Yes, a Hillary Clinton nomination would help Dino Rossi. If for no other reason than Barack Obama's proven ability to bring newer and younger voters into the fold.
King County's high turnout of 83% in 2004 was challenging enough. A few more percentage points from college-aged voters and other disaffected liberals otherwise inclined to be flaky about their voting privileges isn't terribly high on the to-do list of the Rossi campaign.
Posted by Eric Earling at March 07, 2008 07:42 AM | Email ThisAny evidence that economy is "tanking" other then reading your excrement for signs?
Posted by: FreedomLover on March 7, 2008 08:13 AMSounds like you've been out of the country for a few months. The chairman of the Federal Reserve has been testifying before congress to this effect since Christmas and the Dow is off 2,000 points. Even George Bush has voiced concerns.
Feel free to ignore the evidence though if it doesn't fit your ideology.
It just has to tank. When the election is decided and it is an R, expect the stock market and economy to rebound.
Rossi will ride the Clinton coattails into the governor's mansion. The question I have is whether Rossi will bring the state to McCain.
Posted by: swatter on March 7, 2008 08:31 AMIt's time for a true Republican Reformation movement to sweep out the crooks from WA politics.
Posted by: John Bailo on March 7, 2008 08:53 AMMaybe you missed the facts that bank stocks are tanking due to a slew of bad loans. This has led to huge increases in foreclosures. The huge increase in foreclosures pretty much killed the housing boom. Now that the housing boom is over it's starting to affect other areas of the economy as spending slows. Meanwhile the dollar is at an all time low while oil prices are at all time highs. This effects gas prices which go up, causing prices to inflate, thereby causing people to cut spending. Lack of consumer spending leads to layoffs as companies try to remain profitable. meanwhile recession sits in and stagflation works it's magic.
Would those be clear enough signs for you?
Right on the money. Democrats are 100% responsible if the economy tanks.
Posted by: FreedomLover on March 7, 2008 09:34 AMStill no evidence of a real recession. Certain sectors are tanking(loan industry, auto industry) but otherwise the $12 trillion economic juggernaut continues apace. Nothing can stop this machine.
Posted by: FreedomLover on March 7, 2008 09:41 AMThe economy is slowing because we're engaged in a war in an oil rich region. This causes investors to worry about supply especially since demand has increased significantly since China and India have become world powers. This increased demand leads to higher prices as demand outstrips the supply. The US economy feels it as prices of gas (an oil byproduct) increases. As people pay more for gas, they pass the price increases onto consumers, causing prices to inflate.
It's simple Economics of Oil Dependency, it has very little to do with the perceived repealing of the Bush tax cuts.
You eventually do not have a lot of money left to grow the economy. The best thing for our economy is to make tax cuts permanent and then we would have some stability added to the future.
Oh yeah, cause decreasing our revenue while increasing out spending has worked so well these last seven years. How big is the deficit?
I think a more reasonable argument would be that 9/11 lowered interest rates to unreasonable levels, people took advantage of it to secure low rate loans to bring about economic gain. People expected the economy to keep growing at an uncharacteristically high level and were caught off guard when housing prices hit their peak.
I see rich determined by lower and lower numbers.
I see the dollar becoming worth less and less, maybe there is some sort of correlation here? Hmmm.
What would you define as a REAL recession? According to Wikipedia a Recession is defined as "a decline in a country's gross domestic product (GDP), or negative real economic growth, for two or more successive quarters of a year."
It seems that many economists at many prominent firms are predicting the GDP to drop this quarter making it the second one in a row. Thereby meeting the definition of a recession.
Which is it liberals?
Posted by: pbj on March 7, 2008 10:38 AMThe fourth quarter actually posted a 0.6% growth, so you're a big fat liar.
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/us-economy-slows-06-growth/story.aspx?guid=%7B9C5A0518-549D-4A8D-8666-881C32657085%7D
Posted by: FreedomLover on March 7, 2008 10:50 AMWhich is it liberals?
Posted by pbj at March 7, 2008 10:38 AM
Well Bush is President of the whole UNITED states (though sometimes it's hard to tell, I grant you) But Gregoire is only Governor of one state.
National Economy is in a downturn, local economy seems to be puttering along not great but better than most.
In previous elections I have voted for a lot of republicans including Carlson and Dino, but I won't be voting for any Republicans this year. Although George Bush is not running his unpopularity will sink all republican ships this year.
Posted by: ExPatBrit on March 7, 2008 11:09 AMNational economy is bad, local economy is good. Dem's hold majority's in both places. Dem's have held Governor and local legislature majority since god knows when.
