November 25, 2007
Local Crime Takes A Presidential Twist

The tragic death of a Graham couple has taken a unexpected twist giving the case a national profile, with Mitt Romney calling for the resignation of the Massachusetts judge who dismissed the request of prosecutor's to hold the now accused killer behind bars. Wire coverage is available via the Times and the P-I.

The whole story has a couple odd twists, including the fact the alleged killer (who previously served time for killing his own mother) had threatened to assassinate Romney and other Massachusetts officials. In addition, the judge was approved unanimously after Romney's nomination by the independently elected Governor's Council which gives final approval for such appointments in Massachusetts.

Predictably, the issue has become fodder on the campaign trail as Romney and Rudy Giuliani campaigned in New Hampshire yesterday. Giuliani, of Bernie Kerik fame, isn't on the firmest of ground here but any rational campaign would make the same choice to try and bludgeon Romney with the topic given his lead in New Hampshire.

Anyone want to take a guess if this issue will come up at the Republican YouTube debate this coming week?

UPDATE: formatting fixed.

Posted by Eric Earling at November 25, 2007 09:18 AM | Email This
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1. I find Romney very hypocritical in this situation. He is too quick to "jump-on-the-bandwagon" and not really state the obvious. The obvious is that he made a mistake when originally nominating this judge. Which also begs the question, will he make the same mistake as President? We have seen President's nominees be totally different than their original intent. David Souter is the classic example, but even Sandra Day O'Conner was more middle-of-the-road than I am sure what Reagon had intended when he nominated her.

Posted by: tc on November 25, 2007 09:56 AM
2. This Massachusetts "judge", as well as the prosecuter, should be themselves jailed for failing to see the danger of releasing this sub-human with no bail.

Now let's wait and see how Washington's judicial system charges and tries a murderous, career criminal. Death penalty, anyone? A no-brainer, me thinks....but, when reality sinks in, I'm surprised we haven't released him on PR already.

Posted by: Saltherring on November 25, 2007 11:02 AM
3. I know the person that discovered the bodies. I blame our own governor on this one.

The WSP Intellegence Unit was in the area 1 1/2 weeks prior to the murders. They were there to observe. Remember Romney was made aware of his existence in Wa State before his visit. But nothing was done. If WSP was aware, why didn't they arrest him. These 2 young people would be alive today.

Our governor is kept up on matters of the Intellegence Unit, there is no excuse, she is soft on criminals. Her record speaks for itself.

Posted by: Chris on November 25, 2007 01:16 PM
4. He appointed the judge.

Case closed, as far as I can see.

Posted by: Independent Voter on November 25, 2007 01:40 PM
5. The number one job of the justice system is Public Safety, not ensuring the privacy rights of their failed prison rehabilitation efforts.

They system fails miserably in that regard every time they secretly release a violent felon among us.

Time and again, innocent citizen's suffer the proof that the justice system is conducting lethal rehabilitation experiments on the common citizen.

The justice system is an accompolice in the Mauck murders.

It is interesting to note that local pedophile Jack McClellan, who has committed no crimes can be tracked by the citizenry every second of his day, but convicted murderers are set freely adrift on their own "their own recognizance".

The case proves the deterrance of capital punishment. Had it been used in the case of Tavares the mother killer, we would still have two more contributing citizens among us.

In essence, our country doesn't have a death penalty, it is used 40 times a year, and yet recent studies have shown that it still acts as a deterrant. By a factor of 18 fold, whatever that means.

There are 20,000 murders committed each year, probably 40,000 violent assualts where the victim is left for dead and many more manslaughter cases where it couldn't be proven that the assailant "meant" to kill their victim.

As a murderer, your chances of being put death, IF you are successfully charged, are extremely low. Very surprising that the death penalty still remains a deterrant at all.

Romney has made a start by essentially saying the justice system is screwed up. I'm voting for him on this issue alone. When he re-directs his complaint directly at liberal judges and lousy laws, then I will vote for him with glee.

Posted by: Bart Cannon on November 25, 2007 02:05 PM
6. I don't know which (Rudy or Mitt) would be toughest on crime. I know Rudy has the best track record but Mitt has good ideas, he just was never able to implement them in his state. I would guess that with a Democratic Congress Rudy would have the better chance at getting something done as he has done it, with a Republican Congress, Mitt would be better because he could get some stuff through. Soooo on the issue of crime, it looks like Mitt would fair no better than Bush has been doing lately on his issues...a do nothing Congress because of some headbutting. No Paroles, Pro-death penalty - all good stuff coming from Mitt, but the big ideas with no action won't get anything done.

I didn't agree with his blanket policy as governor of not granting any pardons based on his ideology of not overturning a jury's decision. It's his job to decide if a Pardon (or clemency) should be granted and he just gave up that power, I'd hate to see that in a President.

Posted by: Doug on November 25, 2007 04:24 PM
7. Mitt Romney appointed the judge, which was a mistake. Calling for her to resign is a step in the right direction. However, it will probably take a spotlight by O'Reilly (as he has done in the past) to get some action and put deserved pressure on this judge - immuned from accountability. She was evidently a liberal judge - many of whom believe in rehabilitation and throwing these cold-blooded killers back into society - no skin off their nose. That action was despicable and there should be a price for this judge to pay !

Posted by: KS on November 25, 2007 04:27 PM
8. KS and others, I don't think you quite understand how it works in MA. I lived there. The Governor's Council -- which most MA residents don't even understand, and they probably have no idea who the Council members are, even if you tell them their names -- is an elected position and all judges are essentially appointed by them. The governor cannot choose the members of the Council, and therefore has no real authority over who the judges are.

