August 27, 2007
Slade Moving Up?

It seems unlikely, but David Postman's eye caught mention of Slade Gorton has a possible replacement for Alberto Gonzalez. There are a number of other fellows on the list with closer ties to the federal government and its operations these days, but Slade would in theory be a good fit for a couple reasons:

1) He had a stellar reputation as AG in Washington state. Between that and his public service in the Senate, 9/11 Commission, etc. he's more than qualified.

2) He's a rare, ready-to-serve candidate that could get through a confirmation process in the Democratic Senate without too much of a bloodletting. Senators are rarely unduly harsh to fellow members of that exclusive club short of a truly massive difference in policy or politics. And Slade is a man of character and class who left the Senate with the respect of both sides of the aisle.

Yes, Slade is getting up there in age. But anyone confirmed in the coming months is essentially taking on a placeholder position for a year or so. As such, it's not as consequential as a start-of-the-term nomination, but it's also running a top-tier Cabinet Department for a year. That's not chump change.

All that being said, before anyone leaps to conclusions, Postman's catch of the CNN report was the first I'd heard of it and on first glance I consider it a long shot.

I will say if it did happen there would be a first-rate meltdown in some parts of the local liberal community. Their hate for Slade is the stuff of local political legend. Some of them will go 100% cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs if his name is back in the news. It's like our local version of BDS. Consider yourself warned...whatever the possible entertainment value.

UPDATE: off-topic comments deleted, plus one from our old friend "Steve/Sue/Conservative Not Republican." Readers who want to comment on recent local blogosphere doings with Stefan should take 30 seconds to find the appropriate thread.

Posted by Eric Earling at August 27, 2007 11:19 PM | Email This
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1. It sure speaks volumes that a middle-of-the-road moderate R like Gorton inspires such derangement among those on the left.

Posted by: Kirk Parker on August 27, 2007 11:11 PM
2. Slade was one of the most capable senators we ever had. Even democrats if really honest will admit that Cantwell is nowhere near him in that regard.

Posted by: Misty on August 27, 2007 11:14 PM
3. hell yeah!! Elect this douche bag. He is about a cunt hair away from keeling over. We can make room for some one that could actually do the job. Good ole' cyanide slade.

Posted by: justin on August 28, 2007 01:00 AM
4. I realize that I have only been paying attention to the writings of "Justin" for a couple day now, but it seems clear that we are in the company of one of the great liberal minds of our time.

At least with DM, the postings are long enough that you have time to glance down to see who wrote it, before wasting your time on it.

Posted by: Moondoggie on August 28, 2007 02:53 AM
5. Hey sooth, you need to R E A D Sound Politics first before you waste your time and ours with this. This has already been addressed and settled. Enough said.

Posted by: jp on August 28, 2007 06:12 AM
6. Yeah, most of the country would just stand aghast and wonder, "how can you hate Slade Gorton?!" Would be great.

Often, it's the case that people are less despised locally than nationally. Judge Pickering was appointed by Bush to a circuit court and he had many longtime civil rights activists, including the brother of Medgar Evars, and Ed King, a white chaplain from Tougaloo College in the 50s and 60s who was one of the two Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party delegates allowed by the Democrats into their '64 convention.

These men who had devoted their lives to civil rights, especially civil rights for blacks, had known Pickering for years, and vouched for his integrity and character. But Chuck Schumer got up there and called him a racist, so his appointment never got through. Of course, the real reason for opposition to him was that he was pro-life, but it's a lot easier to characterize an old white guy from Mississippi as a racist, so that's what they did.

Truth never matters to many of these people. However, since Gorton is an ex-Senator, yes, he'll get the kid gloves treatment by the Senate, if appointed.

Posted by: pudge on August 28, 2007 07:54 AM
7. justin on August 28, 2007 01:00 AM

You are aware that he would be appointed and not elected, right?

And you are in need of a serious lesson in manners.

