November 14, 2007
Outrage Continues Over Flaying of Archbishop Murphy
High school sports writer Craig Smith, aka "Sideline Smitty," took a swing in yesterday's Seattle Times sports page at the Archbishop Murphy debacle. Smitty expresses the stunned disgust I have yet to see disputed by any soul I've spoken to about the story. The WIAA ought to be ashamed.
Posted by Eric Earling at November 14, 2007
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1. My reaction to this is completely visceral. What a pathetic organization...bureaucrats all. Will the GOOD people of WA rise up on this total breach of basic human decency? I thought it was always "for the children." These folks have invited and earned whatever comes their way.
2. What a fine example of 'sportsmanship'& 'character'! Sickening! :(
Amen, Eric (pun intended).
So, so sad.
Yeah, that sucks.
Sidenote: Are you going to comment on the Clowncils' tax increases, or is that boat going to be missed (pun intended) like the I-747 decision?
The Murphy situation would be perfect for Paul Harvey or several other bloggers- Newsbusters, Sean Hannity, O'Reilly, Airhead America(nyah), Daily Kos (nyah). I'm not going to pass it on, but this is the type of stuff to fill up the airwaves.
Or, going back to Bryan Suits, he would tackle this if he were still there. Suppose Shrambo and Carlson would take it on? Where's the Kirby?
And where is Mike Siegel when you need him?
This is another great example of what will happen when Libs fully take control of the police and courts; there will be summary executions in the streets when you drop gum from your back pocket. But Olympia Rioters will get a pass.
This piles on the strange acts schools do when they see plastic guns on toy soldiers, Tylenol rage and hyperventilating at the site of a Christian bookstore within 300 feet of a school campus.
Hey you bitter angry Cascade Conference AD's oh boy don't you look so smug in front of the mirror. There is rules and there are rules. The rules never cover every situation that is why this one was a no brainer. But hey next time you get summarily execute another team won't you?? Of course you never will again. Your chicken crap. Ya know ½ a day of poking around your meeting minutes will find how full of it you are.
You're the same ones that are going to allow a boy to cheerlead as a girl in Mount Vernon next year?? Ya you good black and whiters there with the rule book yep ya - Smug Alert!!
And Bellingham you have NO class!! You would have declined to play Mark Morris you LOST to ABM.
Once again "Public" Education attacks and destroys society.
Separation of School and State anyone?
To the ABM Team and School nothing but class, again nothing but class. Wronged for being right when it was mistake and not a wrong.
WIAA - your right but really you're wrong.
7. #6 EXCELLENT post! Ditto! [except for the 'liberal' slam...] :)
Zero tolerance was in many ways a conservative invention that liberals have unfortunately adopted as well. The whole idea of having people make decisions, as opposed to robots, is that they can exercise discretions.
Rules and laws are important, but they exist to serve justice, not create it. Its a shame the people on the WIAA have forgotten this.
I don't think zero tolerance is a conservative invention, unless you mean without conservatives there wouldn't be civilization where rules are made to be obeyed. I can probably agree with you, there.
I think it was the Dr. Spock invention on how to raise kids got us away from rules are rules.
The NCAA and WIAA have too many rules and because they were made by liberals, they became too cumbersome and ridiculous by a long shot.
And Giffy, every rule or law that has been made was good intentioned and would solve the problem it was meant to.
However, it is the emotionalism and ME and NOW generations where rules and laws are made on emotions rather than serious discourse that causes all these rules that are made to be broken.
10. Swatter, I'd love to know how you know that the rules "were made by liberals". lol.
11. New Deal by Roosevelt and the Raw Deal by Johnson and the Crooked Deal by Carter? Yeah, you did get me though, Bruce.
Amazing how the WIAA takes the season from AM because of a violation that AM SELF-REPORTED, but allows Garfield to play two players who commited FELONY ROBBERY.
Can anyone say DOUBLE-STANDARD.
13. You call it "DOUBLE-STANDARD", I call it typical and ugly anti-Catholic bias... especially in this state, with its phony Catholic Governor and 2 phony-Catholic senators.
14. Can anyone say DOUBLE-STANDARD.
Somewhere, someplace I read that they said it's because they have rules against students playing without up to date physicals, but nothing against students playing when they are accused of or have admitted to violent felonies.
Talking of outrageous, have you all seen this
? And nobody was arrested? WTF?
