October 03, 2007
Mrs. Gregoire's taxpayer-funded campaign tour

Mrs. Gregoire has the first of her town hall meetingstaxpayer-funded campaign events this evening at Town Hall in Seattle.

Curiously, when I mentioned this in a post last week, a commenter self-identified only as "GL" posted (#18) "Governor Gregoire's listening tour is actually REQUIRED by the legislature. They passed a law, they appropriated money for it, take it out on them." The comment came from a State Office of Financial Management IP address, so my hunch is the commenter was OFM spokesman Glenn Kuper, who wrote this press release for the Governor's Office:

These public meetings are required and funded by the Legislature, which passed a law in 2005 requiring that the Governor seek public involvement and input on state priorities.
It's more than a bit of a stretch for Gregoire to claim that her town hall meetings were required by the legislature.

An observer in Olympia explained that they would be referring to ESHB 1242, which includes (Sec. 2):

The governor shall communicate statewide priorities to agencies for use in developing biennial budget recommendations for their agency and shall seek public involvement and input on these priorities.
The source adds:
there is nothing in the bill that passed in 2005 that requires the governor to go on a "listening tour," much less to have eight such events around the state, complete with pollster. All that shows up in the act is the innocuous phrase "seek public involvement and input," and that can be achieved any number of ways. It doesn't require a listening tour around the state. Note also again that what they're doing is a bit more than was contemplated in the OFM fiscal note to 1242.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at October 03, 2007 03:34 PM | Email This
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1. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just another way to spend tax payer money.

Posted by: kim in vancouver on October 3, 2007 03:59 PM
2. After Clinton 1, I became inured at the use of public facilities and transportation for campaigning. Then, Bush 2 did the same.

What I find most amusing was GL's comment.

To use a Gumpism, "stupid is as stupid does". Or a Yogism, "I may be dumb but I am not stupid" in referring to GL.

Right now, I pity the AFLAC duck.

Posted by: swatter on October 3, 2007 04:16 PM
3. OLYMPIA - Governor Chris Gregoire wants to know what Washingtonians think about state government and what their priorities are for the future of Washington.

I think the state government sucks, Chrissy. I think that when we turn over the rocks we find either cronies or nannies. I want neither in or of my government. MY priority is to have you as a lame duck, one term governor who disappears into obscurity. MY priority is to have elected officials who follow the will of the electorate not ignore it. MY priority is to slit the throat of the one party communist rule in corrupt King county and in even more corrupt Olympia.


Somehow, I don't think I'd make the cut at one of Chrissy's campaign stops...er, "listening" confabs.

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on October 3, 2007 04:31 PM
4. Funny...kinda like Reichert's franking privilege which you don't seem to mind at all.

Please try to be consistent...it adds (albeit a sliver) of credibility to your positions.

PS...when a republican becomes governor, the obvious thing is you'll *defend* his/her doing the same thing.

Posted by: Bill Anderson on October 3, 2007 04:51 PM
5. as objectionable as it is, the use of public funds for campaign purposes is commonplace (see house and senate members return to their home districts and activities while there).

one question is, will gregoire only allow dems in and what would her security forces do if someone were to wear a t-shirt that said "rossi won".

Posted by: dinesh on October 3, 2007 05:21 PM
6. Just another example of how out of touch & out of control spending-wise State Government has become.
The Feds and Local Governments are just as bad.

I believe the time is ripe for a 3rd Party that stands for cleaning up this mess....smaller, less intrusive, less costly government on all levels.
The R's are not the answer.

A 3rd Party is the only answer.

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on October 3, 2007 05:58 PM
7. So, Repubnocrats, what's your plan for getting rid of Her Highness, Queen Christine, in 2008?

Posted by: Politically Incorrect on October 3, 2007 06:38 PM
8. Yes, we Republicans and "others" are against Queen Chrissy and her "tax sponsored " campaign trips. Why shouldn't we? When GOVERNOR ROSSI was beat up and had a PDC (peoples democrat party) complaint against him because he was traveling the state on "DONATED MONEY,AND AS A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION SPEAKER. 'NOT WITH TAX MONEY' DUH.......

