June 23, 2007
Who Will Run Against Darcy?

David Postman had two posts this past week related to the 8th Congressional District race in 2008, one about potential Democratic primary challenges to Darcy Burner, the other about Burner's own activities on the trail.

It's natural for a primary challenge to occur in this race. If ever there was a year where a Democrat could - and perhaps should - have knocked off a freshman Republican incumbent in an increasingly blue district, 2006 was it. Based on the Democratic wave in legislative races within the district alone it's probably a testament to Dave Reichert's campaign that he was able to win by a 3% margin; a comfortable gap in a highly competitive race.

In some respects Burner fit the perfect profile of what Democrats would want to run against a well-known, public figure like Reichert: a younger, professional women. Except, a moderate would have been preferable to the liberal Burner (though of course one of Darcy's more fervent supporters who rejects the idea of moderates at all and who believes progressive are inherently good and conservatives are by default evil does not agree). If one paid attention to Burner's rhetoric on the campaign trail, lurking beneath the anti-Bush messaging was an avowed liberal, not a suburban moderate.

That last point might well be one reason why Burner's campaign never sealed the deal. She clearly got the message out that Reichert = Bush = bad. But she never laid out a convincing case to 8th District voters of what she should do in office, thus why Reichert should have been voted out and she should have been voted in. That's why there were a significant number of voters casting ballots for Maria Cantwell, Dave Reichert, and Democratic legislative candidates.

Just one more dynamic that could make a Democratic primary in the 8th fun to watch.

UPDATE: Giffy's comment at #2 reminds me that Burner won't be able to run against Bush the same way in 2008 as she did in 2006. Doesn't that put even more pressure on her to have a proactive agenda that will describe what she'll vote for in Congress, not just what she'll vote against? In addition, will she break with any votes taken by the Democratic majority in Congress? If so, will that make her run a more liberal or more moderate campaign?

Posted by Eric Earling at June 23, 2007 11:35 AM | Email This
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1. Darcy is the female version of Eric Oemig, only without the personality and with more hair.

Posted by: Huh? on June 23, 2007 12:45 PM
2. Yah I'm not we are going to fair much better in 08. However when Riechart goes my hunch is that the seat will go D. The trends in that part of the State have been democratic for sometime.

Though a big part of Riecherts appeal was that he was the same party as the majority and the president so he could get things for the district. given that that is no longer the case for congress and likely won't be for the presidency after 08 the dems might have a better shot.

Not to mention that in power rankings the sheriff is somewhere below the pretend congressman from Guam.

Posted by: Giffy on June 23, 2007 01:04 PM
3. They call themselves "progressive", yet I can never actually tell what is progressive (other than taxes) about their agenda.

The term itself is nothing more than propaganda...

Posted by: H Moul on June 23, 2007 01:53 PM
4. Reichert survived last time in large part due to his own record and about two decades of public service as Sheriff. He had his own "identity", thus he was a bit immuized from the national trend favoring Democrats in 2006. Also he had a couple of pro environment votes.

Darcy Burner -- I wouldn't blame her campaign, or that she was too liberal, I think it was more too inexperienced. She looked too young. She didn't come across as ever having managed anything. Why the big step up to Congress? She didn't lead a division at MS or anything she just worked there.

In 2008 the other two Democratic contenders who are two state legislators (one is the guy who switched from R to D I think) also will have a tough row to hoe, because (a) primaries battles are bruising, (b) Reichert continues to have select "moderate" votes that distinguish him from the core of right wingers in the Republican Party. On the other hand, either of these two may do better than Darcy because they have experience and already have won several times in part of the 8th CD.

Overwashing all this 8th CD level stuff is the national trend on Iraq and the GOP. The Republican President continues to tank and piss off everyone in all parties. 2008 could be a re-do of 2006 -- get out of Iraw now -- vote D -- only stronger.

If we are still in Iraq the tide may be too strong for Reichert to withstand unless he starts voting to get out of Iraq, which he very well may do come September. So far he's played it just right to keep representing this moderate swing district.