Posted by: jimg on August 28, 2007 08:47 AM
8. It would be nice to see Slade being AG You would never see me appointed. I would make it interesting in Washington.
IF appointed here would be my priorities
1. Follow Ted Kennedy's demand to enforce US Laws.
a. Enforce Immigration laws.
b. Investigate any Senator or Representative that was using thier office to block investigations into crimes.
c. Investigate all security leaks that have leaked information to the press. If it came from a politicians office. That politician would be charged as an accessory for his staff's actions. Odds are they are sending staff to do their dirty work.
d. Investigate Corruption within the Justice department. Any leaks on ongoing investigations automatic Firing and replace.
e. Cut the number of people behind desks and hire investigators to replace them. If you want to keep your job you will have to really prove you are doing a good honest job of investigating.
f. Investigate Corruption and kickbacks to politicians. Any politician that can take a 5000 dollar investment and make hundreds of thousands of dollars. I want to know their secret of stock picks or Arrest them for kickbacks and bribery. It does not matter what party.
g. If a politician threatens the office with cutting off funds. Make it known to the public the threats made and that they may be corrupt because they are making too much noise and want to stop ongoing investigations but cutting funds.
h. Increase terrorist related investigations espicially those groups that have not been indited but have ties with terrorist. Shut them down. Espicially the possible 20 training camps in the US. Make the FBI investigate fully all activities of these groups.
i. Fire any Attorney that fails to investigate fully election claims of fraud. Elections must be clean. Groups that provide fraudulent voter registrations be held criminally responsible.

As you can see I want to follow Ted Kennedy's call to enforce US laws. All of them. Because I support Ted Kennedy I will never get selected.

Posted by: David Anfinrud on August 28, 2007 08:57 AM
9. I THOUGHT I read SOMEWHERE that Slade was on a panel with Patty and they engaged in a bash Gonzalez/celebrate his leaving fest. Whatever ones opinion of Gonzalez, it was inappropriate of Slade to do something so crass publicly. IF my memory is correct, I say HELL NO to Slade.

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on August 28, 2007 09:24 AM
10. Furthermore, I would highly suspect the motives of the opposition party that would quickly and cleanly confirm ANY Bush nominee.

If any Bush nominee asily earns the Schumer seal of approval, they surely won't meet mine.

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on August 28, 2007 09:27 AM
11. It sure speaks volumes that a middle-of-the-road moderate R like Gorton inspires such derangement among those on the left

Sort of like any middle-of-the-road moderate with the last name of Clinton inspires such derangement among those on the right.

Posted by: Cato on August 28, 2007 09:34 AM
12. Aw, jimg, give Justin a break! He's probably just a Chris Rock wannabe, about 11 years old, and thinks that making sexist, racist, and vulgar, tasteless comments make him cool. He'll give up eventually. He maybe has the vitriol and hate, but I suspect no stamina or intellect for actual debate.

Posted by: katomar on August 28, 2007 09:39 AM
13. Cato,

Which Clinton are you referring to?

Posted by: RBW on August 28, 2007 09:46 AM
14. Which Clinton are you referring to?

It sure ain't Hillary: she's a one woman Communist government, so far left she makes a few dictators look downright reasonable

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on August 28, 2007 09:50 AM
15. Which Clinton are you referring to?

Does it matter? Case in point, Ragnar is already frothing at the mouth.

Posted by: Cato on August 28, 2007 10:23 AM
16. Cato: The only moderate, middle of the road Clinton was Bill. I wouldn't term Ragnar's statement that Hillary is far to the left exactly frothing at the mouth; just stating what we all know.

Posted by: katomar on August 28, 2007 10:35 AM
17. Would Slade enforce the law?? Two words: Jamie Gorelick.
He had the blinders on there, would do the same again.

Posted by: PC on August 28, 2007 10:37 AM
18. Cato,

Yes it does matter. The answer is completely different depending on whether you're referring to Bill or Hillary.

Posted by: RBW on August 28, 2007 10:49 AM
19. The answer is completely different depending on whether you're referring to Bill or Hillary.

I beg to disagree. Hillary is quite a moderate in comparison to some other Dem. candidates (i.e. Kusinich, Edwards).

Yes, she supports lefty things like abortion, stem cell research, but so does a good portion of America (look at Missouri). She's a far cry from the communist lefty that Ragnar (who is most certainly frothing) is describing.

Posted by: Cato on August 28, 2007 11:04 AM
20. Hey Cato, Speaking of Hillary did you catch the WSJ article on her Chinese "Donors" from California? Seems a fellow making $49,000 a year with a stay at home wife is in her top ten donors list. Hmmm just like Bill only she didn't have to give them coffee at the whitehouse. You have to love those Chinese donations if you are a Clinton..you take the money and an hour later you are hungry for more.

Posted by: Smokie on August 28, 2007 11:35 AM
21. Hillary's been running for president since the latter days of her husband's administration when she established residence in New York. She's been spending her time in the Senate carefully crafting an image upon which to run. When she was last set free with executive power delegated by her husband, she was anything but moderate. That was the natonalized health care program attempt. I see no reason to believe she would be any different with her own executive power.

