February 08, 2008
Tomorrow's Caucus: I'm Still for Mitt
Former Sound Politics contributor and local blogger Tim Goddard has made an appearance on the public blog, all the way from Brazil, to make the case for caucusing on behalf of John McCain.
Tim makes his case well and lays out some fair reasons to consider. For myself, I'll still be caucusing and voting for Mitt Romney (which still has value since his campaign is suspended, not withdrawn). I encourage my fellow Mitt supporters to do likewise.
Personally, I'll cross the bridge of voting for John McCain when I must, even though both Romney and McCain are a better choice than Mike Huckabee or Ron Paul in my view.
So, if you're attending the Republican caucuses at the Edmonds office of the Snohomish County PUD tomorrow you can find me there. If you're still not sure where to caucus, please refer to this post.
P.S. When voting in the primary, remember to follow the rules if you want your vote to count.
Posted by Eric Earling at February 08, 2008
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1. You Republicans should be worried: Obama could get the nomination, and that would be the end for whomever the Republican's nominee might be. Let's face it, the Dems will win if they're smart enough to NOT nominate Hillary!
2. I'd LOVE to know why you think McAmnesty is better than Ron Paul. LOL. Another obvious big gov't LIBERAL pretending to be a conservative. Yeah, yeah that's the ticket, campaign for the guy who's not running. ABSURD!
3. Ha ha, looser! It is not about you, it is about the future of this great country! Ron Paul is the only true conservative in the GOP race, FACE IT! the republicans have no chance against the democrats in the general elections with mccain/huckabee! The only true fiscal conservative who knows how to fix the economy and restore value of the dollar is Dr. Ron Paul www.ronpaul2008.com
4. What's a conservative to do? I can't believe that Alan Keyes is running again. I think he would be great but he probably needs to go for the House or the Senate first and get some experience and exposure. Fred just fizzled too fast. At any rate, I will take a Left Leaner over a Full Lefty any day. Ron Paul is fiscally sound but worldly stupid. The Jihadists are not going to leave us alone if we leave them alone.
5. Tony, they won't have the recruiting power they have now. We're over there with guns. Osama couldn't be happier. At least give a little critical thought to Paul's (and the CIA's) view of blowback. Maybe stop listening to Hannity for a day or two, y'know, let your head clear.
I know a lot of smart, literate people who support Ron Paul.
Why is it our two RP supporters in this discussion aren't? :-)
1. "You Republicans should be worried: Obama could get the nomination, and that would be the end for whomever the Republican's nominee might be. Let's face it, the Dems will win if they're smart enough to NOT nominate Hillary!"
But the Dems are not smart enough to not nominate the B, they are Dumb enough to do dis.......Cuz dems are all really are two sided, they come out for Obama, but hope and believe that SHE is the Q annointed! And the Lemmings will follow her to the alter of defeat. Because she is a QQQ BBB
Where has Billy Boy been lately? Quite quiet if I might add.
But in the meantime, all you Dumb ass Dems are all bowing down to the alter of Obama Hussain, because it feels good...
But we all know the Q B annointed will be your pick.
I look forward to her running
They closed comments on the other post, but I did want to help you out.
"ad hominem" is not a plural noun, brother. As a phrase it can be an adjective OR an adverb, but not a noun. You would have to say "mindless ad hominem attacks" or "mindless arguments ad hominem".
Hopefully that helps! I know nothing deflates a witty comeback faster than when you try to use latin phrases, and do so incorrectly!
and not for nothing, but if there are any literate, intelligent people who are actively supporting Ron Paul, I would check their recent medical history to look for head injuries. Why not, the Bush administration is getting rid of our civil liberties anyway, you should be be able to get at that stuff.
Will: nope. The full phrase is "argumentum ad hominem," which is, of course, a noun; but it is perfectly justified in English to drop the word "argumentum" and use only the adjective, since every Latin fallacy name contains the word "argumentum" and it is therefore implied, and easily inferred.
Better luck next time.
Anyone who reads the McCain story about his cellmate sewing an American flag would find it impossible not to vote for him.
McCain has earned the right to be President.
Sewing A Flag...
It looks to me like Romney's Mormonism ultimately had a lot to do with his failure to run as strong as he could have. While it didn't seem to matter in most places in the end, it was a constant in his campaign. It helped Huckabee pick up steam in Iowa and ultimately in the South.
It may also be the factor in his campaign that forced him into right wing positions out of step with his life prior to this campaign and led to the widespread perception that Romney was a fake social conservative. He overcompenstated on the Mormon question by becoming increasing stridently right wing on issues like immigration and things that matter to to evangelicals.