Ideally, of course, you would have an ideologically diverse Council. But you don't. When I was last there a few years ago, every single member of it was a liberal Democrat. So sure, Romney could simply reject all the appointees from the Council. But they would just come back with more of the same, and since almost no one knows who the Council is or what they do, the Governor will get all the bad press for not filling the judicial vacancies.

Romney had no real choice here. To blame him is to not understand how things actually work in MA.

Posted by: pudge on November 25, 2007 05:15 PM
9. Pudge is right.

From what I understand Romney didn't even know the gender or names of the committee preference. He chose based on their recomendations.

Posted by: chris on November 25, 2007 05:39 PM
10. I would hope that the people of Washington are more outraged than those of Mass.

It doesn't appear so though. The boston herald has ran several stories per day on this murder, and their pitiful criminal system.

Washington State has ran a few, and the News Tribune gets the Gold Star for coverage.

It is too bad this didn't happen in KC, and to a prominent citizen to boot. Maybe there would be "outrage".

Now the prayers of the families can only be answered by Pierce County and their desire for Justice (death penalty). I hope those Liberals in KC keep their nose out of it, since it wasn't important in the beginning, and only important when a Presidental Canidate was at risk.(even then it was only a republican so no emergency)

There are many questions unanswered, but the Queen should answer a few. She knew he was wanted and dangerous.

Posted by: chris on November 25, 2007 05:48 PM
11. Why wasn't there an extradiction warrant from Pierce County? Then it wouldn't had matter what the bail was!

Posted by: George on November 25, 2007 06:54 PM
12. George @ 11

Pierce county wasn't aware of his past. That is the sad point in all of this.

The WSP and "others" in the know, knew about him except for those closest to him.

It is obvious that protecting a presidental canidate is more important than the citizens that could support the same canidate.

Posted by: chris on November 25, 2007 08:27 PM
13.
What was Romney doing being the governor of Massachusetts anyway?

Shouldn't he have been the governor of Utah.

Posted by: John A. Bailo on November 26, 2007 12:27 AM
14. YOU ALL DO KNOW GIULIANI'S FATHER WAS A VIOLENT FELON, right?

Harold Giuliani was convicted of armed robbery and sent to Sing Sing prison. In most states, he couldn't even have voted for his own son.

Have many presidents have had fathers who were convicted felons?

Oh, yeah, none.

Another proud Republican candidacy.

Rudy failed to acknolwedge, denied, his father's status as a jailbird and always held him up as some kind of icon, rather than a neighborhood lout.

Posted by: death on November 26, 2007 12:55 AM
15. Ahhh Death.

JFK father loved the Hilter.

so your point is?

Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on November 26, 2007 06:27 AM
16. Speaking of "death" (@ 14), Ted Kennedy left a young woman to die in chest deep water after crashing his car into a pond. All he cared about was saving his own drunken, worthless hide. And the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts returns him to the U.S. Senate every six years.

Posted by: Saltherring on November 26, 2007 07:05 AM
17. What chris and pudge said. The liberal posters above need to reread and understand the issue before popping off. They should have learned by now that the crap put out by their liberal sources are usually wrong.

Romney didn't have the choice to appoint as Gregoire does.

Romney didn't have the choice to appoint as Gregoire does. Stupid system- probably, but that is what it is.

John Bailo, bigoted comment on Romney that is beneath your normal posts.

Posted by: swatter on November 26, 2007 07:31 AM
18. How "screwed" up is Mass. anyway? They notify the Romney campaign that the felon was in the Seattle area, but fail to notify the local authorities.

Posted by: tc on November 26, 2007 07:38 AM
19. swatter, yes, it is a terrible stupid system. I hated it while I lived in MA. There are a lot of bad judges in MA, many of them appointed by essentially helpless Republican governors.

And when we did get bad judges, it was nearly impossible to get rid of them. See Maria Lopez, who had a long history of letting sex predators out of prison sentences.

I never thought it would become an issue for me out here in WA, so now I hate it even more! :-)

Posted by: pudge on November 26, 2007 07:43 AM
20. Why wasn't there an extradiction warrant from Pierce County? Then it wouldn't had matter what the bail was!

From what I heard on Kirby's show this morning, Massachusetts only extradites people who flee to other east coast states. If they escape to the west, they just let them go.

Posted by: RBW on November 26, 2007 12:53 PM
21. It ain't just MA that's f***ed up.

Mrs. Murderer (that's Tavares in French) help her mail-order hubby stash the gun in the drink off Pt. Defiance. Golly, does anyone think the Pierce Co prosecutor, in righteous indignation, charged her w/ conspiracy after the fact? No, he charged her w/ a misdemeanor. And a ridiculously low bail FOR HELPING A MURDERER!! Actually, about the same as a DUI.

Y'see the CORRUPT "criminal" justice system ain't about enforcing laws, protecting Americans, or just being decent and honest. It's about CORRUPTION, PURE AND SIMPLE. Every revolving door prosecutor and judge knows that if the criminals were truly given decent sentences for their crimes, there'd be fewer judges and prosecutors. It's a PURELY CORRUPT SYSTEM.

It's about $$$. It's about a job-for-life. There is REALLY NO DIFFERENCE between the cops, the prosecutors, the judges and the criminals. ALL OF THEM ARE PURE EVIL!

Posted by: cmiklich on November 26, 2007 05:16 PM
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