid opinion piece by the paper.
Posted by: tc on April 3, 2008 11:55 AMhttp://www.mattmanweller.com/docs/jury_theorems.html
I heard today that she said something to the effect of "We need to get past the free-market mindset."
Oh. My. Goodness.
Swatter @19: Nice try Swatter. I did not state in my post one way or another with regards to Obama's trade stance. What I stated was that the paper was being a hypocrite. I specifically didn't go into a candidate by candidate comparison because frankly I don't see that big difference between all three of them. Sure, they will play up these minor differences in the general election, but realistically, none is a Pat Buchanan when it comes to trade.
Posted by: tc on April 3, 2008 04:07 PMKeep donating to her, I love to see you democrats wasting money on these two losers paying for them to stay at top spots like Bellagio Hotel Villa One Suite in Las Vegas.
With entry through a private secret tunnel the Bellagio Villa One is a two bedroom, $6,000 per night masterpiece. Staff pampers guests in a private dining room, private gym, and more.
The villas have 130 staff to help make the Bellagio's Villa One the top suite in the Travel Channel's roundup and the "most stylish suite" in Las Vegas.
Oh and the Clintons' tab for one evening came to $1,530 and included entrees of nine steaks, three chicken, three salmon and three Maine scallops, two lobster pappardelle, salads, sashimi, rock shrimp, and various side dishes.
The Clintons, spent a whole week in a Bellagio villa, and several times had big orders delivered from N9NE restaurant.
They really feel the pain and obviously exhibit such to the people in this country who are fighting every day to afford the massive increase being thrown at them by government every day.
Keep believing in those Clintons, and please keep sending your queen and king more of your income so they can live in such a grand sytle that they surely understand and feel the results of their over taxation of the middleclass people in this land.
Posted by: GS on April 3, 2008 04:37 PMLooks like Gore got offered a big position with Obama, so you know where his money and power train super delegate vote will land.
Obama's Wife was campaigning with Kerry's wife, so you know where his super delagate vote will land.
Obama out raised Clinton 40 million to 20 million in the last month so you know who can buy more super delagates now.
Gotta disagree, Hillary is finished!
Ha ha ha ho ho ha ha..
The Clintons have made 50 MILLION DOLLARS since the peniz prez left office... and that doesn't even include "donations" to Clinton Memorial Cat and Porn History Library.
The question is, given their forbidden access tax returns, what are they hiding? Are they hiding the source, are they hiding their tax dodges or both.
Whorrabullary is power hungry.
She doesn't care about anyone but herself. And she sure as hell doesn't care about this country or YOU.
Too bad she's just about 3 weeks form being totally irrelvant. The icing on the cake is that she has totally destroyed the 'legacy" of the peni prez. Buh Bye...don't let the door knob hit either of you... on the way to obscurity.
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on April 3, 2008 07:43 PMThe Federal Pension System should be brought back into perspective with the private Pension system. In other words done away with completely.
Posted by: GS on April 3, 2008 08:13 PM
Good.
Good riddance to sleazy trash.
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on April 3, 2008 08:37 PMhttp://www.northstarwriters.com/dc163.htm
Posted by: samuel huntington on April 3, 2008 11:04 PMDuffman, wake up! She's not what you think she is. You are in serious denial!
Posted by: Michele on April 4, 2008 10:22 AMBe careful what you wish for, liberals.
Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on April 4, 2008 11:11 AMClintons Report $109.2 Million in Income Over 7 Years
Her Senate Salary: $1,051,606
His Presidential Pension: $1,217,250
Her Book Income: $10,457,083
His Book Income: $29,580,525
His Speech Income: $51,855,599
I have now been deemed ruler of this great land and I do hereby edict this plan:
The Clintons in 7 years make 109.2 million and donate 10.2 million to charity, and pay 33 million in taxes, so they still have $66,000,000 left in that 7 years, or about $9 1/2 Million each year forever................SO
I hereby now edict as ruler and newly acting like a good democrap that I do now and forever declare and deem a 99% tax rate solely on the Clintons estate.
All Clinton Income will NOW be taxed at 99% and be allowed no more than 1 million retention to them as a couple every 7 years or $142,857 per year maximum including any Secret Service protection or monitoring at their Massive F'n Home in NY.
Signed by the now Leader of this US Nation, by which this nation was by the way founded, to get away from excessive and repressive taxation.
In adendumb! and especially as continually and most obviously shown the case back on the Pacific coast in the low life Liberal Western State, Washington State, I do hereby declare the following:
As of this day I do hereby place the new 99% tax specifically on all Liberals and especially on all Christine Gregoire's tax returns from this day forward.
All proceeds of these 99% taxes from the Clintons and the Liberals in Washington state will hereby be collected for my own personal use and enjoyment throughout my life.
This new taxation will begin today!
And will be enforcerd!
Posted by: GS on April 4, 2008 05:27 PM
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/returns/
I.m sure they have been scrubbed up pretty good.
Her Real estate taxes alone for 2006 are $84,506, can you imagine the Carbon Footprint from that home?
I'm sure from what I am seeing they really
do (NOT) feel our taxation pain?
So I am still instituting a 99% tax rate on those two.
I'll be looking in the mail for the check, and we'll start the "Drinking Conservative" meetings every week paid for entirely by the Clintons!
Drink Up!
Posted by: GS on April 5, 2008 06:35 PM