Posted by: Seattle Democrat on June 23, 2007 02:52 PM
5. Seattle Democrat wrote, "If we are still in Iraq the tide may be too strong for Reichert to withstand unless he starts voting to get out of Iraq, which he very well may do come September. So far he's played it just right to keep representing this moderate swing district."

He has? Methinks you're out of step with the 8th. Reichert has supported Bush's Iraq war despite the wishes of his district.

Posted by: Daniel K on June 23, 2007 03:03 PM
6. Daniel K: You suggest I (??) am out of step with the 8th district ??! because somehow Reichert is out of step with his district?

Hmm. LEt me explain.
Reichert was not out of step enough to lose in 2006. This does not mean I agree with his positions, this is just reality.

Anyway, I believe I basically dealt with your point that he is getting out of step as I said he probably has to vote against the war in Iraq -- turning against the prez in his own party -- in September and even that may not save him.

When I said he's played it "right" I only meant he played the game well enough to keep his seat, not his position on Iraq was right or that I shared his position. I don't. I really wasn't discusing the pros and cons of Iraq at all, I was addressing the topic in the post, to wit, handicapping the Dems who are running against Reichert.

Posted by: Seattle Democrat on June 23, 2007 03:35 PM
7. Neither DK or SD have a good read on the 8th. Most people who have moved out here recently did so in part to get away fom part BS left wing Seattle centric politics that Darcy represents.
When you have Goldstien linked to your campaign website and have him fund raising for you, you will have issues in the 8th. All I did last time around was send people to Darcy's website and tell them to follow the link to HA to see what kind of people she associates with.

Once again we find ourselves facing an unqualified, never done anything in the community Darcy. And while she is more than willing to start at the top of the political ladder (because she is obviously better than the majority of those rubes in the 8th), she still lacks any meaningful works by which the district can judge her behavior in a position of public responsibilty. Which is why nobody trusts her.

Posted by: Huh? on June 23, 2007 03:55 PM
8. Giffy: even in the minority, Reichert can get a lot more done for that district. Reichert is a "moderate" Republican who is well-respected on issues like border and port security and law enforcement.

Even DEMOCRATS in Congress care a lot more what Reichert has to say about issues than they would about Burner. Burner would be good for Democrats in DC, because she would be a guaranteed vote on various national issues, but she would be bad for Democrats in her district, because her fellow Democrats in DC would not care about anything she had to say about any issue. She has no experience, no clout, no special knowledge, and nothing interesting to say. She would be, to her fellow Democrats in DC, nothing more than someone who sits in a chair and votes the way they tell her to.

Posted by: pudge on June 23, 2007 03:59 PM
9. pudge: What has Reichert actually gotten done in his time in office aside from getting a bus driver fired. Moderates really don't have that much power unless they work for the other side ala Lieberman and he is a senator. The small size of the senate and the unique rules make it more easy for moderates to wield power. Per congress.org riechert is 419 out of 433. http://www.congress.org/congressorg/power_rankings/overall.ttHardly a wielder on influence.

H Moul, it is more accurate then conservative as that implies a desire to keep the status quo. Most conservatives hardly want that. Progressives favor social change which we believe to be in the pursuit of progress.

Posted by: Giffy on June 23, 2007 09:09 PM
10. Giffy, you need to proof read your posts.

Progressives favor control of all things by the elite, preferably unelected judges who don't have to go through the messy ordeal of democracy.

Progressives want the govt to provide all health care, which it can only do through rationing. And the rationing would be controlled by the few who are smarter than the rest of us.

Progressives favor social change that they deem to be in all our interest. Even if we disagree.

Fortunately, Darcy is smart enough to be a good progressive. But she is smart enough to sit in a seat and be told what to do. By the progressives.


Posted by: janet s on June 23, 2007 09:43 PM
11. Giffy, you need to proof read your posts.

Progressives favor control of all things by the elite, preferably unelected judges who don't have to go through the messy ordeal of democracy.