It appears that Romney is now trying to solidify his right wing credentials to chase the nomination in 2012. One big question is whether Romney can ever overcome the perception that his chase for right wing support continues to expose him as a fake.
14. Sorry. #12 was in response to Pudge's smackdown.
"I'm still for Mitt"....here's my take on why Mitt is no longer in it.
He lost Florida. If he would have won Florida he would be the front runner right now. He lost Florida because McCain won South Carolina. If McCain did not win South Carolina then McCain would not have won Florida.
Mitt Romney voters and Fred Thompson voters who refused to vote for Huckabee in South Carolina dug their own graves. "I'm still for Mitt" is the reason that Mitt Romney may not be the nominee.
Why do I say 'may not'? Well, if "I'm still for Mitt" wants to keep McCain from taking the nomination they still can. They need a convention battle and the only way to get to that point is to ensure that McCain doesn't get enough delegates. "I'm for Mitt" should be voting Huckabee from here on out. But they won't, just like they didn't in South Carolina.
I respect and like John McCain. I will proudly vote for him, should he win the nomination.
But no one earns the right to be President. No one. The Presidency is not a right of any kind.
I will state my preference for Fred Thompson today, and barring no delegate nominations who support Thompson, will vote for Romney-supporting delegates, if available. If none of them are available, I will then vote for McCain supporters.
17. An interesting option. I had figured I had to vote for McCain because Romney was out, but I guess you are able to huh? I may do that this afternoon.
I just got back from the democratic caucus.There was no place close to park,thousands have shown up.
It was as if the first 500 got Obama and Clinton bobble heads,and I was somewhere in the thousands.
When you create a fire drill out of the caucus with that many people, it takes longer to sign up all those people.The line was huge.There was no way to sign all those people up before 1.
I bet Hillary supporters crowded the gym and took all the seats. This is a way to run a railroad,not an election process where your vote means nothing, and the caucus means something for the first 500 who get the free bobble heads.
Just got back from my caucus where I supported Mitt Romney.
It's good to know there is passion for Rossi, but McCain is going to get royally trounced in Washington in November. Folks have had enough.
Sorry Chris Vance & Doug, your tactics suck and have out us in minority status. Let's stop trying to be Democratlite and start being the true anti-statist party where we will attract the folks so fed up with everyhting they don't bother voting anymore.
No place to park, Publicbulldog? Look, you were supposed to take public transit, walk, or bicycle to your caucus. You're a Democrat, aren't you?
I walked to my Republican Caucus.
Considering what's at stake on your side you should have known enough to show up early.
Thanks for the laugh.
AP, what kind of election strategy is this:
"Let's stop trying to be Democratlite and start being the true anti-statist party where we will attract the folks so fed up with everyhting they don't bother voting anymore."
That's almost brilliant. I mean last presidential election there was over 82% turnout in this state, I'm sure we can win an election by ignoring those folks and instead focusing on that 18% that are supposedly so fed up they didn't vote. I think Obama has that percentage covered, do you suggest we take a far left anti-war turn to appeal to those folks? One step forward, 5 steps back, the story of Puget Sound Republicans
22. AP, another thing, the reason the Republicans are in the minority in this state is because of the opinions of people like you, we're there because we are considered bible-toting, anti-public education, far right-wing activists. Public perception has to change before we can fix that.
23. I agree with you, Doug. We also have had a huge influx of liberals from other places in the last twenty years. Demographics in my view is the single largest factor in the Republican Party's demise in Washington. It's not enough that we are dissed every day in the press and in the schools.
I am on two crutches.I try to avoid the par 5 distances. No bobblehead for me.
25. Sounds like you at least had a reasonable excuse for driving. I doubt if all the rest of those Dem caucus attendees that drove and rendered it impossible to park had the same. It always the same with Dems...do as I say, not as I do.
Update: Looks like "I'm still for Mitt" has successfully helped McCain get closer to the nomination by helping him in both Louisiana and Washington.
Romney has over 200 delegates. If McCain doesn't make his mark then Romney has big power at the convention. He can come out and make the ticket choice Romney/Huckabee or McCain/Huckabee by simply telling Huckabee that he will be McCain's running mate and give him the delegates if Huckabee doesn't put him at the head of the ticket. Huck would have the power to decide who would be the nominee, but in that case it could be Romney. However, looks like "I'm still for Mitt" will ensure that won't happen.