May 16, 2007
Re: It's in the PI - Third Reich art

Historical ignorance bugs me. It annoys me even more than hyperbolic political rhetoric.

So after reading P-I columnist Joel Connelly's most recent column and Stefan's subsequent post I felt compelled to correct a few mistakes.

To recap, Connelly alludes to opponents of the National Endowment for the Arts as being Nazis. This is because the Nazis, after all, didn't like art and burned books.

A bad analogy, poor stereotype and factually wrong.

Germany's Nazi Party in the 1930s publicly funded artwork. The National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP) was literally addicted to massive artistic displays to an extent that it still far surpasses the comparatively small budget for "arts" we federally earmark today in the United States.

Millions of Reichsmarks were levied on stadiums, statuary, paintings, plays, radio broadcasts and movies. You only need a rudimentary knowledge of World War II history to know that Hitler had instructed Albert Speer, First Architect of the Reich, to transform Berlin into the cultural capital of Europe by what would have been the largest public works program in history.

Joseph Goebbels, a philosophy major, failed journalist and novel writer, was the head of the Ministry of Cultural Enlightenment and Propaganda. Even here, notice how the importance of "cultural enlightenment" (read arts) was placed ahead of propaganda (newspapers and radio).

The danger with Nazism wasn't that it suppressed dissenting artwork in highly public, and generally ineffective, displays of book-burnings. It was that the NSDAP used the collective powers of the state to promulgate creative works which the party felt were appropriate. This deluge of propaganda posing as art completely flooded the country drowning out any competition in a wave of National Socialism. It created an odd schizophrenia in the German social psyche where movies like "Snow White" or "The Virginian" competed in the same theaters with "Triumph of the Will" and jazz bands strained against the blare of the "Horst Wessel Song".

Furthermore, the hierarchy of the NSDAP itself was filled with (failed) artists and writers and starry-eyed dreamers who felt they were making Europe into a beautiful cultural paradise for the children of the future. If World War I hadn't come along most of them would have probably spent their lives peddling second-rate picture postcards in the streets of Vienna.

I guess there's a lesson about never letting writers or folks from artist co-ops anywhere near the reins of governmental power.

You can look back seven decades later and admit that a small percentage of artwork produced in 1930s Germany is quite good. But, for me, the vast majority of Pan-Germanic art is just drek and given an open market of artistic ideals would never have been produced in the first place.

You can look back on several decades of art produced by the National Endowment for the Arts and admit that some of it is quite good. But the vast majority of it is crap which would never have been inflicted upon the public if there were a truly open market of artistic ideals.

So when economic conservatives criticize the NEA and federally funded art it is with the lessons of Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union in mind.

Federal funding for arts creates a false economy where mediocre work is sustained and allowed to compete at a comparative advantage against creative minds who choose not to whore themselves for governmental grants. The dirty secret, looking back in history, is that the best artwork is done privately or at the behest of a patron by starving artists with pain in their souls.

Joel is a professional journalist with a working knowledge of history and he knows this or should. I know the pressures of coming out with a column twice a week can be tough and mistakes are made and short-cuts taken. But to have the lede of your story compare opponents of federally funded "arts" to Hermann Goering is absurd.

Leave that intellectual junk to the folks at MoveOn.org.


Post Script: Since this post is of an academic nature I will be highly wroth if any dim-bulb attempts to say that I'm comparing the federal government of the United States to that of National Socialist Germany. I'm not. Apples to Oranges. There are just some things which are better left to local municipalities, charities, private corporations and individuals.

Posted by DonWard at May 16, 2007 01:43 PM | Email This
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1. A good post, Don. Thanks.

Posted by: huckleberry on May 16, 2007 04:19 PM
2. Don:

I am not sure if you are criticizing Connelly as factually wrong because in addition to massive book burnings and desecration of modernist and avante garde art that was deemed "un-Aryan", the Nazis also lavishly funded their favored "Aryan" artists, or if you are contending the Nazis didn't destroy art they didn't like. In fact, the Nazis were notorious for destroying art and literature that was disfavored.

Posted by: wayne on May 16, 2007 04:31 PM
3. To delve a little further where DonWard has gone:

"Furthermore, the hierarchy of the NSDAP itself was filled with (failed) artists and writers and starry-eyed dreamers who felt they were making Europe into a beautiful cultural paradise for the children of the future. If World War I hadn't come along most of them would have probably spent their lives peddling second-rate picture postcards in the streets of Vienna."