Posted by: RBW on August 28, 2007 11:43 AM
22. Yes Smokie, I have read it. I'm personally not a Hillary fan. I do feel she is well on her way to occupying the White House come January 2009.

As for the money. I'm sure Bush can count on lots of donations laundered through the system from Saudi princes. They certainly got a deal out of their donations, Bush got rid of a pesky neighbor and supplied them with enough military strength to put them on par with Israel.

Who knows what sort of favorable trade deals China will get come the Presidential reign of Mrs. Clinton. I guess time will tell.

Posted by: Cato on August 28, 2007 11:52 AM
23. Nice dodge Cato, Hillary is dirty and if the FEC has any honesty in it's ranks she will be prosecuted.

Posted by: Smokie on August 28, 2007 12:11 PM
24. Hillary is dirty and if the FEC has any honesty in it's ranks she will be prosecuted

Yes, it looks fishy, but a good political operative will leave no paper trail. Even if she is prosecuted it's merely a distraction from her message at best. Unless the GOP can get their ducks in a row and find a candidate they can agree on it's going to be a cakewalk for Hillary to go from First Lady, to Senator, to PUSA.

Posted by: Cato on August 28, 2007 12:18 PM
25. "A good political operative will leave no paper trail" Now that is just what we want as a President of the United States. But if it is the best the Democrats can do, run her on out and see if she can tap dance.

Posted by: Smokie on August 28, 2007 12:26 PM
26. Now that is just what we want as a President of the United States.

As compared to what we have now? Do the names Jack Abramoff, Ken Lay, Bernard Ebbers ring a bell? The GOP is no angel when it come campaign donations. Face it both parties are awash with dirty cash. Sadly this is par for the course when running for PUSA.

Some people have tried to change it (McCain 2000) but ended up being a victim of the very thing they tried to stop.

There are other means of achieving the same end goal. Take a look at the the 2004 campaign. Who knows where all that Swift Boat money came from, does anyone in the GOP really care?

Posted by: Cato on August 28, 2007 12:36 PM
27. I think Justin's comments need to be deleted, due to the fact that they are so gratuitously obscenty-laced that they're only fit for HA. This blog has much higher standards in that regard than HA, so please consider deleting them.

Posted by: Michele on August 28, 2007 12:41 PM
28. Nice to see that Hillary is the leading edge of change from business as usual. She at least could have gone back to Soros instead of stigmatizing the Chinese community again. But I guess the ACORN doesn't fall far from the tree with Bill and Hill.

Posted by: Smokie on August 28, 2007 12:43 PM
29. I beg to disagree. Hillary is quite a moderate in comparison to some other Dem. candidates (i.e. Kusinich, Edwards).

Agreed.

She absolutely IS moderate compared to those two nuts (and I fondly refer to Kucinich that way because I was in Cleveland and remember when he was the boy wonder, albeit a very screwy boy wonder, there in his youth). Compared to the Kos bunch, she is "moderate". Compared to the vocal but nutty Seattle moondoggies, she is "moderate". BUT compared to the rest of the country, compared to mainstream America, compared to heartland flyover country, compared to housewives in Oklahoma, Southern good ol' boys, meat and potatoes mid country hard working Americans, the only thing "moderate" about her is a total lack of a distinguishable hairstyle.

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on August 28, 2007 01:10 PM
30. Mr. Baseball himself as AG. From the 9/11 whitewash to the AG hosing.Works for me. Washington DC could use a new stadium.

Posted by: Snuffy on August 28, 2007 01:18 PM
31. compared to the rest of the country, compared to mainstream America...the only thing "moderate" about her is a total lack of a distinguishable hairstyle.

I guess we shall see when she sweeps the election while the GOP implodes on itself like the Dem's did in 2000. The old Republicans are stepping down because they know the end is near. hopefully the next generation will learn from their predecessors mistakes but I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: Cato on August 28, 2007 01:50 PM
32. I guess we shall see when she sweeps the election ......

No we'll see IF she sweeps (or squeeks by) the election.....

Posted by: RBW on August 28, 2007 02:17 PM
33. the issue for any republican nominee will be credibility, a virtue sorely lacking by some of the commentators here. afterall, these are the same people that were telling us all along that gonzales did nothing wrong re geneva conventions, gitmo detainees' rights, suspension of habeas corpus, politicization of justice hirings, etc.

until you are able to stand up and say 'enough is enough' instead of demonstrating unflinching loyalty without critique or compromise, it's unclear what credibility these nominees have.

