May 02, 2007
Seattle's infrastructure continues to deteriorate

In the last few months we've witnessed several serious failures of Seattle Public Utilities --

* Antiquated storm drainage system fails during winter storm, kills woman in Madison Park.

* Seattle Public Utilities admits fault in last week's water main break in South Lake Union.

* And then there's today's water main break which created a sinkhole and shut down the University Bridge.

I blame the Bush administration and corporate greed.

Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at May 02, 2007 05:58 PM | Email This
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1. The Bush Administration? Why, of course! And the Iraq War!

Might as well preempt Facts and Dave Mathews...You heard it here first!

The Piper

Posted by: Piper Scott on May 2, 2007 06:04 PM
2. You forgot the evil oil companies, greedy corporate executives, capitalist robber baron pigs, tobacco companies and Walmart!

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on May 2, 2007 06:24 PM
3. I'd blame Prescott Bush...he was actually alive when the stuff went in.

Posted by: Cato on May 2, 2007 06:25 PM
4. It's about time you made a left turn and see the truth. All the worlds trouble is due to Bush.

Posted by: Kevin on May 2, 2007 06:25 PM
5. Looks like another excuse for Mayor Nickelbag and the Clowncil to raise taxes to form a committee to study the problem before they officially blame it on the Bush administration.

Posted by: Burdabee on May 2, 2007 06:27 PM
6. One word "Halliburton". Nuff said. Those that have ears, let them hear.

Posted by: thatcher on May 2, 2007 06:28 PM
7. Piper,

If you are preempting Dave Mathews on anything, remember to write in DM script by using bold font and indents on random phrases and sentences.

I guess the appropriate soundtrack for this post is Zep's "When the Levy Breaks".

Posted by: Don Ward on May 2, 2007 06:34 PM
8. Actually it's a plot by Nickels and Sims to justify a large yacht to get around town.

Posted by: Obi-Wan on May 2, 2007 06:52 PM
9. Nickels and Sims are large yachts...

The Piper

Posted by: Piper Scott on May 2, 2007 06:58 PM
10. Indeed! Why fix the problems when it's much easier to fix the blame?

Posted by: starboardhelm on May 2, 2007 07:06 PM
11. I bet these things never would have happened with Rossi in the Governors Mansion. =P

Posted by: Cato on May 2, 2007 07:25 PM
12. Cato

Yes they would have, cause the Gov doesn't have anything to do with SEATTLE PUBLIC UTILITIES.

But the current gov cant seem to make any decisions, always taking a public non-binding vote before she makes a decision, unless of course she is supporting a union, then she knows "how" to make such decisions.

Posted by: Chris on May 2, 2007 07:36 PM
13. i blame chicken politicians for not mandating performance audits.
i blame idiot voters for being apathetic & not watching the store & the powers they delegate.
i blame entrenched bureaucracies like this and like the DOT ferries who allow 20+ years of failed audits and bloated salaries of middle managers without any consequences.
mostly, i blame #2--apathetic voters--who just pay more taxes and ignore the world/results around them. sip another venti latte, you Dufus!

Posted by: jimmie-howya-doin on May 2, 2007 08:36 PM
14. I celebrate that the liberal moonbats in Seattle and King County are getting EXACTLY what they deserve: the government and services (or lack thereof) they championed.

It wasn't that long ogo that I regularly did battle with the apt named donks over at HA and I vividly remember them telling the rest of the state to go suck an egg, that THEY in Seattle ran things around here... how right they were: they ran them right smack into the ground. If Seattle doesn't wise up soon, we'll have to drag those old billboards out...

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on May 2, 2007 08:49 PM
15. Wow, the liberal Seattle Govt. is responsible for water pipes that were installed 85+ years ago. You guys are really reaching now. Besides it was the Republicans who ran Seattle back then.

Posted by: Cato on May 2, 2007 09:03 PM
16.

Ah, Nice Try!

it doesn't matter on whit who installed them... they were WORKING back then... the kumbaya crowd you run with is in charge of them NOW (and for quite a good {figuratively} while now) and they've been sitting on their collective hands diddling.

Posted by: Ragnar Danneskjold on May 2, 2007 09:43 PM
17. Something that has been supressed concerning the Madison Park woman who drowned in her own basement is that The storm drain that failed was stopped up by these stupid "socks" that the environmentalists have been demanding that the city install. The purpose is to keep trash from getting swept into the drainige streams. However, they tend to stop up during high flow events and the result was that a woman died. We've done just fine with out these "socks" for a long time, maybe it's just a knee jerk idea that ought to go away as a dangerous practice.

Posted by: Chuck Berlemann on May 2, 2007 09:44 PM
18. Privatize, privatize, privatize. And privatize.

Posted by: BananaLand on May 2, 2007 09:58 PM
19. it doesn't matter on whit who installed them... they were WORKING back then...

I see, it doesn't mater if good ol' Ole could have been on the take back then. Maybe the GOP should have fixed it back in '64.