Ward here has precisely nailed a parallel that Joel Connelly missed in his haste to yell "Nazis!" - and gotten in a nifty backhand at Hitler while at it.

It is the hierarchies of the NEA and NEH that are filled with oh-so-qualified 'arts people', a mini-Cosa Nostra of the beautiful ones who have gotten entrenched in the arts-production end of the business. All those gummint arts funds are funnelled through these careerists to - guess what: other members of their own self-selecting clique. There's a monster conflict of interest at work here, loaded in favor of the producers of 'art' instead of the consumers.

Worse, out of the aesthetic orientation of these producers grows a self-concept that they should be arbiters of the manners and morals and customs of the rest of us. Hence they encourage art works not only to epater les bourgoises ('Piss Christ' comes to mind), but to instruct us in multiculturalism and such other PC preaching that can be put into plastic forms, to the benefit of the anointed 'artistes' but not much to the benefit of the rest of us.

And thus do we look on the mighty works of these anointed ones and despair - exactly as we do when we see the surviving works (or their historic photos) of the artists selected by the Nazis for subsidies to instruct the prewar Germans.

Posted by: Insufficiently Sensitive on May 16, 2007 04:42 PM
4. Nice one Don. I'll add something here though that will probably make everyone as happy as a loud fart, but it was particularly through the NSDAP Local Offices that most of the suppression of education and arts was exercised, whether or not the directives were coming from the capitol. It was the local small town and neighborhood flunkies who destroyed and rebuilt in their own twisted image on a scale that exceeded national activities. As far as equating Nazis with failed artists and vice-versa, there were quite a few creatives in the population that had congregated in the republic during the golden twenties before the rise of Nazism. It's unfortunate to draw a parallel to arts funding of prior governments that fall to coups leading to fascism but it's often done - to what desired effect, I don't know.

Posted by: Acid Brain on May 16, 2007 05:20 PM
5. I guess there's a lesson about never letting writers or folks from artist co-ops anywhere near the reins of governmental power.

Counterexample: Vaclav Havel.

Posted by: Bruce on May 16, 2007 05:26 PM
6. Two fundamental but conflicting eternal truths... 1)government money should never be spent without oversight and 2)no artist should ever be subjected to government oversight.

Posted by: Huey on May 16, 2007 06:29 PM
7. Aw, c'mon Don. A P.I. writer is never one to let facts get in the way of an editorial.

Posted by: PC on May 16, 2007 06:36 PM
8. Degenerate art is the English translation of the German entartete Kunst, a term adopted by the Nazi regime in Germany to describe virtually all modern art. Such art was banned on the grounds that it was un-German or Jewish Bolshevist in nature, and those identified as degenerate artists were subjected to sanctions. These included being dismissed from teaching positions, being forbidden to exhibit or to sell their art, and in some cases being forbidden to produce art entirely.

Posted by: Acid Brain on May 16, 2007 06:50 PM
9. Acid,

I don't think anyone here is suggesting that these people shouldn't be allowed to produce their art.

I don't think anyone here is suggesting that they shouldn't be allowed to show their art.

I don't think anyone here is suggesting that they shouldn't be allowed to sell their art.

What is being said very specifically is that the government should not be funding artists specifically so they can produce their art. They are free to produce anything they want, just not on the taxpayers "dime".

Posted by: David on May 16, 2007 07:58 PM
10. The Nazis loved the arts so much that they withdrew an entire infantry division from the front lines in 1944 for battle scenes in "Kolberg," a costume drama.
By the way, my heating bill is way too high. Would Connelly be kind enough to tell me where I can get some of those books we are burning?

Posted by: Bleepless on May 16, 2007 08:35 PM
11. Don, very informative & enlightening article, thanks!

Posted by: SweetNSassyinSeattle on May 17, 2007 08:56 AM
12. A clear picture of what the National Endowment has done for art is seen when you go to a good museum. Several millenia of interesting things, which more or less stops by the 1960s. After that it appears to be self indulgent crap, with few exceptions.

The interesting bit is that there has been interesting art since the 1960s, as any review of SIGGRAPH conference proceedings will show. It simply doesn't fit into the tastes of the clique that decide what goes into museums. I don't doubt that these circumstances would change if the entire group had to please an audience rather than each other.