Dem's in DC. have only had it two years and have yet to pass a full budget yet as the majority party, the budget President Bush proposed is the largest in American history (and so is the proposed deficit).
GOP has only themselves to blame.
The fourth quarter actually posted a 0.6% growth, so you're a big fat liar.
I stand corrected, but still I would argue the next two quarters will be negative especially considering the drop in corporate payrolls, oil prices riding, and late mortgage payments continuing to climb. It's going to get worse before it gets better.
Is it me or is he starting to look like Alfred E Neuman !!
BUSH: Party of two - your plane is ready. BUH-bye!
Posted by: Duffman on March 7, 2008 11:50 AMYou're nothing but a liar and nothing you say is of any relevance to me.
Posted by: FreedomLover on March 7, 2008 11:51 AMYou can plug your ears and stick your head in the sand all you want, thats fine with me. When reality comes calling I'll still be here.
I'm glad we've cleared up the confusion.
Posted by: Rick D. on March 7, 2008 12:04 PMAnd don't you worry your pretty little head about those liberally biased facts like the DJIA being down 2,000 points or recent job loss figures.
Like Freedom Lover says, things in America are just doing peachy, only one or two sectors are bad, "nothing can stop this machine". Let's start blaming the MSM for trying to convince us the American economy is in such bad shape.
I however have to agree with Carol... business is booming and profits are up...
even after the dimwitted dem tax punishment.
And regarding the mortgage crisis... please don't forget who caused it: the whiny dems in congress boohooing about the fact so many couldn't qualify and then forced the industry to relax standards. If you are a moron, you actually think the mortgage companies willingly cursed themselves with deadbeats ans defaults.
Gotts hear how you defend this one. Next thing you'll be telling me the Homosexuals are a greater threat to the nation than Muslims.
I however have to agree with Carol... business is booming and profits are up...
Which is why Bush is so keen to get that $600/per person "Economic Stimulus" into our hands, it's because the economy is doing so well we need to give everyone in America more money to spend. That makes total sense Ragnar.
then forced the industry to relax standards.
I thought you we're against over-regulation of the banking industry. Let the free market decide is the GOP mantra right?
you actually think the mortgage companies willingly cursed themselves with deadbeats ans defaults.
The mortgage industry didn't care, they we're too busy posting record profits for Wall Street. They didn't care as long as Wall Street rewarded them favorably. Like any bubble, people were pointing out the problems long before it happened but no one was paying any attention.
This is how people treated his ideas:
A Fannie Mae spokeswoman describes the argument as "preposterous," and notes Mr. Greenspan dismissed the chances of a housing bubble in testimony to Congress last week. Robert Van Order, chief international economist for Freddie Mac, says home prices might decelerate in the months ahead, but they're unlikely to crash because interest rates are so low, the inventory of unsold homes is also low and the economy has proven surprisingly resilient.
Hmmmm, which party had control of both houses of Congress, and the Presidency in 2002? Could it be the Republicans? So much for the blame the Democrats theory.
American citizens do not have voting privileges. We have voting rights.
Also, thanks for admitting how legitimate ballots, cast by legitimate voters, could cause trouble for a candidate who was once shown, in court, to have received the illegal votes of felons. High turnout elections are such a problem in a democracy-- how about having Lori Sotello challenge a whole bunch of legal voters?
Bottom line: anyone in the same party as our miserable failure of a President has a huge risk of going down with him. Worst. President. Ever. might actually have an approval rating in the single digits by October.
Posted by: tensor on March 9, 2008 12:33 PMAmerican citizens do not have voting privileges. We have voting rights.
Also, thanks for admitting how legitimate ballots, cast by legitimate voters, could cause trouble for a candidate who was once shown, in court, to have received the illegal votes of felons. High turnout elections are such a problem in a democracy-- how about having Lori Sotello challenge a whole bunch of legal voters?
Bottom line: anyone in the same party as our miserable failure of a President has a huge risk of going down with him. Worst. President. Ever. might actually have an approval rating in the single digits by October.
Posted by: tensor on March 9, 2008 12:33 PMWhy not? The local economy is good, housing prices are holding their ground, we have not had any terrorist attacks in the last four years, prices for wheat and apples have gone up, Japan & China are importing our apples, Boeing has it's best selling jetliner to date, they lost that Govt. contract but the GOP Pres. Candidate may have something to do with that. Things are pretty good locally.
Can you tell me what will Dino do differently? Will he somehow get control of the state legislature back? I mean the Dem. Legislature certainly has enough vote to override any legislation he might propose.