16. If it hadn't been a private Catholic school, I'm sure all would have been forgiven. I'm with Ragnar on this.
17. Stop and think why it is we have a requirement for a student athletic to get a physical examination in the first place. This is a serious requirement for the health of our kids. If the requirement adds value then it must also have the weight of the current ruling. Everyone knows the rules, students, parents, coaches and athletic directors. If a physical exam does not add value then are we willing to take the risk for our kids health?
Dan@17 writes, "Stop and think why it is we have a requirement for a student athletic to get a physical examination in the first place. This is a serious requirement for the health of our kids."
Oh Dan, there you go again with your liberal nanny statism. If kids don't get checkups, that's their problem. Why should the secular progressive union-controlled schools insist that our kids get checkups? This just puts on on the slippery slope toward commmunist forced healthcare like Hillary wants.
And "stop and think" before complaining about liberals? What sort of nonsense is that?
Dan, you completely missed the point. Yes, getting a physical is important. Yes, the coach and athletic director should have known this soon after it expired. One minor detail... the coach and athletic director was DYING OF CANCER
when this kid should have gotten the physical, and DIED
four days after this kid's previous physical expired, so the coach and athletic director was probably just a little preoccupied at the time and because of that little detail, no one caught it. When the school finally caught it and self reported
the infraction, they had to forfeit the entire season. Seriously, do you really think that's a fair punishment for the violation given the extenuating circumstances?
But you're right, someone should never let their own death prevent them from doing their job. I mean, really, where were this guy's priorities?
swatter, Zero tolerance began, if memory serves, with drug policy and sentencing standards. The argument being that liberal judges were being light on crime and so laws were passed to ensure that convicts received harsh sentences. The main supports of this were law and order conservatives.
This then spread into school policy with things likes guns, drugs, sexual harassment, and a myriad of others behaviors. Both the left and the right applied the standard to causes they supported under the belief that strict enforcement was the answer.
The problem is that not all violations are created equal. Form a purely legal standpoint the champion marksman who leaves her ammo in the car is the same as the gang member who brings a handgun to school. However I think we can agree that they should not be treated the same.
The trick is how we can do that given the fact that it is hard to get good people in to the system and that the media will over report and incorrectly report any perceived failures leading to more cries for "zero tolerance".
21. I have never understood the logic of wrecking the athletic careers of an entire team of honest players for an infraction by one player or one coach. In the case of college sports it's even worse. One kid takes an under the table donation and suddenly the whole program gets banned from bowl competetion for years. It only hurts the honest players who did everything right. The one player who did something wrong goes on to play Pro ball and make millions. Where's the justice in that?
Rainer Beach Highschool has new basketball phenoms transfer in every year. Many requiring, and receiving hardship waivers from the WIAA to make the transfer 'legal.'
When the one of the driving principles of the WIAA is to make sure athletic priorities do not supplant academic priorities, why would they let anyone transfer to Rainer Beach HS?
23. I think the WIAA needs to be put on notice to not destroy any records and then be audited and investigated and asked to explain 'EXACTLY WHAT DO YOU DO HERE'.
24. I don't know that Liberal vs Conservative adds anything to this discussion, but clearly this was an
absolutely MORONIC decision that does nothing so clear as to totally discredit the WIAA. Bellingham should take the initiative to play out the remainder
wearing the Archbishop Murphy uniforms.
The WIAA will bend all the rules when it comes to maintaining the status quo of political correctness. The clear message here is that is it OK for illiterate thugs to play, but heaven forbid a form is a couple weeks out of date. I am going to nominate these clowns for O'Reilly's Pinhead award.
For all those trying to justify this despicable decision with the "zero tolerance" nonsense, get a clue!!! Zero Tolerance was started with regard to ILLEGAL activities, not common sense. Coach Ennis was a big part of these young men's lives. The team obviously wanted to shine for what they knew would be the last season with their coach. WIAA owes the team, the school, and the community a front page apology. Fat chance we'll get that. Grrrrrrrrr.
26. Here is the email address for Patriot or Pinhead nominations: email@example.com.
27. Thanks for the info, Giffy. I see where you are coming from. However, rules like these were in place in the 50s.
28. Burbadee, let us know when it is on.
29. Unless I misread something, this player was a multi-sport athlete and had completed a physical for another sport. If that's the case, then this really is getting nitpicky. Even if he had gotten a physical for football, it is not a guarantee they would have caught some of the life-threatening obscure problems that occasionally pop up. For example, several years ago here a young man died while he was playing racquetball. He had a condition that would not have shown up on a routine physical, but would have required some specialized testing to uncover.