Luc Besson, director of the only french films to have been actually shown outside of france in major cinemas since the 1960s commented that subsidies for film in france had destroyed the french film industry because "they make films for each other and not the audience".

Posted by: bfr on May 17, 2007 09:35 AM
13. David - I know that last post looks a little left field, but my point is that arts, along with many other items (even the royal corporate charters that started Jamestown) have been funded for a long time in a symbiotic way as part of any governing body's spending along with cooperation from private interests. There hasn't been an agency of power in history that has not spent on the arts, however the bulk of what is spent on the arts in this country is for ennobling and conscious works rather than the crass vanity of past agencies and it's something we should be proud of rather than fearful of. When acts of withdrawing support or funds based on narrow subjectivities are engaged, it often leads to overt suppression and censorship and noise needs to be made. We'd all agree control needs a leash, and examples from the past are numerous. Is now like the NSDAP, not currently and Don does a good run with that, but somehow manages to kick the arts in the teeth along the way, which is kicking the victim rather than the perpetrator. We still have a lot to learn from what happened in Germany in the 1940s and do well to remind ourselves of it, however trite and annoying it gets.

Posted by: Acid Brain on May 17, 2007 09:54 AM
14. As a former 80's art school chick and the child of artistic parents (and still involved in the visual arts) - I believe without hesitation that the government should NOT be funding art!!!

It ruins the artistic, creative process, IMHO. Art funded by "the people" has to please everyone, or at least try to. I seems an impossible task and one that I, as an artist, would never attempt. I'm too busy trying to please myself! I can't see ever giving up that freedom for the sake of a grant!

Posted by: ALP on May 17, 2007 09:54 AM
15. ALP: Conservatives would probably not object to subsidization of artists on the public dime if they were trying to please everyone. Admittedly, the art would probably be bad, but it would not socially objectionable. Conservatives object to publicly funded art that offends, period. If an artist wants to produce boorish works, she needs to seek private patronage.

Posted by: huckleberry on May 17, 2007 10:49 AM
16. It is the ultimate cheap shot to criticize someone or something you disagree with by equating it with Nazi policy or ideology.

It shows a lack of imagination and rigor for an editorial writer to do this.

Try it yourself - I can't believe someone like you would like the color green - that was the color of the Nazis' uniforms.

Only a Nazi like you right wingers would listen to Wagner.

Of course George Bush likes sausage - don't you know that is a German food, favored by Himmler and Eichman.

What a pitiful state of discourse.

Posted by: Steve on May 17, 2007 11:12 AM
17. What Connelly didn?t say is the awful truth that educators (?) of the Left who run our public schools are hostile to great art. Arts education has been excluded from consideration by liberal pedagogues because it is the irrelevant product of DWEMs, Dead White European Males, and it?s better not to expose children to their literature, music and
Painting if at all possible. That is the real reason for the ignorance of today?s students. It looks like Gioia has tried to get the NEA back to basics and use the funds to expose kids to the classics rather than the commisioning of self-indulgent garbage. That is all to the good.

Posted by: Gip on May 17, 2007 11:54 AM
18. "Art funded by "the people" has to please everyone, or at least try to."

What? Not in this country. It has to please the inbred aristocracy that always seem to end up in control of the selection process. Just replace said nabobs with a committee of, say, one representative from each state in the Union, taken at random from the phone book. That committee would more probably select art that fits the "art funded by the people" theme given above. It would also fetch howls and tortured editorials and lynch mobs from the would-be elites who would lose their jobs in that replacement.

Hey, not a bad thought. Maybe those offended critics could learn a thing or two about asymmetrical warfare, acquire a vest or two, and express the ultimate aesthetic criticism by the self-destruction method, each one taking out one piece of 'wrong' public art along with his/her expiring soul...

Posted by: Insufficiently Sensitive on May 17, 2007 12:07 PM
19. What is it about liberals and their pathological need to call anyone a Nazi who doesn't like enormous amounts of social spending? It's like they are obsessed with Nazis. Very interesting indeed.

Posted by: ferrous on May 17, 2007 12:59 PM
20. Ja. Excellent reasons for promoting the separation of art from state and of Connelly from his media sinecure.