Progressives want the govt to provide all health care, which it can only do through rationing. And the rationing would be controlled by the few who are smarter than the rest of us.

Progressives favor social change that they deem to be in all our interest. Even if we disagree.

Fortunately, Darcy isn't smart enough to be a good progressive. But she is smart enough to sit in a seat and be told what to do. By the progressives.


Posted by: janet s on June 23, 2007 09:44 PM
12. Okay, I was proof reading my post, and caught the error too late. Disregard the first entry.

Posted by: janet s on June 23, 2007 09:47 PM
13. Janet, you need to learn to click post only once.

Posted by: Giffy on June 23, 2007 09:51 PM
14. Reichert is in trouble. Doubt if he can contort himself enough to look as liberal his district has evolved. Reichert is as inarticulate as the president, and his record is unremarkable. The primary will only be a formality, Burner already has the money from the people who give money to Democrats. (besides, who would give money to Rodney Tom, for chrissake?) I wouldn't be underestimating her intelligence, she learned lots in '06, anc she really wants to win. Nat'l Republicans were able to give Reichert lots of help last time, they won't be able to invest those resources in '08. DO NO REAL CONSERVATIVES LIVE IN THE 8TH DISTRICT ANYMORE?

Posted by: murtz on June 23, 2007 10:10 PM
15. MARK MY WORDS, its RODNEY TOM thats running

Posted by: bc on June 23, 2007 10:54 PM
16. Darcy has had her 15 minutes of fame. Now its time for another Democrat with substance to run. Rodney Tom may be that one and Reichert needs to be ready for another grueling campaign. For the Repubs, it looks like there is only one way to go - up in this state, but who knows when that will really happen ? Maybe, in 08 when Gregoire becomes a former Governor.

Posted by: KS on June 23, 2007 11:38 PM
17. Conservatives look forward to working with the Democrats to kick Reichert out of office.

His pathetic record as Sheriff, his high spending habits, and his anti-life votes - led to lower % win in '06 than '04. And I think we have a great opportunity to kick him out of office this year. '06 was a great year for conservatives as so many RINOs got booted - one of the sweetest wins was Webb in VA. A conservative elected in the Democratic party over a RINO republican was AWESOME. Since conservatives are the biggest voting block in the country we need both parties fighting for our votes.

'08 is going to be a great year again as Bush continues to expose what non-conservative Republicans are all about - which is rigging the system in favor of getting you money, and setting the rules to perserve your money and governing like you are 3rd generation rich idiots living off your grandparents accomplishments.

For example, We need H1 visas because we don't have enough tech workers, we need Z visas because American won't take low paying jobs. So if Americans won't high or low paying jobs - what jobs will we take?

Posted by: John McDonald on June 23, 2007 11:41 PM
18. I've never seen such an amateur candidate as Darcy attempt such a high office. Her often cartoonish hatred of Bush showed her inexperience, and frankly her lack of respect for the role of US representative and constituents.

It's the whole "conservatives are evil" portrayal that she could not let go of. She spent all her time in Seattle and Bellevue catering to moonbats.

And that lead to a very unauthentic appearance. It was clearly more about Darcy wanting to be a US Rep, and not that she wanted to serve a constituency.

That's why most of our Reps and Senators are older. There's simply a maturity required. And often that comes with the financial resources, and political and community stature that remove the "need to prove oneself" element that is the essence of Darcy Burner and her failed candidacy. And frankly a hallmark of much of her hasty costume changes from MS program manager, to law school dropout, to johnny-come-lately, and very cliche left-leaning house candidate.

I think the Dems would have a good shot at the 8th if they fielded a serious challenger in the future.

Posted by: Jeff B. on June 24, 2007 12:41 AM
19. Heh, people who think Reichert hasn't done anything are out of touch. He's been a key member in the House on border and port security, and has had significant influence.

Posted by: pudge on June 24, 2007 01:23 AM
20. Jeff B. "I have never seen such an amateur candidate". Really? Have you never observed Patty Murray? She's a complete idiot. (But she has great handlers.)