Nope, all that matters is that the Liberals are in charge of fixin 85 year old rusting pipes. Gotcha, nothing is ever the GOP's fault. =)

Posted by: Cato on May 2, 2007 10:12 PM
20. Did you catch the billboard sign near the sinkhole at the University Bridge?
It says:
"Sinkhole de Mayo"
At least some LEFTIST PINHEADED KLOWN has a sense of humor.

Posted by: Mr. Cynical on May 2, 2007 10:26 PM
21. Ahhh CATO.. Your answer is on Mc DERmott.

Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on May 2, 2007 10:32 PM
22. 19. Excuse me CATO.

But since the DEM's/libs have been running Seattle do you even know that their own fire dept has been under funded? Not including the police.

Cato, the dem's spend for the homeless & bumbs, damn everything else.

Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on May 2, 2007 10:37 PM
23. I see, so instead of blaming Bush you blame the Liberals. Your methodology is just as whack as Facts / Dave Mathews.

The Dem's also spend money on Cato, the dem's spend for the homeless & bums, damn everything else.

I don't see the church's stepping up to help the homeless under Bush's Faith Based Initiative program. The city has an obligation to fix roads, why does it not have an obligation to take care of it's residents regardless of economic status.

Posted by: Cato on May 2, 2007 10:54 PM
24. I don't see the church's stepping up to help the homeless...

Thanks Cato. You finally proved your age to me.
If you don't know. The Church's did take care of the poor long before the government pushed them aside.
But not to worry Cato. They still do it now with much greater results, other then the gov giving bums a place to sleep and stay drunk. (yeah were talking about Seattle)

Posted by: Army Medic/Vet on May 3, 2007 07:04 AM
25. cato, you are missing the point.

Your people took over and instead of spending/budgetting money for the replacement of old infrastructure, they took what should have been reserves and spent it on exotics.

Everyone who has done proper municipal budgetting knows you are supposed to have a reserve to repair/replace pipes, roads, bridges, etc.. Government is not supposed to be there for social services. We have fallen into a big trap and getting more and more stuck as we use government to fund social issues.

BTW, I am for limited government, but I am very compassionate for those getting these social services. I just don't think government should be the menu for the venue.

Posted by: swatter on May 3, 2007 07:07 AM
26. To #15 -

You miss the point in what you say there Cato.

It is not uncommon for the builders of something to build it, then have democrats appropriate it later and run it into the ground. (Then blame the problem on the original builder instead of on themselves because they didn't invest in necessary maintenance and upkeep.)

If they still taught history in schools, you'd recognize the pattern, but teachers unions have pretty much stamped out teaching history in favor of social engineering and fuzzy math.

Posted by: johnny on May 3, 2007 07:18 AM
27. while i wont blame a particular mayor for a leak in infrastructure that ages normally, i will take this as an opportunity to remind our officials & city workers to emphasize proactivity & checking our systems. preventive maintenance as much as possible.

dont wait for reactive repairs. yes, things break, but stay on the ball & monitor things if possible to minimize disasters. applies to any party. just take care of "our" (taxpayers') stuff.

Posted by: jimmie-howya-doin on May 3, 2007 10:24 AM
28. "city workers to emphasize proactivity & checking our systems. preventive maintenance as much as possible."

Can't do that; they're too busy attending repetative diversity training.

Posted by: Clyde on May 3, 2007 11:12 AM
29. To be fair, all infrastructure builds out organically and going back to see what shape it is in seems almost impossible. There is alot of water and sewer under Seattle streets.

It seems to me this last water pipe break would be impossible to find by some maintenance procedure. I don't think that shutting off the water every few yaers and then draining the pipes to thousands of citizens and hundreds of businesses, for days on end, to check pipe integrity would be very popular. Letting them break and then repair is the only logical way really. Probably cheaper over the long term too.

About the only thing the city can do to be proactive is to start replacing everything from the first laid and move outward. Of course, the streets city-wide would be torn-up perpetually. Is anybody ready for that?

Posted by: G Jggy on May 3, 2007 11:40 AM
30. This problem has been known for many years -- in the late 70s at a housing meeting, the key speaker (a retired city-type engineer) explained the water pipe and sewer problems in Seattle -- my memory has 1/2 Billion to fix it at the time...back then there had been several major breaks on Queen Anne hill -- the Capitol Hill water tower and piping was also mentioned as being obsolete -- the only solution then was a massive stop everything and fix the problem -- but there was not enough money to do so. Government today is so expensive and unresponsive that there probably isn't any solution to the except to hope that a main doesn't break in your neighborhood. (About 10 years ago my homes insurance company dropped coverage for water failure or flooding caused by city (stupidity) -- and that includes a fire that cannot be extinguished due to lack of water pressure...the policy rider had a clever way of explaining it, but the agent was up-front about what it really meant... (Don't all "world-class cities" have problems with their sewers and water service...

Posted by: Lew on May 3, 2007 11:58 AM
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