Hitler, who put the socialism back in National Socialism, pumped up failed artists (e.g. Hitler) with R-M squeezed from productive, tax-paying Good Germans. Hitler, who put the socialism back in National Socialism, was the enlightened progressive who hated fags (the kind formerly smoked by real men) and who hated red meat. He was the prototypical metrosexual vegesexual vegetarian that Seattle usually loves to love.

Hell, I'm surprised that someone from U-Dub doesn't go for an NEA/NIH grant to bring the old man back from the bunker so he can edit The Stranger.

Posted by: pferdescheist on May 17, 2007 02:49 PM
21. Hammering Man - straight out of Marx/socialism BS -- the Nazis and Stalinists were full of that type of stuff -- you do not know/believe - go look at the stamps of germany and russia and italy of the 1920's thru 1950-s and eastern europe 1950's -- or ask one of the many people who have come from any of the eastern europe or russian areas in the last 20 years or so -- then ask them what they think of the statue of Lenin - you know -- in Fremont -- er - that is in Seattle -- I really think the shitty faddas and muthas shoulda put in for one of the Saddem statues -- but alas were too slow on the uptake - maybe we can commission a staue of Fidel -- make him an honor(ed)ary shitizen.

Posted by: Bill on May 17, 2007 03:08 PM
22. Hammering Man - straight out of Marx/socialism BS -- the Nazis and Stalinists were full of that type of stuff -- you do not know/believe - go look at the stamps of germany and russia and italy of the 1920's thru 1950-s and eastern europe 1950's -- or ask one of the many people who have come from any of the eastern europe or russian areas in the last 20 years or so -- then ask them what they think of the statue of Lenin - you know -- in Fremont -- er - that is in Seattle -- I really think the shitty faddas and muthas shoulda put in for one of the Saddem statues -- but alas were too slow on the uptake - maybe we can commission a staue of Fidel -- make him an honor(ed)ary shitizen.

Posted by: Bill on May 17, 2007 03:09 PM
23. Acid @ 13,

So your arguement for keeping funding for the NEA is that we have supported it in the past, so we must continue? How about the possibility that "we the people" have changed our minds on the importance of publicly funded art.

I'm not sure where you are going with the statement about "acts of withdrawing support or funds based on narrow subjectivities"- I don't want a narrow withdrawal of funds from the NEA, I want a removal of ALL funding from the NEA! I want ALL art projects paid for by private or corporate donations.

Posted by: David on May 17, 2007 08:27 PM
24. @23 Ok Mad Max er, David you win. An end to 6000+ years of human civilization and behavior, we can get started any time - all you have to do is redesign the human animal and it's social requirements. There hasn't been a time in human culture without vegetables and there hasn't been one without art.

You could start your own revolution by only using privately provided services to prove your point, but you won't be able to get out of your driveway.

@21/22 A cursory browsing of an art history book covering twentieth century movements will show you that it is in a style of work not limited to Commies or Nazis. The Hammering Man was funded with both private and public money, more the former than the latter. Everyone isn't supposed to like everything, particularly in something as personal as the arts. I don't find the statue of Lenin threatening for a number of reasons, not least that there are so few examples of Soviet propaganda art from that period surviving in the US and it's a reminder of idealism gone totally wrong among its many other meanings. If you like more benign sculptures there's a big metal Tulip by Tom Wesselman on Third and Madison.

Posted by: Acid Brain on May 18, 2007 11:15 AM
25. Acid Brain... you said "it's a reminder of idealism gone totally wrong among its many other meanings."

I don't suppose you would care to elaborate on this statement?

Posted by: huckleberry on May 18, 2007 12:08 PM
26. Sure briefly - Once in power Lenin's hypocrisies were incredible. After making public statements for years on the evils of imperialism he expanded the borders of the soviet union through what but brute force. As a young man he spoke out vociferously for better living conditions and political rights at a time of despotism and want, yet became the father of the secret police, gross censorship, the gulags, and the red terror. He continued to become more misanthropic and murderous the longer he held power, in contrast to what he had written about political equality, women's rights, and even against antisemitism when he was younger. Who knows what he really believed, but the Russians gained a tyrant in his accession, not the humanitarian revolutionary they were sold.

