December 12, 2007
Gregoire Moves to the Left on Viaduct Replacement
The pragmatist in me says Governor's Gregoire's new found openness toward the surface-transit option to replace the Viaduct is simply a case of realism taking hold. Earlier this year I said it was the most politically feasible option and still hold that view.
That said, the "good, cynical political scientist" my Political Science Department Chair in college urged me to become sees other motives. Back in the spring Gregoire's Seattle base was very unhappy with her about how the Viaduct issue was being handled. Now they're agitated about other matters; I mean really agitated.
Gregoire can't afford to underperform the rest of the Democratic ticket next year in the Puget Sound metropolitan region like she did in 2004. She has to throw her base a bone.
Never mind how ridiculous it is that a replacement for the Viaduct, whatever it might be, is still being "studied" rather than acted upon.
Posted by Eric Earling at December 12, 2007
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Gregoire got her mind right boss.
Now Seattle will get to pretend they are saving a whale,salmon and frog,and tie up traffic from Vancouver Wa. to Bellingham just to get revenue..
All just to make Seattle happy.What a flip flop.
The Seattle developers must have donated to her re election campaign. Cary Moon is next on the Governors staff. What a fraud.
Notice how most of the meetings are in Seattle,and the Big Three(Seattle King County,and WSDOT) are deciding a policy that effects the whole I-5 corridor.
The people have to wake up to what is going on here.
We all cant move into Seattle.
We can't stop all our I-5 traffic so seattle can funnel traffic into a Traffic count = revenue scam.
2. Washington State can tear down all their by passes now and let the other cities save a whale,slamon,and frog too.
What a disaster....
Dumb tax happy Democrats!!!!
3. Broadening the context for discussion to most of Seattle simply makes the problem impossible to solve. In a backhand way Gregoire is saying let's just repair it.
4. I don't live in Seattle, so it would only occasionally inconvenience me if there was a surface street instead of the artery that now carries thousands of cars a day. I hope that the Moonbats get their way with the Viaduct. It will further galvanize the rest of the state against Gregoire in 2008, and it might even wake up the normal people in Seattle who will be angry with the gridlock, to the point that they vote out a key Democrat.
Watch carefully in the next few months as the MSM attempts to re-make the Queen's image. Coverage of the flooding has attempted to portray her as warm, caring and compassionate towards rural and small town folks. The same "let them eat cake" Queen, who has virtually barricaded herself in Olympia (with her union and lobbiest buddies) has exited her cave and suddenly grown a heart for the working classes.
I watched in '04 and '06 as the MSM did the same for Dimwit Patty Murray and Do-nothing Maria Cantwell. The Seattle media danced them out as heroines of the masses for months prior to their respective re-elections, and they now do the same for the Queen. I only hope the people of Washington State remember the first three years of the Queens reign, rather than the media blitz.
The best thing one can do with a fool is to provide vast quantities of rope in hopes the fool will inadvertently hang herself.
-let the idiots at WSDOT and the Dems bring commerce to a halt with another decade of torturing the majority of motorists and subsidizing the minority: HOV lanes, ferry frolics, light rail, SLUT, squirrel bridges
-study the viaduct until it literally collapses, rendering Seattle uninhabitable economically
-all the traffic issues will ulimately solve themselves when Boeing relocates the vast bulk of manufacturing to S Carolina as employees, parts can just barely move due to traffic gridlock in all daylight hours. Boeing has just about had it with Wa State........
When will we, meaning a majority of Washingtonians, start electing adults who can gaze past their own navel and own feelings, and actually say NO to whining, sniveling super minority advocacy groups, like ah, da, teachers unions, ferry rope draggers, state employees, light rail bedwetters, highly skilled radar operators masquerading as WSP officers, Good Lord the list seems endless in this state.
In some ways, I am tempted to vote Dem just so that the process of trashing this state into reality is accelerated......
7. Do any of the article on the Governor's new "interest " in Viaduct options include how much she is going to spend on reinvestigating what has already been looked at by DOT? How long ? Will it be another appropriately named
"Blue Ribbon" committee? Does Norm Dicks have any more children needing a job that the Governor can appoint to head the committee?
Just another reason for me to stay the heck out of Seattle.
Hey Mayor with all this traffic, how are your Medics & Fire fighters going to respond where they are needed? Dummies!
9. I believe they are doing a retrofit now. They are repairing the bad stuff. Still, the recommendations of the old codgers- the structural and soils engineers- should be followed.
Well the Spokane Street viaduct was fixed without a problem. Wait that was before the green extremes came along.
To you engineers that do the polticians bidding shame on you. Oh wait you're like the doctors that take the oath to do no harm and then abort babies day in and day out. Like them you are contributing to the destruction of civilization. What in the heck is wrong with your thinking that Choice in Transportation does not include every Choice? I'd take all your licenses away if I could because you are not serving the civilizations interest and you are doing harm and your did stamp those drawings and reports.
Any one killed on that viaduct if it collapses should be a murder charge for everyone of you that have worked on it and the death penalty for
Doug 'Delay' MacDonald.
Anyone that recommends tearing it down should have their civilization cut off - no power, no water, no car, nothing that comes by truck should allowed in your hands.
Why not you engineers are working to do that to others!!!
It seems like just yesterday that the viaduct was declared unstable and likely to collapse at any moment, doesn't it?
Could it be that just passing the gas tax increase made the structure repair itself?
12. Flip-Flop Gregoire
Its the money still there to replace the Viaduct or has it been spent some where else like the Chehalis funds.
It's time to stop the new gas tax now that the replacement won't be built, and we the citizens are owed a refund on the already collected gas tax.
14. Ahhh Come now just because we had a gas tax crammed down our throats because the bridge was going to fall with in the next few months is no reason to bad mouth the queen of pork aka our gov.
She has more plans than a stray dog has fleas and all of them for our own good all it will take is a few zillion of tax dollars and her reelection to complete,
As I understand the tax freedom day is now in july that is the day that all of our income belongs to us all of the rest has gone to the goverment as a tax or a fee so we have plenty of money to finance her demo crowd.
REELECT THE QUEEN OF PORK
The Viaduct is being fixed right now, in the fill where it is most vulnerable just south of downtown. But facts are sometimes inconvenient in politics.
This is hardly a play to the left. It is practical politics that might actually lead to lower costs for all of us. It is a state highway.
Finally, the big new multibillion dollar freeway in a fancy tunnel promotedinto oblivion by former Transportation Secretary Doug MacDonald is dead.
Taxpayers ought to be having a celebration.
The Elliot Bay Bridge.
It would be gorgeous. You could build it with the viaduct still in place. Just swing the lanes over after the bridge is built minimum down time. Plus you get your waterfront park/greenspace.
I have heard the arguments against a suspension bridge. It is my understanding that they don't apply to the cable-stayed technology.
A group of cable-stayed engineers came in and spoke to state transportation engineers. Probably on the condition that they wouldn't discuss the meeting later. Sure enough, the WA drones have never said a word about it. What a pathetic, corrupt state.
I agree the surface option is what we are going to end up with. Need to call Seattle's bluff about not needing limited access vehicles lanes by converting I-5 downtown exits into through lanes part of the deal.
Half the viaduct traffic would use I-5 if it was not so crowded. Two through lanes each way would be a fair swap for the lost viaduct lanes
Won't happen, but worth trying
18. The state should replace the Viaduct as planed.
People who responed on, Sound politics & the news media about the Viaduct should state how long they have lived here. And if they don't like the the way things are going-------- GO HOME--------