Posted by: dinesh on August 28, 2007 02:42 PM
34. And how much "Credibility" Will Hill have with Chi-Com dollars falling from her back pocket?

Posted by: Smokie on August 28, 2007 02:58 PM
35. Slade is another one of those "too nice" Republicans. He just doesn't get it that the Bob Kerreys, Mitchells, Simpsons and some of the other Senatorial old-timers aren't there anymore.

Gorton would be a recipe for disaster. I never liked his 911 commission work with Garofalo on the committee. Again, he was Minister of Nice.

Bush should appoint a stonewaller.

Posted by: swatter on August 28, 2007 02:58 PM
36. And how much "Credibility" Will Hill have with Chi-Com dollars falling from her back pocket?

Quite a bit apparently, she has survived far worse than a minor issue of where her donations came from. Besides she can always return the donations. Though I'd be willing to bet the issue would not die there.

Smokey, would you let Hillary slide on fuzzy campaign donations if she gave the money back?

Posted by: Cato on August 28, 2007 03:20 PM
37. Hey Cato, ya better bone up on the 1600 Pennsylvania Inn guest list. Ken Lay was renting the Lincoln bedroom a few years before W was in the white house.

Posted by: PC on August 28, 2007 03:41 PM
38. You mean like Murray and Abramoff or like Cantwell and Dotzauer?

Posted by: Smokie on August 28, 2007 04:44 PM
39. Mr Gorton would still be senator if he had took the libertarian wing of the republican party seriously. Instead he continued to vote in favor of big government spending and even sponswer many bills in favor of government research spending.

This makes him actually an ideal candidate for the Bush administration which has yet to find a program not worthy of our tax payer money.

Travis

Posted by: Travis Pahl on August 28, 2007 07:31 PM
40. Travis: Senator Gorton would also probably still be Senator if Maria Cantwell didn't violate campaign finance law.

Posted by: pudge on August 29, 2007 07:21 AM
41. Gorton's service on the boneheaded 9/11 commission is a good reason he should NOT be AG.

Posted by: JB on August 29, 2007 10:39 AM
42. Reason that Slade Gorton lost the election had nothing to do with the Libertarian wing, and I'm getting a bit annoyed having to listen to Travis always making out the Libertarian wing into a mountain when it's just a mole hole. He was in deep disfavor with the Indian tribes and the money and political influence flowed as a result of that.

Reason one he should be AG is that his views on the Indian tribes are fantastic, but that is also Reason one that he could not get confirmed.

Posted by: Doug on August 29, 2007 11:59 AM
43. Excellent point, Doug. I hadn't thought of that.

Do you think he could have done better than then AG Gregoire on the latest fiasco? And no one please lay the blame on the newbie because it would be unfair.

Posted by: swatter on August 29, 2007 12:28 PM
44. guess we shall see when she sweeps the election while the GOP implodes on itself like the Dem's did in 2000.

Wow, Cato, your ignorance knows no bounds, apparently.

The D's won the popular vote for President, picked up at least 4 (that I can remember) Senate Seats, some House Seats, and did well in Gov. contests in 2000. The fact that GWB was able to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat against Al Gore was the one bright spot in what was a HORRIBLE year for R's. Sure, Gore should have won big, but other then his tiny loss, it was actually a very good year for D's, hardly an implosion.

Anyhow, your precious Marcy/Darcy won't even make it past the primary, and Rodney Tom will lose to Reichert in the general.

Posted by: Cliff on August 29, 2007 01:50 PM
45. Cliff: false. The Democrats could not have won the popular vote for President, because such a thing does not exist. It is entirely unreasonable to group together votes from different states into one pot, because people in different states are not all voting for the same thing, with the same candidates, and the same "math." I lived in Massachusetts in 2000; I did vote for Bush, but many people I know did not, because, well, why bother, since he had no chance of winning Massachusetts?

Saying Bush "snatched" anyhing from the "jaws of defeat" implies that Gore should have won for some reason, but that isn't true. To say he "should have won big" is not backed up by any actual facts or reason.

I won't say to you what you said about Cato in re ignorance, though.

As to the rest, well, you're basically right: the GOP lost 4 Senate seats and 2 House seats, and one Governor seat. But to call that a "HORRIBLE year for R's" is a gross overstatement of those facts. The Democrats had just about the most modest gains possible in the House and Governorships, and a very nice gain in the Senate.

Posted by: pudge on August 30, 2007 04:01 PM
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