30. Swatter: I don't know how the O'Reilly show schedules the Patriot and Pinhead segments, so I would just check his website or read his segment on the Fox News website. If anyone here knows a better way to check on this, please post!
There's got to be more to this story than meets the eye. Like is AM guilty of scouring the state for top talent ala Bellevue? And could possibly their competitors have complained to Colbrese about this? And could Colbrese have been looking for some way to send a message that such recruiting is frowned upon?
I'm just asking.
My question also, but, it seems the whole story has focused just on this one issue, so I have assumed it is at face value.
However, for a new school to get so good and so quickly and so often, it requires recruiting. But recruiting more than is associated with getting kids in a private school? I don't know. More than asking Mr. Smith not to send his kid to the Northshore School District, but to send the kid to AM? I don't know.
I have to take the story at face value. Don't forget the milquetoast AM president, either. He has to have a lot of culpability. Just has to.
33. However, for a new school...
I just hopped on their website, and it says the school was founded in 1988, so I'm not sure I'd call it "new". I would think that 19 years would be long enough to establish a decent football program.
Also, I've never heard anything about their president, but I would think that sports physicals compliance would probably fall out of his area of responsibility.
34. Swatter @ 32# Your belief that Tom Lord, Pres. at Archbishop Murphy is a milquetoast is way off base. Just because he didn't rant and rave in front of the TV cameras, doesn't mean he wasn't fighting the good fight for the football team. He filed every appeal that was available, and even tried to get an injuction in court. You ask, "How does a new school get so good so fast?"
Well first off it's not a new school. It has been around almost 20 years. Secondly, When you start your football program, you get the Seattle Times' " Coach of the Century" to come out of retirement to lead that team. Success begets success. The boys and girls soccer teams have won a total of three state championships. If you are a parent looking for a faith based school with solid academics for your kid, you need look no further than Archbishop Murphy.
It's a new school. Read on the web page when the new school opened.
Sometimes those in charge have to resort to drastic means to get their points across. The kids did.
No one is blaming the school and their policies at this moment. I believe I stated I would take the story at face value until I heard different.
Kevin, a lot of times there are sour grapes why one school does better than others in athletics. You can just take the UW experience as an example as to what the jealously begets.
It seems to most of us that the infraction was so minor that there just had to be something underlying such a drastic measure. That's all.
36. It's a new school. Read on the web page when the new school opened.
I did... it is not a new school. Yes, in 1999 it moved to a new facility and changed it's name, but it was still the same school, same students, same teams, same faculty, same management. Schools are renamed all the time, and they occasionally move locations. That doesn't mean the school itself is new.
37. Whereas I am no fan of the WIAA and their arbitrary and capricious ways when it comes to determining eligibility, they are quite consistent in applying the prescribed penalty for use of an ineligible player, to wit: forfeiture. Every year, teams that have used ineligible players end up forfeiting some or all of their games. Occasionally this will happen on the eve of the playoffs. ATM wasn't the first and won't be the last, but they certainly weren't being punished for their prior success. They were simply being treated the same as all other WIAA member teams.
38. The WIAA can't win... How long ago was it that they dealt with Chief Sealth girls basketball??? Maybe they learned a lesson there and decided to enforce the rule as written before they got burned again. Every school knows what happens when you use in-eligible players. It is the schools responsibility to make sure all players are (legally) eligible prior to participating in sports. While I commend AM for coming forth on there own and not waiting to get "caught", this isn't the WIAA's problem. Had AM continued on in the playoffs, how "fair" would it be to every team that they eliminated from the playoffs?
df - Should there be different punishments for the cause of ineligibilty, or should any ineligibility always be punished the same way?
Should a self-reported inadvertant paperwork issue, quickly, easily, and "legally" correctable, have a less severe sanction than intentional actions designed to benefit a team by circumventing and hiding the rules infractions?
Should the destruction of a whole season, and dozens of eligible players, be the first recourse or the last?
All student-athletes, especially those that have done everything required of them by WIAA rules, should be able to expect better treatment from the WIAA.
I hope that through this latest episode the WIAA has finally learned that they need to add common sense to their rulebook and that they are reminded that they are there to promote and lift up the student athletes, not tear them down and destroy them.