Posted by: St Claire on October 3, 2007 06:54 PM
9. More and more Queen Christine's life mimicks Britney Spears. One wonders when she'll quit wearing pantys and give up custody of Washington Democrats.

Posted by: Doc-T on October 3, 2007 07:46 PM
10. So, Mr. Cynical @6, are you voting Libertarian this election cycle?

I am.

The LP is the third largest party in the US. We have over 600 people currently serving in public office. That's more than twice what the Greens have. The Mayor of Sumas, WA is a Libertarian.

If you really want a third party to challenge the duopoly, you have to start voting for one.

And because of the "socially tolerant" positions of Libertarian candidates, they have the opportunity to "take votes" right up the middle: some from the R's, some from the D's, a lot from the independent category, and even more from the dissaffected.

Free Minds and Free Markets.

Posted by: Bruce Guthrie on October 3, 2007 08:25 PM
11. Warning: Do not drink Diet Coke while reading Doc T's comments. You will be in danger of laughing so hard you blow the drink out through your nose, and possibly frying your keyboard. :)

Posted by: katomar on October 3, 2007 08:45 PM
12. Too bad Hague is a republican.

After all, if you had 1/5th on Gregoire that there is on Hague, you'd be on Post MMMCXIII about it...

Posted by: Bill Anderson on October 3, 2007 09:15 PM
13. The people of this blue state get what they deserve. Will we get four more years of a former mediocre Attorney General as well as Governor (of king County) ? At this time, it appears that the answer is probably.

Posted by: KS on October 3, 2007 10:13 PM
14. KS

God save us if that is so!

Re Elect Rossi in 2008

Posted by: GS on October 3, 2007 10:42 PM
15. The tone deafness of Progressives like Gregoire and Burner is always heartwarming. There's no limit to their arrogance. But this will be just one more piece of information to present to voters throughout 2008.

Posted by: Jeff B. on October 4, 2007 02:06 AM
16. Bruce Guthrie--
I may very well vote Libertarian this time.
I have voted for Libertarian candidates in the past. Heck, I even took the Libertarian test at a County Fair a couple years ago and was darn near 100% Libertarian according to that test!!!
Like many Conservative, Libertarian-leaners, I have fallen prey to the notion that a weak, semi-corrupt Republican is better than a Marxist Democrat....hence generally voted Republican.
I would love to see some more viable Libertarian candidates like yourself running and adding credibility to the Party.
I subscribe to Conservative principles....many of which overlap Libertarian thinking.
The Republican Party is leaving me.
I'm not alone.
Sad----

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on October 4, 2007 08:16 AM
17. About a decade ago I listened to a candidate for Land Commissioner from the Libertarian party. I was in lockstep with that individual at that time.

Now, after Guthrie got some coverage in the Senate race I question that thought. Libertarians seem to stand for anything. Isolationism is not an option at this time; I wish it were, but it is not. I believe in legalizing marijuana (another libertarian talking point) but I am not going to vote for anyone on that platform. The position by Ron Paul on the Iraq War is admirable, but again not practical. So, I am not sure Libertarian is the answer to my quest for a party either.

This time out, I need an R so that my affairs (society) can be in order before I cash out (nearing retirement); that is, my duty for my kids and grandkids. I don't have time to see a surge in the L party only to be left at the altar when the party gets seduced by power like the other two parties.

Mr. Cynical, maybe next election but not the one coming up in '08?

Posted by: swatter on October 4, 2007 09:02 AM
18. @4

"Please try to be consistent...it adds (albeit a sliver) of credibility to your positions."

Might want to take you own advice their Little Billy. You liberals are the big whiners about Rossi's NON-PROFIT so you really cannot complain about others wanting the same PDC scrutiny for elected officials campaigning with TAX MONEY. You see little Billy, the difference is that with Rossi, people VOLUNTARILY gave their money. With Gregoire, they were FORCED to give their money under threat of losing their homes.

Now run along Little Billy and wipe those Oreo crumbs off your chin.

Posted by: pbj on October 4, 2007 11:40 AM
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