Posted by: Acid Brain on May 18, 2007 01:06 PM
27. Acid Brain,
I couldn't agree more with the brief statement of the hypocritical and evil acts of Lenin and Stalin that you present at #26, yet your first paragraph at #24 is nonsensical. Sure there has never been a period in human history without art, but what does that have to do with the concept of taxing citizens to pay for art that is selected and promulgated by government bodies (and the related issues of the moral consequences of Socialism and the artistic censorship and cronyism inherent in publically funded art)?

Art is an intrinsically private human endeavor, and in its purest form is created by an artist regardless of whether anyone cares to appreciate it. If, however, someone does, a market is created and the artist may be able to make a living from his or her artistic expressions. To my knowledge, the widespread practice of perverting this process with socialistic idealism is rooted in the 20th century and continues to this day, but was unknown throughout the preceding "6000+" years of "human civilization and behavior."

Posted by: srogers on May 20, 2007 10:28 PM
28. SR @27 - totally agree that art is at its best when the creation of work is driven by the artist regardless of an immediate reward. No question. I think that ethic even applies to a lot of things like cooking your spouse dinner, though an unsolicited reward can turn out quite nice.

I think we differ some on application of terms but not much overall. I would like to step it out of the late twentieth century american conservative dogma for a minute and quit yelling "commies versus capitalists" across the yard.

How would one characterize the relationship Michaelangelo had working in Rome whether for the Pope or the Politicians? Was it a purely commercial arrangement between him and the clients for their own edification or was there a component there of the Parish who ultimately bought the work by proxy through their donations and taxes? Without digressing and getting into the Reformation, why is so much of the civic and religious work in the public eye? And Rome doesn't exactly have the franchise on the public art thing.

Similar arrangements of public art being created and installed under the patronage of representatives can be found in the earliest civilizations, though the specifics of the relationships are long lost to time. There is no truth that all art exists inside a trade vacuum where the exchange is a simple one-to-one between a single creator and a single purchaser. Though that is the norm and preferable for most works, it is not applicable to all works. I wouldn't call Michelangelo's David a perversion just because it was commissioned by the Overseers of the Office of Works of the Duomo. Who would?

Posted by: Acid Brain on May 21, 2007 05:49 PM
29. AB, I'm not certain I follow your line of thought in your second and third paragraphs. Michaelangelo was a sculptor of limited commercial success in his home city/state, but travelled to Rome to fresco the a chapel ceiling for the Pope (mostly despite his protestations and whilst an equally famous frescoist, Raphael, I believe, was producing amazing art in the Pope's private apartments). The Medieval/Rennaissance church was a very powerful institution that influenced or even directed the actions of European monarchs, yet it was still a private organization, and the money Michaeleangelo was paid originated from the voluntary donations of mostly wealthy, or royal, patrons (mostly in the form of land and rents).

I will agree with you that when a monarch commissioned a work of art, it was somewhat like the government providing a subsidy for art. However, these commissions almost never resulted in the public display of the art (it went on the walls of royal palaces), it was not paid for by direct taxation - the fuedal system was more complicated than that, and the purpose wasn't to deliver art to the masses because they were somehow entitled to it.

Finally, the patronage you refer to was the result of wealthy private families (ex. - Medici) patronizing artists whose work they admired. Sometimes it was done to secure their place in the aristocracy - one-upsmanship - if you will, but it was also done for the more pure motive of being able to enjoy the work of an artist who otherwise would either produce art for someone else or nobody at all. Art (like M's David) are never a perversion in themselves, but the process by which they are financed may be. If purchased by a private individual or organization and then put on public dispay as a donation: wonderful. If purchased with extorted money from individuals who did not wish to pay, for the supposed benefit of the public (but more likely to satisfy the self-centered, twisted consciousness of liberal bureaucrats): horrible.

Posted by: srogers on May 22, 2007 10:14 AM
30. SR - At the time there was little differentiation between the church and the government. I think you get the point and we mainly agree, but you still choose to somehow equate public art with state controls of industries as expressed in certain despotic regimes during the twentieth century, I don't choose to make that leap. Public Art is culturally and historically pervasive and not the sole province of liberals, bolshevists, anarchists, communists, fascists, leftists, or any other politically convenient enemies. I'm sure there are always bureaucrats in the process - no argument there!

The statue of David was commissioned by the public works commissioners of the Duomo as a city sculpture and was positioned outside the Florentine government buildings. It doesn't have a parallel with how we do things now, but if that's not public art in action then what is it?

Posted by: Acid Brain on May 22, 2007 01:56 PM
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