Posted by: Walters on June 24, 2007 08:03 AM
21. Too bad all of these tough talking Democrats don't live in the 8th. The problem is that Darcy associates herself with the Sims, Pelz,Oemig, McDermott crowd. Large areas of the 8th have seen first hand what unchecked Democrat rule looks like, CAO anyone? Redmond Ridge? Darcy led with the Camp Wellstone, foul mouthed vitriolic attacks that she didn't have the resume to wield. All we have heard from Darcy since she lost is that "The system is stacked against women" Remember that one? Tell it to Christine Gregiore or one of our Senators. She also failed to actively support her local school bond again, but rather chose to try and have her neighborhood transfered to a different district. Many of us here in the 8th wish she would take her whining, privileged, lakeside living family to a Green Lake or Lake Union where she spends most of her time anyway.

Posted by: Huh? on June 24, 2007 08:23 AM
22. Walters: sorry, I have to agree with Jeff B.: Darcy is far more amateurish than even Patty Murray. :-)

Posted by: pudge on June 24, 2007 09:06 AM
23. Walters,

I highly disagree. While I certainly don't agree with Patty Murray's politics, she deserves WAY more respect than Darcy Burner as a multi-term senator. She may have been an amateur candidate at one point, but that was long ago. And she's never conducted herself with that haughty, progressive, vitriolic Camp Wellstone attitude of Darcy Burner.

Burner is simply overshadowed by her own arrogance. She has not yet earned the stature necessary for national public office.

Posted by: Jeff B. on June 24, 2007 12:01 PM
24. What's the matter with WA?

We get to pick 2 senators and we send the 2 who achieve the Senate Dumb and Dumber awards.

And Patty is not arrogant? HAH! You seem to have forgotten her 1st term when she admitted to the Times that most of her constituents let her know they were against the Clinton tax increse but that she voted for it because WE THE PEOPLE just "didn't understand" all the facts.

I despise her.

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on June 24, 2007 02:16 PM
25. Don't get me wrong. I'm not defending Murray. I'm just saying Darcy Burner is a worse, even more progressive nutroots Democrat.

Posted by: Jeff B. on June 24, 2007 02:42 PM
26. Murray is one of the top power brokers in the Senate who routinly brings in money to WA. Cantwell is an up and comer who is rising in power. Compared to Sherriff do nothing, they are practically running things.

Posted by: Giffy on June 24, 2007 07:23 PM
27. If Murray is a power broker then why isn't the Viaduct fully funded? 520 Bridge Fully Funded? I-90 Realign fully funded? Patty is a pathetic debater and hardly an original thinker, the only reason she is still there is because she doesn't represent a threat to either party.

I would have to agree about Cantwell being an "up and comer" Just ask Ron Dotzauer, he verified that "comer" part just before his last wedding and I believe they mention that in his last divorce proceedings. That was before they sealed the records for the illegal, unrecorded contributions he made and salary he recieved from Maria while stiffing his wife and kid on support payments. And Maria is bound to be proud of Dal LaMange (sp) who thought soo much of her ability he decided to run for President instead of promoting her. Darcy is a wannabe representative with NOTHING to offer but attitude.

Posted by: Huh? on June 24, 2007 07:45 PM
28. Record of Patty Murray's great power in the Senate - funding for the Sculpture Park in Seattle. This is pork in its purest form. Was this really the best use of $500,000? I bet her donors thought it was, since the park is just a selfish indulgence of the elite liberals of this area.

Posted by: janet s on June 24, 2007 08:35 PM
29. I think Giffy is getting his messages mixed up in #2.

With the stronger possibility that the next President is a D, isn't it better to have a split Congress and making it more necessary to have Reichert in the 8th?

Posted by: swatter on June 25, 2007 07:07 AM
30. Murray is only able to know how to vote because her name in the roll call comes after Kennedy --no original thoughts in her head

Posted by: Jim on June 25, 2007 06:28 PM
31. who?...anyone from Nanny 911.

Posted by: jimmie-howya-doin on June 25, 2007 11:05 PM
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